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PJfanwillneverleave1
PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
edited April 2015 in A Moving Train
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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    edited April 2015
    You hitting the bottle again tonight, fella?

    I've come to dig you over time from various posts, but this post is...well, it's just not.

    Pretty insulting considering the many benefits whether some choose to recognize them.

    Fuck walking a mile - start with a step.

    Anyway, here ya go, from one who "does drugs".

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pceBcOGL7nI




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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,823
    hedonist said:

    You hitting the bottle again tonight, fella?

    I've come to dig you over time from various posts, but this post is...well, it's just not.

    Pretty insulting considering the many benefits whether some choose to recognize them.

    Fuck walking a mile - start with a step.

    Anyway, here ya go, from one who "does drugs".

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pceBcOGL7nI




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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    I hear ya, Hugh - and a double-edit at that!

    But it's OK - hopefully was borne of re-thinking vs backing out.
  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    What was said?
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Will pm, but on the public front, I'd rather leave the choice of clarifying to the OP.
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    hedonist said:

    Will pm, but on the public front, I'd rather leave the choice of clarifying to the OP.

    In a nutshell I said (illegal)Drugs are for losers.
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    hedonist said:

    Will pm, but on the public front, I'd rather leave the choice of clarifying to the OP.

    In a nutshell I said (illegal)Drugs are for losers.
    I would say there are losers that do drugs- that isn't a stretch because we see derelicts everywhere that, for whatever reason, began to enjoy bath salts as their drug of choice.

    Drugs should be legalized. I'm not sure where the line should be drawn, but it makes absolutely no sense to classify marijuana as illegal. It's not as bad as alcohol, it's basically legal given its availability and consumption levels, and... there is a booming and lucrative industry that awaits acceptance.

    Not to mention legalization puts a serious thorn in the side of the criminal element that currently enjoys the prosperity generated from the production and distribution of it.
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  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    hedonist said:

    Will pm, but on the public front, I'd rather leave the choice of clarifying to the OP.

    In a nutshell I said (illegal)Drugs are for losers.
    I would say there are losers that do drugs- that isn't a stretch because we see derelicts everywhere that, for whatever reason, began to enjoy bath salts as their drug of choice.

    Drugs should be legalized. I'm not sure where the line should be drawn, but it makes absolutely no sense to classify marijuana as illegal. It's not as bad as alcohol, it's basically legal given its availability and consumption levels, and... there is a booming and lucrative industry that awaits acceptance.

    Not to mention legalization puts a serious thorn in the side of the criminal element that currently enjoys the prosperity generated from the production and distribution of it.
    Damn it. A topic like this needs so much clarification. I should've said illegal HARD drugs. Not marijuana.

  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    I know lots of very successful people who do hard drugs on occasion. I also know lots of people who don't do any drugs who I would consider losers.

    That being said, there is something to say about all the bad shit that may have happened along the line for those successful people to eventually get those drugs. The drug trade is no joke. The same goes for marijuana. Something for drug users to ponder.
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    dignin said:

    I know lots of very successful people who do hard drugs on occasion. I also know lots of people who don't do any drugs who I would consider losers.

    That being said, there is something to say about all the bad shit that may have happened along the line for those successful people to eventually get those drugs. The drug trade is no joke. The same goes for marijuana. Something for drug users to ponder.

    There are many who just grow - no trade, no violence, just growing (and selling). And it makes its way down to me and those like me.

    And, many others.

    (upstanding!)

  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    dignin said:

    I know lots of very successful people who do hard drugs on occasion. I also know lots of people who don't do any drugs who I would consider losers.

    That being said, there is something to say about all the bad shit that may have happened along the line for those successful people to eventually get those drugs. The drug trade is no joke. The same goes for marijuana. Something for drug users to ponder.

    I'm not sure about the 'gateway' argument. Countless people happily smoke their pot without becoming boredf and looking for something different.

    I think it ultimately comes down to the individual and their circumstances that led to their choices when we see dependency on 'hard' drugs. Without marijuana, these 'junkies' might just as easily have found their affliction- not to even say they all started smoking pot and wandered from there.
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,675
    edited April 2015
    Fail
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,775
    I'm pretty sure that legal alcohol creates a lot more "losers" than illegal drugs do. Alcoholism is easily the number one drug problem in America. Do you drink alcohol OP? Is it just the illegality of these hard drugs that bothers you most?
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,455
    damn, i missed the possible PUI!!

    this is what i get for being absent :(
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  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,397
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    dignin said:

    I know lots of very successful people who do hard drugs on occasion. I also know lots of people who don't do any drugs who I would consider losers.

    That being said, there is something to say about all the bad shit that may have happened along the line for those successful people to eventually get those drugs. The drug trade is no joke. The same goes for marijuana. Something for drug users to ponder.

    I'm not sure about the 'gateway' argument. Countless people happily smoke their pot without becoming boredf and looking for something different.

    I think it ultimately comes down to the individual and their circumstances that led to their choices when we see dependency on 'hard' drugs. Without marijuana, these 'junkies' might just as easily have found their affliction- not to even say they all started smoking pot and wandered from there.
    Thirty Bills Unpaid,

    I don't think that's what dignin was implying: seemed to me it was about the corruption in the drug creation/supply chain worlds.

    The 'gateway' argument seems to have more to do with human psychology, and it's hardly different with alcohol or sexual activity.. First you want to kiss a girl, then once you've done enough of that, you want to have sex. Fast forward a few years and you're living with your mom on house arrest because you played 'non-consensual sex' once or twice. Just ask Jian Ghomeshi. Many of us seek more and more intense thrills as we become numb to more accessible pleasures.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,455
    alcohol is the biggest gateway drug, and it is legal.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,775
    gimmesometruth27 said:

    alcohol is the biggest gateway drug, and it is legal.

    That's why I asked if the OP really just has an issue with these drugs being illegal, rather than the actual impact of the drugs... looking forward to an answer!
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,675
    edited April 2015
    Fail
    Post edited by brianlux on
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,455
    plus if you mix alcohol with other prescription meds, it is a recipe for disaster.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,775
    gimmesometruth27 said:

    plus if you mix alcohol with other prescription meds, it is a recipe for disaster.

    Even if you don't mix the two, aren't overdoses of legal prescription drugs MUCH more common than overdoses of illegal ones?
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
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