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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,869
    i believe so. i know people take a handful of xanax to off themselves. people take a bottle of tylenol for the same reason, and that one is over the counter.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    benjs said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    dignin said:

    I know lots of very successful people who do hard drugs on occasion. I also know lots of people who don't do any drugs who I would consider losers.

    That being said, there is something to say about all the bad shit that may have happened along the line for those successful people to eventually get those drugs. The drug trade is no joke. The same goes for marijuana. Something for drug users to ponder.

    I'm not sure about the 'gateway' argument. Countless people happily smoke their pot without becoming boredf and looking for something different.

    I think it ultimately comes down to the individual and their circumstances that led to their choices when we see dependency on 'hard' drugs. Without marijuana, these 'junkies' might just as easily have found their affliction- not to even say they all started smoking pot and wandered from there.
    Thirty Bills Unpaid,

    I don't think that's what dignin was implying: seemed to me it was about the corruption in the drug creation/supply chain worlds.

    The 'gateway' argument seems to have more to do with human psychology, and it's hardly different with alcohol or sexual activity.. First you want to kiss a girl, then once you've done enough of that, you want to have sex. Fast forward a few years and you're living with your mom on house arrest because you played 'non-consensual sex' once or twice. Just ask Jian Ghomeshi. Many of us seek more and more intense thrills as we become numb to more accessible pleasures.
    With a possible misinterpretation of Dignin's comment aside... I'm pretty sure we are saying the same thing.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • whispering hands
    whispering hands Under your skin Posts: 13,527
    gimmesometruth27 said:

    damn, i missed the possible PUI!!

    this is what i get for being absent :(

    Me too.. Day late, post short.. Always..
  • whispering hands
    whispering hands Under your skin Posts: 13,527
    I have so
    Much to say.. So little tact with which to say it. So I'm going to say, unless you have ever stared at yourself in a mirror in complete and utter disgust with yourself over where you have ended up in life, you will never get what is happening in the lives of those hooked on hard drugs. And if you can't understand with compassion and earnest knowledge of where they are coming from, then you judging them
    Makes you an inconsiderate and heartless jerk. Period. MY opinion. And I'm done.
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    PJ_Soul said:

    gimmesometruth27 said:

    alcohol is the biggest gateway drug, and it is legal.

    That's why I asked if the OP really just has an issue with these drugs being illegal, rather than the actual impact of the drugs... looking forward to an answer!
    Wow, The power of the .
    Soon we will have as many posts here as the Eddie hot pics.

    Not sure where this thread is going...

    No I don't have an issue with drugs being illegal. The impact of said illegal drugs is evident.
    Hash, coc, heroin, meth etc

    I just think that people who actively engage in above activities as "something to do" after work or whenever (wake 'n bakes, smoking a bong)

    Recreational use of these drugs is for losers.
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    whispering hands said:

    I have so
    Much to say.. So little tact with which to say it. So I'm going to say, unless you have ever stared at yourself in a mirror in complete and utter disgust with yourself over where you have ended up in life, you will never get what is happening in the lives of those hooked on hard drugs. And if you can't understand with compassion and earnest knowledge of where they are coming from, then you judging them
    Makes you an inconsiderate and heartless jerk. Period. MY opinion. And I'm done.

    Yes. Judging people from their addictions is inconsiderate and heartless jerk traits.
    I am not talking about addicts. I am talking about people that use them recreationally.
    Sorry, if you need to snort a line of coc on a Friday night for something to do, you better look at yourself or your friends and ask if you are an addict or recreation user.

    So, again I am not starting a thread on people and their addictions. I am saying that people who snort coc , inject heroin on a Friday night for something to do are losers.
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    whispering hands said:

    I have so
    Much to say.. So little tact with which to say it. So I'm going to say, unless you have ever stared at yourself in a mirror in complete and utter disgust with yourself over where you have ended up in life, you will never get what is happening in the lives of those hooked on hard drugs. And if you can't understand with compassion and earnest knowledge of where they are coming from, then you judging them
    Makes you an inconsiderate and heartless jerk. Period. MY opinion. And I'm done.

    I love the venom that can so easily be spewn at people on this board who so many know so little about... but just as easily spared for, in this particular situation, junkies that presumably have had it much tougher.

    I would wager that most people on this forum intimately understands the effects of alcohol and drug abuse- either through direct experience or that of a loved one.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • whispering hands
    whispering hands Under your skin Posts: 13,527
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    whispering hands said:

    I have so
    Much to say.. So little tact with which to say it. So I'm going to say, unless you have ever stared at yourself in a mirror in complete and utter disgust with yourself over where you have ended up in life, you will never get what is happening in the lives of those hooked on hard drugs. And if you can't understand with compassion and earnest knowledge of where they are coming from, then you judging them
    Makes you an inconsiderate and heartless jerk. Period. MY opinion. And I'm done.

    I love the venom that can so easily be spewn at people on this board who so many know so little about... but just as easily spared for, in this particular situation, junkies that presumably have had it much tougher.

    I would wager that most people on this forum intimately understands the effects of alcohol and drug abuse- either through direct experience or that of a loved one.
    And yet still so quick to judge.. That's what angers me most.
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    whispering hands said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    whispering hands said:

    I have so
    Much to say.. So little tact with which to say it. So I'm going to say, unless you have ever stared at yourself in a mirror in complete and utter disgust with yourself over where you have ended up in life, you will never get what is happening in the lives of those hooked on hard drugs. And if you can't understand with compassion and earnest knowledge of where they are coming from, then you judging them
    Makes you an inconsiderate and heartless jerk. Period. MY opinion. And I'm done.

    I love the venom that can so easily be spewn at people on this board who so many know so little about... but just as easily spared for, in this particular situation, junkies that presumably have had it much tougher.

    I would wager that most people on this forum intimately understands the effects of alcohol and drug abuse- either through direct experience or that of a loved one.
    And yet still so quick to judge.. That's what angers me most.
    I don't know why this angers you so. This is not a thread about you.
    I see kids in local hangouts, playgrounds etc smoking weed for something to do. Some as young as 11. When we walk by them I say to my own kids don't ever associate with those losers.
    The same can apply for an adult. When I see a "professional" after work snorting coc I deem him a loser.

    It's not judging - an 11yr old smoking weed on a playground is a loser much the same as a suit and tie sitting in his office doing a line.

  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,778
    edited April 2015
    Fail
    Post edited by brianlux on
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • whispering hands
    whispering hands Under your skin Posts: 13,527
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    whispering hands said:

    I have so
    Much to say.. So little tact with which to say it. So I'm going to say, unless you have ever stared at yourself in a mirror in complete and utter disgust with yourself over where you have ended up in life, you will never get what is happening in the lives of those hooked on hard drugs. And if you can't understand with compassion and earnest knowledge of where they are coming from, then you judging them
    Makes you an inconsiderate and heartless jerk. Period. MY opinion. And I'm done.

    Yes. Judging people from their addictions is inconsiderate and heartless jerk traits.
    I am not talking about addicts. I am talking about people that use them recreationally.
    Sorry, if you need to snort a line of coc on a Friday night for something to do, you better look at yourself or your friends and ask if you are an addict or recreation user.

    So, again I am not starting a thread on people and their addictions. I am saying that people who snort coc , inject heroin on a Friday night for something to do are losers.
    Thank you for that clarification. I 'get' that thought, and idea, but I do not get how that judgement comes. Because it is not being a loser, it's ignorance. And that is the factor under which most people who become addicts get crushed. I started drinking because I couldn't stand people. But I got bored just sitting online in chat rooms. But I couldn't bear to go out.. When I realized alcohol was a great way to 'loosen up', I tried it. That led to more drinking, which in the end Lead to all sorts of really bad decisions. But that didn't make me a loser.. It made me disillusioned. I was ignorant. Eventually I knew there was a problem, but didn't seek
    Help for around ten years after.. That made me addicted.. Trying to say I was 'ok'a d didn't need help, was just me listening to
    My own crock
    If shit. And believing it. So when someone says hey, you doing this this and this for 'fun' makes you a loser.. Then we're ALL losers.. Cause that's usually how it starts. Anyhow.. I should have said nothing at all..
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Lots of doctor, lawyer, scientist, architect, poet, artist, and so on losers out there too.
    But PJfan is better than them all! PJfan is a winner cuz PJfan says no to recreational drug use!

    PJfan never answered if PJfan drinks alcohol... Do you?
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Ed, Stone, Jeff, Mike, Matt and Boom are losers!
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,778
    edited April 2015
    Fail
    Post edited by brianlux on
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited April 2015
    Like I said...not sure at all where this thread is going anymore.

    I would like to call the drug dealer a loser as well for being the enablers of getting kids to smoke dope and possibly harder drugs at an early age.

    Maybe I hang around the wrong crowd I don't know. I know of people who do drugs and I know that nothing good comes from it. I am not above anything at all.
    Hanging around people who snort coc, heroin whatever is not my thing nor will it ever be. Teaching children to avoid drugs at any cost is in no way whatsoever wrong.
    I am the kind of person who calls the recreational coc snorter a loser.

    Yes, I drink.

    Edit -
    Since these seems to be an act/re-act thread,
    What would a persons reaction be if on Obamas off time he openly says that I do coc of Fridays and heroin on Saturday.

    Obama is just a quick example I came up with and is in no way meant to imply anything.
    Post edited by PJfanwillneverleave1 on
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Alcohol is a drug.
    Recreational use of that drug causes more deaths in America than any other drug.
    Can you not see how your comments are entirely hypocritical?
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    rgambs said:

    Alcohol is a drug.
    Recreational use of that drug causes more deaths in America than any other drug.
    Can you not see how your comments are entirely hypocritical?

    No
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Then perhaps you drink too much?
    Or your brain doesn't function properly?

    Maybe you need some drugs lol
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    rgambs said:

    Ed, Stone, Jeff, Mike, Matt and Boom are losers!

    That's blasphemy! :time_out:
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    rgambs said:

    Ed, Stone, Jeff, Mike, Matt and Boom are losers!

    That's blasphemy! :time_out:
    You said it, not me!
    They are recreational drug users and therefore losers to you.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
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