Iran Deal, the reset..... and halt

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  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    For those who don't think I read alternate takes:

    http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2015/04/iran-nuclear-deal-democracy-akbar-ganji/390900/

    This aligns pretty close with Aafke I think and is pretty interesting.
  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    BS44325 said:

    For those who don't think I read alternate takes:

    http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2015/04/iran-nuclear-deal-democracy-akbar-ganji/390900/

    This aligns pretty close with Aafke I think and is pretty interesting.

    I like this article that's from the same site:

    http://m.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2015/03/john-bolton-times-iran-bomb-war/388850/
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    BS44325 said:

    callen said:

    BS44325 said:

    all good, I take it as a compliment that you've got nothing to say to me. Besides, checking the local media the last few days, Connor McDavid is going to save the world next year. :wink:
    I'll keep thinking big picture, you keep heading down the same old path. We both think the other is howling at the moon. We won't convince each other of shit....but...in my experience, the disenfranchised, apathetic, and ignorant are more easily swayed to peace and diplomacy than to war. I counter your bullshit for that reason, and because it's therapeutic to me. Without you here, my masturbatory idealist rants wouldn't be possible. Thanks BS, you're a champ.

    Love ya brother...serious...no sarcasm. I can handle all the criticism. The only thing I ever ask people to consider is that a normal, flesh and blood person, with absolutely no ulterior motive can hold my views.
    I've never thought you have ulterior motive but those that successfully feed your brain do.
    This is exactly what I am talking about. A rational person can't believe what I believe unless my brain is being fed. I couldn't possibly have come to these conclusions on my own.
    No you wouldn't.

    War killing others =good? No!

    War killing others=$$$$. Yes. Bingo.

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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    BS44325 said:

    For those who don't think I read alternate takes:

    http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2015/04/iran-nuclear-deal-democracy-akbar-ganji/390900/

    This aligns pretty close with Aafke I think and is pretty interesting.

    Do give you huge credit for hanging out here. Much respect.

    You'll come around as well.
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  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    callen said:

    BS44325 said:

    For those who don't think I read alternate takes:

    http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2015/04/iran-nuclear-deal-democracy-akbar-ganji/390900/

    This aligns pretty close with Aafke I think and is pretty interesting.

    Do give you huge credit for hanging out here. Much respect.

    You'll come around as well.
    Much respect as well.
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    BS44325 said:

    callen said:

    but in reality, it all boils down to support of murder for monetary gain.

    This is exactly why I don't respond to all of you. When this is your "reality" there is no sense in responding.

    I don't see how an intelligent person can fail to see that war is fought for monetary gain. It literally is War 103.
    War 101: Kill the other side.
    War 102: Don't get killed.
    War 103: You're fighting for rich people to get richer.
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  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    rgambs said:

    BS44325 said:

    callen said:

    but in reality, it all boils down to support of murder for monetary gain.

    This is exactly why I don't respond to all of you. When this is your "reality" there is no sense in responding.

    I don't see how an intelligent person can fail to see that war is fought for monetary gain. It literally is War 103.
    War 101: Kill the other side.
    War 102: Don't get killed.
    War 103: You're fighting for rich people to get richer.
    Dude, I sent u a couple pm and no response. Congrats on the little one gambs.
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    badbrains said:

    rgambs said:

    BS44325 said:

    callen said:

    but in reality, it all boils down to support of murder for monetary gain.

    This is exactly why I don't respond to all of you. When this is your "reality" there is no sense in responding.

    I don't see how an intelligent person can fail to see that war is fought for monetary gain. It literally is War 103.
    War 101: Kill the other side.
    War 102: Don't get killed.
    War 103: You're fighting for rich people to get richer.
    Dude, I sent u a couple pm and no response. Congrats on the little one gambs.
    My bad brother, I saw that and forgot to respond. Thanks for the good vibes!
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/michele-bachmann-obama-end-times-iran

    This is what conservatives are saying! It's batshit crazy.
    I have 2 questions:
    Do they really believe it is Obama's goal to give Iran nukes?
    Does it bother folks like BS that such nutjobs are on their side and using some of the very same arguments?
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  • Aafke
    Aafke Posts: 1,219
    edited April 2015
    rgambs said:

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/michele-bachmann-obama-end-times-iran

    This is what conservatives are saying! It's batshit crazy.
    I have 2 questions:
    Do they really believe it is Obama's goal to give Iran nukes?
    Does it bother folks like BS that such nutjobs are on their side and using some of the very same arguments?

    Why is this woman in politics instead of in an mental institution? She is having a serious mental breakdown, isn't she? But glad she's happy...
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Aafke said:

    rgambs said:

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/michele-bachmann-obama-end-times-iran

    This is what conservatives are saying! It's batshit crazy.
    I have 2 questions:
    Do they really believe it is Obama's goal to give Iran nukes?
    Does it bother folks like BS that such nutjobs are on their side and using some of the very same arguments?

    Why is this woman in politics instead of in an mental institution? She is having a serious mental breakdown, isn't she? But glad she's happy...
    Her life is a serious mental breakdown lol
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  • Aafke
    Aafke Posts: 1,219
    edited April 2015
    rgambs said:

    Aafke said:

    rgambs said:

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/michele-bachmann-obama-end-times-iran

    This is what conservatives are saying! It's batshit crazy.
    I have 2 questions:
    Do they really believe it is Obama's goal to give Iran nukes?
    Does it bother folks like BS that such nutjobs are on their side and using some of the very same arguments?

    Why is this woman in politics instead of in an mental institution? She is having a serious mental breakdown, isn't she? But glad she's happy...
    Her life is a serious mental breakdown lol
    Freedom of speech is very profound right, but reading an article like this, does give something to think about this right, shouldn't some be protected from making a complete joke of themselves... On the other hand some might be thinking the same about me...
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    She's just feeding many what they want to hear to justify their insecurities of ObMa being an intelligent black man and adding some good ole religious dribble as icing on the cake. Yes I said it.

    Just tells you why people shouldn't be walking around with guns let alone drive.
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    Aafke said:

    rgambs said:

    Aafke said:

    rgambs said:

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/michele-bachmann-obama-end-times-iran

    This is what conservatives are saying! It's batshit crazy.
    I have 2 questions:
    Do they really believe it is Obama's goal to give Iran nukes?
    Does it bother folks like BS that such nutjobs are on their side and using some of the very same arguments?

    Why is this woman in politics instead of in an mental institution? She is having a serious mental breakdown, isn't she? But glad she's happy...
    Her life is a serious mental breakdown lol
    Freedom of speech is very profound right, but reading an article like this, does give something to think about this right, shouldn't some be protected from making a complete joke of themselves... On the other hand some might be thinking the same about me...
    They should be called out but people are scared to touch the wacky religion bottom.

    Sad
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 41,995


    Why is this woman in politics instead of in an mental institution? She is having a serious mental breakdown, isn't she? But glad she's happy...

    Her life is a serious mental breakdown lol

    Freedom of speech is very profound right, but reading an article like this, does give something to think about this right, shouldn't some be protected from making a complete joke of themselves... On the other hand some might be thinking the same about me...

    They should be called out but people are scared to touch the wacky religion bottom.

    Sad

    And they control the republican primaries in a good number of states. Watch how the republican candidates will kowtow to them in Iowa and the south. Remember when Sarah Palin took to prominently wearing the Star of David around her neck? These End of Days folks like Michele Bachman are more numerous than you know. And they are scary in how they think of the world and the US' place in it.
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  • callen
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    Bachman is just pandering. She's smart. Works.
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  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    rgambs said:

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/michele-bachmann-obama-end-times-iran

    This is what conservatives are saying! It's batshit crazy.
    I have 2 questions:
    Do they really believe it is Obama's goal to give Iran nukes?
    Does it bother folks like BS that such nutjobs are on their side and using some of the very same arguments?

    It bothers me plenty.
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    callen said:

    Bachman is just pandering. She's smart. Works.

    For what? The VP nod?
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    BS44325 said:

    rgambs said:

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/michele-bachmann-obama-end-times-iran

    This is what conservatives are saying! It's batshit crazy.
    I have 2 questions:
    Do they really believe it is Obama's goal to give Iran nukes?
    Does it bother folks like BS that such nutjobs are on their side and using some of the very same arguments?

    It bothers me plenty.
    Good! Patchouli stinkin' butterfly protectors bother me.
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388

    callen said:

    Bachman is just pandering. She's smart. Works.

    For what? The VP nod?
    Hey she's now On the cover of the roll........wait no.

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