Going Clear: Scientology and the Prison of Belief

HughFreakingDillon

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

rr165892 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

hedonist said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Last-12-Exit said:

I just watched this show. I simply don't understand how intelligent human being would fall for this. I still have no idea what these people actually believe in. What church send you to "jail" for saying anything negative. This is truly unbelievable.

Are any of you MT people scientologist? I have a thousand questions. Most of them are why?

I was oddly disappointed when I found out Juliette Lewis was a Scientologist. She is incredible live!

Same here. Also several folks from That 70s Show.

I still think Tom Cruise is excellent at his craft!

he is a great actor. and Juliette still rocks my socks off. so really the point is moo.

you know, like a cow's opinion.

That's right Paul ,you got a thing for ms Lewis don't ya? I believe we said you preferred the slutty version right?lol
I thought she was smarter also.
Cruise is a master at his craft.But probably is blinded by status and power as a real person and lives with a sense of entitlement.I hope I'm wrong but I don't think so.

I have a thing for women in rock in general. I wouldn't call it the "slutty" versoin. The sexed-up sweaty version.

My brother's a borderline genius, and he's a born again christian who believes gays are the work of the devil. so I don't think it's totally accurate to say that intelligence really factors into it.

This is the puzzling aspect of religion for me: in many cases, you have very intelligent people caught up in beliefs that simply defy logic and science.

Introduced at an early age, one can understand why a person would embrace and hold tight what was taught to them while they were influential. Your brother- according to you- is near genius and is 'born again'. These type of cases baffle me.

yeah, it's hard for me to reconcile as well. I guess saying near genius is a bit much. a very very intelligent guy let's say. but the point is the same. total science geek too. not sure how he reconciles that either.

hedonist

I had a friend/coworker who - literally from one week to the next - became born-again. Through a church service I'll never understand, she was "out" and then awoke speaking in tongues. All of our subsequent conversations were about what god said to her, what god told her to write, how god damned me for living with my now-husband.

Just seemed so very fucked up and sad too. I couldn't continue that friendship, and I really miss her old self.

As to the Lewis factor - Hugh, I may have said it before, but you should check out Milla Jovovich with Puscifer. Wow!

Thirty Bills Unpaid

hedonist said:

I had a friend/coworker who - literally from one week to the next - became born-again. Through a church service I'll never understand, she was "out" and then awoke speaking in tongues. All of our subsequent conversations were about what god said to her, what god told her to write, how god damned me for living with my now-husband.

Just seemed so very fucked up and sad too. I couldn't continue that friendship, and I really miss her old self.

As to the Lewis factor - Hugh, I may have said it before, but you should check out Milla Jovovich with Puscifer. Wow!

This... is something I will check out.

HughFreakingDillon

hedonist said:

I had a friend/coworker who - literally from one week to the next - became born-again. Through a church service I'll never understand, she was "out" and then awoke speaking in tongues. All of our subsequent conversations were about what god said to her, what god told her to write, how god damned me for living with my now-husband.

Just seemed so very fucked up and sad too. I couldn't continue that friendship, and I really miss her old self.

As to the Lewis factor - Hugh, I may have said it before, but you should check out Milla Jovovich with Puscifer. Wow!

she did something with Puscifer? wow. thanks, will do.

rr165892

HughFreakingDillon said:

rr165892 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

hedonist said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Last-12-Exit said:

I just watched this show. I simply don't understand how intelligent human being would fall for this. I still have no idea what these people actually believe in. What church send you to "jail" for saying anything negative. This is truly unbelievable.

Are any of you MT people scientologist? I have a thousand questions. Most of them are why?

I was oddly disappointed when I found out Juliette Lewis was a Scientologist. She is incredible live!

Same here. Also several folks from That 70s Show.

I still think Tom Cruise is excellent at his craft!

he is a great actor. and Juliette still rocks my socks off. so really the point is moo.

you know, like a cow's opinion.

That's right Paul ,you got a thing for ms Lewis don't ya? I believe we said you preferred the slutty version right?lol
I thought she was smarter also.
Cruise is a master at his craft.But probably is blinded by status and power as a real person and lives with a sense of entitlement.I hope I'm wrong but I don't think so.

I have a thing for women in rock in general. I wouldn't call it the "slutty" versoin. The sexed-up sweaty version.

My brother's a borderline genius, and he's a born again christian who believes gays are the work of the devil. so I don't think it's totally accurate to say that intelligence really factors into it.

I should have said the Kalifornia,Natural Born Killers,Old School,Cape Fear Juliette Lewis and not "the other sister" version.(But that was a really,really good roll for her btw)

HughFreakingDillon

Well, the cape fear JL was about 10 years old! And I have never seen the other sister. But, i get what tou are driving at. She was hikarious in old school. "Yeah, im here for the gang bang". Lol

hedonist

Here you go, fellas. I love her!

There are live versions out there but the sound isn't the best.

And I dug the bejesus out of Juliette in NBK - not to mention Rodney (one of my favorite films and soundtracks).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eZZZ7g0El4

rr165892

HughFreakingDillon said:

Well, the cape fear JL was about 10 years old! And I have never seen the other sister. But, i get what tou are driving at. She was hikarious in old school. "Yeah, im here for the gang bang". Lol

Didn't Deniro get his fingers sucked by JLIn Cape Fear? I haven't seen it a decade.
Other sister is some of best true acting.She plays a mentally handicapped young lady who is in a relationship with a young man who also is handicapped.Very,very good.

rr165892

hedonist said:

Here you go, fellas. I love her!

There are live versions out there but the sound isn't the best.

And I dug the bejesus out of Juliette in NBK - not to mention Rodney (one of my favorite films and soundtracks).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eZZZ7g0El4

That's her singing? Cool jam.trippy for 6am but I'm feeling it.

hedonist

Yup, and she rocks some sexy boots in one of the live versions!

Good on you for digging the song at such an early hour.

HughFreakingDillon

rr165892 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Well, the cape fear JL was about 10 years old! And I have never seen the other sister. But, i get what tou are driving at. She was hikarious in old school. "Yeah, im here for the gang bang". Lol

Didn't Deniro get his fingers sucked by JLIn Cape Fear? I haven't seen it a decade.
Other sister is some of best true acting.She plays a mentally handicapped young lady who is in a relationship with a young man who also is handicapped.Very,very good.

yes, that was one of the all time creepiest movie scenes. I'm surprised DeNiro did it. that could have been a career killer.

rr165892

hedonist said:

Yup, and she rocks some sexy boots in one of the live versions!

Good on you for digging the song at such an early hour.

Hedo,there is never a time not to rock out.
I did really dig the funky jam.Ima gonna download that shit today.