But if you put your work out there, isn't it subject to criticism as well as praise?
(I wouldn't have even known that was EV save for it being posted in this forum)
(and had to laugh at "crazy left wrist" - reminds me of a King of Queens episode)
someone who is the artist might be a member here. can you imagine the humiliation they would feel? it would be different if they posted it here themselves.
besides, respectful criticism is ok. saying "WTF IS THIS" isn't respectful in the least.
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can you do better? I'm not an artist, but I'd never publicly criticize someone's work. that's low.
Maybe. Maybe not. Like you, I'm not an artist. However, like Hedonist said, if you put your work out there it is subject to both praise and criticism. That said, in my opinion, I was pretty far from harsh in my original post. Maybe I could have worded the thread title in a more respectful manner...but I didn't and thus opened myself to your public criticism of my post. Now, I am humiliated.
I will edit the title and initial post so as to present my question in a more respectful light.
can you do better? I'm not an artist, but I'd never publicly criticize someone's work. that's low.
Maybe. Maybe not. Like you, I'm not an artist. However, like Hedonist said, if you put your work out there it is subject to both praise and criticism. That said, in my opinion, I was pretty far from harsh in my original post. Maybe I could have worded the thread title in a more respectful manner...but I didn't and thus opened myself to your public criticism of my post. Now, I am humiliated.
I will edit the title and initial post so as to present my question in a more respectful light.
well, I'm not a visual artist. I'm a musician and songwriter. I used to have a link to my music in my signature. I didn't care if someone didn't like it. people have told me so and I'm ok with that, becuase yes, if you put it out there it is subject to praise and criticism. But if someone posted a thread title "what the fuck is this?" with a link to my songs, I'd be like "was that necessary? if you don't like it, fine, but you don't have to be like THAT".
it just seemed very bully-like.
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All exceptional art evokes a strong emotional response. Clearly that's what is happening here.
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I understand art is free form, and open to interpretation, and criticism and priase, etc etc.. Persoanlly, I would way rather buy a print of the picture than a painting of a picture..
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I am an artist. I can't see the piece you are talking about on my Kindle. I spent 7 years studying printmaking and glass. I can tell you that I went through plenty of critiques where people loved what I did and hated what I did. You can't please everyone with what you make. If you think that, there are plenty out there who will give you a quick attitude adjustment. There is a difference, though. Constructive criticism is helpful. People trashing something is just rude. Honestly, as an artist you have to have a thick enough skin to take either one. As a viewer, consider how it is that you would like people to respond if you put your work out there. Just a thought.
A few things, then I'll gladly shut up and prepare for the lynch mob.
1) I am sure that the artist is a wonderful woman. I am also sure that she has done some other stuff that is fabulous. Unfortunately, sometimes you hit one out of the park and sometimes you strikeout. It's art. You can't please everyone all the time and I am pretty sure that she knows this.
2) At the time I posted this, I was not aware that not appreciating someone else's art was bullying. I have a fucking opinion, and I am pretty sure I am still entitled to it. I don't really like this particular work of art (even after having seen the photo that the painting is based on - I had never seen that photo before). I was not my intent to trash the work and/or make the artist feel like the lowest form of shit out there...sometimes talking about stuff like this helps me out (it did with the Don Pendleton prints that I originally did not like but now have an appreciation for, particularly Cincinnati). I thought I would see what others had to say about it - and plenty was said. That said, I don't judge you for having an opinion if it happens to differ from mine.
3) After the comments from paulonious, I tweaked the title and original post, as I could see where I could have been a bit more tactful. I didn't do that for any other reason than I understood what the fuck he was saying. If anyone thinks that the first post is remotely close to bullying and/or being a harsh critic of one's work than I firmly think that you are a tad-bit hyper-sensitive. Bullying is a pretty strong word that gets tossed around all-too-frequently and I'm not sure it applies here.
4) Frankly, I'd rather purchase the picture of Doug and Carrie Heffernan as it speaks to me and I get it (doesn't hurt that it still is one of my favorite shows). I (still) am not necessarily "feeling" the one of Eddie based on a picture that I have never seen until just a few moments ago...
No harm was intended...apologies for coming off that way initially.
A few things, then I'll gladly shut up and prepare for the lynch mob.
1) I am sure that the artist is a wonderful woman. I am also sure that she has done some other stuff that is fabulous. Unfortunately, sometimes you hit one out of the park and sometimes you strikeout. It's art. You can't please everyone all the time and I am pretty sure that she knows this.
2) At the time I posted this, I was not aware that not appreciating someone else's art was bullying. I have a fucking opinion, and I am pretty sure I am still entitled to it. I don't really like this particular work of art (even after having seen the photo that the painting is based on - I had never seen that photo before). I was not my intent to trash the work and/or make the artist feel like the lowest form of shit out there...sometimes talking about stuff like this helps me out (it did with the Don Pendleton prints that I originally did not like but now have an appreciation for, particularly Cincinnati). I thought I would see what others had to say about it - and plenty was said. That said, I don't judge you for having an opinion if it happens to differ from mine.
3) After the comments from paulonious, I tweaked the title and original post, as I could see where I could have been a bit more tactful. I didn't do that for any other reason than I understood what the fuck he was saying. If anyone thinks that the first post is remotely close to bullying and/or being a harsh critic of one's work than I firmly think that you are a tad-bit hyper-sensitive. Bullying is a pretty strong word that gets tossed around all-too-frequently and I'm not sure it applies here.
4) Frankly, I'd rather purchase the picture of Doug and Carrie Heffernan as it speaks to me and I get it (doesn't hurt that it still is one of my favorite shows). I (still) am not necessarily "feeling" the one of Eddie based on a picture that I have never seen until just a few moments ago...
No harm was intended...apologies for coming off that way initially.
1) obviously the artist knows not everyone is going to like everything she does. doesn't mean it's open season. 2) not appreciating and downright trashing are two completely different things. 3) the word bully is somewhat of a buzzword of late, I'll give you that, but I used it and stand by it, for the reason that it seemed you weren't so much critiquing the work, but making fun of it and hoping for a like-minded response. that's the very definition. it's not hypersensitive. it's just WAY too easy to do something like that on the internet with little to no consequence.
again, no one is saying critiquing is bad. it's just all in how you say it. that is all.
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While I agree that tone sometimes supercedes words, I also can appreciate the OP re-thinking; I don't think s/he in any way intended to be an asshole, and certainly not bullying.
For what it's worth, other than the way wonky wrist, I don't think that they did a bad job. It's pretty admirable, really. Have y'all ever tried to paint eyes? If you haven't, it is easier to have them look cross-eyed than both in the same direction.
I like it and would be proud to hang it in my home or office.... But to each their own... Ummm, believe it or not, not everyone loves Pearl Jam, but I'm really in to their art.
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(I wouldn't have even known that was EV save for it being posted in this forum)
(and had to laugh at "crazy left wrist" - reminds me of a King of Queens episode)
besides, respectful criticism is ok. saying "WTF IS THIS" isn't respectful in the least.
I will edit the title and initial post so as to present my question in a more respectful light.
it just seemed very bully-like.
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And this is for Hedonist....
Persoanlly, I would way rather buy a print of the picture than a painting of a picture..
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1) I am sure that the artist is a wonderful woman. I am also sure that she has done some other stuff that is fabulous. Unfortunately, sometimes you hit one out of the park and sometimes you strikeout. It's art. You can't please everyone all the time and I am pretty sure that she knows this.
2) At the time I posted this, I was not aware that not appreciating someone else's art was bullying. I have a fucking opinion, and I am pretty sure I am still entitled to it. I don't really like this particular work of art (even after having seen the photo that the painting is based on - I had never seen that photo before). I was not my intent to trash the work and/or make the artist feel like the lowest form of shit out there...sometimes talking about stuff like this helps me out (it did with the Don Pendleton prints that I originally did not like but now have an appreciation for, particularly Cincinnati). I thought I would see what others had to say about it - and plenty was said. That said, I don't judge you for having an opinion if it happens to differ from mine.
3) After the comments from paulonious, I tweaked the title and original post, as I could see where I could have been a bit more tactful. I didn't do that for any other reason than I understood what the fuck he was saying. If anyone thinks that the first post is remotely close to bullying and/or being a harsh critic of one's work than I firmly think that you are a tad-bit hyper-sensitive. Bullying is a pretty strong word that gets tossed around all-too-frequently and I'm not sure it applies here.
4) Frankly, I'd rather purchase the picture of Doug and Carrie Heffernan as it speaks to me and I get it (doesn't hurt that it still is one of my favorite shows). I (still) am not necessarily "feeling" the one of Eddie based on a picture that I have never seen until just a few moments ago...
No harm was intended...apologies for coming off that way initially.
2) not appreciating and downright trashing are two completely different things.
3) the word bully is somewhat of a buzzword of late, I'll give you that, but I used it and stand by it, for the reason that it seemed you weren't so much critiquing the work, but making fun of it and hoping for a like-minded response. that's the very definition. it's not hypersensitive. it's just WAY too easy to do something like that on the internet with little to no consequence.
again, no one is saying critiquing is bad. it's just all in how you say it. that is all.
While I agree that tone sometimes supercedes words, I also can appreciate the OP re-thinking; I don't think s/he in any way intended to be an asshole, and certainly not bullying.
For what it's worth, other than the way wonky wrist, I don't think that they did a bad job. It's pretty admirable, really. Have y'all ever tried to paint eyes? If you haven't, it is easier to have them look cross-eyed than both in the same direction.
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