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MOSCOW, Feb 28 (Reuters) - Boris Nemtsov, a Russian opposition politician and former deputy prime minister, has been shot dead in central Moscow, the Interior Ministry said early on Saturday.

Nemtsov, 55, an outspoken critic of President Vladimir Putin, had been due to take part on Sunday in the first big opposition protest in months in the Russian capital.

He was shot four times late on Friday night, not far from the Kremlin in the center of Moscow. Police cars blocked the street where he was shot. An ambulance was also nearby.

"Nemtsov B.E. died at 2340 hours as a result of four shots in the back," an Interior Ministry spokeswoman said by telephone.

Reuters article completed at http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/27/russia-boris-nemtsov-shot_n_6772212.html


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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    In Russia, that is considered of dying by natural causes.
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,567
    Or just bad luck no ....
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,040
    Sadly reminds me of this from Henry Rollins' Before the Chop (p.225)

    "The great Russian journalist, Anna Politkavskaya whose reportage on Chechnya is unbearably heavy, her book A Small Corner of Hell: Dispatches From Chechnya, contains the kind of journalism that get you killed on the job. Ms. Politkavskaya was critical of Putin and put it in print. In October of 2006, she was shot and killed in the elevator of the apartment building she lived in. At this time the case is unsolved, but it should be obvious to all that Putin doen't like to be called out."

    Damn. :frowning:
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    in the back. that is just cowardice.

    the funny thing to me is that putin said he will personally oversee the investigation.

    is that a conflict of interest or what?

    i don't want to hear anybody ever call obama "king obama" again. if you criticize him or challenge him in an election, you don't get shot. you get embarrassed, but you don't get shot.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • kce8kce8 Posts: 1,636
    edited February 2015
    WTH...I didn´t know that...

    First thinking: I always wondered that this not has happened earlier...

    Rule #1 Do not undervalue Putin!

    Isn´t it curious that all the Putin critics are criminal or that always happens stupid things to them on the street? Bad tongues mean that seriously some people will now try to drag Putin into this. But just why should someone want to hold him accountable for the defaults or bad luck of oppositionists? :confused::i_dunno:

    Others say that he has long time planned the shit of Ukraine....
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    The cold war is back on...we better start preparing.
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,040
    BS44325 said:

    The cold war is back on...we better start preparing.

    Oh God, no! Please no more of this shit! I grew up with this nonsense... I grew up under the shadow of this brain washing nonsense as well as weekly air raid siren practice and every other sort of fear inducing bullshit.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1MQ4eyg6U4

    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Putin is currently murdering domestic opposition, shooting down passenger jets, invading Ukraine, flying bombers right up to european and north american airspace, and threatening the use of tactical nukes. This is not brain washing nonsense. This is another lunatic on the world stage taking advantage of western weakness. We ignore him at our peril.
  • backseatLover12backseatLover12 Posts: 2,312
    edited February 2015
    I worry for Pussy Riot... I'm sure that Putin has been on their tails for a while. Perhaps they're too famous to be simply shot and killed without out roar from the public.
    Post edited by backseatLover12 on
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,040
    BS44325 said:

    Putin is currently murdering domestic opposition, shooting down passenger jets, invading Ukraine, flying bombers right up to european and north american airspace, and threatening the use of tactical nukes. This is not brain washing nonsense. This is another lunatic on the world stage taking advantage of western weakness. We ignore him at our peril.

    OK, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say this is not the 50's all over again (although I don't count out the distinct possibility that it is a modern version of all that). And I certainly agree that we should not ignore Putin.

    But what is it exactly you propose we do, BS44325, to "start preparing"? Dig out backyard bomb shelters? Build more nukes? Store up 100 lb. sack of beans?

    Maybe instead maybe go here and make a donation and be glad we don't live in Russia right now:

    http://voiceproject.org/programs/pussy-riot-support-fund.php
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,040
    By the way, I figure I should put my money where my mouth is so I just did that ^^^.
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    BS44325 said:

    Putin is currently murdering domestic opposition, shooting down passenger jets, invading Ukraine, flying bombers right up to european and north american airspace, and threatening the use of tactical nukes. This is not brain washing nonsense. This is another lunatic on the world stage taking advantage of western weakness. We ignore him at our peril.

    Comedy or not, I think watching Canadian bacon might do you some good lol

    What does Putin stand to gain from attacking America? How can he profit from a terrible war that could cost millions of lives?
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    On the other hand, we have a bunch of posturing and blustery behavior (cold war) that, if people like you gulp it down, will keep the defense industries at full steam and make a profit for all the babies who suck at mama govs tits.

    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    rgambs said:

    On the other hand, we have a bunch of posturing and blustery behavior (cold war) that, if people like you gulp it down, will keep the defense industries at full steam and make a profit for all the babies who suck at mama govs tits.

    I am gulping down nothing. These are actual events. While you rail against the military industrial complex Putin tries to re-establish Russian hegemony over Europe. I'm sure the Ukrainians appreciate your movie recommendation.
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,040
    BS44325 said:

    rgambs said:

    On the other hand, we have a bunch of posturing and blustery behavior (cold war) that, if people like you gulp it down, will keep the defense industries at full steam and make a profit for all the babies who suck at mama govs tits.

    I am gulping down nothing. These are actual events. While you rail against the military industrial complex Putin tries to re-establish Russian hegemony over Europe. I'm sure the Ukrainians appreciate your movie recommendation.
    I'm sorry, BS, but this really does sound like the 50's all over again. Putin, hegemony over Europe? I don't think so.

    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    brianlux said:

    BS44325 said:

    rgambs said:

    On the other hand, we have a bunch of posturing and blustery behavior (cold war) that, if people like you gulp it down, will keep the defense industries at full steam and make a profit for all the babies who suck at mama govs tits.

    I am gulping down nothing. These are actual events. While you rail against the military industrial complex Putin tries to re-establish Russian hegemony over Europe. I'm sure the Ukrainians appreciate your movie recommendation.
    I'm sorry, BS, but this really does sound like the 50's all over again. Putin, hegemony over Europe? I don't think so.

    The people of the baltic states aren't so sure.
  • badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255
    edited February 2015
    BS44325 said:

    rgambs said:

    On the other hand, we have a bunch of posturing and blustery behavior (cold war) that, if people like you gulp it down, will keep the defense industries at full steam and make a profit for all the babies who suck at mama govs tits.

    I am gulping down nothing. These are actual events. While you rail against the military industrial complex Putin tries to re-establish Russian hegemony over Europe. I'm sure the Ukrainians appreciate your movie recommendation.
    Actual like the Mossad assignating Iranian scientists in OTHER countries? Real like the Mossad assignating that diplomat a couple years ago? You mean real like those events? What's the difference? Don't answer, I already know.

    Turn off your tv
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,040
    BS44325 said:

    brianlux said:

    BS44325 said:

    rgambs said:

    On the other hand, we have a bunch of posturing and blustery behavior (cold war) that, if people like you gulp it down, will keep the defense industries at full steam and make a profit for all the babies who suck at mama govs tits.

    I am gulping down nothing. These are actual events. While you rail against the military industrial complex Putin tries to re-establish Russian hegemony over Europe. I'm sure the Ukrainians appreciate your movie recommendation.
    I'm sorry, BS, but this really does sound like the 50's all over again. Putin, hegemony over Europe? I don't think so.

    The people of the baltic states aren't so sure.
    a

    Yes, I agree that the Baltic states could destabilize. This is not the same as to "re-establish Russian hegemony over Europe." Exaggerations like that weaken your argument.

    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • rr165892rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    I believe Russia will never turn back the clock and relive its Communist Cold War past.To much money now,to many gazillionaire Russian businessmen and a established free market economy.Putin may have some kind of small man power complex and likes to dick around with his weak neighbors but He won't have the support or stones to make his little quest for power more wide spread.
    They are taking a bath with their economy right now and I think reports about him having 86% support of the people is manufactured.Brian I don't think you need to climb under your elementary school desk again just yet.
    Someone will probably take a shot in Putin Direction sometime soon.This latest power move will not go un answered.
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    BS44325 said:

    rgambs said:

    On the other hand, we have a bunch of posturing and blustery behavior (cold war) that, if people like you gulp it down, will keep the defense industries at full steam and make a profit for all the babies who suck at mama govs tits.

    I am gulping down nothing. These are actual events. While you rail against the military industrial complex Putin tries to re-establish Russian hegemony over Europe. I'm sure the Ukrainians appreciate your movie recommendation.
    Europe is full of powerful militaries so why are you eager to get us involved?

    What does Russia stand to gain by attacking America?
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Europe does not have powerful militaries. They would all fold immediately and have folded with respect to Ukraine. Putin wants to break NATO and is ready to do it. For everybody who wants a world with "less america" this is what it looks like.
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    badbrains said:

    BS44325 said:

    rgambs said:

    On the other hand, we have a bunch of posturing and blustery behavior (cold war) that, if people like you gulp it down, will keep the defense industries at full steam and make a profit for all the babies who suck at mama govs tits.

    I am gulping down nothing. These are actual events. While you rail against the military industrial complex Putin tries to re-establish Russian hegemony over Europe. I'm sure the Ukrainians appreciate your movie recommendation.
    Actual like the Mossad assignating Iranian scientists in OTHER countries? Real like the Mossad assignating that diplomat a couple years ago? You mean real like those events? What's the difference? Don't answer, I already know.

    Turn off your tv
    I don't understand your comparison. Please explain.
  • badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255
    BS44325 said:

    badbrains said:

    BS44325 said:

    rgambs said:

    On the other hand, we have a bunch of posturing and blustery behavior (cold war) that, if people like you gulp it down, will keep the defense industries at full steam and make a profit for all the babies who suck at mama govs tits.

    I am gulping down nothing. These are actual events. While you rail against the military industrial complex Putin tries to re-establish Russian hegemony over Europe. I'm sure the Ukrainians appreciate your movie recommendation.
    Actual like the Mossad assignating Iranian scientists in OTHER countries? Real like the Mossad assignating that diplomat a couple years ago? You mean real like those events? What's the difference? Don't answer, I already know.

    Turn off your tv
    I don't understand your comparison. Please explain.
    No it's ok, I wouldn't want you to call me anti-Semite or hitler or some other lame comment about me wanting people to wear yellow stars.
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    badbrains said:

    BS44325 said:

    badbrains said:

    BS44325 said:

    rgambs said:

    On the other hand, we have a bunch of posturing and blustery behavior (cold war) that, if people like you gulp it down, will keep the defense industries at full steam and make a profit for all the babies who suck at mama govs tits.

    I am gulping down nothing. These are actual events. While you rail against the military industrial complex Putin tries to re-establish Russian hegemony over Europe. I'm sure the Ukrainians appreciate your movie recommendation.
    Actual like the Mossad assignating Iranian scientists in OTHER countries? Real like the Mossad assignating that diplomat a couple years ago? You mean real like those events? What's the difference? Don't answer, I already know.

    Turn off your tv
    I don't understand your comparison. Please explain.
    No it's ok, I wouldn't want you to call me anti-Semite or hitler or some other lame comment about me wanting people to wear yellow stars.
    Not a problem badbrains. I was just hoping to understand why no matter what thread I am commenting on you always come back to me with a comment on Israel.
  • badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255
    BS44325 said:

    badbrains said:

    BS44325 said:

    badbrains said:

    BS44325 said:

    rgambs said:

    On the other hand, we have a bunch of posturing and blustery behavior (cold war) that, if people like you gulp it down, will keep the defense industries at full steam and make a profit for all the babies who suck at mama govs tits.

    I am gulping down nothing. These are actual events. While you rail against the military industrial complex Putin tries to re-establish Russian hegemony over Europe. I'm sure the Ukrainians appreciate your movie recommendation.
    Actual like the Mossad assignating Iranian scientists in OTHER countries? Real like the Mossad assignating that diplomat a couple years ago? You mean real like those events? What's the difference? Don't answer, I already know.

    Turn off your tv
    I don't understand your comparison. Please explain.
    No it's ok, I wouldn't want you to call me anti-Semite or hitler or some other lame comment about me wanting people to wear yellow stars.
    Not a problem badbrains. I was just hoping to understand why no matter what thread I am commenting on you always come back to me with a comment on Israel.
    Because the government of Israel has no problem assassinating scientists, kill innocent civilians both women/children and you have no problem defending them. But yet when a fucktard who CLAIMS to be Muslim does anything remotely the same, you beat the war drums and rattle the sabers. I'm beginning to wonder if Netanyahu is a 10C member with the same initials as you.
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    badbrains said:

    BS44325 said:

    badbrains said:

    BS44325 said:

    badbrains said:

    BS44325 said:

    rgambs said:

    On the other hand, we have a bunch of posturing and blustery behavior (cold war) that, if people like you gulp it down, will keep the defense industries at full steam and make a profit for all the babies who suck at mama govs tits.

    I am gulping down nothing. These are actual events. While you rail against the military industrial complex Putin tries to re-establish Russian hegemony over Europe. I'm sure the Ukrainians appreciate your movie recommendation.
    Actual like the Mossad assignating Iranian scientists in OTHER countries? Real like the Mossad assignating that diplomat a couple years ago? You mean real like those events? What's the difference? Don't answer, I already know.

    Turn off your tv
    I don't understand your comparison. Please explain.
    No it's ok, I wouldn't want you to call me anti-Semite or hitler or some other lame comment about me wanting people to wear yellow stars.
    Not a problem badbrains. I was just hoping to understand why no matter what thread I am commenting on you always come back to me with a comment on Israel.
    Because the government of Israel has no problem assassinating scientists, kill innocent civilians both women/children and you have no problem defending them. But yet when a fucktard who CLAIMS to be Muslim does anything remotely the same, you beat the war drums and rattle the sabers. I'm beginning to wonder if Netanyahu is a 10C member with the same initials as you.
    I have never defended any of those things. Again that is you projecting on what you think I might be. It is dishonest. This is a discussion on Russia. Either add something intelligent on the subject or don't. Calling me Netanyahu just confirms my earlier posts.
  • badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255
    edited February 2015
    BS44325 said:

    badbrains said:

    BS44325 said:

    badbrains said:

    BS44325 said:

    badbrains said:

    BS44325 said:

    rgambs said:

    On the other hand, we have a bunch of posturing and blustery behavior (cold war) that, if people like you gulp it down, will keep the defense industries at full steam and make a profit for all the babies who suck at mama govs tits.

    I am gulping down nothing. These are actual events. While you rail against the military industrial complex Putin tries to re-establish Russian hegemony over Europe. I'm sure the Ukrainians appreciate your movie recommendation.
    Actual like the Mossad assignating Iranian scientists in OTHER countries? Real like the Mossad assignating that diplomat a couple years ago? You mean real like those events? What's the difference? Don't answer, I already know.

    Turn off your tv
    I don't understand your comparison. Please explain.
    No it's ok, I wouldn't want you to call me anti-Semite or hitler or some other lame comment about me wanting people to wear yellow stars.
    Not a problem badbrains. I was just hoping to understand why no matter what thread I am commenting on you always come back to me with a comment on Israel.
    Because the government of Israel has no problem assassinating scientists, kill innocent civilians both women/children and you have no problem defending them. But yet when a fucktard who CLAIMS to be Muslim does anything remotely the same, you beat the war drums and rattle the sabers. I'm beginning to wonder if Netanyahu is a 10C member with the same initials as you.
    I have never defended any of those things. Again that is you projecting on what you think I might be. It is dishonest. This is a discussion on Russia. Either add something intelligent on the subject or don't. Calling me Netanyahu just confirms my earlier posts.
    What, that you're a war monger LIKE him. Ok.

    Edit-yes u did defend those because that's what started this little back and forth between u and I all those months ago.
    Post edited by badbrains on
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    What does Russia stand to gain by attacking America?

    What would you have us do to confront this Russian threat that you perceive?
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    badbrains said:

    BS44325 said:

    badbrains said:

    BS44325 said:

    badbrains said:

    BS44325 said:

    badbrains said:

    BS44325 said:

    rgambs said:

    On the other hand, we have a bunch of posturing and blustery behavior (cold war) that, if people like you gulp it down, will keep the defense industries at full steam and make a profit for all the babies who suck at mama govs tits.

    I am gulping down nothing. These are actual events. While you rail against the military industrial complex Putin tries to re-establish Russian hegemony over Europe. I'm sure the Ukrainians appreciate your movie recommendation.
    Actual like the Mossad assignating Iranian scientists in OTHER countries? Real like the Mossad assignating that diplomat a couple years ago? You mean real like those events? What's the difference? Don't answer, I already know.

    Turn off your tv
    I don't understand your comparison. Please explain.
    No it's ok, I wouldn't want you to call me anti-Semite or hitler or some other lame comment about me wanting people to wear yellow stars.
    Not a problem badbrains. I was just hoping to understand why no matter what thread I am commenting on you always come back to me with a comment on Israel.
    Because the government of Israel has no problem assassinating scientists, kill innocent civilians both women/children and you have no problem defending them. But yet when a fucktard who CLAIMS to be Muslim does anything remotely the same, you beat the war drums and rattle the sabers. I'm beginning to wonder if Netanyahu is a 10C member with the same initials as you.
    I have never defended any of those things. Again that is you projecting on what you think I might be. It is dishonest. This is a discussion on Russia. Either add something intelligent on the subject or don't. Calling me Netanyahu just confirms my earlier posts.
    What, that you're a war monger LIKE him. Ok.

    Edit-yes u did defend those because that's what started this little back and forth between u and I all those months ago.
    No. I criticized Israel and I criticized Hamas. You defended Hamas's right to slaughter Palestinians it saw as traitors. This was too difficult for you to handle. You claim to care about Muslims but you completely ignore their slaughter and subjugation as long as the ones who are doing the killing are fighting Israel in the process. This has been impossible for you to reconcile and I have been your troll target for having the audacity of pointing this out.
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    rgambs said:

    What does Russia stand to gain by attacking America?

    What would you have us do to confront this Russian threat that you perceive?

    I don't believe Russia is interested in attacking America but it does have interest in breaking NATO and reclaiming it's old territory. It doesn't want to restore communism but it does seek to reconsitute itself as a Petro-dictatorship over eastern europe. Prevention of this doesn't require "confrontation" just yet but it does require the beefing up of NATO as well as heavy sanctions. The russian reset experiment should be declared publicly to be over and it needs to be made clear that Article 5 still stands...any attack on a NATO member will be seen as an attack on us all. Putin has tested and defeated western resolve with respect to Ukraine. A baltic state such as Estonia will be next. If the west fails to respond to that then an iron curtain will fall on Europe once again.
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