Canada to allow doctor-assisted suicide

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  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    PJ_Soul said:

    lukin2006 said:

    Well I never said the law was bad...whatever. Just glad it gives so much pleasure...even though anyone that might have to face this tough personal decision has your support...

    Pardon? I know you didn't.... I think you might be misunderstanding some part of what I said? Maybe you thought I was arguing with you when I wasn't there, or...? I was actually agreeing with you.

    Pleasure? I wouldn't put it that way. Great relief is more like it. I don't understand what you mean by the last sentence of your post.
    Not a problem here...the most important thing is to get this legislation passed by June 6 (I think that's the date the SOC gave the government to change the law). So I guess this is partly on Harper who obviously did nothing after the SOC ruling, and wasted valuable time. I suspect the big hurdle might be the unelected overly useless senate.
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  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    Supreme Court of Canada strikes down Harper government’s unconstitutional tough-on-crime law

    http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/supreme-court-of-canada-strikes-down-harper-governments-unconstitutional-tough-on-crime-law

    And another SOC rejection of the Harper government...you think he'd have advisors that would have instructed him on if proposed legislation would pass SOC challenges, of course he probably wouldn't have listened anyways...
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    JWPearl said:



    rgambs wrote: »

    Indeed, criminalizing this has never made sense!


    some people are let to die painfully when theres no hope and you call this criminalizing. i call it peace

    and yet we have no problem euthanising our dying pets to save them the pain.

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,759
    edited April 2016
    catefrances said:

    JWPearl said:



    rgambs wrote: »

    Indeed, criminalizing this has never made sense!


    some people are let to die painfully when theres no hope and you call this criminalizing. i call it peace

    and yet we have no problem euthanising our dying pets to save them the pain.

    :confused: I think you have misread the post you're responding to. Or someone did. The quoting is all messed up.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    PJ_Soul said:

    catefrances said:

    JWPearl said:



    rgambs wrote: »

    Indeed, criminalizing this has never made sense!


    some people are let to die painfully when theres no hope and you call this criminalizing. i call it peace

    and yet we have no problem euthanising our dying pets to save them the pain.

    :confused: I think you have misread the post you're responding to. Or someone did. The quoting is all messed up.
    no I didn't misread.. but I did screw up the quoting. lol

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,759
    catefrances said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    catefrances said:

    JWPearl said:



    rgambs wrote: »

    Indeed, criminalizing this has never made sense!


    some people are let to die painfully when theres no hope and you call this criminalizing. i call it peace

    and yet we have no problem euthanising our dying pets to save them the pain.

    :confused: I think you have misread the post you're responding to. Or someone did. The quoting is all messed up.
    no I didn't misread.. but I did screw up the quoting. lol

    Okay, I don't understand what you meant then. You call keeping euthanasia illegal peace?
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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    I think (apologies if I'm incorrect) she means it not being illegal can bring peace of soul, mind, whatever? to the person wanting to end their pain. That, if we do as much for our beloved pets when it's the right thing to do for them, we should even moreso be able to exercise it for ourselves.

    My take, anyway.
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    hedonist said:

    I think (apologies if I'm incorrect) she means it not being illegal can bring peace of soul, mind, whatever? to the person wanting to end their pain. That, if we do as much for our beloved pets when it's the right thing to do for them, we should even moreso be able to exercise it for ourselves.

    My take, anyway.

    yep. :)

    how is it we don't want to see our pets suffer, but we seem to be okay with standing by as our human loved ones suffer.

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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    hedonist said:

    I think (apologies if I'm incorrect) she means it not being illegal can bring peace of soul, mind, whatever? to the person wanting to end their pain. That, if we do as much for our beloved pets when it's the right thing to do for them, we should even moreso be able to exercise it for ourselves.

    My take, anyway.

    And the wonderful church is for the PAIN and suffering. Church/God people at it again.
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  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    ^^^
    And here is where it starts to get messy.
    Politics and religion trying to decide over a humans free will.
    It will never work.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,759
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    ^^^
    And here is where it starts to get messy.
    Politics and religion trying to decide over a humans free will.
    It will never work.

    Of course it will. It works in plenty of places. It's not like this is a groundbreaking experiment.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    PJ_Soul said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    ^^^
    And here is where it starts to get messy.
    Politics and religion trying to decide over a humans free will.
    It will never work.

    Of course it will. It works in plenty of places. It's not like this is a groundbreaking experiment.
    Not groundbreaking.
    Where does it work?
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,759
    edited April 2016
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    ^^^
    And here is where it starts to get messy.
    Politics and religion trying to decide over a humans free will.
    It will never work.

    Of course it will. It works in plenty of places. It's not like this is a groundbreaking experiment.
    Not groundbreaking.
    Where does it work?
    Nor an experiment.

    Euthanasia is legal in the Netherlands, Belgium, Ireland, Colombia, and Luxembourg. Assisted suicide is legal in Switzerland, Germany, Japan, Albania, and in the US states of Washington, Oregon, Vermont, New Mexico, Montana and California. And, finally, in Canada.

    Did you think Canada was a pioneer with this or something? They have tons if data and examples to work with. Doctor assisted suicide works very smoothly where it's legal.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited April 2016
    PJ_Soul said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    ^^^
    And here is where it starts to get messy.
    Politics and religion trying to decide over a humans free will.
    It will never work.

    Of course it will. It works in plenty of places. It's not like this is a groundbreaking experiment.
    Not groundbreaking.
    Where does it work?
    Nor an experiment.

    Euthanasia is legal in the Netherlands, Belgium, Ireland, Colombia, and Luxembourg. Assisted suicide is legal in Switzerland, Germany, Japan, Albania, and in the US states of Washington, Oregon, Vermont, New Mexico, Montana and California. And, finally, in Canada.

    Did you think Canada was a pioneer with this or something? They have tons if data and examples to work with. Doctor assisted suicide works very smoothly where it's legal.
    No not a pioneer but I think it's great that there really is no religious red tape anymore to make it legal and functioning in our country.
    All the anti abortion religious/assistied suicide folk have no quarter anymore when it comes to pp. A great step.
  • BC658728
    BC658728 Posts: 3
    There is no legal euthanasia in Ireland. We only legalised divorce in 1995. There is no way we would be that progressive!!!
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,759
    Bculleton said:

    There is no legal euthanasia in Ireland. We only legalised divorce in 1995. There is no way we would be that progressive!!!

    Fair enough - the source was wrong on that one I guess.
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  • 1ThoughtKnown
    1ThoughtKnown Posts: 6,155
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    ^^^
    And here is where it starts to get messy.
    Politics and religion trying to decide over a humans free will.
    It will never work.

    You can choose a ready guide in some celestial voice
    If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice
    You can choose from phantom fears and kindness that can kill
    I will choose a path that's clear
    I will choose freewill
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    1ThoughtKnown said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    ^^^
    And here is where it starts to get messy.
    Politics and religion trying to decide over a humans free will.
    It will never work.

    You can choose a ready guide in some celestial voice
    If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice
    You can choose from phantom fears and kindness that can kill
    I will choose a path that's clear
    I will choose freewill
    Love those boys and those lyrics.
    :rock_on:

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