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  • rr165892rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    Common sense.
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    Indeed, criminalizing this has never made sense!
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  • Last-12-ExitLast-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    It's absurd to me that Jack Kevorkian spent a day in jail. Good for you Canada.
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    Last-12-Exit wrote: »
    It's absurd to me that Jack Kevorkian spent a day in jail. Good for you Canada.
    100%!
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,003
    Damn you guys up there ahead of the curve clap clap clap
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    i don't know why this is not legal in all 50 states.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,341
    Finally, some good news here.

    Other than their insane practice of scraping the landscape for that dirty tar sand, Canada sure has it's shit together. Legal hemp crops and legalized doctor assisted suicide. Good show, Canada! :clap:
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  • JWPearlJWPearl Posts: 19,893
    rgambs wrote: »
    Indeed, criminalizing this has never made sense!

    some people are let to die painfully when theres no hope and you call this criminalizing. i call it peace
  • JWPearlJWPearl Posts: 19,893
    sorry i read your post wrong lol
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,995
    Finally!!!
    Now to see how this pans out. The legal matters need to be dealt with ASAP.
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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,337
    PJ_Soul said:

    Finally!!!
    Now to see how this pans out. The legal matters need to be dealt with ASAP.

    The CONS will fuck it up, just like the prostitution deal last year.

  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,845
    There is one year, I believe, for the particulars to be worked out. This sounds like a long time but really isn't, given the importance of this issue and the wide scope. We don't want to face any charter challenges, or legal challenges if the details aren't clear. Really, at this point about all we know is that it appears to apply to competent adults and does not specify that the medical condition is quickly terminal.

    A link, for those who are interested:

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/four-issues-surrounding-the-supreme-court-ruling-on-assisted-death/article22885794/
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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    It strikes me how we're free to inject silicone and other shit into our bodies, have an abortion, increase the size of one's tits that'd that make triple-D's look like mosquito bites, fork our tongues, have "horns" implanted, do that hook-in-the-skin thing which I'll never get but hey, have at it! Jump from a plane, climb a dangerous mountain, shoot paint out of your ass to create art.

    ...but THIS is a no-no in so many places?
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    Great point Hedo! I tell me family if I get terminal take me fishing and I'll go for one last swim lol
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,845
    hedonist said:

    It strikes me how we're free to inject silicone and other shit into our bodies, have an abortion, increase the size of one's tits that'd that make triple-D's look like mosquito bites, fork our tongues, have "horns" implanted, do that hook-in-the-skin thing which I'll never get but hey, have at it! Jump from a plane, climb a dangerous mountain, shoot paint out of your ass to create art.

    ...but THIS is a no-no in so many places?

    That's quite a mixed bag of actions, and none of them (with the possible exception of abortion, depending on your viewpoint) involve one individual directly causing or facilitating the death of another individual.
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  • Last-12-ExitLast-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    oftenreading said:

    hedonist said:

    It strikes me how we're free to inject silicone and other shit into our bodies, have an abortion, increase the size of one's tits that'd that make triple-D's look like mosquito bites, fork our tongues, have "horns" implanted, do that hook-in-the-skin thing which I'll never get but hey, have at it! Jump from a plane, climb a dangerous mountain, shoot paint out of your ass to create art.

    ...but THIS is a no-no in so many places?

    That's quite a mixed bag of actions, and none of them (with the possible exception of abortion, depending on your viewpoint) involve one individual directly causing or facilitating the death of another individual.
    Ask Melissa Rivers her view on that.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    Last-12-Exit said:

    oftenreading said:

    hedonist said:

    It strikes me how we're free to inject silicone and other shit into our bodies, have an abortion, increase the size of one's tits that'd that make triple-D's look like mosquito bites, fork our tongues, have "horns" implanted, do that hook-in-the-skin thing which I'll never get but hey, have at it! Jump from a plane, climb a dangerous mountain, shoot paint out of your ass to create art.

    ...but THIS is a no-no in so many places?

    That's quite a mixed bag of actions, and none of them (with the possible exception of abortion, depending on your viewpoint) involve one individual directly causing or facilitating the death of another individual.
    Ask Melissa Rivers her view on that.
    good point. but there are risks with any surgery. including death. regardless if the procedure is elective or not. most of those are not deliberately causing death though.
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  • Last-12-ExitLast-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    I know. I was nit picking with that one.
  • PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    Last-12-Exit said:

    I know. I was nit picking with that one.

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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,845
    Last-12-Exit said:

    I know. I was nit picking with that one.

    Would you prefer one individual intentionally causing or facilitating the death of another individual, Oh Prince of the Nit Pickers? :no_mouth:

    (the official definition of nitpicker is "a person who nitpicks, especially habitually". Helpful, isn't it?)
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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    oftenreading said:

    hedonist said:

    It strikes me how we're free to inject silicone and other shit into our bodies, have an abortion, increase the size of one's tits that'd that make triple-D's look like mosquito bites, fork our tongues, have "horns" implanted, do that hook-in-the-skin thing which I'll never get but hey, have at it! Jump from a plane, climb a dangerous mountain, shoot paint out of your ass to create art.

    ...but THIS is a no-no in so many places?

    That's quite a mixed bag of actions, and none of them (with the possible exception of abortion, depending on your viewpoint) involve one individual directly causing or facilitating the death of another individual.
    True, but what if it's that person's choice? One made with lucidity, sound mind, etc. To me, it's more about compassion and ending pain, vs. death (in the non-willing sense, that is).
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,845
    Tits or death?

    Not quite cake or death, but I still submit there's a difference.
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  • PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    oftenreading said:

    Tits or death?

    Not quite cake or death, but I still submit there's a difference.

    Who would want death over tits?
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    oftenreading said:

    Tits or death?

    Not quite cake or death, but I still submit there's a difference.

    Patrick Henry may or may not agree with you ;)
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,845
    hedonist said:

    oftenreading said:

    Tits or death?

    Not quite cake or death, but I still submit there's a difference.

    Patrick Henry may or may not agree with you ;)
    "Give me mammaries or give me death!"
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    I think Hedo's point is a valid one. There is a litany of risks a normal person can take which have dubious benefit, but we allow a person to decide fot themselves if they want to look like an inflatable doll, lizard, or walking tattoo/pincushion. Likewise, we allow people to subject themselves to pain, again for dubious reasons, but we don't allow them to ameliorate pain for totally credible reasons? We decide when it's time for our pets to stop suffering, but we require humans to suffer to the very last breath? Which, btw, does not come easily or peacefully, in case you have never seen a death rattle.
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  • backseatLover12backseatLover12 Posts: 2,312
    rgambs said:

    We decide when it's time for our pets to stop suffering, but we require humans to suffer to the very last breath? Which, btw, does not come easily or peacefully, in case you have never seen a death rattle.

    Yep.
  • Last-12-ExitLast-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:



    Last-12-Exit said:

    I know. I was nit picking with that one.

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    Nitpicking is still better than trolling.
  • rr165892rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    edited February 2015
    rgambs said:

    I think Hedo's point is a valid one. There is a litany of risks a normal person can take which have dubious benefit, but we allow a person to decide fot themselves if they want to look like an inflatable doll, lizard, or walking tattoo/pincushion. Likewise, we allow people to subject themselves to pain, again for dubious reasons, but we don't allow them to ameliorate pain for totally credible reasons? We decide when it's time for our pets to stop suffering, but we require humans to suffer to the very last breath? Which, btw, does not come easily or peacefully, in case you have never seen a death rattle.

    It's so hypocritical.
    It reminds me of when we were discussing prostitution and I think it was Hedo who brought up the fact that People in the porn industry can fuck for $$$ and its legal but if the same two people (actors)went outside and the guy paid the girl 50$ for the same sex they just had,he is now breaking the law.Absolute stupidity.I mean everyone can pay to watch them screw and that's ok also.smfh

    We need common sense,non religious influenced laws.Gay marriage,Legalization of Marijauna(at least medically).Drug tests and contraception for people living off entitlements(I know a lot of the more liberal here will frown on that one)Prostitution.Right to die with dignity.etc,etc,etc.....
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,379
    rgambs said:

    I think Hedo's point is a valid one. There is a litany of risks a normal person can take which have dubious benefit, but we allow a person to decide fot themselves if they want to look like an inflatable doll, lizard, or walking tattoo/pincushion. Likewise, we allow people to subject themselves to pain, again for dubious reasons, but we don't allow them to ameliorate pain for totally credible reasons? We decide when it's time for our pets to stop suffering, but we require humans to suffer to the very last breath? Which, btw, does not come easily or peacefully, in case you have never seen a death rattle.

    I support the right to die, but hedonist lists actions that are RISKS. choosing death is not a risk, it's a certainty. and what I think people are missing here is not that it was illegal to take one's life; it was illegal for a doctor to help you do it. massive difference. there's a whole shitload of reasons this is a lightning rod of an issue.

    it is a slippery slope with a lot of potential downside. this is an issue that will require legislation that needs to be intricately worded for it not to be a total clusterfuck.

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