Nothing here, plz move on

BinFrog

I have 2 little girls at home. Regardless of whether or not I click on the link, I see your topic. Every day. So that means every time I come here, regardless of whether or not I enter your thread, I see a topic about a horrific thing done to a 19 month old girl. EVERY TIME.

The world is a shitty place. There's a lot of really disgusting things out there. Nobody needs to see it here. And it doesn't do any good. I'm not saying people should be censored. I'm saying they should censor themselves.

Here is how AMT is described in the forum listing:

Politics, current events - reasoned debate and discussion - we can all learn something new.

What debate or discussion can be had over a story like this, and what can we learn? There's no debate: it was a horrific story. There's no discussion: it was a horrific story. What did I learn? Nothing. F'd up people do f'd up things in this world. I don't come to this forum to be reminded of this fact. Politics, trends, big news stories...all good here. Just use some discretion. That's all.

But again, that's just me. I respect the fact that others here might not agree with me.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

BinFrog wrote: »

I have 2 little girls at home. Regardless of whether or not I click on the link, I see your topic. Every day. So that means every time I come here, regardless of whether or not I enter your thread, I see a topic about a horrific thing done to a 19 month old girl. EVERY TIME.

The world is a shitty place. There's a lot of really disgusting things out there. Nobody needs to see it here. And it doesn't do any good. I'm not saying people should be censored. I'm saying they should censor themselves.

Here is how AMT is described in the forum listing:

Politics, current events - reasoned debate and discussion - we can all learn something new.

What debate or discussion can be had over a story like this, and what can we learn? There's no debate: it was a horrific story. There's no discussion: it was a horrific story. What did I learn? Nothing. F'd up people do f'd up things in this world. I don't come to this forum to be reminded of this fact. Politics, trends, big news stories...all good here. Just use some discretion. That's all.

But again, that's just me. I respect the fact that others here might not agree with me.

Bin...

I get where you are at. I have not deliberately been trying to provoke an argument with you or Last 12 or Backseat.

If anything, a reasonable discussion occurred as to the level of content one should expect to find on the MT.

I just thought it was unfair to 'attack' BB for what some felt was a lack of judgement. I think it would have been fairer to just say something like, "You know what? I find these topics really disturbing. I can't participate in these types of discussions- they're too much for me. I wish we didn't have to hear of such events."

For some, coming across news such as this is easier to digest sharing their dismay with others. Internalizing such a headline should not be a requirement of every individual. I have always felt that this community was one that people could access with a high degree of tolerance and understanding.

There are people in the other thread that have been asking where to locate the video of the Jordan pilot burning. I don't wish to see it, but for whatever reason... they do. I am not judging them for this: they have their reasons.

badbrains

Binfrog, she was 19 days old not 19 month old.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

badbrains wrote: »

Binfrog, she was 19 days old not 19 month old.

So if you never felt like you got kicked in the balls... well... you did.

BinFrog

badbrains wrote: »

Binfrog, she was 19 days old not 19 month old.

Equally bad. Same thing.

rr165892

Bin,It's like the content on the evening news.If it disturbes you don't watch.Hell don't turn on your tv.
We cannot bury our heads in the sand because of the evils in this world.

BinFrog

rr165892 wrote: »

Bin,It's like the content on the evening news.If it disturbes you don't watch.Hell don't turn on your tv.
We cannot bury our heads in the sand because of the evils in this world.

I watch the news to see what is going on. Same as going to a news site.

I'm not suggesting ignorance. I'm suggesting there's a time and a place. 1-off disgusting news stories about the worst people imaginable...on a PJ board that happens to have some non-PJ forums...really?

Anybody can copy and paste a url. I'm just saying a little discretion is not a bad thing. Whether or not people choose to click on a topic to see the discussion, they still see the topic. Sometimes that is the worst part.

HughFreakingDillon

BinFrog wrote: »

I have 2 little girls at home. Regardless of whether or not I click on the link, I see your topic. Every day. So that means every time I come here, regardless of whether or not I enter your thread, I see a topic about a horrific thing done to a 19 month old girl. EVERY TIME.

The world is a shitty place. There's a lot of really disgusting things out there. Nobody needs to see it here. And it doesn't do any good. I'm not saying people should be censored. I'm saying they should censor themselves.

Here is how AMT is described in the forum listing:

Politics, current events - reasoned debate and discussion - we can all learn something new.

What debate or discussion can be had over a story like this, and what can we learn? There's no debate: it was a horrific story. There's no discussion: it was a horrific story. What did I learn? Nothing. F'd up people do f'd up things in this world. I don't come to this forum to be reminded of this fact. Politics, trends, big news stories...all good here. Just use some discretion. That's all.

But again, that's just me. I respect the fact that others here might not agree with me.

take some ownership on clicking in the thread that was described in the title just as it was. it's not like the thread title was misleading or lacking information. your fault, not anyone else's.

jeffbr

Not that BB needs defending, but I just wanted to throw my 2 cents into the discussion. What he posted has actually started a discussion. It may not be the discussion intended, or a discussion specifically about the original post, but a healthy discussion nonetheless. I did open the thread when it had the original title. I read the first paragraph and decided I didn't need to read any more of it. But I am interested in how the discussion evolved. I self-censor what I read. For some reason I can tolerate a lot of horrible things, except when it comes to kids and animals. I don't care to read all of the details. But the discussion has touched on the death penalty, shock value, censorship, etc... I think that is healthy. The other thing this forum does is allow people to express shock, and get immediate feedback from others who are sympathetic. The forum can be a therapeutic way for people to deal with something by talking about it, rather than simply internalizing it and having it eat you up. So I'd rather people post what they feel they need to, and I can decide what to read, what discussions to participate in, and how I react to what is posted.

BinFrog

paulonious wrote: »

take some ownership on clicking in the thread that was described in the title just as it was. it's not like the thread title was misleading or lacking information. your fault, not anyone else's.

Sorry, but I am not buying that. I hear what you are saying and I know what you mean, but it's not that easy. Why did I click on it? Because seeing it listed among the other threads stuck out like a sore thumb and the topic alone I found to be very disturbing. I can't "un-see" topics. the topic wording was every bit as bad as the information found in the article.

It just seemed like a "look at me" kind of post with no real basis for a debate or discussion.

Last-12-Exit

BinFrog wrote: »

paulonious wrote: »

take some ownership on clicking in the thread that was described in the title just as it was. it's not like the thread title was misleading or lacking information. your fault, not anyone else's.

Sorry, but I am not buying that. I hear what you are saying and I know what you mean, but it's not that easy. Why did I click on it? Because seeing it listed among the other threads stuck out like a sore thumb and the topic alone I found to be very disturbing. I can't "un-see" topics. the topic wording was every bit as bad as the information found in the article.

It just seemed like a "look at me" kind of post with no real basis for a debate or discussion.

Come on...........so you HAD to click on it??

BinFrog

Last-12-Exit wrote: »

Come on...........so you HAD to click on it??

No, I didn't. I clicked on it so I could then say something about how it was extremely disturbing.

lolobugg

I clicked on this after the post was changed.
I have picked up the gist of this from the subsequent posts.
This is why I am an independent and not a democrat.
I am pro choice and believe in a humane death penalty.
I think this thread has started a healthy discussion.
Being the father of a 2 year old girl i probably would not have read the article but i defend BB's right to post it as long as it was described correctly in the thread title.

hedonist

Good posts, jeff and lolo.

badbrains

Ya, thanks guys for posting. Kind of feel like a pussy for taking it down.

HughFreakingDillon

BinFrog wrote: »

Last-12-Exit wrote: »

Come on...........so you HAD to click on it??

No, I didn't. I clicked on it so I could then say something about how it was extremely disturbing.

so I guess the lesson here is "think before you click". not to beat a dead horse, but you are angry with someone posting a story about something that you are now disgusted with seeing in your feed but you knew what you were doing when you clicked on it and commented.

that's gold, Jerry, GOLD. LOL

BinFrog

paulonious wrote: »

BinFrog wrote: »

Last-12-Exit wrote: »

Come on...........so you HAD to click on it??

No, I didn't. I clicked on it so I could then say something about how it was extremely disturbing.

so I guess the lesson here is "think before you click". not to beat a dead horse, but you are angry with someone posting a story about something that you are now disgusted with seeing in your feed but you knew what you were doing when you clicked on it and commented.

that's gold, Jerry, GOLD. LOL

Good Seinfeld reference. Not lost on me.

backseatLover12

Good post BinFrog and exactly my point. And exactly why I often think it's a toxic place. Not that BB is bad at all, and I never meant he was, just that sometimes crap gets flung around and it isn't pretty, the way we treat each other isn't pretty and the stories sometimes, they're not meant to cause debate nor discussion but for shock value.

HughFreakingDillon

backseatLover12 wrote: »

Good post BinFrog and exactly my point. And exactly why I often think it's a toxic place. Not that BB is bad at all, and I never meant he was, just that sometimes crap gets flung around and it isn't pretty, the way we treat each other isn't pretty and the stories sometimes, they're not meant to cause debate nor discussion but for shock value.

so then by saying this you are stating that you think badbrains posted it for no other reason than for shock value. that actually, in my opinion, is insulting.

or flinging crap, if you will.

the irony here is that if it hadn't been for your and others' outrage about this posting, this thread most likely would have died after a few comments. you kept it alive for more to see and started the very discussion you claimed it wouldn't make.

backseatLover12

I'm sorry you're feel that way. I posted before asking BB what discussion and/or debate he would like to start.

And you are correct about the irony…Post something shocking enough, no one's going to ignore it.