I will never understand the logic of why it's ok to sell a poster for $300 that I paid $35 for last year but it's bad to sell a poster I bought last week for the same deal. As long as someone isn't hoarding multiple posters they should be free to keep, sell, frame, or burn the one poster they purchased as they see fit.
There must be some magical time period that only one person knows when an item ceases to being subject to flipping rules.
Yes this shit gets crazy just few days after things are sold out. Too much hype IMO.
BTW... Anyone want to trade their Colombia Blue Vs for my Moline poster??? I will throw in Denver, Milwaukee, and St. Paul posters too. )
The demand for this poster is crazy, but this is the best deal for someone yet, after pat gets his blue vs, I have a moline poster I'd trade for the same, thanks!
Bad thing is no matter how mad u get or complain, people will continue to buy pj merch and turnaround as soon as they get it and try to trade it for anything of value from an "older" item.....people offering crazy trades for this or that isn't gonna stop any time soon that I see!
Yes this shit gets crazy just few days after things are sold out. Too much hype IMO.
BTW... Anyone want to trade their Colombia Blue Vs for my Moline poster??? I will throw in Denver, Milwaukee, and St. Paul posters too. )
The demand for this poster is crazy, but this is the best deal for someone yet, after pat gets his blue vs, I have a moline poster I'd trade for the
People will continue to buy pj merch and turnaround as soon as they get it and try to trade it for anything of value from an "older" item.....people offering crazy trades for this or that isn't gonna stop any time soon that I see! And it really sucks for the people who attended which ever show and get shutout at the venue, ten club sale and artist proof sale. Wish ten club would do a concert /merch package so people could get the merch they want from the shows they attend without having to stand in line at a show or drag merch around the show the rest of the night, be able to buy shirts, posters, stickers, pins and anything else thru ten club and shipped to their door. Sell the rest on ten club on random drops.
Someone is selling the two Surfboard crosses for $225, THAT'S $225!!!
I like the stickers... BUT I've never had to pay a dime over face-value for any of the ones I have!! Through trading withMANY GREAT people here on the boards, I've been able to complete a pretty decent collection of the tour stickers! I can't imagine paying $225 for a STICKER...) that's just way too much for me!!
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Someone is selling the two Surfboard crosses for $225, THAT'S $225!!!
are you serious?? I just sold one like a month ago for like 6$. I have another red surfboard cross with yellow flashes behind it. I could let it go for a mere 150$ Who wants it!
Wouldn't it be funny if the world ended in 2010, with lots of fire?
So regardless of current value....trading of posters that originally cost $35 each is frowned upon? Or trade of a $35 poster for a $40 vinyl would also be considered flipping? I don't think I follow...
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So regardless of current value....trading of posters that originally cost $35 each is frowned upon? Or trade of a $35 poster for a $40 vinyl would also be considered flipping? I don't think I follow...
The trading rules here are extremely complex and vary widely depending on who you ask.
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Its the quick turnaround that gets people in a tizzy. You have a ton of people trying for, say Moline, many who were at the show and/or legitimately wanted a print were trying and failed to procure one.
Then within the hour, a week, etc you see them pop up here for trades of valuable older items.
People believe there is some 'code' where people shouldn't acquire these things, gum up the works for people who really want the stuff, only to immediately parlay it into cash rewards or valuable items. It is kind of predatory. There should at least be a grace period of decency people could wait to flip. Don't know what that is. Most of the stuff is labelled in the store as "Not For Resale", but it doesnt seem to be enforced.
I want to say that I'm just playing devil's advocate here and certainly am not looking to be rude or disrespectful. So please don't take anything to heart or personally. I just don't understand all these unwritten "rules" of trading that are self imposed & unenforceable and people upset, even angry about it. I don't understand why people get stressed about a situation that is out of our control. I know, I know, someone will say we as fans can control the market by not buying merchandise but in what world will that be realistic?
See above... I suggested 3 weeks grace period...give or take a week.
I've had my Moline since October 17th, 2014. Do I qualify?.....now I'm just being a smart ass.
I missed out on something, someone else missed out on something and we may agree on a trade. Who cares? I'm certainly not gonna ask the person to pinky swear they won't flip the poster. That's absurd.
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I want to say that I'm just playing devil's advocate here and certainly am not looking to be rude or disrespectful. So please don't take anything to heart or personally. I just don't understand all these unwritten "rules" of trading that are self imposed & unenforceable and people upset, even angry about it. I don't understand why people get stressed about a situation that is out of our control. I know, I know, someone will say we as fans can control the market by not buying merchandise but in what world will that be realistic?
See above... I suggested 3 weeks grace period...give or take a week.
I've had my Moline since October 17th, 2014. Do I qualify?.....now I'm just being a smart ass.
I missed out on something, someone else missed out on something and we may agree on a trade. Who cares? I'm certainly not gonna ask the person to pinky swear they won't flip the poster. That's absurd.
So was I. Do 2 smart asses cancel each other out and make 1 dumb ass?? Hope not. )
I want to say that I'm just playing devil's advocate here and certainly am not looking to be rude or disrespectful. So please don't take anything to heart or personally. I just don't understand all these unwritten "rules" of trading that are self imposed & unenforceable and people upset, even angry about it. I don't understand why people get stressed about a situation that is out of our control. I know, I know, someone will say we as fans can control the market by not buying merchandise but in what world will that be realistic?
it is actually a written rule on the sale of the items here. When purchasing it says "Not For Resale". People essentially flood the market immediately with these things in no time for much richer items or cash. 10c just doesnt enforce it. It happens. People give the seller some shit, which should be expected (and IMO does keep the behavior from being a complete Wild West epidemic, so I think the situation is somewhat in our control), they often find a taker or just take it to "The Bay" and thats it.
At least some people wait a little while, then come out with a story that they are selling it for their brother, suddenly have 2 of them, or need the money for bills. Just a little tact.
I would like 10c to ratchet up and define the rules or completely do away with them. They seem to be kind of a fence sitter on these subjects and it creates a grey area. On some level the company probably does appreciate the microeconomy created by this and all the speculation.
On all fronts, this is a complete epidemic, and something that is making it near impossible for people to even get the merch for shows they attend. People buying dozens of posters at the stand, 100 stickers.
If its Wild West, call it Wild West and we all can do that. I miss out on Moline, maybe I can snipe a Detroit "Variant" or something like that in which I would never ever want or go for to attempt to trade for a Moline down the road?
*I dont want/need a Moline, just using recent examples.
And no, IMO 3 weeks isn't enough time. It wont happen, but if I were making the rules, I feel that the spirit of the community here, "possession" should be established... and nothing could be sold or traded within 6 Months of the on sale date.
"... and nothing could be sold or traded within 6 Months of the on sale date."
In theory I agree, but the reality is that the market would just move elsewhere and traffic on the board would suffer. They probably don't want that to happen either.
PP193448...it's like the NFL, two penalties cancel the play entirely as if it didn't happen
A very limited amount of items in the shop are designated as "not for resale". Take the recent coffee mugs...they didn't have a "not for resale" designation and people (for whatever reason) are selling them off. Just about every item in the shop does not have that designation.
No matter what, you'll have those who don't have any sense and would do as they will with their purchase. Doesn't mean we give up entirely. There are still honest people here. I've done mostly cash purchases from other members and yes, I pay over the amount it originally sold for. Hey, I'm the one who's assed out because I missed the original sale. You won't hear me complain because that's just the way it goes. Can't win them all the time.
Que sera, sera :-??
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But why stop with a minimum hold time? Why not demand that people who want to frame the poster get first dibs over people that just want to throw it in a flat file? Of course my suggestion is ridiculous but my point is that everyone's idea of what's fair is different. You can't regulate everything in life.
I have a Moline and I collect posters. I may or may not trade it for another poster for my collection. I feel that way about every poster I buy. Including ones i buy at a show i attend. These things sell out so fast there's really no time to think it over or else you risk missing out. And sometimes i end up with a poster I'm not happy with (philly and baltimore from last year come to mind) and i end up trading them for something else I prefer. I never buy more than one poster. That's shady in my opinion and screws other fans.
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I hate how people buy posters only so they can use them as trade bait and people who went to the show miss out. I realy liked the lincoln poster from this tour but as I live in Australia and wasnt at the show gave it 24 hours before I purchased it from the store so people who went to the show could have first crack. I could only imagine if moline had been my first show and I had to now pay $300 for the poster cause others bought it with the sole intention of using it to trade for other items or worse sell.
I hate how people buy posters only so they can use them as trade bait and people who went to the show miss out. I realy liked the lincoln poster from this tour but as I live in Australia and wasnt at the show gave it 24 hours before I purchased it from the store so people who went to the show could have first crack. I could only imagine if moline had been my first show and I had to now pay $300 for the poster cause others bought it with the sole intention of using it to trade for other items or worse sell.
The beauty of this forum is that in most cases you wouldn't have to pay $300 like you do on ebay. You could trade a poster you paid $35 for to get that $35 poster that you wanted instead.
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I get what people are saying about the perception of buying an item and then immediately trading it. It can rub people the wrong way.
But I also find it funny that someone can post a crackerjack for sale for $250 and there will be multiple comments from people saying how it's a great deal. But five minutes later someone posts that they want to trade a moline for a crackerjack and everyone loses their mind.
Makes no sense to me.
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I get what people are saying about the perception of buying an item and then immediately trading it. It can rub people the wrong way.
But I also find it funny that someone can post a crackerjack for sale for $250 and there will be multiple comments from people saying how it's a great deal. But five minutes later someone posts that they want to trade a moline for a crackerjack and everyone loses their mind.
Makes no sense to me.
That is why I say all bets should be off at this point. Anything goes with no ridicule.
Time frames and prices don't really matter when people make judgement around here. What matters is who you are. I've seen identical listings 2 days apart, $10 apart on a higher value item - one guy got trashed and called a flipper, the other got the ol' fashioned ++Good member kudos on a great price....
What we should focus on is minding our own business, letting people buy/sell/trade what they want. We are all adults capable of making decisions on our own, that includes over paying for goods and buying products that were just bought for less from the Tenclub.
I get what people are saying about the perception of buying an item and then immediately trading it. It can rub people the wrong way.
But I also find it funny that someone can post a crackerjack for sale for $250 and there will be multiple comments from people saying how it's a great deal. But five minutes later someone posts that they want to trade a moline for a crackerjack and everyone loses their mind.
Makes no sense to me.
That is why I say all bets should be off at this point. Anything goes with no ridicule.
No auctions or ebay links is still a good rule though.
I hate how people buy posters only so they can use them as trade bait and people who went to the show miss out. I realy liked the lincoln poster from this tour but as I live in Australia and wasnt at the show gave it 24 hours before I purchased it from the store so people who went to the show could have first crack. I could only imagine if moline had been my first show and I had to now pay $300 for the poster cause others bought it with the sole intention of using it to trade for other items or worse sell.
We are not going to be able to solve that problem here. The market for Pearl Jam's merchandise is very large, Lost Dogs is just a small percentage of the activity. What we can do here though, is keep the goods in the community. By being fussy about prices and flippers we encourage the goods to leave our circle to people that will pay the market's value on the product.
I hate how people buy posters only so they can use them as trade bait and people who went to the show miss out. I realy liked the lincoln poster from this tour but as I live in Australia and wasnt at the show gave it 24 hours before I purchased it from the store so people who went to the show could have first crack. I could only imagine if moline had been my first show and I had to now pay $300 for the poster cause others bought it with the sole intention of using it to trade for other items or worse sell.
We are not going to be able to solve that problem here. The market for Pearl Jam's merchandise is very large, Lost Dogs is just a small percentage of the activity. What we can do here though, is keep the goods in the community. By being fussy about prices and flippers we encourage the goods to leave our circle to people that will pay the market's value on the product.
What I would see as a solution would require a huge effort so it's likely not going to happen.
I would keep track of the items sold by numbering them x/xxx and keep track of who has which number. Most items sold are "members only" so when something is dropped on Ebay, they could warn, limitate or restrict members from buying to flip.
Same with artists, they know who has the numbered editions and could cancel the orders of identified flippers that buy an A/P and drop it on Ebay with high profit.
The A/P variants prices have gone up because of those flipping and making a fortune. If I were Emek, Ames or anyone else, I would join that alliance
But that's just my opinion and again, never likely to happen.
Flipping is the way of the world. Like someone posted somewhere in the forum about flipping... Stocks... Buy low and sell high... In essence you flip for profit. Everything from muscle and antique cars to houses. Lots of stuff bought and sold to make profit. Get over it. Be smart and do research to not get burnt over paying. Poor Johnny didn't get the toy he wanted for Christmas... Poor Lucy didn't get asked to prom... Poor Jeff didn't get a Moline poster even though he went to the show... How about some perspective. It's a fucking poster. Glad I got some I did, but didn't seem to cry about not getting others. Don't get me started on the sticker babies...
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Bad thing is no matter how mad u get or complain, people will continue to buy pj merch and turnaround as soon as they get it and try to trade it for anything of value from an "older" item.....people offering crazy trades for this or that isn't gonna stop any time soon that I see!
Someone is selling the two Surfboard crosses for $225, THAT'S $225!!!
BUT I've never had to pay a dime over face-value for any of the ones I have!!
Through trading with MANY GREAT people here on the boards,
I've been able to complete a pretty decent collection of the tour stickers!
I can't imagine paying $225 for a STICKER...
that's just way too much for me!!
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'00: Columbus: Polaris
'03: Columbus: Germain
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'11: East Troy: Alpine Valley - PJ20 1 & 2 + EV Detroit
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'13: Chicago / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / Seattle
'14: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Memphis / Detroit / Moline
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'18: London 1 & 2 / Seattle 1 & 2 / Missoula / Wrigley 1
'22: Nashville / St. Louis
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Then within the hour, a week, etc you see them pop up here for trades of valuable older items.
People believe there is some 'code' where people shouldn't acquire these things, gum up the works for people who really want the stuff, only to immediately parlay it into cash rewards or valuable items. It is kind of predatory. There should at least be a grace period of decency people could wait to flip. Don't know what that is.
Most of the stuff is labelled in the store as "Not For Resale", but it doesnt seem to be enforced.
But it happens.
I suggested 3 weeks grace period...give or take a week.
I missed out on something, someone else missed out on something and we may agree on a trade. Who cares? I'm certainly not gonna ask the person to pinky swear they won't flip the poster. That's absurd.
At least some people wait a little while, then come out with a story that they are selling it for their brother, suddenly have 2 of them, or need the money for bills. Just a little tact.
I would like 10c to ratchet up and define the rules or completely do away with them. They seem to be kind of a fence sitter on these subjects and it creates a grey area. On some level the company probably does appreciate the microeconomy created by this and all the speculation.
On all fronts, this is a complete epidemic, and something that is making it near impossible for people to even get the merch for shows they attend. People buying dozens of posters at the stand, 100 stickers.
If its Wild West, call it Wild West and we all can do that. I miss out on Moline, maybe I can snipe a Detroit "Variant" or something like that in which I would never ever want or go for to attempt to trade for a Moline down the road?
*I dont want/need a Moline, just using recent examples.
And no, IMO 3 weeks isn't enough time. It wont happen, but if I were making the rules, I feel that the spirit of the community here, "possession" should be established... and nothing could be sold or traded within 6 Months of the on sale date.
In theory I agree, but the reality is that the market would just move elsewhere and traffic on the board would suffer. They probably don't want that to happen either.
A very limited amount of items in the shop are designated as "not for resale". Take the recent coffee mugs...they didn't have a "not for resale" designation and people (for whatever reason) are selling them off. Just about every item in the shop does not have that designation.
No matter what, you'll have those who don't have any sense and would do as they will with their purchase. Doesn't mean we give up entirely. There are still honest people here. I've done mostly cash purchases from other members and yes, I pay over the amount it originally sold for. Hey, I'm the one who's assed out because I missed the original sale. You won't hear me complain because that's just the way it goes. Can't win them all the time.
Que sera, sera :-??
I have a Moline and I collect posters. I may or may not trade it for another poster for my collection. I feel that way about every poster I buy. Including ones i buy at a show i attend. These things sell out so fast there's really no time to think it over or else you risk missing out. And sometimes i end up with a poster I'm not happy with (philly and baltimore from last year come to mind) and i end up trading them for something else I prefer. I never buy more than one poster. That's shady in my opinion and screws other fans.
But I also find it funny that someone can post a crackerjack for sale for $250 and there will be multiple comments from people saying how it's a great deal. But five minutes later someone posts that they want to trade a moline for a crackerjack and everyone loses their mind.
Makes no sense to me.
What we should focus on is minding our own business, letting people buy/sell/trade what they want. We are all adults capable of making decisions on our own, that includes over paying for goods and buying products that were just bought for less from the Tenclub.
I would keep track of the items sold by numbering them x/xxx and keep track of who has which number. Most items sold are "members only" so when something is dropped on Ebay, they could warn, limitate or restrict members from buying to flip.
Same with artists, they know who has the numbered editions and could cancel the orders of identified flippers that buy an A/P and drop it on Ebay with high profit.
The A/P variants prices have gone up because of those flipping and making a fortune. If I were Emek, Ames or anyone else, I would join that alliance
But that's just my opinion and again, never likely to happen.
Stocks... Buy low and sell high... In essence you flip for profit. Everything from muscle and antique cars to houses. Lots of stuff bought and sold to make profit. Get over it. Be smart and do research to not get burnt over paying. Poor Johnny didn't get the toy he wanted for Christmas... Poor Lucy didn't get asked to prom... Poor Jeff didn't get a Moline poster even though he went to the show... How about some perspective. It's a fucking poster. Glad I got some I did, but didn't seem to cry about not getting others. Don't get me started on the sticker babies...
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