Nice pieces being unloaded on Ebay

VedderMTL

bootlegger10 said:

Is it safe to say there are no more rules regarding Lost Dogs? I say remove the flipping rules and remove the Ebay link bans. They aren't being followed anymore anyway.

I was not even aware that we couldn't talk about Ebay here.

Haven't posted a link either

bootlegger10

No, I'm seriously saying we shouldn't have those rules anymore. I'm thinking about it practically. Just about every item ever sold by Pearl Jam has been listed here on Lost Dogs for more than the original cost with no issue (except for tickets). Posters sold in the afternoon are listed for trade in the evening. I think the time has come to change the rules to no rules (except for concert tickets sold/traded for over face).

I say instead of dancing around the issue and making up excuses for selling more than cost, we just let it go and from here on out post what we want without fear of being ridiculed as a flipper or having the thread taken over.

I'm not talking against anyone in this thread, but what made me think of this is that this thread had people vouching for Ebayers selling items for greater than cost and there is no pushback, yet a lot of people post items on here and get ridiculed for flipping and have their threads taken over (I will admit I've made my share of accusations over the years). It seems like a double standard and I think we should get rid of all the rules and let people post whatever item for whatever price and let the free market decide.

I think people like the idea of this place being a place where you can come and get fair trades and fair prices, but that ship sailed a long time ago. Those are still out there but how many threads for trading Moline posters are on Lost Dogs right now? I don't see any trades with people looking for Cinci 2014 or OKC 2013, they are looking for the $300 Cracker Jack or $400 Donkey Kong poster in return for the poster they just bought for $35 + shipping from the 10C.

tempo_n_groove

bootlegger10 said:

No, I'm seriously saying we shouldn't have those rules anymore. I'm thinking about it practically. Just about every item ever sold by Pearl Jam has been listed here on Lost Dogs for more than the original cost with no issue (except for tickets). Posters sold in the afternoon are listed for trade in the evening. I think the time has come to change the rules to no rules (except for concert tickets sold/traded for over face).

I say instead of dancing around the issue and making up excuses for selling more than cost, we just let it go and from here on out post what we want without fear of being ridiculed as a flipper or having the thread taken over.

I'm not talking against anyone in this thread, but what made me think of this is that this thread had people vouching for Ebayers selling items for greater than cost and there is no pushback, yet a lot of people post items on here and get ridiculed for flipping and have their threads taken over (I will admit I've made my share of accusations over the years). It seems like a double standard and I think we should get rid of all the rules and let people post whatever item for whatever price and let the free market decide.

Good points. I think everyone on here should call out a person who is charging too much though. It's awesome when people do that. Take it to FB or eBay.

Rules should be enforced by us.

VedderMTL

tempo_n_groove said:

bootlegger10 said:

No, I'm seriously saying we shouldn't have those rules anymore. I'm thinking about it practically. Just about every item ever sold by Pearl Jam has been listed here on Lost Dogs for more than the original cost with no issue (except for tickets). Posters sold in the afternoon are listed for trade in the evening. I think the time has come to change the rules to no rules (except for concert tickets sold/traded for over face).

I say instead of dancing around the issue and making up excuses for selling more than cost, we just let it go and from here on out post what we want without fear of being ridiculed as a flipper or having the thread taken over.

I'm not talking against anyone in this thread, but what made me think of this is that this thread had people vouching for Ebayers selling items for greater than cost and there is no pushback, yet a lot of people post items on here and get ridiculed for flipping and have their threads taken over (I will admit I've made my share of accusations over the years). It seems like a double standard and I think we should get rid of all the rules and let people post whatever item for whatever price and let the free market decide.

Good points. I think everyone on here should call out a person who is charging too much though. It's awesome when people do that. Take it to FB or eBay.

Rules should be enforced by us.

tempo_n_groove said:

bootlegger10 said:

No, I'm seriously saying we shouldn't have those rules anymore. I'm thinking about it practically. Just about every item ever sold by Pearl Jam has been listed here on Lost Dogs for more than the original cost with no issue (except for tickets). Posters sold in the afternoon are listed for trade in the evening. I think the time has come to change the rules to no rules (except for concert tickets sold/traded for over face).

I say instead of dancing around the issue and making up excuses for selling more than cost, we just let it go and from here on out post what we want without fear of being ridiculed as a flipper or having the thread taken over.

I'm not talking against anyone in this thread, but what made me think of this is that this thread had people vouching for Ebayers selling items for greater than cost and there is no pushback, yet a lot of people post items on here and get ridiculed for flipping and have their threads taken over (I will admit I've made my share of accusations over the years). It seems like a double standard and I think we should get rid of all the rules and let people post whatever item for whatever price and let the free market decide.

Good points. I think everyone on here should call out a person who is charging too much though. It's awesome when people do that. Take it to FB or eBay.

Rules should be enforced by us.

Even if we call people out, there are still people willing to pay those prices. It id the law of demand. It wouldn't change a dime IMO.

on2legs

I will never understand the logic of why it's ok to sell a poster for $300 that I paid $35 for last year but it's bad to sell a poster I bought last week for the same deal. As long as someone isn't hoarding multiple posters they should be free to keep, sell, frame, or burn the one poster they purchased as they see fit.

PP193448

Yes this shit gets crazy just few days after things are sold out. Too much hype IMO.

BTW... Anyone want to trade their Colombia Blue Vs for my Moline poster??? I will throw in Denver, Milwaukee, and St. Paul posters too. )

doctorvik

sorry I didnt know couldnt post ebay links -- my bad -- thought someone had asked for it ...

bootlegger10

doctorvik said:

sorry I didnt know couldnt post ebay links -- my bad -- thought someone had asked for it ...

Posting that there are Ebay sales and the seller's name is about as close to posting a link anyway. No worries.

tempo_n_groove

VedderMTL said:

tempo_n_groove said:

bootlegger10 said:

No, I'm seriously saying we shouldn't have those rules anymore. I'm thinking about it practically. Just about every item ever sold by Pearl Jam has been listed here on Lost Dogs for more than the original cost with no issue (except for tickets). Posters sold in the afternoon are listed for trade in the evening. I think the time has come to change the rules to no rules (except for concert tickets sold/traded for over face).

I say instead of dancing around the issue and making up excuses for selling more than cost, we just let it go and from here on out post what we want without fear of being ridiculed as a flipper or having the thread taken over.

I'm not talking against anyone in this thread, but what made me think of this is that this thread had people vouching for Ebayers selling items for greater than cost and there is no pushback, yet a lot of people post items on here and get ridiculed for flipping and have their threads taken over (I will admit I've made my share of accusations over the years). It seems like a double standard and I think we should get rid of all the rules and let people post whatever item for whatever price and let the free market decide.

Good points. I think everyone on here should call out a person who is charging too much though. It's awesome when people do that. Take it to FB or eBay.

Rules should be enforced by us.

tempo_n_groove said:

bootlegger10 said:

No, I'm seriously saying we shouldn't have those rules anymore. I'm thinking about it practically. Just about every item ever sold by Pearl Jam has been listed here on Lost Dogs for more than the original cost with no issue (except for tickets). Posters sold in the afternoon are listed for trade in the evening. I think the time has come to change the rules to no rules (except for concert tickets sold/traded for over face).

I say instead of dancing around the issue and making up excuses for selling more than cost, we just let it go and from here on out post what we want without fear of being ridiculed as a flipper or having the thread taken over.

I'm not talking against anyone in this thread, but what made me think of this is that this thread had people vouching for Ebayers selling items for greater than cost and there is no pushback, yet a lot of people post items on here and get ridiculed for flipping and have their threads taken over (I will admit I've made my share of accusations over the years). It seems like a double standard and I think we should get rid of all the rules and let people post whatever item for whatever price and let the free market decide.

Good points. I think everyone on here should call out a person who is charging too much though. It's awesome when people do that. Take it to FB or eBay.

Rules should be enforced by us.

Even if we call people out, there are still people willing to pay those prices. It id the law of demand. It wouldn't change a dime IMO.

True. 100% true.

bootlegger10

on2legs said:

I will never understand the logic of why it's ok to sell a poster for $300 that I paid $35 for last year but it's bad to sell a poster I bought last week for the same deal. As long as someone isn't hoarding multiple posters they should be free to keep, sell, frame, or burn the one poster they purchased as they see fit.

There must be some magical time period that only one person knows when an item ceases to being subject to flipping rules.

PP193448

bootlegger10 said:

on2legs said:

I will never understand the logic of why it's ok to sell a poster for $300 that I paid $35 for last year but it's bad to sell a poster I bought last week for the same deal. As long as someone isn't hoarding multiple posters they should be free to keep, sell, frame, or burn the one poster they purchased as they see fit.

There must be some magical time period that only one person knows when an item ceases to being subject to flipping rules.

3 weeks... Give or take a week.

juddboz80

PP193448 said:

Yes this shit gets crazy just few days after things are sold out. Too much hype IMO.

BTW... Anyone want to trade their Colombia Blue Vs for my Moline poster??? I will throw in Denver, Milwaukee, and St. Paul posters too. )

The demand for this poster is crazy, but this is the best deal for someone yet, after pat gets his blue vs, I have a moline poster I'd trade for the same, thanks!

Bad thing is no matter how mad u get or complain, people will continue to buy pj merch and turnaround as soon as they get it and try to trade it for anything of value from an "older" item.....people offering crazy trades for this or that isn't gonna stop any time soon that I see!

juddboz80

juddboz80 said:

PP193448 said:

Yes this shit gets crazy just few days after things are sold out. Too much hype IMO.

BTW... Anyone want to trade their Colombia Blue Vs for my Moline poster??? I will throw in Denver, Milwaukee, and St. Paul posters too. )

The demand for this poster is crazy, but this is the best deal for someone yet, after pat gets his blue vs, I have a moline poster I'd trade for the

People will continue to buy pj merch and turnaround as soon as they get it and try to trade it for anything of value from an "older" item.....people offering crazy trades for this or that isn't gonna stop any time soon that I see! And it really sucks for the people who attended which ever show and get shutout at the venue, ten club sale and artist proof sale. Wish ten club would do a concert /merch package so people could get the merch they want from the shows they attend without having to stand in line at a show or drag merch around the show the rest of the night, be able to buy shirts, posters, stickers, pins and anything else thru ten club and shipped to their door. Sell the rest on ten club on random drops.

tempo_n_groove

I think the demand for stickers is NUTS now!

Someone is selling the two Surfboard crosses for $225, THAT'S $225!!!

derbydave

tempo_n_groove said:

I think the demand for stickers is NUTS now!

Someone is selling the two Surfboard crosses for $225, THAT'S $225!!!

I like the stickers...
BUT I've never had to pay a dime over face-value for any of the ones I have!!
Through trading with MANY GREAT people here on the boards,
I've been able to complete a pretty decent collection of the tour stickers!
I can't imagine paying $225 for a STICKER... )
that's just way too much for me!!

a5pj

tempo_n_groove said:

I think the demand for stickers is NUTS now!

Someone is selling the two Surfboard crosses for $225, THAT'S $225!!!

are you serious?? I just sold one like a month ago for like 6$. I have another red surfboard cross with yellow flashes behind it. I could let it go for a mere 150$ Who wants it!

manitouman

So regardless of current value....trading of posters that originally cost $35 each is frowned upon? Or trade of a $35 poster for a $40 vinyl would also be considered flipping? I don't think I follow...

on2legs

manitouman said:

So regardless of current value....trading of posters that originally cost $35 each is frowned upon? Or trade of a $35 poster for a $40 vinyl would also be considered flipping? I don't think I follow...

The trading rules here are extremely complex and vary widely depending on who you ask.

MayDay10

Its the quick turnaround that gets people in a tizzy. You have a ton of people trying for, say Moline, many who were at the show and/or legitimately wanted a print were trying and failed to procure one.

Then within the hour, a week, etc you see them pop up here for trades of valuable older items.

People believe there is some 'code' where people shouldn't acquire these things, gum up the works for people who really want the stuff, only to immediately parlay it into cash rewards or valuable items. It is kind of predatory. There should at least be a grace period of decency people could wait to flip. Don't know what that is.
Most of the stuff is labelled in the store as "Not For Resale", but it doesnt seem to be enforced.

But it happens.

PP193448

See above...
I suggested 3 weeks grace period...give or take a week.