The Idiot Thread

oftenreading

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

In the DP thread... I detailed the case of David Shearing who killed a family of six that was camping at Wells Gray Park (near my city). He kept captive the two really young daughters for a few days while he did what he did with them before finishing them off.

This foul individual should have been executed for his obscenity, but this has already been debated in the DP thread- some feel that this sick, pathetic loser deserves life. Both sides to this debate lose because it's not entirely inconceivable that Canada's tissue paper soft penal system will open the doors and...

... allow Shearing to start a new life with...

Idiot Exhibit #2: his wife (the name has been withheld from the public).

It's true. Some idiot married this grotesque human being.

* It wasn't for his looks (he's no Robert Redford to put it nicely) and it wasn't for his intelligence (he's no Einstein either). I'm thinking it's just sheer idiocy of the highest order that led some troll to think she wanted to marry this guy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wells_Gray_Provincial_Park_Family_Murders

Yes, Canada's incompetent police officers investigated, caught, and prosecuted this guy, our soft-on-crime judiciary convicted and sentenced him, and our tissue paper penal system has kept him in jail for more then 30 years. Surely an example of a miscarriage of justice.

Last-12-Exit

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

On a lighter note... here's a dual-idiot sighting:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VISEvr3c0wg

The only thing that would have made that video better is if the raiders didn't get the time out, the chiefs had the free play and launched one to the end zone for the win. Boneheads!

Thirty Bills Unpaid

oftenreading said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

In the DP thread... I detailed the case of David Shearing who killed a family of six that was camping at Wells Gray Park (near my city). He kept captive the two really young daughters for a few days while he did what he did with them before finishing them off.

This foul individual should have been executed for his obscenity, but this has already been debated in the DP thread- some feel that this sick, pathetic loser deserves life. Both sides to this debate lose because it's not entirely inconceivable that Canada's tissue paper soft penal system will open the doors and...

... allow Shearing to start a new life with...

Idiot Exhibit #2: his wife (the name has been withheld from the public).

It's true. Some idiot married this grotesque human being.

* It wasn't for his looks (he's no Robert Redford to put it nicely) and it wasn't for his intelligence (he's no Einstein either). I'm thinking it's just sheer idiocy of the highest order that led some troll to think she wanted to marry this guy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wells_Gray_Provincial_Park_Family_Murders

Yes, Canada's incompetent police officers investigated, caught, and prosecuted this guy, our soft-on-crime judiciary convicted and sentenced him, and our tissue paper penal system has kept him in jail for more then 30 years. Surely an example of a miscarriage of justice.

He's up for parole every two years with he and his advocates encouraging it. He's found religion and a wife- don't be surprised when he's released.

The remaining family members are forced to show up with their petitions and voice their displeasure- forced to relive the event.

Justice would have been a rope. Not conjugal visits, warm meals, internet access, clean clothes, and hope.

I heard your perspective. You've heard mine. We'll leave it at that.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

Last-12-Exit said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

On a lighter note... here's a dual-idiot sighting:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VISEvr3c0wg

The only thing that would have made that video better is if the raiders didn't get the time out, the chiefs had the free play and launched one to the end zone for the win. Boneheads!

I was hoping so badly for this when it happened!

Thirty Bills Unpaid

oftenreading said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

In the DP thread... I detailed the case of David Shearing who killed a family of six that was camping at Wells Gray Park (near my city). He kept captive the two really young daughters for a few days while he did what he did with them before finishing them off.

This foul individual should have been executed for his obscenity, but this has already been debated in the DP thread- some feel that this sick, pathetic loser deserves life. Both sides to this debate lose because it's not entirely inconceivable that Canada's tissue paper soft penal system will open the doors and...

... allow Shearing to start a new life with...

Idiot Exhibit #2: his wife (the name has been withheld from the public).

It's true. Some idiot married this grotesque human being.

* It wasn't for his looks (he's no Robert Redford to put it nicely) and it wasn't for his intelligence (he's no Einstein either). I'm thinking it's just sheer idiocy of the highest order that led some troll to think she wanted to marry this guy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wells_Gray_Provincial_Park_Family_Murders

Yes, Canada's incompetent police officers investigated, caught, and prosecuted this guy, our soft-on-crime judiciary convicted and sentenced him, and our tissue paper penal system has kept him in jail for more then 30 years. Surely an example of a miscarriage of justice.

You never responded to my initial response to this rather cheeky post... so here's another very recent example of Canada's tissue soft stance on crime and punishment:

An idiot shot and critically wounded a cop in our city three nights ago. The suspect Knutson has an extensive criminal past, including a lifetime firearms ban and a second-degree murder charge. The second-degree murder charge was in 2002, in connection to the death of 21-year-old Christopher Lesniak in Coquitlam.

However, the charge was later downgraded to manslaughter after Knutson pleaded guilty to criminal negligence causing death.

In 2009, he was convicted of three firearms charges after being found by Surrey RCMP wearing body armour and carrying a number of restricted firearms and marijuana.

So... the guy murders someone and serves what appears to be a whopping 5-7 years... has various other criminal convictions to his record... gets arrested for carrying restricted firearms, body armour and pot after his massive sentence... and... what happened here? Did they make him say sorry? Five years after this incident... he shoots a cop.

If people want to be criminals, but don't really wish to be disciplined for being criminals... they should come to Canada. We think criminals rock! Well... let me rephrase: our policy makers think criminals rock.

http://globalnews.ca/news/1709120/suspect-in-shooting-of-kamloops-rcmp-officer-identified/

JC29856

idiot local news outlets regurgitating cop stories without fact checking

http://www.cjr.org/united_states_project/westword_drug_bust_informant_expose_trinidad_colorado.php

Last week, in a fantastic cover story for the Denver-based alt-weekly Westword, reporter Alan Prendergast chronicled some police work in a small southern Colorado town that was so magnificently incompetent, so recklessly negligent, it makes the Keystone Cops look like Seal Team Six.
But, as Prendergast reports, the case against many of these alleged bad apples soon began to fall apart. In fact, he writes, “two of the accused had the perfect alibi: They were in jail at the time they were supposedly selling drugs on the streets of Trinidad to the police’s informant.”

Thirty Bills Unpaid

... it makes the Keystone Cops look like Seal Team Six.

Absolutely wonderful line!

chadwick

great thread to read through this fine morning. thanks

chadwick

thirty bills,
canada sure is a beautiful place though. (well, i only been to british columbia & the yukon)

Jason P

Mark Walhberg should be on the list.

In 1988 he beat two Asian elderly men with a stick while yelling racial slurs at them. One lost eyesight in an eye and he did 45 days in the pokey. That's idiot point #1.

Today he asks for a formal pardon of an incident that maybe 1% of the population was aware of. Now anyone who surfs the internet now knows of what he has done. Why would he bring this back into the public spotlight? That's idiot point #2.

chadwick

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

... it makes the Keystone Cops look like Seal Team Six.

Absolutely wonderful line!

seal team six - the elite of the elite. they aren't just badasses in a physical sense, they are smart as fuck, comparable to harvard graduates but greater. something like the complete opposite of this thread. knowing everything about nuclear engineering & fluently speaking several languages all while doing 500 push ups, swimming 8 miles in 50 degree water & having a ball of a time running through the dark desert eating bad guys

Thirty Bills Unpaid

Chadwick!

Good to hear from you, man. You've been pretty quiet lately.

hedonist

Hopefully he's been (up to no?) good.

A recent idiot encounter - waiting for the light to turn green so I can cross the intersection. OK, light's green, I do a quick lookaround as usual, all good, let's go.

Chick in a large SUV in the left-turn lane next to me decides she must abandon that endeavor and get into my lane.

No signal, no looking. All about her, guess she fucked up her navigation at everyone else's expense. "I'm getting in!"

I laid on the horn, swerved and went on my way with her behind me after having cut off someone else.

In my RVM, I see her head down and the beautiful glow of a cell phone.

Gah!

PJfanwillneverleave1

Does this count?


Any parent/person who smokes in the car with a child is an idiot.

hedonist

I'll raise you on that one (unfortunately).

PJfanwillneverleave1

hedonist said:

I'll raise you on that one (unfortunately).

I assumed that everyone needn't be reminded what an idiot they are if they smoke while pregnant.

lukin2006

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

In the DP thread... I detailed the case of David Shearing who killed a family of six that was camping at Wells Gray Park (near my city). He kept captive the two really young daughters for a few days while he did what he did with them before finishing them off.

This foul individual should have been executed for his obscenity, but this has already been debated in the DP thread- some feel that this sick, pathetic loser deserves life. Both sides to this debate lose because it's not entirely inconceivable that Canada's tissue paper soft penal system will open the doors and...

... allow Shearing to start a new life with...

Idiot Exhibit #2: his wife (the name has been withheld from the public).

It's true. Some idiot married this grotesque human being.

* It wasn't for his looks (he's no Robert Redford to put it nicely) and it wasn't for his intelligence (he's no Einstein either). I'm thinking it's just sheer idiocy of the highest order that led some troll to think she wanted to marry this guy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wells_Gray_Provincial_Park_Family_Murders

Thanks for sharing ... Never read about these crimes. The sad part of our justice is that he had a parole hearing already ... wouldn't surprise me that he gets out some day.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

hedonist said:

I'll raise you on that one (unfortunately).

As she smokes her cancer stick... she's worried about the effect the sound of jackhammers will have on her unborn child.

A definite qualifier for the Idiot Thread.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

lukin2006 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

In the DP thread... I detailed the case of David Shearing who killed a family of six that was camping at Wells Gray Park (near my city). He kept captive the two really young daughters for a few days while he did what he did with them before finishing them off.

This foul individual should have been executed for his obscenity, but this has already been debated in the DP thread- some feel that this sick, pathetic loser deserves life. Both sides to this debate lose because it's not entirely inconceivable that Canada's tissue paper soft penal system will open the doors and...

... allow Shearing to start a new life with...

Idiot Exhibit #2: his wife (the name has been withheld from the public).

It's true. Some idiot married this grotesque human being.

* It wasn't for his looks (he's no Robert Redford to put it nicely) and it wasn't for his intelligence (he's no Einstein either). I'm thinking it's just sheer idiocy of the highest order that led some troll to think she wanted to marry this guy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wells_Gray_Provincial_Park_Family_Murders

Thanks for sharing ... Never read about these crimes. The sad part of our justice is that he had a parole hearing already ... wouldn't surprise me that he gets out some day.

He's had a few parole hearings and the parole board is apparently warming to the idea of releasing him. No shit.

The family has to attend every two years with their petition to keep him behind bars.

His new wife swears he's a changed man and wants to start their life together.

She's an idiot.

oftenreading

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

lukin2006 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

In the DP thread... I detailed the case of David Shearing who killed a family of six that was camping at Wells Gray Park (near my city). He kept captive the two really young daughters for a few days while he did what he did with them before finishing them off.

This foul individual should have been executed for his obscenity, but this has already been debated in the DP thread- some feel that this sick, pathetic loser deserves life. Both sides to this debate lose because it's not entirely inconceivable that Canada's tissue paper soft penal system will open the doors and...

... allow Shearing to start a new life with...

Idiot Exhibit #2: his wife (the name has been withheld from the public).

It's true. Some idiot married this grotesque human being.

* It wasn't for his looks (he's no Robert Redford to put it nicely) and it wasn't for his intelligence (he's no Einstein either). I'm thinking it's just sheer idiocy of the highest order that led some troll to think she wanted to marry this guy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wells_Gray_Provincial_Park_Family_Murders

Thanks for sharing ... Never read about these crimes. The sad part of our justice is that he had a parole hearing already ... wouldn't surprise me that he gets out some day.

He's had a few parole hearings and the parole board is apparently warming to the idea of releasing him. No shit.

The family has to attend every two years with their petition to keep him behind bars.

His new wife swears he's a changed man and wants to start their life together.

She's an idiot.

Well, Thirty Bills Unpaid, I'm right with you on your opinion of the "new wife" (although looking at some info on this guy it seems she's not really new since they married quite a few years ago).

It looks like he's had two parole hearings, and was kept in both times. He waived his last hearing in September 2014. Where did you get your info that the board is warming to the idea of letting him out? Everything I've read (which admittedly isn't much) suggests no-one is really recommending he gets out except for Ms. New Wife.

I agree that the structure of the parole hearings seems unnecessarily cruel to the families of the victims. Personally, I don't know why they accept submissions from the families at the parole hearings. The place for family/victim submissions should be the initial sentencing phase. I know people will jump all over this as being insensitive to the families, but if you think about it, what new information is the family realistically going to add after 25 or 30 or 40 years? They are going to continue to be devastated by the loss of their loved one, and they are going to continue to want the offender to remain in prison; that's pretty much a given. What they don't have is any information to add that's relevant to what the board needs to decide, which is around risk for re-offending. It almost seems like a cruel charade, pretending that the family statements mean something when that isn't what the board is taking into account. The families are left feeling like it is their efforts alone that are keeping him in prison, so they go all out, put massive effort into making presentations and getting signatures, and have their lives ripped apart again every two years or so, probably for nothing. Because if the family submissions mean something to the parole board decision, what happens with the offenders whose victims don't have any surviving family, or whose families are too old or infirm to travel, or who don't want to face a media circus? Do they simply walk out of prison?

Thirty Bills Unpaid, you and I are not going to agree on the DP issue, but since we don't have the DP in Canada and since our current legal system does permit these parole board hearings, what do you think about this issue?