BILL COSBY IS A CONVICTED RAPIST

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  • Sorry. I am a girl. I feel things. As a kid of divorce whose dad ran off when I was small, and in my teenage mind, yeah that's what I wanted.
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  • Wma31394
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    Sorry. I am a girl. I feel things. As a kid of divorce whose dad ran off when I was small, and in my teenage mind, yeah that's what I wanted.

    No reason to apologize.. Sorry to hear that..
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  • oceaninmyeyes
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    It's okay. Maybe I should have said that I wished my dad could have been like the tv character instead of the chickenshit that he was.
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  • Last-12-Exit
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    Like I said in AMT, Cosby reminds me of Michael Jackson. Jacko was never convicted but with all of the allegations, I pretty much think he's a pedophile.

    As these accusations keep piling hop against Cosby, I find myself thinking that ALL of these women can't be lying. That's why I think that Cosby is a creep at the very least.
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    17 total accusers, to date...

    http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/news/bill-cosby-rape-accusers-speak-out-the-publics-mind-will-be-blown-20141121

    Bill Cosby Rape Accusers Speak Out: 'The Public's Mind Will Be Blown'
    "He will go down as this generation's most prolific serial rapist"

    By Nina Burleigh | November 21, 2014

    This week, entertainment execs at Netflix and NBC canceled upcoming projects with Bill Cosby in light of renewed rape allegations against the 77-year-old comedian and national icon.

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    The FBI says less than 50 percent of rapes are reported, and the Cosby case — with its delayed reporting and laggard response — is hardly unusual, nor peculiar to celebrity culture. Cosby's solid position as white America's favorite black father figure, and his stature compared to the women who say he assaulted them, certainly helped him blow off questioners and quietly settle a civil suit in which 10 women were prepared to testify to the same behavior. As recently as two weeks ago Cosby was on camera deflecting questions with the royal "we." "We don't answer that," Cosby says in a November 6th interview.

    Two of Bill Cosby's 17 rape accusers talked to Rolling Stone about what it feels like to bring down America's Favorite Dad.

    "I have been trying to be heard since 2006," Phoenix artist Barbara Bowman says. "We have a culture that re-victimizes the victims. It is the most shameful, scary intimidating filthy place to live. It is a place of shame and darkness and fear. When people ask, why didn't you tell anyone? Well I did tell someone."

    In the 1980s, Bowman was an ethereal 18-year-old blonde aspiring actress when a female agent introduced her to Cosby, who eventually drugged and raped her. "There was a good year of grooming and slowly, methodically, calculatingly tearing my spirit apart," she says. "I was an only child. I had no dad. My mother was not in New York with me. The only friend I had was a model also transitioning to New York. She knew and they knew she knew, so they separated us. We told my agent together and I never spoke to her again for 28 years." The agent, Bowman says, sent her home to her mother in Denver.

    Bowman first told her story to the media in 2006, to back up another woman's civil lawsuit against Cosby for similar behavior. Since last weekend, when she published an op-ed in the Washington Post, Bowman says her phone has been ringing off the hook.

    "He is going to go down," she says. "I believe he will go down as this generation's most prolific serial rapist. We are gathering a lot of details. I am not in a position to reveal things I have learned. I have heard from men and women, from people with information. And I think the public's mind will be blown." She says she's heard from six more women, none yet gone public, about similar incidents involving Cosby.

    New York-based writer Jean Tarshis, also spoke with Rolling Stone. Until this week, Tarshis had never talked publicly about her Cosby experience. Tarshis was an aspiring comedy writer in her early twenties when she encountered Cosby in L.A. in 1969. She says he drugged her and she woke up to him sticking his penis in her mouth. She never reported the incident, she says, because it took her 10 years to realize that what happened to her was rape, and then another 10 years to speak of it privately, to friends.

    "When people say, do you feel bad that people are accusing you of coming forward late, my response is there is nothing anyone can say that I haven't said to put myself down," she says. "After the first people I admitted it to, then I could speak more freely to others. But I had to pick and choose because of who it was. It wasn't 'oh I was raped by John Doe.' He was royalty, a beloved figure. He was adored."

    Bowman, Green, Constand, all in national media 10 years ago, plus 10 Jane Does with similar stories — none of them mattered individually or collectively until comedian Hannibal Buress — a man, as Bowman pointed out — joked onstage about Cosby's rape accusers in a standup routine that somehow went viral.

    Bowman, an artist who works part-time as a rape advocate and has a 12-year-old daughter, says she feels vindicated by Cosby's public fall. "It's a wonderful way to teach my daughter a valuable lesson in life as she watches her mom stand tall and shout from the rooftops and say it's ok, it's ok, come out and tell your stories," she said. "It feels liberating. I never came forward for money. My statute of limitations had long run out. I came out to support the victims and encourage women still living in fear to have courage."

    Tarshis, a journalist and publicist, says the incident with Cosby had a lasting effect on her career. "I stopped writing comedy. I stopped right away. Just could not do it. I have written other things and I maintained my sense of humor. It was very strange reaction. But luckily it didn't influence my feelings to men and to people. That really would have been worse."

    Cosby's first formal accuser and the only one to take him to court, Andrea Constand, a women's basketball staffer at Cosby's alma mater Temple University, told authorities that she woke up drugged in the star's home in 2004. Cosby was never charged but she filed a civil suit. Constand is constrained by settlement terms from speaking out But this week, she did tweet a quote from another revered children's icon, Dr. Seuss:

    "'My heart goes out to you: Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.'"

    Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/news/bill-cosby-rape-accusers-speak-out-the-publics-mind-will-be-blown-20141121#ixzz3JlaQeJ67
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  • JWPearl
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    question is, if he is guilty, where is he getting these pills from, i would like to know what jerk sells them date rape drugs and or if its from a gp L-)
  • Get_Right
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    Where there is smoke there is fire. And there is a lot of smoke here.
  • The Juggler
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    edited November 2014
    part 1

    http://www.phillymag.com/news/2014/11/21/kristina-ruehli-says-bill-cosby-drugged-tried-sexually-assault-1965/


    Kristina Ruehli Says Bill Cosby Drugged and Tried to Sexually Assault Her in 1965

    In an exclusive interview, his tenth public accuser details the earliest-known allegation against the comedian.

    By Victor Fiorillo | November 21, 2014 at 10:08 am
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    Kristina Ruehli in her 1967 wedding photo (left); Bill Cosby in an uncredited 1969 publicity photo | Wikipedia Commons (middle); Kristina Ruehli today (right)

    Kristina Ruehli in her 1967 wedding photo (left); Bill Cosby in an uncredited 1969 publicity photo | Wikipedia Commons (middle); Kristina Ruehli today (right)

    These days, Kristina Ruehli is a 71-year-old New Hampshire woman who spends her leisure time skiing and being a grandmother to eight. But back in 1965, she was a 22-year-old woman trying to make ends meet in California, working as a secretary at a talent agency in Beverly Hills. And that is where she met Bill Cosby.

    How did you come to know Bill Cosby?
    I worked for a talent agency called Artists Agency Corp. They had big clients like Bob Culp, Richard Crenna and George Burns, and these people were always around. And that is the way that I met Bill Cosby.

    He was a client?
    Yes, well, he came into the office. There were always all these contracts going around from the studio lawyer to the artist's lawyer, and I'm assuming he was there to talk to a lawyer about a contract.

    Cosby came back to where the secretaries were and said, "I'm going to be on Hollywood Palace tonight, and I'm going to have a party at my home afterwards." So he invited me, and I went.

    Did you think it was unusual for him to invite you to his house?
    No, it was supposed to be a party, and the agency was a very social place. And I was quite an attractive young woman with an A-plus figure and natural blonde hair, blue eyes. I was always compared to Barbara Eden in I Dream of Jeannie. I was frequently invited to parties. At an agency like that, back in those days, being attractive was one of the reasons you got hired. Like stewardesses.

    What happened when you got to the house?
    When I arrived at his house -- it was probably around 10 p.m. -- I was surprised that there was no one else there. He was very well liked at the agency, and so I expected others to be there. But no one else arrived.

    But you went in.
    Yes, I remember the front of the house was brick and it had a slight Tudor design. It was in Brentwood or Bel Air -- they all start with a "B."

    He said that his wife was out of town, but he brought me in and into one bedroom where there was an infant child in the crib. He actually showed me, a very young baby. The child was fast asleep. He seemed so proud of it. He wanted to show me his little baby. I don't know where the nanny or maid was, but someone had to be there, because he had come from Hollywood Palace.

    We went out into the kitchen. He proceeded to pour some bourbon. I drank a bourbon-and-7 at the time. I could really hold my liquor. I'm Irish. And I had a couple of those -- just two -- and then I just don't remember much.

    What do you remember?
    Well, off his kitchen was a pool, and I somehow ended up around that pool for a while.

    Was it supposed to be a pool party? Were you in a bathing suit?
    No, no. I was wearing nylon stockings and high heels and a dress. This was 1965, and that's what you wore to a party. So, I ended up by the pool, and, well, I was in quite a foggy state. I have vague memories of someone walking next to me at the pool, and the next day, I realized that the bottoms of my nylons were completely tore up. Not just a run, but tore up. So I must have been walking around the pool for quite a while.

    Off the pool in one direction was a bedroom. Whether it was his bedroom or a guest bedroom, I really don't know, but I think it was not the master bedroom, because there really wasn't much to it.

    And somehow, I wound up in that bed.

    Did you lose consciousness at some point?
    Yes, I completely passed out. At that age, two bourbon-and-7s would not have knocked me out cold, believe me. In those days, I could drink most men under the table. It was a standard eight-ounce glass, and they were not overly strong, or I would have noticed it.

    He must have drugged me. There is just one point at which I was having a drink and feeling normal and the next I was somehow passed out completely. He must have slipped something into my drink. It's the only way to go lights-out like that.

    When did you wake up?
    It was all foggy, and I woke up in the bed. I found myself on the bed, and he had his shirt off. He had unzipped his pants. I was just coming to.

    He was attempting to force me into oral sex. He had his hand on my head. He had his cock out, and he had my head pushed close enough to it — I just remember looking at his stomach hair. And the hair on his chest. I had never seen a black man naked before.

    And it never went past that. I immediately came to and was immediately very sick. I pushed myself away and ran to the bathroom and threw up. I was feeling really ill. And I never got sick like that from alcohol, at least not that small of an amount.

    Once I threw up — it was five in the morning by now, I think — I left the bathroom and he wasn't there. I don't know where he went. But I left right away. I was able to drive myself home. I didn't live that far away.

    And what did you do the next day?
    I showed up at work at 9 a.m., actually. I asked two of my girlfriends in the office why no one came to the house. I more or less got the sort of tip of a head, shake of a shoulder … It was sort of a body language communication, but nothing verbal. Sort of a looking away. Sometimes you know something but don't want to say anything.
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    part 2
    http://www.phillymag.com/news/2014/11/21/kristina-ruehli-says-bill-cosby-drugged-tried-sexually-assault-1965/


    Kristina Ruehli Says Bill Cosby Drugged and Tried to Sexually Assault Her in 1965
    What were your interactions with him like after that?
    I never saw him again in my life. And not long after that, I resigned and went to work for a law firm, and then I got married. Every time I saw him on TV, I thought this isn't the good guy that he's portrayed to be.

    Did you tell anyone about it?
    Not for a long time. I didn't want to bring it up. I was embarrassed. How did that happen? I was embarrassed that I had put myself in that position, because the woman always blames herself, right?

    But eventually you did say something.
    Yes. When Andrea Constand brought her lawsuit against Cosby, I decided to come forward to her attorneys. I didn't think I was damaged, so there wouldn't be any lawsuit coming from me. I don't need money or aggravation. I'm very wealthy, so I have nothing to gain. But I wanted to come forward to tell the truth to back up other people.

    Their stories are all the same. Suddenly, I was passed out, and the next thing I know, there he is. It's almost like he wants you awake. He waits.

    So I spoke with a lawyer in the Constand case. I was one of those Jane Does. And then they settled it, and I got a letter from Constand's lawyer saying thank you very much.

    Until I read about Andrea, I never really had a reason to tell anyone about it. But when I read about her, she's getting called a liar, and I don't like that. So I am going to say these people are not the only ones. And now that more women are coming forward and people are calling them liars, I decided to come forward again.

    Were you ever deposed?
    No, they said I may be deposed, but I wasn't. They told me that I may be subjected to a lot of hostility or bad publicity, and I said, That's fine. I'm telling the truth. That's fine.

    Do you know any of the other accusers, the Jane Does or otherwise?
    No, no I don't. I never met any of them. Never spoke with them.

    And you never told anyone else but the lawyer?
    Well, I did tell — I was living with the man I am now married to — I did tell him when the Constand case came up. I told him I was going forward.

    What do you want to see happen now?
    I've done what I thought was the right thing for me to do. I've come forward. But I am not trying to drive a process.

    These things catch up with you eventually. Kind of wants you to lead an honest life. It all catches up. And now this is catching up with him.
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  • PJ_Soul
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    Like I said in AMT, Cosby reminds me of Michael Jackson. Jacko was never convicted but with all of the allegations, I pretty much think he's a pedophile.

    As these accusations keep piling hop against Cosby, I find myself thinking that ALL of these women can't be lying. That's why I think that Cosby is a creep at the very least.

    I actually don't think MJ was a pedophile. He was just weird and misunderstood IMO.
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  • Last-12-Exit
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    PJ_Soul said:

    Like I said in AMT, Cosby reminds me of Michael Jackson. Jacko was never convicted but with all of the allegations, I pretty much think he's a pedophile.

    As these accusations keep piling hop against Cosby, I find myself thinking that ALL of these women can't be lying. That's why I think that Cosby is a creep at the very least.

    I actually don't think MJ was a pedophile. He was just weird and misunderstood IMO.
    I'm sure there were a few parents out there looking for a quick buck at the expense of their own children, but there were just so many accusations of inappropriate touching and behavior that it's hard to ignore.
  • The Juggler
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    i think it's up to 20 women at this point.

    http://www.people.com/article/bill-cosby-resigns-temple-university-trustee


    Bill Cosby Steps Down from Board of Trustees at Temple University

    Bill Cosby announced Monday he has stepped down from the board of trustees at his beloved Temple University.

    "I have always been proud of my association with Temple University," Cosby said in a statement released through the Philadelphia school.

    "I have always wanted to do what would be in the best interests of the university and its students," he said. "As a result, I have tendered my resignation from the Temple University Board of Trustees."

    Cosby had been a board member for 32 years.

    Temple released its own response in the same statement.

    "The Board of Trustees accepts Dr. Cosby's resignation from the board and thanks him for his service to the university," the statement said.

    Temple is the latest – and undoubtedly one of the most personally devastating – blows for Cosby, 77, in the wake of renewed publicity about drugging and sexual assault allegations against him.

    Cosby has been a staunch and visible supporter of the college through the years, often wearing Temple sweatshirts in public. He and his wife Camille have donated money and even have a scholarship named for them. Cosby attended the university but did not graduate.

    Cosby has spoken at many graduations – most recently last May – and in August, Temple hosted his induction into the Writers Guild of America.

    Patrick O'Connor, one of Cosby's attorneys who represented him in former Temple employee Andrea Constand's 2005 lawsuit against him and the current chairman of Temple's board of trustees, told Reuters Cosby called him Monday to resign.

    "He didn't want his personal issue to detract from his service to Temple," O'Connor told Reuters. "He was a great trustee. I thanked him for his service."


    Temple has been under pressure to distance itself from Cosby.

    On Nov. 21, Temple alumna Kerry Potter McCormick, a Manhattan attorney, started a change.org petition calling on Temple to dump Cosby from its board.

    "It's time for Temple University to sever its ties with this man," she wrote. "Temple should not be the last organization to end its relationship with Bill Cosby – it should have happened in 2005 when the allegations against him first began to surface."

    McCormick says she is pleased with the decision.

    "I hope that, going forward, Temple will make the right decisions for its community," she tells PEOPLE.

    Cosby was in the midst of a comedy tour when the scandal resurfaced. He is scheduled for two performances in Tarrytown, New York, on Dec. 6 but is offering refunds to the sold-out shows, according to the The Journal News of Westchester County. So far, one in three ticketholders have accepted the offer, according to the paper.

    Meanwhile, Cosby has the staunch support of his wife, Camille, and their family.

    "His family is very close and they support him," a source close to the family tells PEOPLE. "They've closed ranks."
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    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/new-cosby-accuser-could-trigger-first-prosecution/ar-AA8aKs7


    New Cosby accuser could trigger first prosecution

    Comedian Bill Cosby performs onstage in New York on October 21, 2010: Comedian Bill Cosby performs onstage in New York. © Provided by AFP Comedian Bill Cosby performs onstage in New York.

    A woman who claims Bill Cosby drugged and sexually molested her in 2008 took her case to police Wednesday, said her lawyer, who added that he believes the actor could be prosecuted.

    Chloe Goins was 18 at the time of the alleged incident at the Playboy Mansion, which could be the first case to fall within the statute of limitations allowing a prosecution to be brought, said lawyer Spencer Kuvin.

    "That is up for the police to determine, but we believe that it does fall within the statute for California," Kuvin told AFP, while declining to say how long that statute would be for the alleged offense.

    Speaking earlier after accompanying his client to Los Angeles Police Department (LAPD) headquarters, he told reporters: "Miss Goins and I are here for two reasons -- for justice and for accountability.

    "Apparently Mr. Cosby feels brazen enough and confident enough in his actions to make jokes at some of his shows about the 25-plus women that have now come forward. Miss Goins is certainly not joking," he added.

    Goins claims Cosby gave her a drink, then took her to a bedroom where she passed out and later woke up in bed naked with the comedian, who was allegedly licking her toes and masturbating.

    Cosby's lawyer has repeatedly denied any wrongdoing by the comedian, who has been accused of similar offenses dating back decades by more than 20 women in all.

    LAPD spokesman Andy Smith would not comment on the details of the case, or the statute of limitations.

    "We will take a report from anybody, and we'll initiate an investigation on any allegations of criminal misconduct," he told reporters, adding: "We're happy to do that, and we will push forward with an investigation on that case."

    In December, LA prosecutors declined to charge Cosby over claims he sexually assaulted a woman who said Cosby assaulted her at the Playboy mansion in 1974 when she was 15, because the case was beyond the statute of limitations.

    Cosby is famous for his role in "The Cosby Show," a popular family sitcom that aired in the 1980s and 1990s.
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  • The Juggler
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    and how bout him making jokes about himself being a rapist at his show the other day?

    really?
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  • Indifference71
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    and how bout him making jokes about himself being a rapist at his show the other day?

    really?

    I can't believe this guy is still doing shows. Also can't believe people would actually still go see him. Sounds like all of his shows have been a mess though with people blowing rape whistles and yelling at him.
  • Poncier
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    Goins claims Cosby gave her a drink, then took her to a bedroom where she passed out and later woke up in bed naked with the comedian, who was allegedly licking her toes and masturbating.


    Imagine waking up to that.
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