Swatting

Stickman12

I am very pro gun but have to say that Im not a fan of open carry. I think that it draws too much unnecessary attention to yourself. If you do it just to exercise your right to open carry, more times than not it gives off a negative vibe more than a positive one. If you are in a environment where open carry is more known and accepted, i say go for it, but to do it out in public for no other reason than to exercise your right, I believe is more harmful than helpful. Especially when you have the option to conceal carry which serves the purpose of carrying more effective than open carry.

brianlux

ejleonjr said:

I am very pro gun but have to say that Im not a fan of open carry. I think that it draws too much unnecessary attention to yourself. If you do it just to exercise your right to open carry, more times than not it gives off a negative vibe more than a positive one. If you are in a environment where open carry is more known and accepted, i say go for it, but to do it out in public for no other reason than to exercise your right, I believe is more harmful than helpful. Especially when you have the option to conceal carry which serves the purpose of carrying more effective than open carry.

I certainly would not describe myself as "pro-gun" but this is sensible and well said.

hedonist

brianlux said:

Also I would caution labeling a whole group of people bases on the actions of a few extremest. That's like saying all pro animal rights activists burn down buildings. Not so.

Yup, I abide by this philosophy no matter the issue.

As to the OP, I liken it to the assholes who call in fake 911's in order to take down the responders.

Jason P

I don't consider this swatting. Swatting is calling in a complete false emergency and using technology to create a false phone ID in hope of a SWAT team busting into someone’s house when they are watching kitten videos on Youtube or picking their nose.

I think it is more than reasonable to think that at least someone is going to call the cops if someone is walking around with an (what looks like) assault rifle in a Walmart or most any other public setting.

As for it being a right in the state of Ohio, once again common sense must be exercised. It's my right to go to Englewood in Chicago and go up to a bunch of gangbangers and call them a bunch of fuck faces, but I would not be exercising common sense.

fife

of course its not ok to call 911 and lie to the police about something bad happening.

but to be honest, if i saw a person in a store with a gun or what looked like a gun my first reaction would be to call the police.

MayDay10

in short, no, its not okay and extremely unfair to everyone. Cops, other citizens, guy with gun, the "anti gun crowd", etc...

MayDay10

Okay, I just read the article. It isnt "swatting" and the details seem very vague.

vant0037

unsung said:

Some of you are sort of missing my point, open carry isn't the discussion. We already have threads in that. My topic was based around people that use police to 'punish'. They call in fake threats, they talk about murdering open carry people simply because they disagree with it.

Do you guys believe that this is acceptable? Thirty has said it is not. I agree. This is the way of a coward at best, more likely the way of being complicent in murder.

These people hate guns so much, but have no problem with calling people in to use guns under false pretenses in order to force their beliefs on others.

I will concede that there are a LOT of people who use the law to get at one another. An example would be a partner in a relationship who calls the cops, saying they were assaulted, just to get that other person arrested.

But...I think its a HUGE stretch to believe that people are calling the police on others with a weapon just because they don't like guns...at least on a regular or frequent basis. This is America; crazy shit happens all the time. People calling the cops on someone with a gun on the hopes that the cops will then come shoot that person with a gun? IF it occurs at all, I'd say it's rare, at best.

JonnyPistachio

unsung said:

It's clear who the real enemy is, the hurt feelings crowd.


http://bearingarms.com/moms-demand-supporters-hope-executions-open-carriers/

See they don't want law abiding people to exercise their right so they'll call costumed government thugs to come and use guns on the innocent person because they hate guns. Makes total sense.

These people are accomplices to murder. They are cowards.

Accomplices to murder? That is a HUGE stretch.
You make it sound like this is happening all the time, all over the place. If in fact people were calling the police on someone openly displaying a large firearm, I would assume it was because it looks pretty damned out of place. So tell me, how often are anti gun people actually coming across someone with open carry, and calling the police hoping that the person is executed? Does this not sounds utterly ridiculous?

josevolution

whoa if people are really doing that calling the cops and lying about what the so called person with gun/rifle or what have you is doing with it is fucked , i'm glad i don't live in a state with open carry law in effect , can we just set up one state where all the gun nuts can just go and have at it with each other j/k folks ....

CM189191

unsung said:

I just wanted to discuss the topic of swatting and how it's a tactic that the anti gun crowd is using. I didn't want this thread to turn into another "woe is me its too easy to get guns" or "open carry is for people who xxxxx" threads.

Swat away.

OK, but I'm going to need your address first. Residence or place of business should work. Either way, your choice.

kce8

The only thing I get from this or all the other discussions about this fucking gun shit is just this:

It´s just crazy to let people go around with any weapons at all !!! dot

Oh, and I did understand the point what should be discussed here - but for me there would be no discussion at all. If you could´t buy weapons just for fun this sad story did not have happened.
(sorry for my messy english)

gimmesometruth27

JonnyPistachio said:

unsung said:

It's clear who the real enemy is, the hurt feelings crowd.


http://bearingarms.com/moms-demand-supporters-hope-executions-open-carriers/

See they don't want law abiding people to exercise their right so they'll call costumed government thugs to come and use guns on the innocent person because they hate guns. Makes total sense.

These people are accomplices to murder. They are cowards.

Accomplices to murder? That is a HUGE stretch.
You make it sound like this is happening all the time, all over the place. If in fact people were calling the police on someone openly displaying a large firearm, I would assume it was because it looks pretty damned out of place. So tell me, how often are anti gun people actually coming across someone with open carry, and calling the police hoping that the person is executed? Does this not sounds utterly ridiculous?

sounds like something dr evil would do.

really though. does someone wake up in the morning and think...."jeeeez....i'm pretty bored. i have nothing do to for the next 20 years while this weaves its way through the courts and appeals....how about i start a 20 year ordeal to get guy carrying a large gun executed...."

drives to find someone open carrying...

facepalm...

unsung

These comments were copied off that Moms group FB page.

So yeah it happens.

http://bearingarms.com/moms-demand-supporters-hope-executions-open-carriers/

dignin

unsung said:

These comments were copied off that Moms group FB page.

So yeah it happens.

http://bearingarms.com/moms-demand-supporters-hope-executions-open-carriers/

These facebook posts are obvious proof of "swatting".......


You're grasping at straws man.

brianlux

josevolution said:

whoa if people are really doing that calling the cops and lying about what the so called person with gun/rifle or what have you is doing with it is fucked , i'm glad i don't live in a state with open carry law in effect , can we just set up one state where all the gun nuts can just go and have at it with each other j/k folks ....

Good idea! I vote for Nevada.

( j/k here too folks :-D )

unsung

dignin said:

unsung said:

These comments were copied off that Moms group FB page.

So yeah it happens.

http://bearingarms.com/moms-demand-supporters-hope-executions-open-carriers/

These facebook posts are obvious proof of "swatting".......


You're grasping at straws man.

Nope, they are advocating for violence against law abiding people at all.

blueandwhite

This is why I'm always nervous when I travel down in the United States. The obsession with guns is unsettling to me as a foreigner from Canada. While I don't agree with "swatting" as a practice, I can understand why shoppers would be nervous when confronted by a person who is openly carrying a firearm. Openly carrying a firearm is a great way to instil fear into others so I don't find it at all surprising when somebody overreacts and calls the police.

I'll be very honest; people who go around carrying guns in public scare the hell out of me. When somebody is always thinking about the need to have a gun at their fingertips it's only a matter of time before there is a tragedy. I firmly believe that many of the people who exercise their right to carry are on a power trip. They are definitely people I would make every effort to avoid in my daily life.

CM189191

unsung said:

dignin said:

unsung said:

These comments were copied off that Moms group FB page.
So yeah it happens.
http://bearingarms.com/moms-demand-supporters-hope-executions-open-carriers/

These facebook posts are obvious proof of "swatting".......
You're grasping at straws man.

Nope, they are advocating for violence against law abiding people at all.

I'm ok with this.

This guy looks like a real jackhole.

Like yelling out "FIRE" in a crowded movie theater.

These idiots who wave their dicks around in public aren't helping your cause...

unsung

blueandwhite said:

This is why I'm always nervous when I travel down in the United States. The obsession with guns is unsettling to me as a foreigner from Canada. While I don't agree with "swatting" as a practice, I can understand why shoppers would be nervous when confronted by a person who is openly carrying a firearm. Openly carrying a firearm is a great way to instil fear into others so I don't find it at all surprising when somebody overreacts and calls the police.

I'll be very honest; people who go around carrying guns in public scare the hell out of me. When somebody is always thinking about the need to have a gun at their fingertips it's only a matter of time before there is a tragedy. I firmly believe that many of the people who exercise their right to carry are on a power trip. They are definitely people I would make every effort to avoid in my daily life.

Did you read the comments? This isn't about people being nervous, this is about people who are advocating violence, including murder, because they disagree with these people who are not breaking any laws.

With so many of you clearly either ignoring it or supporting it by not responding to it makes me believe that it could be accepted.