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Adelanto, CA and Perry, GA comes to mind seeing this. Both set up speed traps and write tickets all day.mickeyrat said:
Haven't been to either in years though.0 -
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This was a 60 minutes report the other week.mickeyrat said:0 -
Back the blue, eh? And some wonder why Seattle has fallen.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/14/us/seattle-police-officer-phone-comments-woman-killed/index.html
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I think we can also point out the senseless brutality the police face as well.
Deputy was executed while sitting in his car in front of the sheriff's station.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/los-angeles-deputy-shot-killed-ambushed-patrol-car-rcna105461#:~:text=Deputy Ryan Clinkunbroomer, 30, was,wound but did not survive.
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Come on man, the rotten brains on here could careless about the brutality the police face. Most still think BLM is still a legitimate thang yo…mace1229 said:I think we can also point out the senseless brutality the police face as well.
Deputy was executed while sitting in his car in front of the sheriff's station.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/los-angeles-deputy-shot-killed-ambushed-patrol-car-rcna105461#:~:text=Deputy Ryan Clinkunbroomer, 30, was,wound but did not survive.0 -
amazingly not in fear of their life. go figure......_____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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Where's the "rotten brain" comments on this one. Oh yea, right, doesn't fit the narrative.
AIKEN, S.C. (AP) — A 79-year-old South Carolina man avoided a possible death sentence Thursday by agreeing to plead guilty to ambushing police officers coming to his home, killing two of the officers and wounding five others.
Frederick Hopkins court appearance was unannounced and reporters following the widely publicized case were not in the courtroom in Aiken County, some 120 miles (169 kilometers) from where the October 2018 attack took place.
Hopkins was charged with two counts of murder and five counts of attempted murder.
Hopkins will be sentenced later, but his attorney Boyd Young told media outlets after the hearing that prosecutors agreed to take the death penalty off the table. Hopkins would face 30 years to life in prison for murder.
Three Florence County deputies told Hopkins they were coming to his home in an upscale subdivision to execute a search warrant against his son for possible sexual abuse charges.
Hopkins, a decorated Vietnam War veteran, armed himself in a upstairs window and fired at the deputies as they got out of their car. He kept shooting as more officers rushed to the scene to save their comrades.
So many rounds were fired with such powerful weapons that it took up to 30 minutes to get an armored vehicle close enough to rescue the wounded officers. He used three firearms in the ambush, and more than 100 guns were found in his home.
Florence Police Sgt. Terrence Carraway died the day of the shooting and Florence County Sheriff’s deputy Farrah Turner died nearly three weeks later from her wounds.
The son, 33-year-old Seth Hopkins, pleaded guilty in 2019 to second-degree criminal sexual conduct with a minor and is serving 20 years in prison.
Frederick Hopkins' lawyers, prosecutors and the judge have kept much of the case away from reporters. In June, they all agreed to close the courtroom from the media and the public during pre-trial hearings and kept all motions and records off South Carolina’s public court records site.
When cameras have been at Hopkins hearings, his behavior has been erratic. A disbarred attorney, Hopkins called prosecutor Ed Clements “Fat Eddie” several times during a hearing where the prosecution announced they would seek the death penalty and Hopkins did not have a lawyer present.
In a later hearing, Hopkins was in a wheelchair and had a device to help him hear the proceedings.
South Carolina man pleads guilty to ambush that killed 2 officers and wounded 5 (msn.com)
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That was a sergeant throwing blows. Well, there goes his pension.mickeyrat said:0 -
I've never understood how that is allowed. Teachers, police, and others put into their pension from their own paycheck, but then it can be taken away if they get fired? How is that different than taking away someone's private 401k because they stole office supplies and got fired?tempo_n_groove said:
That was a sergeant throwing blows. Well, there goes his pension.mickeyrat said:0 -
I actually agree you but hey, don't break the law then.mace1229 said:
I've never understood how that is allowed. Teachers, police, and others put into their pension from their own paycheck, but then it can be taken away if they get fired? How is that different than taking away someone's private 401k because they stole office supplies and got fired?tempo_n_groove said:
That was a sergeant throwing blows. Well, there goes his pension.mickeyrat said:0 -
mace1229 said:
I've never understood how that is allowed. Teachers, police, and others put into their pension from their own paycheck, but then it can be taken away if they get fired? How is that different than taking away someone's private 401k because they stole office supplies and got fired?tempo_n_groove said:
That was a sergeant throwing blows. Well, there goes his pension.mickeyrat said:you're teachers union right?by what percentage of your check goes to pension.its my understanding that the employer funds the pension system as a benefit negotiated in the contract....._____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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I'm not a member of the union. I was, but learned only about 5% of teachers in my district are and as a result, the union has zero power to negotiate anything. So it was a waste of $800 last year.mickeyrat said:mace1229 said:
I've never understood how that is allowed. Teachers, police, and others put into their pension from their own paycheck, but then it can be taken away if they get fired? How is that different than taking away someone's private 401k because they stole office supplies and got fired?tempo_n_groove said:
That was a sergeant throwing blows. Well, there goes his pension.mickeyrat said:you're teachers union right?by what percentage of your check goes to pension.its my understanding that the employer funds the pension system as a benefit negotiated in the contract.....
But either way, it's not a factor in retirement, that's always been a state decision.They take 5% out of my paycheck for retirement. When I was in Colorado I contributed 8 or 9%.
I think the law is if I get fired and my pension taken away, they do have to refund me what I put in. But there are huge fees involved and no interest paid out. I'm not entirely positive on that though.0 -
That was my gut reaction (but I don't know nothin' so I didn't say nothin' until seeing this); employer contribution lost and employee contribution retained.mace1229 said:
I'm not a member of the union. I was, but learned only about 5% of teachers in my district are and as a result, the union has zero power to negotiate anything. So it was a waste of $800 last year.mickeyrat said:mace1229 said:
I've never understood how that is allowed. Teachers, police, and others put into their pension from their own paycheck, but then it can be taken away if they get fired? How is that different than taking away someone's private 401k because they stole office supplies and got fired?tempo_n_groove said:
That was a sergeant throwing blows. Well, there goes his pension.mickeyrat said:you're teachers union right?by what percentage of your check goes to pension.its my understanding that the employer funds the pension system as a benefit negotiated in the contract.....
But either way, it's not a factor in retirement, that's always been a state decision.They take 5% out of my paycheck for retirement. When I was in Colorado I contributed 8 or 9%.
I think the law is if I get fired and my pension taken away, they do have to refund me what I put in. But there are huge fees involved and no interest paid out. I'm not entirely positive on that though.1995 Milwaukee 1998 Alpine, Alpine 2003 Albany, Boston, Boston, Boston 2004 Boston, Boston 2006 Hartford, St. Paul (Petty), St. Paul (Petty) 2011 Alpine, Alpine
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Which after all is said and done is like losing your pension because its not worth squat.OnWis97 said:
That was my gut reaction (but I don't know nothin' so I didn't say nothin' until seeing this); employer contribution lost and employee contribution retained.mace1229 said:
I'm not a member of the union. I was, but learned only about 5% of teachers in my district are and as a result, the union has zero power to negotiate anything. So it was a waste of $800 last year.mickeyrat said:mace1229 said:
I've never understood how that is allowed. Teachers, police, and others put into their pension from their own paycheck, but then it can be taken away if they get fired? How is that different than taking away someone's private 401k because they stole office supplies and got fired?tempo_n_groove said:
That was a sergeant throwing blows. Well, there goes his pension.mickeyrat said:you're teachers union right?by what percentage of your check goes to pension.its my understanding that the employer funds the pension system as a benefit negotiated in the contract.....
But either way, it's not a factor in retirement, that's always been a state decision.They take 5% out of my paycheck for retirement. When I was in Colorado I contributed 8 or 9%.
I think the law is if I get fired and my pension taken away, they do have to refund me what I put in. But there are huge fees involved and no interest paid out. I'm not entirely positive on that though.0 -
Yeah, imagine investing in stocks for 30 years, only to be told you get your original investment back, minus penalties, fees and no interest gained. If that was how you planned your retirement, you're screwed.
And employer contribution I don't think is significant, if anything. The retirement organization, whatever it is, will invest your money and use that to grow it and pay for pensions. It's like Social Security.
Where I'm at now does it completely different than anywhere else I've been. The reason I only pay 5% into my pension is because my pension is going to suck, but I also qualify for SS (which is also taken out of my paycheck) and my employer does contribute to a 401k.
In Colorado, when I was paying 9 or 10% into the pension because that was all we had. No SS, no 401k (unless we funded it ourselves).Post edited by mace1229 on0
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