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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,306
    edited July 2023
    nicknyr15 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mace1229 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    I look forward to the posts defending and/or excusing the tactics of the police and their dog.
    I don't think anyone is defending that one considering an officer can be heard yelling "don't release the dog with his hands up".
    for a mudflap. a fix it ticket. doesnt put you out of service. whole lot of bullshit over something incredibly minor. inconsequentially minor.

    It wasn’t for a kid flap. It was for evading police.
    Thatsba big letters peeve of these headlines, they take one thing out of the more than one, and claim this is what it was all about.
    He was pulled over for a mid flap. He pulled over, then took off evading police to the point they laid down tire spikes. So, no, this altercation was not just over mud flaps.
    it’s trying to evade police on a chase in a semi tractor trailer 

    look. it was a fucking mud flap. stop sticks for a fucking mud flap? the excuse to pull him over?  gtfoh here with your hero can do no wrong fucking bullshit.
    What a shitty response. No wonder you only post tweets and links. That’s no way to communicate with people. 

    missing mud flap is a bullshit reason to initiate a stop. ask me how I know. potential out of service violation, sure. do a level 3 inspection, which they crawl up your ass to do. very comprehensive.

    going out on a limb here and state, if that were a white driver I'd  guess they arent stopped.
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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,824
    mickeyrat said:
    mace1229 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    I look forward to the posts defending and/or excusing the tactics of the police and their dog.
    I don't think anyone is defending that one considering an officer can be heard yelling "don't release the dog with his hands up".
    for a mudflap. a fix it ticket. doesnt put you out of service. whole lot of bullshit over something incredibly minor. inconsequentially minor.

    It wasn’t for a kid flap. It was for evading police.
    Thatsba big letters peeve of these headlines, they take one thing out of the more than one, and claim this is what it was all about.
    He was pulled over for a mid flap. He pulled over, then took off evading police to the point they laid down tire spikes. So, no, this altercation was not just over mud flaps.
    it’s trying to evade police on a chase in a semi tractor trailer 

    look. it was a fucking mud flap. stop sticks for a fucking mud flap? the excuse to pull him over?  gtfoh here with your hero can do no wrong fucking bullshit.
    I didn’t say they were hero’s. I even said they shouldn’t have released the dog. So I have no idea why you jumped to that conclusion. Releasing the dog on him was wrong, even the officer who seemed like he was making the calls was telling him not to release the dog.
    But that doesn’t change the facts of the case. And the fact is he was on a chase with police with a semi truck.  So you can get out of here with your mud flap theory because that is plain false.

    Thats like me illegally parking so I can rob a bank at gun point, then when the police shoot me for robbing a bank with a gun, I claim it’s because I illegally parked. No, it’s because I robbed a bank with a gun.
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,824
    edited July 2023
    I don’t think mud flaps are that unheard of to get a warning or ticket for. I’ve seen jeep and truck forums with people talking about lifting their cars and at what point you’d need flaps and comments with tickets and warning.
    Ive been pulled over for fix it tickets before. Didn’t lead them in a chase and was let off with a warning.
    That can all be true and still be true that the dog was unnecessary and discipline is warranted. Unless the cop just lost control or something, I couldn’t tell from the video. 
    But why is anyone surprised that they had a K-9 unit ready at the end of a 30 minute chase that required tire spikes to stop the truck? Seems completely reasonable to have a K-9 unit on scene if you’re planning to deploy spikes. 
    But they didn’t need to send off the dog.
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  • lindamarie73
    lindamarie73 Posts: 491
    mickeyrat said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mace1229 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    I look forward to the posts defending and/or excusing the tactics of the police and their dog.
    I don't think anyone is defending that one considering an officer can be heard yelling "don't release the dog with his hands up".
    for a mudflap. a fix it ticket. doesnt put you out of service. whole lot of bullshit over something incredibly minor. inconsequentially minor.

    It wasn’t for a kid flap. It was for evading police.
    Thatsba big letters peeve of these headlines, they take one thing out of the more than one, and claim this is what it was all about.
    He was pulled over for a mid flap. He pulled over, then took off evading police to the point they laid down tire spikes. So, no, this altercation was not just over mud flaps.
    it’s trying to evade police on a chase in a semi tractor trailer 

    look. it was a fucking mud flap. stop sticks for a fucking mud flap? the excuse to pull him over?  gtfoh here with your hero can do no wrong fucking bullshit.
    What a shitty response. No wonder you only post tweets and links. That’s no way to communicate with people. 

    missing mud flap is a bullshit reason to initiate a stop. ask me how I know. potential out of service violation, sure. do a level 3 inspection, which they crawl up your ass to do. very comprehensive.

    going out on a limb here and state, if that were a white driver I'd  guess they arent stopped.
    When one knows you are wrong and get schooled, throw out the RACE card and you always win in the rotten brain world….

  • Parksy
    Parksy Posts: 1,849
    Regarding the mud flap incident... here are my thoughts for those who care lol: 

    1) Your police have far too much fire power and have a history of violence and abuse against black people. 

    - This has and will cause issues down the road.. but this incident showcases what I'm referring to here.  Should a citizen immediately stop and listen to police upon instruction? Under normal circumstances, yes.  The problem with those 'normal circumstances' is that the system has basically given it's citizens cause for concern when they are pulled over. Fix the problem with your police before you expect the problem with your citizens to be resolved. The onus is on the system here. And as for the guns being carried and drawn by police. My goodness. It almost seemed to me that the cops EXPECTED the driver to be armed like Rambo when they pulled him over.  It seemed to me like the officers, armed to teeth, were operating under the assumption that they were in danger... when in reality, it was the driver who was in danger. 

    2) The cop with the dog needs to be fired, and then charged criminally with assault. Aggravated assault, assault with a weapon.. who knows. But assault for sure. I don't know why I'm surprised anymore, but this video surprised me. I could not believe what I saw. Even after being warned by other cops not to, he quite literally directed his dog to attack an unarmed man who had his hands up. Wow. 

    3)  This to me is the biggest... biggest... biggest question your judicial system as a whole needs to be asking. And this is exactly what I thought the first time I saw the George Floyd video.  --->  A crime was committed in broad daylight.  A violent crime at that. This violent crime was committed in front of multiple police officers. An arrest was not made.   Why? <---   We all know the answer. But we all ought to know that the answer itself is morally and ethically fucking wrong. And until that stops, you expect black people to of course be afraid of being pulled over.  
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  • cottagesteeze
    cottagesteeze St. Paul, MN Posts: 218
    mace1229 said:
    I don’t think mud flaps are that unheard of to get a warning or ticket for. I’ve seen jeep and truck forums with people talking about lifting their cars and at what point you’d need flaps and comments with tickets and warning.
    Ive been pulled over for fix it tickets before. Didn’t lead them in a chase and was let off with a warning.
    That can all be true and still be true that the dog was unnecessary and discipline is warranted. Unless the cop just lost control or something, I couldn’t tell from the video. 
    But why is anyone surprised that they had a K-9 unit ready at the end of a 30 minute chase that required tire spikes to stop the truck? Seems completely reasonable to have a K-9 unit on scene if you’re planning to deploy spikes. 
    But they didn’t need to send off the dog.
    https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/24/us/circleville-ohio-police-k9-dog-attack/index.html

     Excuse me if I'm wrong, but isn't this the same case where the driver stopped originally? Then took off and called 911 himself because the cops were approaching him with guns drawn. What about mud flaps requires that?
    Rule number one of firearms - don't aim at anything you don't intend to kill.
    What would your response be if police approached you with guns drawn? The man rightfully feared for his life.

    Regardless of this incident, I personally view the use of police dogs as unethical. They're vicious and cause unnecessary harm to way to many people.


  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,144
    mickeyrat said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mace1229 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    I look forward to the posts defending and/or excusing the tactics of the police and their dog.
    I don't think anyone is defending that one considering an officer can be heard yelling "don't release the dog with his hands up".
    for a mudflap. a fix it ticket. doesnt put you out of service. whole lot of bullshit over something incredibly minor. inconsequentially minor.

    It wasn’t for a kid flap. It was for evading police.
    Thatsba big letters peeve of these headlines, they take one thing out of the more than one, and claim this is what it was all about.
    He was pulled over for a mid flap. He pulled over, then took off evading police to the point they laid down tire spikes. So, no, this altercation was not just over mud flaps.
    it’s trying to evade police on a chase in a semi tractor trailer 

    look. it was a fucking mud flap. stop sticks for a fucking mud flap? the excuse to pull him over?  gtfoh here with your hero can do no wrong fucking bullshit.
    What a shitty response. No wonder you only post tweets and links. That’s no way to communicate with people. 

    missing mud flap is a bullshit reason to initiate a stop. ask me how I know. potential out of service violation, sure. do a level 3 inspection, which they crawl up your ass to do. very comprehensive.

    going out on a limb here and state, if that were a white driver I'd  guess they arent stopped.
    they were behind him though....did they know he was black?

    I don't disagree that it's kind of stupid but it's possible they just wanted to let him know...like a courtesy pullover to tell you your brake light is out.


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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,812
    edited July 2023
    mickeyrat said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mace1229 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    I look forward to the posts defending and/or excusing the tactics of the police and their dog.
    I don't think anyone is defending that one considering an officer can be heard yelling "don't release the dog with his hands up".
    for a mudflap. a fix it ticket. doesnt put you out of service. whole lot of bullshit over something incredibly minor. inconsequentially minor.

    It wasn’t for a kid flap. It was for evading police.
    Thatsba big letters peeve of these headlines, they take one thing out of the more than one, and claim this is what it was all about.
    He was pulled over for a mid flap. He pulled over, then took off evading police to the point they laid down tire spikes. So, no, this altercation was not just over mud flaps.
    it’s trying to evade police on a chase in a semi tractor trailer 

    look. it was a fucking mud flap. stop sticks for a fucking mud flap? the excuse to pull him over?  gtfoh here with your hero can do no wrong fucking bullshit.
    What a shitty response. No wonder you only post tweets and links. That’s no way to communicate with people. 

    missing mud flap is a bullshit reason to initiate a stop. ask me how I know. potential out of service violation, sure. do a level 3 inspection, which they crawl up your ass to do. very comprehensive.

    going out on a limb here and state, if that were a white driver I'd  guess they arent stopped.
    When one knows you are wrong and get schooled, throw out the RACE card and you always win in the rotten brain world….


    Sure, release the dogs on a mud flap perpetrator but then go ahead and elect a President lying to an armed crowd ripping them  into a murderous frenzy by knowingly lying about an election result and also telling them someone is stealing away your country, resulting in five dead cops. Makes perfect sense.
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,144
    mace1229 said:
    I don’t think mud flaps are that unheard of to get a warning or ticket for. I’ve seen jeep and truck forums with people talking about lifting their cars and at what point you’d need flaps and comments with tickets and warning.
    Ive been pulled over for fix it tickets before. Didn’t lead them in a chase and was let off with a warning.
    That can all be true and still be true that the dog was unnecessary and discipline is warranted. Unless the cop just lost control or something, I couldn’t tell from the video. 
    But why is anyone surprised that they had a K-9 unit ready at the end of a 30 minute chase that required tire spikes to stop the truck? Seems completely reasonable to have a K-9 unit on scene if you’re planning to deploy spikes. 
    But they didn’t need to send off the dog.
    https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/24/us/circleville-ohio-police-k9-dog-attack/index.html

     Excuse me if I'm wrong, but isn't this the same case where the driver stopped originally? Then took off and called 911 himself because the cops were approaching him with guns drawn. What about mud flaps requires that?
    Rule number one of firearms - don't aim at anything you don't intend to kill.
    What would your response be if police approached you with guns drawn? The man rightfully feared for his life.

    Regardless of this incident, I personally view the use of police dogs as unethical. They're vicious and cause unnecessary harm to way to many people.


    yes but according to the article the cops were only called after he refused to pull over for the inspection officer. So he made the decision to ignore the inspection officer first. Then, when the marked police cars arrived, he called 911 and said he was too scared to pull over.
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,336
    I'd like to bring back one of my pet peeves.  

    Lazy reporting.

    Al Jazeera is supposed to be a decent news agency.  This was anything but  that.  Triggering and false title.

    Damn click bait.
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,336
    mickeyrat said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mace1229 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    I look forward to the posts defending and/or excusing the tactics of the police and their dog.
    I don't think anyone is defending that one considering an officer can be heard yelling "don't release the dog with his hands up".
    for a mudflap. a fix it ticket. doesnt put you out of service. whole lot of bullshit over something incredibly minor. inconsequentially minor.

    It wasn’t for a kid flap. It was for evading police.
    Thatsba big letters peeve of these headlines, they take one thing out of the more than one, and claim this is what it was all about.
    He was pulled over for a mid flap. He pulled over, then took off evading police to the point they laid down tire spikes. So, no, this altercation was not just over mud flaps.
    it’s trying to evade police on a chase in a semi tractor trailer 

    look. it was a fucking mud flap. stop sticks for a fucking mud flap? the excuse to pull him over?  gtfoh here with your hero can do no wrong fucking bullshit.
    What a shitty response. No wonder you only post tweets and links. That’s no way to communicate with people. 

    missing mud flap is a bullshit reason to initiate a stop. ask me how I know. potential out of service violation, sure. do a level 3 inspection, which they crawl up your ass to do. very comprehensive.

    going out on a limb here and state, if that were a white driver I'd  guess they arent stopped.
    When one knows you are wrong and get schooled, throw out the RACE card and you always win in the rotten brain world….


    Sure, release the dogs on a mud flap perpetrator but then go ahead and elect a President lying to an armed crowd ripping them  into a murderous frenzy by knowingly lying about an election result and also telling them someone is stealing away your country, resulting in five dead cops. Makes perfect sense.
    Way to bring Trump in to this...
  • cottagesteeze
    cottagesteeze St. Paul, MN Posts: 218
    mace1229 said:
    I don’t think mud flaps are that unheard of to get a warning or ticket for. I’ve seen jeep and truck forums with people talking about lifting their cars and at what point you’d need flaps and comments with tickets and warning.
    Ive been pulled over for fix it tickets before. Didn’t lead them in a chase and was let off with a warning.
    That can all be true and still be true that the dog was unnecessary and discipline is warranted. Unless the cop just lost control or something, I couldn’t tell from the video. 
    But why is anyone surprised that they had a K-9 unit ready at the end of a 30 minute chase that required tire spikes to stop the truck? Seems completely reasonable to have a K-9 unit on scene if you’re planning to deploy spikes. 
    But they didn’t need to send off the dog.
    https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/24/us/circleville-ohio-police-k9-dog-attack/index.html

     Excuse me if I'm wrong, but isn't this the same case where the driver stopped originally? Then took off and called 911 himself because the cops were approaching him with guns drawn. What about mud flaps requires that?
    Rule number one of firearms - don't aim at anything you don't intend to kill.
    What would your response be if police approached you with guns drawn? The man rightfully feared for his life.

    Regardless of this incident, I personally view the use of police dogs as unethical. They're vicious and cause unnecessary harm to way to many people.


    yes but according to the article the cops were only called after he refused to pull over for the inspection officer. So he made the decision to ignore the inspection officer first. Then, when the marked police cars arrived, he called 911 and said he was too scared to pull over.
    Okay, after reading through the article again, I agree with you that he refused to pull over the first time. I originally pictured it as if he pulled over right away and then fled when he was approached with guns drawn for his mud flap violation.

    That said, i still believe we need to get rid of attack K9's. Sure, we can use them for bomb sniffing but attacking humans is cruel and unusual punishment in my book.
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,336
    mace1229 said:
    I don’t think mud flaps are that unheard of to get a warning or ticket for. I’ve seen jeep and truck forums with people talking about lifting their cars and at what point you’d need flaps and comments with tickets and warning.
    Ive been pulled over for fix it tickets before. Didn’t lead them in a chase and was let off with a warning.
    That can all be true and still be true that the dog was unnecessary and discipline is warranted. Unless the cop just lost control or something, I couldn’t tell from the video. 
    But why is anyone surprised that they had a K-9 unit ready at the end of a 30 minute chase that required tire spikes to stop the truck? Seems completely reasonable to have a K-9 unit on scene if you’re planning to deploy spikes. 
    But they didn’t need to send off the dog.
    https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/24/us/circleville-ohio-police-k9-dog-attack/index.html

     Excuse me if I'm wrong, but isn't this the same case where the driver stopped originally? Then took off and called 911 himself because the cops were approaching him with guns drawn. What about mud flaps requires that?
    Rule number one of firearms - don't aim at anything you don't intend to kill.
    What would your response be if police approached you with guns drawn? The man rightfully feared for his life.

    Regardless of this incident, I personally view the use of police dogs as unethical. They're vicious and cause unnecessary harm to way to many people.


    yes but according to the article the cops were only called after he refused to pull over for the inspection officer. So he made the decision to ignore the inspection officer first. Then, when the marked police cars arrived, he called 911 and said he was too scared to pull over.
    Okay, after reading through the article again, I agree with you that he refused to pull over the first time. I originally pictured it as if he pulled over right away and then fled when he was approached with guns drawn for his mud flap violation.

    That said, i still believe we need to get rid of attack K9's. Sure, we can use them for bomb sniffing but attacking humans is cruel and unusual punishment in my book.
    The police got rid of batons for that reason.
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,144
    mace1229 said:
    I don’t think mud flaps are that unheard of to get a warning or ticket for. I’ve seen jeep and truck forums with people talking about lifting their cars and at what point you’d need flaps and comments with tickets and warning.
    Ive been pulled over for fix it tickets before. Didn’t lead them in a chase and was let off with a warning.
    That can all be true and still be true that the dog was unnecessary and discipline is warranted. Unless the cop just lost control or something, I couldn’t tell from the video. 
    But why is anyone surprised that they had a K-9 unit ready at the end of a 30 minute chase that required tire spikes to stop the truck? Seems completely reasonable to have a K-9 unit on scene if you’re planning to deploy spikes. 
    But they didn’t need to send off the dog.
    https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/24/us/circleville-ohio-police-k9-dog-attack/index.html

     Excuse me if I'm wrong, but isn't this the same case where the driver stopped originally? Then took off and called 911 himself because the cops were approaching him with guns drawn. What about mud flaps requires that?
    Rule number one of firearms - don't aim at anything you don't intend to kill.
    What would your response be if police approached you with guns drawn? The man rightfully feared for his life.

    Regardless of this incident, I personally view the use of police dogs as unethical. They're vicious and cause unnecessary harm to way to many people.


    yes but according to the article the cops were only called after he refused to pull over for the inspection officer. So he made the decision to ignore the inspection officer first. Then, when the marked police cars arrived, he called 911 and said he was too scared to pull over.
    Okay, after reading through the article again, I agree with you that he refused to pull over the first time. I originally pictured it as if he pulled over right away and then fled when he was approached with guns drawn for his mud flap violation.

    That said, i still believe we need to get rid of attack K9's. Sure, we can use them for bomb sniffing but attacking humans is cruel and unusual punishment in my book.
    Yeah it's an odd situation. They likely brought the dog figuring the guy would eventually pull over and then run.
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,306
    mickeyrat said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mace1229 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    I look forward to the posts defending and/or excusing the tactics of the police and their dog.
    I don't think anyone is defending that one considering an officer can be heard yelling "don't release the dog with his hands up".
    for a mudflap. a fix it ticket. doesnt put you out of service. whole lot of bullshit over something incredibly minor. inconsequentially minor.

    It wasn’t for a kid flap. It was for evading police.
    Thatsba big letters peeve of these headlines, they take one thing out of the more than one, and claim this is what it was all about.
    He was pulled over for a mid flap. He pulled over, then took off evading police to the point they laid down tire spikes. So, no, this altercation was not just over mud flaps.
    it’s trying to evade police on a chase in a semi tractor trailer 

    look. it was a fucking mud flap. stop sticks for a fucking mud flap? the excuse to pull him over?  gtfoh here with your hero can do no wrong fucking bullshit.
    What a shitty response. No wonder you only post tweets and links. That’s no way to communicate with people. 

    missing mud flap is a bullshit reason to initiate a stop. ask me how I know. potential out of service violation, sure. do a level 3 inspection, which they crawl up your ass to do. very comprehensive.

    going out on a limb here and state, if that were a white driver I'd  guess they arent stopped.
    they were behind him though....did they know he was black?

    I don't disagree that it's kind of stupid but it's possible they just wanted to let him know...like a courtesy pullover to tell you your brake light is out.



    have had several interactions with L.E. in a semi. EVERY time they were in the median. I passed them, believe I was seen behind the wheel,  they pulled out and hit the lights.
    trained people, to notice and mentally catalog details.....


    was called in on once with a bullshit claim of fuel leak. tropper commented he saw my dadh was clean of everything, and figured it was a bs call.
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,144
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mace1229 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    I look forward to the posts defending and/or excusing the tactics of the police and their dog.
    I don't think anyone is defending that one considering an officer can be heard yelling "don't release the dog with his hands up".
    for a mudflap. a fix it ticket. doesnt put you out of service. whole lot of bullshit over something incredibly minor. inconsequentially minor.

    It wasn’t for a kid flap. It was for evading police.
    Thatsba big letters peeve of these headlines, they take one thing out of the more than one, and claim this is what it was all about.
    He was pulled over for a mid flap. He pulled over, then took off evading police to the point they laid down tire spikes. So, no, this altercation was not just over mud flaps.
    it’s trying to evade police on a chase in a semi tractor trailer 

    look. it was a fucking mud flap. stop sticks for a fucking mud flap? the excuse to pull him over?  gtfoh here with your hero can do no wrong fucking bullshit.
    What a shitty response. No wonder you only post tweets and links. That’s no way to communicate with people. 

    missing mud flap is a bullshit reason to initiate a stop. ask me how I know. potential out of service violation, sure. do a level 3 inspection, which they crawl up your ass to do. very comprehensive.

    going out on a limb here and state, if that were a white driver I'd  guess they arent stopped.
    they were behind him though....did they know he was black?

    I don't disagree that it's kind of stupid but it's possible they just wanted to let him know...like a courtesy pullover to tell you your brake light is out.



    have had several interactions with L.E. in a semi. EVERY time they were in the median. I passed them, believe I was seen behind the wheel,  they pulled out and hit the lights.
    trained people, to notice and mentally catalog details.....


    was called in on once with a bullshit claim of fuel leak. tropper commented he saw my dadh was clean of everything, and figured it was a bs call.
    In this case the driver blew by the inspection point and then wouldn't pull over for the inspection officer when pursued...it does seem like pulling him over was the right thing to do
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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,812
    mickeyrat said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mace1229 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    I look forward to the posts defending and/or excusing the tactics of the police and their dog.
    I don't think anyone is defending that one considering an officer can be heard yelling "don't release the dog with his hands up".
    for a mudflap. a fix it ticket. doesnt put you out of service. whole lot of bullshit over something incredibly minor. inconsequentially minor.

    It wasn’t for a kid flap. It was for evading police.
    Thatsba big letters peeve of these headlines, they take one thing out of the more than one, and claim this is what it was all about.
    He was pulled over for a mid flap. He pulled over, then took off evading police to the point they laid down tire spikes. So, no, this altercation was not just over mud flaps.
    it’s trying to evade police on a chase in a semi tractor trailer 

    look. it was a fucking mud flap. stop sticks for a fucking mud flap? the excuse to pull him over?  gtfoh here with your hero can do no wrong fucking bullshit.
    What a shitty response. No wonder you only post tweets and links. That’s no way to communicate with people. 

    missing mud flap is a bullshit reason to initiate a stop. ask me how I know. potential out of service violation, sure. do a level 3 inspection, which they crawl up your ass to do. very comprehensive.

    going out on a limb here and state, if that were a white driver I'd  guess they arent stopped.
    When one knows you are wrong and get schooled, throw out the RACE card and you always win in the rotten brain world….


    Sure, release the dogs on a mud flap perpetrator but then go ahead and elect a President lying to an armed crowd ripping them  into a murderous frenzy by knowingly lying about an election result and also telling them someone is stealing away your country, resulting in five dead cops. Makes perfect sense.
    Way to bring Trump in to this...


    Why should any conservative not be challenged when their party is overwhelmingly supporting a man personally responsible for the deaths of these DC cops? Can you name a previous non incumbent leading by such a huge margin, up 35% in the primary polls? There’s no hypocrisy here when they pretend to support law enforcement?
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,336
    mickeyrat said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mace1229 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    I look forward to the posts defending and/or excusing the tactics of the police and their dog.
    I don't think anyone is defending that one considering an officer can be heard yelling "don't release the dog with his hands up".
    for a mudflap. a fix it ticket. doesnt put you out of service. whole lot of bullshit over something incredibly minor. inconsequentially minor.

    It wasn’t for a kid flap. It was for evading police.
    Thatsba big letters peeve of these headlines, they take one thing out of the more than one, and claim this is what it was all about.
    He was pulled over for a mid flap. He pulled over, then took off evading police to the point they laid down tire spikes. So, no, this altercation was not just over mud flaps.
    it’s trying to evade police on a chase in a semi tractor trailer 

    look. it was a fucking mud flap. stop sticks for a fucking mud flap? the excuse to pull him over?  gtfoh here with your hero can do no wrong fucking bullshit.
    What a shitty response. No wonder you only post tweets and links. That’s no way to communicate with people. 

    missing mud flap is a bullshit reason to initiate a stop. ask me how I know. potential out of service violation, sure. do a level 3 inspection, which they crawl up your ass to do. very comprehensive.

    going out on a limb here and state, if that were a white driver I'd  guess they arent stopped.
    When one knows you are wrong and get schooled, throw out the RACE card and you always win in the rotten brain world….


    Sure, release the dogs on a mud flap perpetrator but then go ahead and elect a President lying to an armed crowd ripping them  into a murderous frenzy by knowingly lying about an election result and also telling them someone is stealing away your country, resulting in five dead cops. Makes perfect sense.
    Way to bring Trump in to this...


    Why should any conservative not be challenged when their party is overwhelmingly supporting a man personally responsible for the deaths of these DC cops? Can you name a previous non incumbent leading by such a huge margin, up 35% in the primary polls? There’s no hypocrisy here when they pretend to support law enforcement?
    Wasn't aware that the truck driver voted for trump. /S/

    I don't see how any of this is relevant to the current topic of a mudflap and a dog and fleeing police?
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,812
    mickeyrat said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mace1229 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    I look forward to the posts defending and/or excusing the tactics of the police and their dog.
    I don't think anyone is defending that one considering an officer can be heard yelling "don't release the dog with his hands up".
    for a mudflap. a fix it ticket. doesnt put you out of service. whole lot of bullshit over something incredibly minor. inconsequentially minor.

    It wasn’t for a kid flap. It was for evading police.
    Thatsba big letters peeve of these headlines, they take one thing out of the more than one, and claim this is what it was all about.
    He was pulled over for a mid flap. He pulled over, then took off evading police to the point they laid down tire spikes. So, no, this altercation was not just over mud flaps.
    it’s trying to evade police on a chase in a semi tractor trailer 

    look. it was a fucking mud flap. stop sticks for a fucking mud flap? the excuse to pull him over?  gtfoh here with your hero can do no wrong fucking bullshit.
    What a shitty response. No wonder you only post tweets and links. That’s no way to communicate with people. 

    missing mud flap is a bullshit reason to initiate a stop. ask me how I know. potential out of service violation, sure. do a level 3 inspection, which they crawl up your ass to do. very comprehensive.

    going out on a limb here and state, if that were a white driver I'd  guess they arent stopped.
    When one knows you are wrong and get schooled, throw out the RACE card and you always win in the rotten brain world….


    Sure, release the dogs on a mud flap perpetrator but then go ahead and elect a President lying to an armed crowd ripping them  into a murderous frenzy by knowingly lying about an election result and also telling them someone is stealing away your country, resulting in five dead cops. Makes perfect sense.
    Way to bring Trump in to this...


    Why should any conservative not be challenged when their party is overwhelmingly supporting a man personally responsible for the deaths of these DC cops? Can you name a previous non incumbent leading by such a huge margin, up 35% in the primary polls? There’s no hypocrisy here when they pretend to support law enforcement?
    Wasn't aware that the truck driver voted for trump. /S/

    I don't see how any of this is relevant to the current topic of a mudflap and a dog and fleeing police?

    I was replying to a conservative commenter feigning fake support for the police and mocking a liberal commenter here. IMHO conservatives need to account for the violence and deaths their support for trump has created, especially the cops that died on Jan six. You want to ever support the police? support trumps indictment. It starts and ends there.

    what many fail to realize, trump…and the hate, violence and political deaths he brings with him, trump would be NOTHING without the support he consistently receives from conservatives 
  • mickeyrat
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    there are no scalehouses down there. very few left in ohio now. thats a primary place for inspections.

    MOST likely passed the OSHP unit, that was MOST likely in the median, parked in such a way to see the cab and the driver. Likely known truck company has a poor icsa score, suggesting violations with equipment or driver logs. a profiling if you will. has to do with findings from previous stops and can alert L.E. for serious violations.

    I have personally run with a missing mud flap. inoperable lights, abs light glaring yellow orange , passing one or more troopers. NEVER stopped for those items.

    So , company score or because he was black. Generally OSHP is above board, locals not so much. ESPECIALLY  in southern Ohio.....

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