Police abuse

OnWis97

I believe the air freshener led to the pullover, which then led to them running the plates or license and finding out about the warrant.

That's all white America needs to know. "He's no angel."

tbergs

The police mistakes are just amplified in every new incident that occurs. I think the officer panicked. Goes back to their training though. They have to change the mentality of every interaction being life or death. Is it possible, yes, but FFS, use some better judgment.

tbergs

OnWis97 said:

I believe the air freshener led to the pullover, which then led to them running the plates or license and finding out about the warrant.

That's all white America needs to know. "He's no angel."

Yeah, I think I work with several people who fall in this mindset. I already got a message from my boss complaining about the protests today. Annoying how they try to interfere with our everyday lives /s

mickeyrat

tbergs said:

OnWis97 said:

I believe the air freshener led to the pullover, which then led to them running the plates or license and finding out about the warrant.

That's all white America needs to know. "He's no angel."

Yeah, I think I work with several people who fall in this mindset. I already got a message from my boss complaining about the protests today. Annoying how they try to interfere with our everyday lives /s

yeah, that would be the epitome of WP....

Ledbetterman10

OnWis97 said:

I believe the air freshener led to the pullover, which then led to them running the plates or license and finding out about the warrant.

That's all white America needs to know. "He's no angel."

His facebook photos that are being put on twitter by the usual suspects that show him pointing a gun at the camera while smoking a blunt will reinforce that. But nevertheless, it's more about police failing to follow proper protocols for me. The warrant was for possessing a pistol without a permit. So it's possible he had a gun. But unless he did, he shouldn't have been shot. That's why we need body camera footage. 

jerparker20

Just saw the bodycam footage of this. The cop done fucked up big time. Appears the cop thought they had a taser, but had sidearm instead. announced that the taser would be deployed, discharged sidearm.

It’s bad.

Ledbetterman10

jerparker20 said:

Just saw the bodycam footage of this. The cop done fucked up big time. Appears the cop thought they had a taser, but had sidearm instead. announced that the taser would be deployed, discharged sidearm.

It’s bad.

Yeah here it is. What a fuck-up.

https://youtu.be/H4dOBB1IFXo

Now I know people get upset when someone says this, but if he just complied, he's still alive right now. No, before the typical responses come in, I don't think resisting arrest should be death sentence. And that cop should face major consequences. But that crappy cop doesn't even have an opportunity to fuck-up if he complied. 

OnWis97

jerparker20 said:

Just saw the bodycam footage of this. The cop done fucked up big time. Appears the cop thought they had a taser, but had sidearm instead. announced that the taser would be deployed, discharged sidearm.

It’s bad.

Granted, I don't know anything about tasers but are they really that similar? If so, that's a huge design issue.

jerparker20

OnWis97 said:

jerparker20 said:

Just saw the bodycam footage of this. The cop done fucked up big time. Appears the cop thought they had a taser, but had sidearm instead. announced that the taser would be deployed, discharged sidearm.

It’s bad.

Granted, I don't know anything about tasers but are they really that similar? If so, that's a huge design issue.

Similar design. Both have pistol grips.

Ledbetterman10

OnWis97 said:

jerparker20 said:

Just saw the bodycam footage of this. The cop done fucked up big time. Appears the cop thought they had a taser, but had sidearm instead. announced that the taser would be deployed, discharged sidearm.

It’s bad.

Granted, I don't know anything about tasers but are they really that similar? If so, that's a huge design issue.

They're not very similar at all other than each having a trigger. The taser has more of a plastic feel. Like something a children's slide on a swingset would be made out of. 

It's really a matter of her not knowing where her shit was. She's right-handed, so her gun should be holstered on the right on the side, and her taser should be holstered on the left in the front. It's an unbelievable fuck-up. 

Ledbetterman10

Here, for reference....

Merkin Baller

nvm

mickeyrat

Ledbetterman10 said:

jerparker20 said:

Just saw the bodycam footage of this. The cop done fucked up big time. Appears the cop thought they had a taser, but had sidearm instead. announced that the taser would be deployed, discharged sidearm.

It’s bad.

Yeah here it is. What a fuck-up.

https://youtu.be/H4dOBB1IFXo

Now I know people get upset when someone says this, but if he just complied, he's still alive right now. No, before the typical responses come in, I don't think resisting arrest should be death sentence. And that cop should face major consequences. But that crappy cop doesn't even have an opportunity to fuck-up if he complied. 

Philando Castille.

now what.

tbergs

mickeyrat said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

jerparker20 said:

Just saw the bodycam footage of this. The cop done fucked up big time. Appears the cop thought they had a taser, but had sidearm instead. announced that the taser would be deployed, discharged sidearm.

It’s bad.

Yeah here it is. What a fuck-up.

https://youtu.be/H4dOBB1IFXo

Now I know people get upset when someone says this, but if he just complied, he's still alive right now. No, before the typical responses come in, I don't think resisting arrest should be death sentence. And that cop should face major consequences. But that crappy cop doesn't even have an opportunity to fuck-up if he complied. 

Philando Castille.

now what.

I know that's not what he meant, but I think it's important we don't get dragged in to that argument or let that control the narrative. Bottom line, better training and policing should be the focus. That still won't prevent officers from making mistakes. This accidental use of a firearm instead of a Taser has to be about a 1 in 1,000 mistake considering how often cops use tasers. She got tunnel vision and her brain and body were on a different frequency. Mental exhaustion and stress induced mistake that proved deadly. I feel horrible for her as well. This is not another Chauvin type situation. Unfortunately, with that trial under way and people on edge, it will result in more violent protests because for many the circumstances are immaterial, it's just another in a long line of wrongful deaths at the hands of police.

nicknyr15

tbergs said:

mickeyrat said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

jerparker20 said:

Just saw the bodycam footage of this. The cop done fucked up big time. Appears the cop thought they had a taser, but had sidearm instead. announced that the taser would be deployed, discharged sidearm.

It’s bad.

Yeah here it is. What a fuck-up.

https://youtu.be/H4dOBB1IFXo

Now I know people get upset when someone says this, but if he just complied, he's still alive right now. No, before the typical responses come in, I don't think resisting arrest should be death sentence. And that cop should face major consequences. But that crappy cop doesn't even have an opportunity to fuck-up if he complied. 

Philando Castille.

now what.

I know that's not what he meant, but I think it's important we don't get dragged in to that argument or let that control the narrative. Bottom line, better training and policing should be the focus. That still won't prevent officers from making mistakes. This accidental use of a firearm instead of a Taser has to be about a 1 in 1,000 mistake considering how often cops use tasers. She got tunnel vision and her brain and body were on a different frequency. Mental exhaustion and stress induced mistake that proved deadly. I feel horrible for her as well. This is not another Chauvin type situation. Unfortunately, with that trial under way and people on edge, it will result in more violent protests because for many the circumstances are immaterial, it's just another in a long line of wrongful deaths at the hands of police.

Great post. I’m glad you brought up the cop. You have to feel for her as well. Definitely not another chauvin situation.  

mickeyrat

tbergs said:

mickeyrat said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

jerparker20 said:

Just saw the bodycam footage of this. The cop done fucked up big time. Appears the cop thought they had a taser, but had sidearm instead. announced that the taser would be deployed, discharged sidearm.

It’s bad.

Yeah here it is. What a fuck-up.

https://youtu.be/H4dOBB1IFXo

Now I know people get upset when someone says this, but if he just complied, he's still alive right now. No, before the typical responses come in, I don't think resisting arrest should be death sentence. And that cop should face major consequences. But that crappy cop doesn't even have an opportunity to fuck-up if he complied. 

Philando Castille.

now what.

I know that's not what he meant, but I think it's important we don't get dragged in to that argument or let that control the narrative. Bottom line, better training and policing should be the focus. That still won't prevent officers from making mistakes. This accidental use of a firearm instead of a Taser has to be about a 1 in 1,000 mistake considering how often cops use tasers. She got tunnel vision and her brain and body were on a different frequency. Mental exhaustion and stress induced mistake that proved deadly. I feel horrible for her as well. This is not another Chauvin type situation. Unfortunately, with that trial under way and people on edge, it will result in more violent protests because for many the circumstances are immaterial, it's just another in a long line of wrongful deaths at the hands of police.

my point, it doesnt seem to matter if compliance or not. fuck, you get killed in bed.

mace1229

mickeyrat said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

jerparker20 said:

Just saw the bodycam footage of this. The cop done fucked up big time. Appears the cop thought they had a taser, but had sidearm instead. announced that the taser would be deployed, discharged sidearm.

It’s bad.

Yeah here it is. What a fuck-up.

https://youtu.be/H4dOBB1IFXo

Now I know people get upset when someone says this, but if he just complied, he's still alive right now. No, before the typical responses come in, I don't think resisting arrest should be death sentence. And that cop should face major consequences. But that crappy cop doesn't even have an opportunity to fuck-up if he complied. 

Philando Castille.

now what.

I will agree with Lebetterman. Philandro was terrible and should not have happened. But that 1 incident does not prove that the dozens of others who did rest and ended up dead would have been killed anyway. That would be like me pointing to one good day outside and saying "see, climate change is fake, today is a great day!"
With the incident yesterday he certainly would be alive had he not resisted when being placed in cuffs and ran into his car. And like LB said, that does not warrant a shooting or mean he is deserving of being killed. But if I wanted to teach people to live, I'd tell them the last thing they want to do is resist. Do what this guy did.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NqZnm7wQeg
Whos is more likely to get killed, this guy who video taped his stop by police or the guy who pushes and fights back? Not only did he live, but will probably get a nice financial bonus for living too.

Ledbetterman10

mickeyrat said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

jerparker20 said:

Just saw the bodycam footage of this. The cop done fucked up big time. Appears the cop thought they had a taser, but had sidearm instead. announced that the taser would be deployed, discharged sidearm.

It’s bad.

Yeah here it is. What a fuck-up.

https://youtu.be/H4dOBB1IFXo

Now I know people get upset when someone says this, but if he just complied, he's still alive right now. No, before the typical responses come in, I don't think resisting arrest should be death sentence. And that cop should face major consequences. But that crappy cop doesn't even have an opportunity to fuck-up if he complied. 

Philando Castille.

now what.

Terrible comparison. Castille is actually a good example of a black guy being shot by police for no reason at all. Even his complete compliance didn’t help him. So if you want to scream police brutality or white supremacy or whatever over that, have at it. This wasn’t that. This guy had a warrant cause he no-showed his court hearing for a possessing a gun without a license, was being taken into custody (by a black officer by the way), and decided to try and jump in his car. And again, a completely inexcusable fuck-up by the shitty cop that pulled her gun instead of taser. But my point that he’s still alive if he just doesn’t resist is still accurate. 

static111

https://twitter.com/breenewsome/status/1381728736316432391?s=21

static111