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  • rssesqrssesq Posts: 3,299
    I did not see any news agencies reporting about the above demonstrations in new york city and I live 30 miles away.

    The "american" press are big pussies afraid to lose their jobs who "report" on behalf of Israel.
    Good Night and good Luck (l'chaim)
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    edited July 2014
    Same in England as far as I'm aware. Approx 100,000 protested in the streets of London the other day and it was completely ignored by the mainstream media.

    There's a big demo in London tomorrow though. Shame I can't be there.
  • badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255
    rssesq said:

    I did not see any news agencies reporting about the above demonstrations in new york city and I live 30 miles away.

    The "american" press are big pussies afraid to lose their jobs who "report" on behalf of Israel.
    Good Night and good Luck (l'chaim)

    It's telling isn't it? Amazing the power and control they have OVER America. All these so called "America, love it or leave it" folks can't see what's really going on. I mean, a massacre is happening and our leaders are thinking about vacation. Yup, congress, "for the people, by the people." For what people? The people of Israel?????
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
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  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,720
    In Greece we dont have pro...they show all and show both sides and all the reaction in the rest of the world..
    but news here is fucked up ahem comes to.our shit and economy...then they say so many lies..
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • SivanMeriliSivanMerili Posts: 133
    edited July 2014
  • eldarion75eldarion75 Posts: 2,488
    This is exactly whats wrong with US media..FOX news is like the WWF of the media world. Pure theatre for the single digit IQ viewers who dont think to look elsewhere for the truth. Sadly, far too many over there won't realise that as it's all their spoonfed
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/25/sean-hannity-yousef-munayyer-rant_n_5620231.html
  • eldarion75eldarion75 Posts: 2,488
    for reasons other than the obvious, it important to remember the jewish lobby is deeply in the pockets of US politicians and parties on both sides of the aisle..even if they wanted to speak out against whats happenning theyd have to tow the party line or be outcast...has any elected official in the US said anything other than the usual 'Israel has a right to defend itself' BS? i doubt it
  • badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255

    for reasons other than the obvious, it important to remember the jewish lobby is deeply in the pockets of US politicians and parties on both sides of the aisle..even if they wanted to speak out against whats happenning theyd have to tow the party line or be outcast...has any elected official in the US said anything other than the usual 'Israel has a right to defend itself' BS? i doubt it

    No doubt eldarion, great book on it is :

    They to Dare Speak Out: People and Institutions Confront Israel's Lobby
    Book by Paul Findley

    A MUST READ
  • eldarion75eldarion75 Posts: 2,488
    sometimes the simple truth and reality of those involved is enough to make us all wake up, either side
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  • benjsbenjs Posts: 9,151
    badbrains said:

    Wow, I just checked in and some of the stuff being said here by miss Israel is straight up appalling. She sounds just like her maniac leaders over there. Lies after lies being told and I'm gonna say something to all of you who have seen thru the lies, thru the smoke screens and deflections. BRAVO to all of you who are in here speaking up and posting links of facts and videos showing us in this community what the fuck is really happening. It's embarrassing we live in a world where people find it ok to kill women and children systematically.

    I want to thank the people in here who are speaking up and screaming for this to stop. I dnt claim to be a great writer or anything. It's hard for me to put into words what my mind is thinking. Thank god I got people in here like the byrnzie's, the eldarion, the drowned outs, the gimmies and my Jewish friend Ben who have the ability to write great and post mostly things I'm thinking but have a hard time expressing especially with all this ANGER in me. and it's so fucken awesome to see NEW faces in here who are starting to see thru the lies and bullshit. Who are starting themselves to speak up! I applaud you for at least wanting to know what's going on. I'm sure there's a lot who are reading but not posting and that's awesome too. Dnt stop, continue to find the answers. The old people ruining this world, they're gonna be gone soon and it's gonna be up to us to change the world, to change the Ora of our earth. We have to, this can't continue to go on. Not anymore. Not in my name.

    It's my pleasure and my moral obligation to stand up, Brother.

    Let's find an end to this, and then find something further from home but equally important to dig our heels into together... If there's anything I've learnt from this experience, it's that we should not only feel a need to speak up for the things which affect our daily lives. I feel a personal shame and embarrassment at not having done so sooner. I can only speak for myself, however, as nationalism seems to have been added to the list of "silly causes for aggression" alongside religion.
    badbrains said:

    rgambs said:

    badbrains, i am a total supporter of Palestine (not Hamas, but I understand that humans behave as animals when caged) but i think calling for Muslim solidarity is counter-productive. I understand your anger that your Muslim brother countries havnt stepped in, but have you considered the fallout if they did? Clearly there is an anti-muslim bent in the western world (america particularly) and i fear that support for israel would increase if the US media were able to spin this as a racial issue, the "brown jihadists" against the "white-ish Jews". It would be all too easy to paint Israel as the victim if the conflict involved another Arab state. What do you think Byrnzie?

    The only solution to this terrible issue is total Palestinian pacifism. They would need to Allow themselves to be slaughtered and oppressed without raising a finger, praying for their aggressors the whole way. Of course that is easy for me to say, and it would mean terrible loss of life, but the world would take notice in a whole new way. I dont think i could do it, so i dont think its a real solution, but theoretically it is the only way that I see.
    As my boy Shelley said, in The Masque of Anarchy
    "...Look upon them as the slay
    Till their rage has died away
    Then they will return with shame
    To the place from which they came,
    And the blood thus shed will speak
    In hot blushes on their cheek.
    RISE LIKE LIONS AFTER SLUMBER
    IN UNVANQUISHABLE NUMBER,
    SHAKE YOUR CHAINS TO EARTH LIKE DEW
    WHICH IN SLEEP HAD BEFALLEN YOU-
    YE ARE MANY-- THEY ARE FEW!
    idealistic and not based in reality, i know, but it is quite an ideal to reach for.

    You know what rG, I never thought of it like that. Great post. Now you've got me thinking again.
    And this I have to agree with as well. Like I've said here before - do I agree with the means and methodology of getting global attention? No. Do I UNDERSTAND them? 100%. Historically, look at vows of silence and hunger strikes - these are effective pacifist-approved ways to drive change.
    Do I think it's a disgusting and tragic shame that, of all people, the oppressed, should be asked to be the better people and fight with silence? Yes. Yes, I really, really do, and when the time comes, I hope their silent screams don't fall upon the deaf ears of the Israeli government and the world at large.
    '05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2

    EV
    Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
  • badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255

    sometimes the simple truth and reality of those involved is enough to make us all wake up, either side
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    Reality in Gaza. Unreal. Shame shame shame on our society for allowing this to happen.
  • benjsbenjs Posts: 9,151
    badbrains said:

    sometimes the simple truth and reality of those involved is enough to make us all wake up, either side
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    Reality in Gaza. Unreal. Shame shame shame on our society for allowing this to happen.
    How can any human being read this with dry eyes?
    '05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2

    EV
    Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
  • eldarion75eldarion75 Posts: 2,488
    Gaza conflict: Israel rejects John Kerry peace plan
    Breaking news Continue reading the main story
    Mid-East crisis

    Israel's security cabinet has rejected a Gaza ceasefire proposal put forward by US Secretary of State John Kerry, officials say.

    Mr Kerry has been pushing for a halt to 18 days of fighting between Israel and Islamist group Hamas.

    An Israeli official told Reuters that the cabinet wanted changes to the agreement before ending the offensive.

    More than 800 Palestinians, mostly civilians, and 36 Israelis have died since the start of the conflict.


    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28494081
  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,720

    sometimes the simple truth and reality of those involved is enough to make us all wake up, either side
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    Fuck..that was stronge
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    well death toll is at 800. here is your trophy. well done israel
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    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    seriously, hasbara has invaded the forum.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255

    seriously, hasbara has invaded the forum.

    No doubt rod!
  • eldarion75eldarion75 Posts: 2,488
    can i tell my joke?

    ok

    what have Israel and pearl jam fans got in common?

    they both want all the rael for themselves




    ill get my coat
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576

    for reasons other than the obvious, it important to remember the jewish lobby is deeply in the pockets of US politicians and parties on both sides of the aisle..even if they wanted to speak out against whats happenning theyd have to tow the party line or be outcast...has any elected official in the US said anything other than the usual 'Israel has a right to defend itself' BS? i doubt it

    even Bernie Sanders voted to support the action in Gaza...pretty sure it was unanimous approval in the senate
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • eldarion75eldarion75 Posts: 2,488
    Via Trendsmap.com showing where the hashtag #ISupportGaza is being used around the world

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  • eldarion75eldarion75 Posts: 2,488
    tell me now the world is on your side israel... it really isnt..
  • badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255

    Via Trendsmap.com showing where the hashtag #ISupportGaza is being used around the world

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    Awesome! And your joke was funny =))
  • eldarion75eldarion75 Posts: 2,488
    I got screamed at on the fb group for that joke..ah well..
  • eldarion75eldarion75 Posts: 2,488
    Irishwoman Elaine Bradley is working as a human rights activist in Palestine where she sent us this report this morning.

    Elaine writes:

    Waking up I turn on my laptop to see what has happened in the while I slept. I am almost instantly hit by an image. I can’t make out if it is one body ripped in two, or two bodies, both missing a number of parts.

    By the clothes on one, I am guessing it it is a young man – jeans and a belt that my son might wear. The human remains are against a wall in a pool of blood, draped over with blood soaked sheets. The photo is taken in a hospital, and is accompanied by the bizarre scene of the twisted metal of hospital beds in the total wreckage of what was a ward.

    My friend who posted this image declares that he has a policy of not posting gruesome photos, a policy that he has now abandoned. Why? Because “This is the hospital that Israel shelled today… But the BBC felt it was better use of our license fee money to have [reporter] John Simpson show us a broken chandelier in Sderot instead.”

    Five people were killed and 70 injured in this place of healing, where men and women work, dedicating their lives to comfort and to mend other sick and broken human beings. I think of my daughter who is a nurse. Hospitals have special status, special protection under international law, as they should. Bombing a hospital is a war crime.

    And yet this is the second hospital that Israel has bombed that I am aware of in the two weeks of this onslaught, where one of the world’s most sophisticated military machines has pitted itself against a locked in, half starved civilian population.

    Where are the international community? Where are the guardians of the laws demanding that this stop? Yesterday I saw Navi Pillay, High Commissioner for Human Rights with the UN on television. It was in Arabic so I didn’t know what she said. I went to the internet and found her statement.

    The bit that jumped out and slapped me in the face was where she expressed her “concern”. Concern? I am concerned about things like the size of my phone bill and whether my cat has settled in to her new home. Concern for Gaza, where now over 570 people have been killed, 80% civilians, last count 132 of them children. Over 3,500 people injured and maimed – a 5 year old with her legs amputated, Concerned? What about outraged? Appalled? Horrified?

    The UN are concerned and the mask is off. This latest holocaust against Gaza has exposed a world where our media lie, and spin the truth. Where craven politicians will not stand against power – John Kerry saying Israeli is besieged by Hamas- do I laugh or cry? My own government repeating the zombie mantra about Israel’s right to defend itself as they watch women and children buried in the rubble of their own homes.

    And all the while Israel continues its colonisation of Palestine, settling jews from Eastern Europe and the Bronx on land that is not theirs, criminalising – labelling as terrorists the rightful owners, to make their misdeeds acceptable to a willing-to-be-appeased-just-give-us-the-right-soundbite global audience.

    Say “Hamas” often enough and no one will notice. Exposed is a world where the institutions of human rights and justice offer platitudes but no action and hold yet another emergency meeting, having never implemented the recommendations of the last report, or the one before, as to do so would “jeopardise the peace process” according to the US and Israel. The Fucking Peace Process?

    And while the UN frowns a collective bureaucratic, high salaried, important people in suits doing important things frown of concern, a friend of mine is pulling out the stops, navigating Israel’s impenetrable system of closure to get baby formula into Gaza. From the complications, it is as if he were smuggling crack cocaine inside AK47s.

    I haven’t had my coffee yet, haven’t woken up. But I swear, that I will turn my rage into action for justice. Israel cannot once again evade accountability for these crimes. And to all the institutions that have collaborated in this gross injustice, by repeating the lies or by looking the other way, you will crumble and fall. The mask is off and people know.

    We have seen that in your system human rights are not for everyone, that one life is precious and another is less than insignificant. We have seen that not all children are treasures to be cherished and childhood is not a sacred space for all children. We have seen that in your world it is ok for homes and places of worship and hospitals to become the killing zones, the tombs of innocent people. We have seen how liars and psychopaths with power are bowed down to. But justice will prevail because now we, the people know.

    Elaine Bradley.

    (AP)
  • eldarion75eldarion75 Posts: 2,488
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  • badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255

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    This guy is risking career suicide. And look, he speaks UP! Wow, mark, I'm fucken impressed. Not like Rihanna and D Howard that's for sure.
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