Jerusalem Post/Ben Red Completely Off Base In Criticism of Eddie and Pearl Jam

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  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,725
    http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/neil-young-and-crazy-horse-cancel-tel-aviv-concert-20140713


    Neil Young and Crazy Horse have canceled their upcoming concert in Tel Aviv over security concerns as the military situation in Israel escalates. The single show scheduled for the country was set to take place on July 17th in Hayarkon Park.
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    "It is with heavy hearts and deep sadness that we must cancel our one and only Israeli concert due to tensions which have rendered the event unsafe at this time," a representative for Young said in a statement. "We'll miss the opportunity to play for our fans and look forward to playing in Israel and Palestine in peace."

    Though Young had faced pressure from activists and musicians, including Roger Waters, to boycott Israel because of its treatment of Palestinians, a police spokesman told Reuters that the show had been canceled by police "in order not to put people in Gaza rocket range at unnecessary risk." Some 30,000 people had purchased tickets to the show, which would have marked Young's first performance in Israel since the 1990s.

    Young said that he will be making donations to the Louse Tillie Alpert Youth Music Center of Israel and Heartbeat, "two organizations that teach music to Palestinian and Israeli youth simultaneously by enabling them to play music together."

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  • djklambake
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    Love.

    Just love.

    The alternative doesn't make sense.

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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,598
    The longer this "controversy" goes, the more surprised I am that anyone who loves this band would be surprised by what Eddie said.
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  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,256
    edited July 2014
    JimmyV said:

    The longer this "controversy" goes, the more surprised I am that anyone who loves this band would be surprised by what Eddie said.

    Politics and religion. There is a reason you stay away from these topics at work and even with friends/family. You basically know each others' opinions but if you don't talk about them you get along, and when you do talk about them the arguing and hurt feelings start.
  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,854
    How evil of him
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,256
    MayDay10 said:

    How evil of him

    I am not sure if you are responding to my comment but I was just giving my answer to why I think people are mad even when they pretty much can guess Eddie's opinion based on history.
  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,854
    edited July 2014
    No, I had just read this below and I wasnt very clear.
    gimmesometruth27 said:

    "I personally do not want to see you, and I will erase the Facebook page calling on bringing (Pearl Jam) to Israel, but not before I expose who you really are."

  • Black Diamond
    Black Diamond Posts: 25,109
    MayDay10 said:

    No, I had just read this below and I wasnt very clear.

    gimmesometruth27 said:

    "I personally do not want to see you, and I will erase the Facebook page calling on bringing (Pearl Jam) to Israel, but not before I expose who you really are."

    He's the guy who sings Who You (Really) Are?
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  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    MayDay10 said:

    No, I had just read this below and I wasnt very clear.

    gimmesometruth27 said:

    "I personally do not want to see you, and I will erase the Facebook page calling on bringing (Pearl Jam) to Israel, but not before I expose who you really are."

    So who is the real eddie vedder?
  • Spags
    Spags Leigh-on-Sea, UK Posts: 3,057
    Why not ask the doctor DOCTOR!
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,102
    MayDay10 said:

    No, I had just read this below and I wasnt very clear.

    gimmesometruth27 said:

    "I personally do not want to see you, and I will erase the Facebook page calling on bringing (Pearl Jam) to Israel, but not before I expose who you really are."

    just to clarify, those are not my words. they were quoted from the article i posted.
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,598
    bootlegger10 said:

    JimmyV said:

    The longer this "controversy" goes, the more surprised I am that anyone who loves this band would be surprised by what Eddie said.

    Politics and religion. There is a reason you stay away from these topics at work and even with friends/family. You basically know each others' opinions but if you don't talk about them you get along, and when you do talk about them the arguing and hurt feelings start.
    Agreed. We all know what our drunk uncle and our hippie niece are going to say. When they say it we aren't taken by surprise. I think most of us who follow Pearl Jam know what Eddie Vedder is going to say on the topic of war. He has been saying similar things publicly for 20+ years. Yet many are surprised by this particular outburst.

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  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,369
    edited July 2014
    badbrains said:

    MayDay10 said:

    No, I had just read this below and I wasnt very clear.

    gimmesometruth27 said:

    "I personally do not want to see you, and I will erase the Facebook page calling on bringing (Pearl Jam) to Israel, but not before I expose who you really are."

    So who is the real eddie vedder?
    Will the real Eddie Vedder please stand up? Yes, you heard me right, sit back down, Mr. Crowe.

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  • CROJAM95
    CROJAM95 Posts: 10,835
    Howard Stern ripped Ed today...as well as Dwight Howard, Rihanna....and " that guy" in Pink Floyd ( Roger Waters) who Howard kissed his ass a few months ago when he was on the show.

    I love Howard, but his rush to judgement on this issue is a lil off-putting.

    The one common theme I see here ( bury this in AMT,etc) and there( certain media outlets condemning opinions without knowing the true essence) is that a some people dont want any light shined upon certain issues...my question is why not? This is FASCISM at its best....you dont like someones opinion....why Vilify them in a way that makes any valid points you might have on a subject become null and void? Your credibility flys out the window...what is Ed's Agenda in this mess?? to see less people loss their lives?

    the world is truly insane
  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,854
    Ed is a major shareholder and controlling partner in hugs
  • aennil
    aennil Posts: 415
    I'm a little confused. Can someone explain to me why/how US tax money goes to Israel? Eddies said that he doesn't want tax money to go to bombs, and it seems like a lot of people here concludes that means the bombs that Israel are throwing. But why would USA pay for other countries bombs?
    ...sorry, i'm not from the US, so i don't know much about how you guys use your tax money....
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,598
    aennil said:

    I'm a little confused. Can someone explain to me why/how US tax money goes to Israel? Eddies said that he doesn't want tax money to go to bombs, and it seems like a lot of people here concludes that means the bombs that Israel are throwing. But why would USA pay for other countries bombs?
    ...sorry, i'm not from the US, so i don't know much about how you guys use your tax money....

    It is truly happening. I'm from the US but I couldn't begin to explain it because I don't remotely understand it. Maybe it made sense after 1967 or in the culture of the Cold War but it certainly doesn't make sense anymore.

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  • fuck
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    aennil said:

    I'm a little confused. Can someone explain to me why/how US tax money goes to Israel? Eddies said that he doesn't want tax money to go to bombs, and it seems like a lot of people here concludes that means the bombs that Israel are throwing. But why would USA pay for other countries bombs?
    ...sorry, i'm not from the US, so i don't know much about how you guys use your tax money....

    The US gives Israel over $3 billion a year in military aid.
  • aennil
    aennil Posts: 415
    ^^
    thanks "JimmyV" and "fuck"....
    i still don't understand why, but that is a lot of money!
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,598
    Haven't seen his actual words quoted in awhile so I will repost them here (with a hat tip to @BinFrog). Days later, still not about Israel.
    BinFrog said:



    "“What the fuck? We have this many people having a peaceful time, we can have modern technology, we can reach our friends, they know what we’re thinking it. The advertisers know what we’re thinking before we’re thinking it. We have technology, all of this in our hand. But at the same time as something this positive is happening, at the same fucking time, not even that far away, dropping bombs on each other. What the fucking fuck? And I get if war is the last resort, you don’t want to be in that situation. But I swear to fucking God, there are some people out there looking for a reason to kill. They’re looking for a reason to go across borders and take over land that doesn't belong to them. They should get the fuck out, and mind their own fucking business!

    He added, “Eat, procreate, draw a painting, make some art, listen to music, fuck some more, have another baby, eat, work, eat, work, love, love, love. Everyone’s the fucking same, so why are people at war? Stop the fucking shit now! Now! Now! We don’t want to give them our money! They don’t get our taxes to drop bombs on children! No! No more!”"

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