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  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    edited August 2014
    Leather stars and bars,c'mon Drowned Im more assless chaps kinda fella.And you should know by now there is no grudges.All fair game.

    And please remember I'm in the south.When we talk about Universities its usually a reference to college football.Lol
  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    Sorry I didn't answer your question.
    I'd say I read it in an article.Or I read it in a paper .
    And know I will have to watch Idiocracy.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,663
    badbrains said:

    benjs said:

    badbrains said:

    Idris said:

    badbrains said:

    Can we all agree that Isis ISNT gonna get anywhere near America. Let's be real here. And also, the US mite as we'll go in and get rid of Isis cuz what's gonna happen is we're not gonna do anything, Isis goes on a fucked up killing spree, then we'll go in and "save" the day. So we all know the US is gonna go in, so let's just go in before Isis slaughters more innocent people. No more carnage please. The fucken world is wilding out shit!

    You want no more carnage, but also say that the U.S. Should go in, I assure you, the U.S. Is not gonna go in with Candy and cupcakes,

    its gonna be carnage whichever way. Better the U.S. Just leave, and stay away.

    The middle east will find its own way, it does not need the U.S.
    Look, I agree with a lot of your posts. But my thinking is that these dudes are fucked up no matter who caused them to form. I'm Muslim and that form of Islam ISNT what I was taught. I'll say it AGAIN, the Islam I WAS TAUGHT, taught me that any single human being who kills 1 SINGLE innocent human being will be PUNISHED by god as if that human killed ALL of HUMANITY. That shit of cutting kids heads off and killing women, NOT my Islam. That's devil shit no matter who created them. They need to be stopped. They aren't some Muslim movement, that shits NOT Islam, I don't care what shit they spew. A bunch of barbaric psychopaths hijack Islam and PRETEND to speak for ALL of us. No, not for me, and not for REAL Muslims everywhere.

    Edit- I will add, that if you're being marched into a fucken ditch and there's over 30 of you, fucken fight back, you know you're gonna die so fucken die fighting on your feet, not laying in a fucken ditch waiting to be shot. Fuck that!

    Also, if the us goes in, it SHOULDNT fucken be hard, we have fucken drones, apatchies, tanks f16, whatever the fuck we want against a small ass group of barbarians, yes US, please go in and get rid of these guys. Shouldn't be hard.
    badbrains, as a Muslim, are you in favour of US interventionism here? My knowledge of Islam is limited, but isn't the second part of that statement that for anyone who saves one person, it is as if he or she has saved all humanity? I personally love that line, with the first and second half. So beautiful.
    Ben,
    I'm in favor of saving innocent lives and if that means we have to intervene, then be it. We created this shit, the least we can do is help those people dying on the mountain whatever religion they are. I think the issue the US is having is that if they went to save these people, people around the world mite bring up Gaza and say why aren't you helping those people. Look I know why we aren't going into gaza to help them, but to sit idle and let Iraq turn into hell on earth AGAIN, makes no sense. Especially when I believe Isis can be stopped EASILY. My religion can be beautiful and is beautiful when the religion is allowed to stand on it's own without fucken barbarians hijacking it and claiming they're doing "gods" work. Not my fucken god.

    The world is super fucked up. What the fuck happened? Is this what our normal lives are gonna be. Wake up, eat, shit and sleep fucken war and misery? Aren't we all tired of this shit. Aren't we all tired of fighting amongst us let alone having war shoved down our throats everyday?

    I'm glad you like that saying Ben, it's one that I like to and hope it conquers all. Let's try to save humanity instead of killing it.
    Holy crap, I totally agree with you. :-O ;)
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,367
    PJ_Soul said:

    badbrains said:

    benjs said:

    badbrains said:

    Idris said:

    badbrains said:

    Can we all agree that Isis ISNT gonna get anywhere near America. Let's be real here. And also, the US mite as we'll go in and get rid of Isis cuz what's gonna happen is we're not gonna do anything, Isis goes on a fucked up killing spree, then we'll go in and "save" the day. So we all know the US is gonna go in, so let's just go in before Isis slaughters more innocent people. No more carnage please. The fucken world is wilding out shit!

    You want no more carnage, but also say that the U.S. Should go in, I assure you, the U.S. Is not gonna go in with Candy and cupcakes,

    its gonna be carnage whichever way. Better the U.S. Just leave, and stay away.

    The middle east will find its own way, it does not need the U.S.
    Look, I agree with a lot of your posts. But my thinking is that these dudes are fucked up no matter who caused them to form. I'm Muslim and that form of Islam ISNT what I was taught. I'll say it AGAIN, the Islam I WAS TAUGHT, taught me that any single human being who kills 1 SINGLE innocent human being will be PUNISHED by god as if that human killed ALL of HUMANITY. That shit of cutting kids heads off and killing women, NOT my Islam. That's devil shit no matter who created them. They need to be stopped. They aren't some Muslim movement, that shits NOT Islam, I don't care what shit they spew. A bunch of barbaric psychopaths hijack Islam and PRETEND to speak for ALL of us. No, not for me, and not for REAL Muslims everywhere.

    Edit- I will add, that if you're being marched into a fucken ditch and there's over 30 of you, fucken fight back, you know you're gonna die so fucken die fighting on your feet, not laying in a fucken ditch waiting to be shot. Fuck that!

    Also, if the us goes in, it SHOULDNT fucken be hard, we have fucken drones, apatchies, tanks f16, whatever the fuck we want against a small ass group of barbarians, yes US, please go in and get rid of these guys. Shouldn't be hard.
    badbrains, as a Muslim, are you in favour of US interventionism here? My knowledge of Islam is limited, but isn't the second part of that statement that for anyone who saves one person, it is as if he or she has saved all humanity? I personally love that line, with the first and second half. So beautiful.
    Ben,
    I'm in favor of saving innocent lives and if that means we have to intervene, then be it. We created this shit, the least we can do is help those people dying on the mountain whatever religion they are. I think the issue the US is having is that if they went to save these people, people around the world mite bring up Gaza and say why aren't you helping those people. Look I know why we aren't going into gaza to help them, but to sit idle and let Iraq turn into hell on earth AGAIN, makes no sense. Especially when I believe Isis can be stopped EASILY. My religion can be beautiful and is beautiful when the religion is allowed to stand on it's own without fucken barbarians hijacking it and claiming they're doing "gods" work. Not my fucken god.

    The world is super fucked up. What the fuck happened? Is this what our normal lives are gonna be. Wake up, eat, shit and sleep fucken war and misery? Aren't we all tired of this shit. Aren't we all tired of fighting amongst us let alone having war shoved down our throats everyday?

    I'm glad you like that saying Ben, it's one that I like to and hope it conquers all. Let's try to save humanity instead of killing it.
    Holy crap, I totally agree with you. :-O ;)
    That makes two of us :)
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  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    PJ_Soul said:

    badbrains said:

    benjs said:

    badbrains said:

    Idris said:

    badbrains said:

    Can we all agree that Isis ISNT gonna get anywhere near America. Let's be real here. And also, the US mite as we'll go in and get rid of Isis cuz what's gonna happen is we're not gonna do anything, Isis goes on a fucked up killing spree, then we'll go in and "save" the day. So we all know the US is gonna go in, so let's just go in before Isis slaughters more innocent people. No more carnage please. The fucken world is wilding out shit!

    You want no more carnage, but also say that the U.S. Should go in, I assure you, the U.S. Is not gonna go in with Candy and cupcakes,

    its gonna be carnage whichever way. Better the U.S. Just leave, and stay away.

    The middle east will find its own way, it does not need the U.S.
    Look, I agree with a lot of your posts. But my thinking is that these dudes are fucked up no matter who caused them to form. I'm Muslim and that form of Islam ISNT what I was taught. I'll say it AGAIN, the Islam I WAS TAUGHT, taught me that any single human being who kills 1 SINGLE innocent human being will be PUNISHED by god as if that human killed ALL of HUMANITY. That shit of cutting kids heads off and killing women, NOT my Islam. That's devil shit no matter who created them. They need to be stopped. They aren't some Muslim movement, that shits NOT Islam, I don't care what shit they spew. A bunch of barbaric psychopaths hijack Islam and PRETEND to speak for ALL of us. No, not for me, and not for REAL Muslims everywhere.

    Edit- I will add, that if you're being marched into a fucken ditch and there's over 30 of you, fucken fight back, you know you're gonna die so fucken die fighting on your feet, not laying in a fucken ditch waiting to be shot. Fuck that!

    Also, if the us goes in, it SHOULDNT fucken be hard, we have fucken drones, apatchies, tanks f16, whatever the fuck we want against a small ass group of barbarians, yes US, please go in and get rid of these guys. Shouldn't be hard.
    badbrains, as a Muslim, are you in favour of US interventionism here? My knowledge of Islam is limited, but isn't the second part of that statement that for anyone who saves one person, it is as if he or she has saved all humanity? I personally love that line, with the first and second half. So beautiful.
    Ben,
    I'm in favor of saving innocent lives and if that means we have to intervene, then be it. We created this shit, the least we can do is help those people dying on the mountain whatever religion they are. I think the issue the US is having is that if they went to save these people, people around the world mite bring up Gaza and say why aren't you helping those people. Look I know why we aren't going into gaza to help them, but to sit idle and let Iraq turn into hell on earth AGAIN, makes no sense. Especially when I believe Isis can be stopped EASILY. My religion can be beautiful and is beautiful when the religion is allowed to stand on it's own without fucken barbarians hijacking it and claiming they're doing "gods" work. Not my fucken god.

    The world is super fucked up. What the fuck happened? Is this what our normal lives are gonna be. Wake up, eat, shit and sleep fucken war and misery? Aren't we all tired of this shit. Aren't we all tired of fighting amongst us let alone having war shoved down our throats everyday?

    I'm glad you like that saying Ben, it's one that I like to and hope it conquers all. Let's try to save humanity instead of killing it.
    Holy crap, I totally agree with you. :-O ;)
    Wait, WHAT? First RR made some sense and now pjSoul agrees with me. Holyshit, wtf is going on....... ;)
  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    Is it us or you?
  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    rr165892 said:

    Is it us or you?

    Holyshit RR, I didn't think about it like that..........nah, it's u guys lol :D
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,663
    rr165892 said:

    Is it us or you?

    :))
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    isis. what a disgusting group. i have no words for what i just saw. please........... i am speechless
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • Annafalk
    Annafalk Sweden Posts: 4,004
    edited August 2014
    I am no Irak expert but I think that it's good that the Kurds (peshmerga soldiers) are getting support from the US. to fight against these Isis monsters.
    I hope more help organizations will turn up to help all the refugees? This situation is beyond horrible. Isis wants to delete all Christians and others with another religion than Islam.
    Finally my country is sending down planes with aid at least.
    Post edited by Annafalk on
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,663
    edited August 2014
    Apparent video of IS beheading James Foley, American photojournalist missing from Syria since 2012 (how fucking horrifying, and they say they have another missing American journalist and are ready to murder him too)..... Is IS trying to draw the US further in??

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28862268
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    PJ_Soul said:

    Apparent video of IS beheading James Foley, American photojournalist missing from Syria since 2012 (how fucking horrifying, and they say they have another missing American journalist and are ready to murder him too)..... Is IS trying to draw the US further in??

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28862268

    PJ_Soul said:

    Apparent video of IS beheading James Foley, American photojournalist missing from Syria since 2012 (how fucking horrifying, and they say they have another missing American journalist and are ready to murder him too)..... Is IS trying to draw the US further in??

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28862268

    It is so time to ramp this involvement up.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,663
    edited August 2014
    rr165892 said:


    PJ_Soul said:

    Apparent video of IS beheading James Foley, American photojournalist missing from Syria since 2012 (how fucking horrifying, and they say they have another missing American journalist and are ready to murder him too)..... Is IS trying to draw the US further in??

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28862268

    It is so time to ramp this involvement up.
    Agreed. I'm wondering what IS's goal is. Or am I overestimating IS in thinking they might actually have some logical goal here?
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,597
    I saw there were new posts to this thread and knew what they were about without even clicking.

    Beheading. In 2014.
    ___________________________________________

    "...I changed by not changing at all..."
  • Idris
    Idris Posts: 2,317
    PJ_Soul said:

    Apparent video of IS beheading James Foley, American photojournalist missing from Syria since 2012 (how fucking horrifying, and they say they have another missing American journalist and are ready to murder him too)..... Is IS trying to draw the US further in??

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28862268

    Probably,

    Cause they know the U.S. Is/will be fighting a losing battle as long as they (USA) continues to deal with situations by dropping bombs, and continues to support 'bad' people etc etc etc...

    Violence begets violence.
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    chadwick said:

    isis. what a disgusting group. i have no words for what i just saw. please........... i am speechless

    adding to this... after what i saw i pretty much knew those images would be in my dreams later that night & i was right. in my dream my g/f was having a baby & we named her after the woman i saw IS strangle to death.

    what a horrific ordeal. i tried to find her name but the comments are blocked on the video & i've not yet continued the search for her name. she needs remembered. someone open schools in her name or something. i will not post the link here though, you're on your own in the locating & viewing if so inclined. i've been bothered ever since, like deeply shooken up.
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    chadwick said:

    chadwick said:

    isis. what a disgusting group. i have no words for what i just saw. please........... i am speechless

    adding to this... after what i saw i pretty much knew those images would be in my dreams later that night & i was right. in my dream my g/f was having a baby & we named her after the woman i saw IS strangle to death.

    what a horrific ordeal. i tried to find her name but the comments are blocked on the video & i've not yet continued the search for her name. she needs remembered. someone open schools in her name or something. i will not post the link here though, you're on your own in the locating & viewing if so inclined. i've been bothered ever since, like deeply shooken up.
    Duuude!
  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    Idris said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Apparent video of IS beheading James Foley, American photojournalist missing from Syria since 2012 (how fucking horrifying, and they say they have another missing American journalist and are ready to murder him too)..... Is IS trying to draw the US further in??

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28862268

    Probably,

    Cause they know the U.S. Is/will be fighting a losing battle as long as they (USA) continues to deal with situations by dropping bombs, and continues to support 'bad' people etc etc etc...

    Violence begets violence.
    Come on,do you still not see the need to eliminate these fuck wads.Really Idris.They behead and again we are the bad guy.And to think your a fellow Floridian,I expected better from you.
  • Idris
    Idris Posts: 2,317
    rr165892 said:

    Idris said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Apparent video of IS beheading James Foley, American photojournalist missing from Syria since 2012 (how fucking horrifying, and they say they have another missing American journalist and are ready to murder him too)..... Is IS trying to draw the US further in??

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28862268

    Probably,

    Cause they know the U.S. Is/will be fighting a losing battle as long as they (USA) continues to deal with situations by dropping bombs, and continues to support 'bad' people etc etc etc...

    Violence begets violence.
    Come on,do you still not see the need to eliminate these fuck wads.Really Idris.They behead and again we are the bad guy.And to think your a fellow Floridian,I expected better from you.
    Yes, we are the bad guys, does that mean that they are the good guys? Surely not. (I've already stated this)

    We are destroying the lives of Iraqi kids yet to even be born, from the chemicals we have dropped, we supported a corrupt Iraqi government that led to the rise of ISIS. I don't see how we can call ourselves 'good' in any way.