gotta defend that border! how they gonna take her to the bundy ranch if she can only handle a semi-auto, she would just get laughed out of town! so sad...
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Why? They're just enjoying their freedom and the rights afforded to them by the constitution. This is par for the course in Gunsville- home of the champions.
This forum has a dozen or more gun threads with countless scenarios that, to me, fall into the pretty stupid thing to do category.
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I wouldn't let a 9 year old operate a chainsaw either.
I can't remember anyone anywhere saying that a 9 year old should be able to have a full auto Uzi.
But go ahead and keep making things up that make no sense, it's par for the course for the anti-gun crowd.
I wouldn't let a 9 year old operate a chainsaw either.
I can't remember anyone anywhere saying that a 9 year old should be able to have a full auto Uzi.
But go ahead and keep making things up that make no sense, it's par for the course for the anti-gun crowd.
Do you want the sense? Do you want sense? You can't handle the sense! (A Few Good Men reference)
The USA is the most armed country in the world. The USA features 97 guns per 100 people. This is the highest ownership rate in the world- by far. The second most armed country is Serbia at 58.2 guns per 100 people. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_guns_per_capita_by_country
What's my point? My point is that if there was an epidemic of chainsaw murders in your country, you can safely bet that there would be laws implemented to curb the trend. Sure, chainsaw enthusiasts would be upset ("I wanna cut shit down! Why is my freedom compromised because some idiots are chopping people? I'm a good chainsaw owner. My chainsaw has never cut anybody"); however, the chainsaw industry is not entrenched within government and society enough to combat the most basic, logical, common sense approach to dealing with the problem as it manifests itself.
You can defend guns all you want, but the bottom line is it would be asinine to argue against the most simple and revealing correlation between your gun ownership rates and the corresponding gun death rates.
So, assuming you are not asinine, it would appear you want your guns and you are prepared to accept the deaths that come with them.
I wouldn't let a 9 year old operate a chainsaw either.
I can't remember anyone anywhere saying that a 9 year old should be able to have a full auto Uzi.
But go ahead and keep making things up that make no sense, it's par for the course for the anti-gun crowd.
I think what this story means to me is that there are stupid people like this girls parents. people who believe that gun ownership is just a right but not a responsibility.
I wouldn't let a 9 year old operate a chainsaw either.
I can't remember anyone anywhere saying that a 9 year old should be able to have a full auto Uzi.
But go ahead and keep making things up that make no sense, it's par for the course for the anti-gun crowd.
I agree with you on this one-- that this 9 year old story doesnt not help with anti-gun crowd, because its just stupid and irresponsible on too many accounts. It shouldve never happened of course. However, it does certainly add to the oh shit we have too many guns and too many stupid people argument, which simply equates to more people killing people on accident with guns. I'm not arguing anything other than (my usual) that we've gone too far-- the gun culture-- and there's no turning back. Bleak outlook for both sides in my opinion.
But wait. The NRA is fully in support of 9 year olds or children of any age being trained with any kind of firearm. It may sound stupid to us, but from what I know, the gun advocates stand behind what those parents and little girl were doing there that day.
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But wait. The NRA is fully in support of 9 year olds or children of any age being trained with any kind of firearm. It may sound stupid to us, but from what I know, the gun advocates stand behind what those parents and little girl were doing there that day.
yuppers, I want my guns and I accept the deaths that come with them. just like I accept the deaths that come with cars, alcohol, tobacco, steak knives, etc. as far as the little girl is concerned, I point my finger at the instructor. should have known the recoil power of the gun and never put it in her hands in the first place. parents are probably gun ignorant and left it to the instructor to make all the decisions.
if you think what I believe is stupid, bizarre, ridiculous or outrageous.....it's ok, I think I had a brain tumor when I wrote that.
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But wait. The NRA is fully in support of 9 year olds or children of any age being trained with any kind of firearm. It may sound stupid to us, but from what I know, the gun advocates stand behind what those parents and little girl were doing there that day.
According to the video with the first post on this shooting, the range owner will allow five year olds to fire 22's. As a Mom, not on my watch. And this whole tragedy makes me want to throw up. That little girl will never, ever get over this.
And the sun it may be shining . . . but there's an ocean in my eyes
But wait. The NRA is fully in support of 9 year olds or children of any age being trained with any kind of firearm. It may sound stupid to us, but from what I know, the gun advocates stand behind what those parents and little girl were doing there that day.
But wait. The NRA is fully in support of 9 year olds or children of any age being trained with any kind of firearm. It may sound stupid to us, but from what I know, the gun advocates stand behind what those parents and little girl were doing there that day.
I trained my girlfriend for two hours straight with the proper handling of a firearm before I'd let her load it.
the problem i have is that story tends to make me believe that there are some people who don't train people well and that this can lead to bigger issues.
Just a simple question as I don't know. are there strict guild lines for training people on guns or is it different depending on the trainer?
But wait. The NRA is fully in support of 9 year olds or children of any age being trained with any kind of firearm. It may sound stupid to us, but from what I know, the gun advocates stand behind what those parents and little girl were doing there that day.
yuppers, I want my guns and I accept the deaths that come with them. just like I accept the deaths that come with cars, alcohol, tobacco, steak knives, etc. as far as the little girl is concerned, I point my finger at the instructor. should have known the recoil power of the gun and never put it in her hands in the first place. parents are probably gun ignorant and left it to the instructor to make all the decisions.
I would have to say I agree with this statement the most. In the professional world, there are inherent risks that are risk assessed and control measures are put in place to mitigate the risks. Examples are ear plugs, safety glasses, a defined shooting position, etc.. Being a professional business and having professional instructors, it should have been known the recoil of that firearm and the force necessary to control it. It looks like the instructor used a technique to help the child by putting his left hand underneath the firearm and his right hand behind the child. I would have imagined if given a hypothetical situation, that there would have been additional safegaurds in place. Im not here to give answers as to what those safegaurds should be as I am not a professional in that field, but even I know that more could have been in place to prevent this tragedy. Condolences to this mans family, may he rest in peace, and pray that this young girl can overcome this.
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But wait. The NRA is fully in support of 9 year olds or children of any age being trained with any kind of firearm. It may sound stupid to us, but from what I know, the gun advocates stand behind what those parents and little girl were doing there that day.
yuppers, I want my guns and I accept the deaths that come with them. just like I accept the deaths that come with cars, alcohol, tobacco, steak knives, etc. as far as the little girl is concerned, I point my finger at the instructor. should have known the recoil power of the gun and never put it in her hands in the first place. parents are probably gun ignorant and left it to the instructor to make all the decisions.
Problem is you've reduced the quality of life for others due to your irrational fears.
There's no proof to that either. Chances are you've been right next to someone who has carried concealed and you never knew it.
Oh I know...in my neck of the woods surely daily. But that doesn't diminish the fact that if we had gun laws such as they do in Europe we'd have better lifestyle and reduced chance of being shot.
Sad story all around who knows how the kid will fare in life after this event , how do the parents look at themselves in the mirror and say yeah we thought it was a good idea ... No matter how you paint it the whole gun culture just gives me such a bad taste for how that mentality makes people think ....In other words i'd rather not mingle with gun enthusiast at all ....
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the better question is how does a 9 year benefit anything from a gun?
so sad...
This forum has a dozen or more gun threads with countless scenarios that, to me, fall into the pretty stupid thing to do category.
I can't remember anyone anywhere saying that a 9 year old should be able to have a full auto Uzi.
But go ahead and keep making things up that make no sense, it's par for the course for the anti-gun crowd.
The USA is the most armed country in the world. The USA features 97 guns per 100 people. This is the highest ownership rate in the world- by far. The second most armed country is Serbia at 58.2 guns per 100 people.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_guns_per_capita_by_country
In 2013, the USA lost 30 people a day to gun violence.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/31/president-obama-gun-control-push
But that doesn't include all the accidents and suicides. That rate, per capita, is 10.3 per 100,000. For comparison's sakes, Germany has 1.24 per 100,000 and Canada has 2.38 per 100,000.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate
What's my point? My point is that if there was an epidemic of chainsaw murders in your country, you can safely bet that there would be laws implemented to curb the trend. Sure, chainsaw enthusiasts would be upset ("I wanna cut shit down! Why is my freedom compromised because some idiots are chopping people? I'm a good chainsaw owner. My chainsaw has never cut anybody"); however, the chainsaw industry is not entrenched within government and society enough to combat the most basic, logical, common sense approach to dealing with the problem as it manifests itself.
You can defend guns all you want, but the bottom line is it would be asinine to argue against the most simple and revealing correlation between your gun ownership rates and the corresponding gun death rates.
So, assuming you are not asinine, it would appear you want your guns and you are prepared to accept the deaths that come with them.
I trained my girlfriend for two hours straight with the proper handling of a firearm before I'd let her load it.
However, it does certainly add to the oh shit we have too many guns and too many stupid people argument, which simply equates to more people killing people on accident with guns. I'm not arguing anything other than (my usual) that we've gone too far-- the gun culture-- and there's no turning back. Bleak outlook for both sides in my opinion.
as far as the little girl is concerned, I point my finger at the instructor. should have known the recoil power of the gun and never put it in her hands in the first place. parents are probably gun ignorant and left it to the instructor to make all the decisions.
Please provide a link.
Your statement said any age, any firearm. That link doesn't back up your statement.
Just a simple question as I don't know. are there strict guild lines for training people on guns or is it different depending on the trainer?
And here it seems that they don't mind a 9 year old playing with an Uzi... they just don't want any wimpy instructors helping them do it. http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2014/08/27/nra-calls-for-tougher-gun-instructors/
Being a professional business and having professional instructors, it should have been known the recoil of that firearm and the force necessary to control it. It looks like the instructor used a technique to help the child by putting his left hand underneath the firearm and his right hand behind the child. I would have imagined if given a hypothetical situation, that there would have been additional safegaurds in place. Im not here to give answers as to what those safegaurds should be as I am not a professional in that field, but even I know that more could have been in place to prevent this tragedy. Condolences to this mans family, may he rest in peace, and pray that this young girl can overcome this.
This is great. You just used a parody site to support your case.
You win!
Freedom to bear arms!
Freedom to buy any type of arm!
Freedom to have large clips!
Freedom from gun registration!
Freedom to carrying a gun –OPENLY!
Freedom!!!!!
But is this really freedom?
No its not…..its living in fear……now living in Switzerland, or Germany, or other Western European countries…now that’s Freedom.
But No….not here…we have minorities….oooooooh boogey men…. And we have too many guns already so fuck it…
So more guns!
Bigger guns!!!
Larger caliber!!!
More FOX and NRA and Smith and Wesson and Glock
…and taking 9 year olds to the fkn gun range to shoot Uzi’s for FUN!
Yeah let Freedom Ring…..
Woo Hoo Freedom……shoot em up.
oh and lets not forget…God Bless America.
There isn't a person here trying to say that it was a smart decision. Who are you trying to convince?
No matter how you paint it the whole gun culture just gives me such a bad taste for how that mentality makes people think ....In other words i'd rather not mingle with gun enthusiast at all ....
A gun? That's funny.
Anyway we appreciate your concern, but don't worry we don't need others to tell us what's good for us. We have a handle on that.