America's Gun Violence
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post a link.....Halifax2TheMax said:
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It was in the meme. “Acquired one anyway.” Guns don’t grow on trees. They come from “responsible” gun owners.mickeyrat said:
post a link.....Halifax2TheMax said:09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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This is such a dumb tired argument you make. The vaaaaaast majority of gun owners are responsible. Post a link.Halifax2TheMax said:
It was in the meme. “Acquired one anyway.” Guns don’t grow on trees. They come from “responsible” gun owners.mickeyrat said:
post a link.....Halifax2TheMax said:
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I thought I read he was ex fbi.mickeyrat said:mcgruff10 said:
But a good guy with a gun saved a hell of a lot of people in this particular case.oftenreading said:How surprising that misinformation was used to propel a pro-gun agenda.
The good guy with a gun idea is a comforting fairy tale for gun fans, but like most areas of life, putting your faith in fairy tales prevents any progress toward solutions in the real world, where hard, cold data tells a different story.firearms instructor. fired once.being an instructor suggests a high degree of competence and proficiency.71 yrs old too, suggests a degree of patience in such a situation. who knows what his background is beyond this that likely contributed to his success at killing this guy .can we say your average citizen/owner/concealed carry permit holder would be as competent?I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
Halifax2TheMax said:
It was in the meme. “Acquired one anyway.” Guns don’t grow on trees. They come from “responsible” gun owners.mickeyrat said:
post a link.....Halifax2TheMax said:oh. we're relying on memes for our facts now are we?
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You want me to post a link to the meme that McGruff posted where it states, “acquired one anyway?” I didn’t post the meme. McGruff did.mickeyrat said:Halifax2TheMax said:
It was in the meme. “Acquired one anyway.” Guns don’t grow on trees. They come from “responsible” gun owners.mickeyrat said:
post a link.....Halifax2TheMax said:oh. we're relying on memes for our facts now are we?09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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and I guess I assumed the article I posted went all the way to debunking said meme.... guess not.Halifax2TheMax said:
You want me to post a link to the meme that McGruff posted where it states, “acquired one anyway?” I didn’t post the meme. McGruff did.mickeyrat said:Halifax2TheMax said:
It was in the meme. “Acquired one anyway.” Guns don’t grow on trees. They come from “responsible” gun owners.mickeyrat said:
post a link.....Halifax2TheMax said:oh. we're relying on memes for our facts now are we?
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A circumstance that, the vast majority of the time is at best neutral and at worst inflames the whole situation, and very rarely is of benefit, is a pretty poor one on which to base policy.mcgruff10 said:
But a good guy with a gun saved a hell of a lot of people in this particular case.oftenreading said:How surprising that misinformation was used to propel a pro-gun agenda.
The good guy with a gun idea is a comforting fairy tale for gun fans, but like most areas of life, putting your faith in fairy tales prevents any progress toward solutions in the real world, where hard, cold data tells a different story.my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
If the “vast majority” of gun owners are “responsible,” how is it that so many people who shouldn’t have them, get them, and why does the NRA and repubs protect those “responsible” gun owners from being held accountable?mcgruff10 said:
This is such a dumb tired argument you make. The vaaaaaast majority of gun owners are responsible. Post a link.Halifax2TheMax said:
It was in the meme. “Acquired one anyway.” Guns don’t grow on trees. They come from “responsible” gun owners.mickeyrat said:
post a link.....Halifax2TheMax said:09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Is it in dispute that he acquired a gun? He had it in his hands, did he not. And given that, the system broke down at some point and a responsible owner, whether privately or a retailer, acted irresponsibly.mickeyrat said:Halifax2TheMax said:
It was in the meme. “Acquired one anyway.” Guns don’t grow on trees. They come from “responsible” gun owners.mickeyrat said:
post a link.....Halifax2TheMax said:oh. we're relying on memes for our facts now are we?my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
Well this time it was definitely a benefit. All I know is, if this event happens in N.J. or New York then we are mourning a hell of a lot more people today.oftenreading said:
A circumstance that, the vast majority of the time is at best neutral and at worst inflames the whole situation, and very rarely is of benefit, is a pretty poor one on which to base policy.mcgruff10 said:
But a good guy with a gun saved a hell of a lot of people in this particular case.oftenreading said:How surprising that misinformation was used to propel a pro-gun agenda.
The good guy with a gun idea is a comforting fairy tale for gun fans, but like most areas of life, putting your faith in fairy tales prevents any progress toward solutions in the real world, where hard, cold data tells a different story.I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
while it hasnt been said one way or another, it seems he himself purchased this shotgun legally.oftenreading said:
Is it in dispute that he acquired a gun? He had it in his hands, did he not. And given that, the system broke down at some point and a responsible owner, whether privately or a retailer, acted irresponsibly.mickeyrat said:Halifax2TheMax said:
It was in the meme. “Acquired one anyway.” Guns don’t grow on trees. They come from “responsible” gun owners.mickeyrat said:
post a link.....Halifax2TheMax said:oh. we're relying on memes for our facts now are we?
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What is your point of responsible until they are not? Who cares? Every criminal was responsible at one time until they weren’t.I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0
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Which is crazy to me. No way this guy should have been able to purchase a firearm.mickeyrat said:
while it hasnt been said one way or another, it seems he himself purchased this shotgun legally.oftenreading said:
Is it in dispute that he acquired a gun? He had it in his hands, did he not. And given that, the system broke down at some point and a responsible owner, whether privately or a retailer, acted irresponsibly.mickeyrat said:Halifax2TheMax said:
It was in the meme. “Acquired one anyway.” Guns don’t grow on trees. They come from “responsible” gun owners.mickeyrat said:
post a link.....Halifax2TheMax said:oh. we're relying on memes for our facts now are we?
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Every gun begins as a legal gun and every legal gun owner begins as a “responsible” gun owner. You said so yourself. Now, when that “responsible” gun owner is irresponsible, rarely are they held accountable, unless they’re the actual trigger person and are caught or killed. I’ll ask you again, if “the vast majority” of gun owners are responsible, how is it that so many people who shouldn’t have guns, have them or get them?mcgruff10 said:What is your point of responsible until they are not? Who cares? Every criminal was responsible at one time until they weren’t.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Amazon?Halifax2TheMax said:
Every gun begins as a legal gun and every legal gun owner begins as a “responsible” gun owner. You said so yourself. Now, when that “responsible” gun owner is irresponsible, rarely are they held accountable, unless they’re the actual trigger person and are caught or killed. I’ll ask you again, if “the vast majority” of gun owners are responsible, how is it that so many people who shouldn’t have guns, have them or get them?mcgruff10 said:What is your point of responsible until they are not? Who cares? Every criminal was responsible at one time until they weren’t.I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
Which in itself suggests problems with the system of acquisition, given his history.mickeyrat said:
while it hasnt been said one way or another, it seems he himself purchased this shotgun legally.oftenreading said:
Is it in dispute that he acquired a gun? He had it in his hands, did he not. And given that, the system broke down at some point and a responsible owner, whether privately or a retailer, acted irresponsibly.mickeyrat said:Halifax2TheMax said:
It was in the meme. “Acquired one anyway.” Guns don’t grow on trees. They come from “responsible” gun owners.mickeyrat said:
post a link.....Halifax2TheMax said:oh. we're relying on memes for our facts now are we?
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Well, somehow survived 2019 without a gun. I do not know how I did it. Was it dumb luck that I survived? Somehow I was able to have hundreds of meals without shooting an animal for meat. I went to sleep 364 nights (worked one all nighter) and never once felt the urge to reach to the drawer beside the bed because I heard a noise. I am nervous about 2020. Even though I have had 38 successful years of surviving without a gun, I feel like my luck will run out.Oh wait, I realized why I don’t have a gun. I am not a scared little boy in a grown up man’s body.0
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Ahhh, the great state of Tejas and their “responsible” gun owners. What a state, yeee haaaaw!
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/01/us/new-years-eve-celebratory-gunfire-death-texas/index.html
09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Try again.mcgruff10 said:
Amazon?Halifax2TheMax said:
Every gun begins as a legal gun and every legal gun owner begins as a “responsible” gun owner. You said so yourself. Now, when that “responsible” gun owner is irresponsible, rarely are they held accountable, unless they’re the actual trigger person and are caught or killed. I’ll ask you again, if “the vast majority” of gun owners are responsible, how is it that so many people who shouldn’t have guns, have them or get them?mcgruff10 said:What is your point of responsible until they are not? Who cares? Every criminal was responsible at one time until they weren’t.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/06/tech/google-amazon-gun-related-shopping-results/index.html
09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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