America's Gun Violence

Halifax2TheMax

mickeyrat said:

oftenreading said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Another “responsible” gun owner. 2 year old should have been armed. That’ll learn ‘em.

https://www.boston.com/news/national-news/2019/06/13/officials-5-year-old-shoots-toddler-in-head-uncle-charged

Did you read the story?

The person being charged stole the gun.

Exactly. Why wasn't the gun secured by the responsible owner in such a way that it couldn't be easily stolen in a B&E?

I'd like info on that part of it.  was the person he stole it from the legal owner?

“Every gun starts out legal and every gun owner starts out ‘responsible,’” so I’ve been admonished.

tempo_n_groove

oftenreading said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Another “responsible” gun owner. 2 year old should have been armed. That’ll learn ‘em.

https://www.boston.com/news/national-news/2019/06/13/officials-5-year-old-shoots-toddler-in-head-uncle-charged

Did you read the story?

The person being charged stole the gun.

Exactly. Why wasn't the gun secured by the responsible owner in such a way that it couldn't be easily stolen in a B&E?

mickeyrat said:

oftenreading said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Another “responsible” gun owner. 2 year old should have been armed. That’ll learn ‘em.

https://www.boston.com/news/national-news/2019/06/13/officials-5-year-old-shoots-toddler-in-head-uncle-charged

Did you read the story?

The person being charged stole the gun.

Exactly. Why wasn't the gun secured by the responsible owner in such a way that it couldn't be easily stolen in a B&E?

I'd like info on that part of it.  was the person he stole it from the legal owner?

The original owner of the gun, given the circustance as to how it was stolen, should also be charged but I'm sure that wasn't the angle Hfax was "shooting" for.

I'm here all day people.

oftenreading

tempo_n_groove said:

oftenreading said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Another “responsible” gun owner. 2 year old should have been armed. That’ll learn ‘em.

https://www.boston.com/news/national-news/2019/06/13/officials-5-year-old-shoots-toddler-in-head-uncle-charged

Did you read the story?

The person being charged stole the gun.

Exactly. Why wasn't the gun secured by the responsible owner in such a way that it couldn't be easily stolen in a B&E?

mickeyrat said:

oftenreading said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Another “responsible” gun owner. 2 year old should have been armed. That’ll learn ‘em.

https://www.boston.com/news/national-news/2019/06/13/officials-5-year-old-shoots-toddler-in-head-uncle-charged

Did you read the story?

The person being charged stole the gun.

Exactly. Why wasn't the gun secured by the responsible owner in such a way that it couldn't be easily stolen in a B&E?

I'd like info on that part of it.  was the person he stole it from the legal owner?

The original owner of the gun, given the circustance as to how it was stolen, should also be charged but I'm sure that wasn't the angle Hfax was "shooting" for.

I'm here all day people.

What basis do you have to be “sure”?

Halifax2TheMax

tempo_n_groove said:

oftenreading said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Another “responsible” gun owner. 2 year old should have been armed. That’ll learn ‘em.

https://www.boston.com/news/national-news/2019/06/13/officials-5-year-old-shoots-toddler-in-head-uncle-charged

Did you read the story?

The person being charged stole the gun.

Exactly. Why wasn't the gun secured by the responsible owner in such a way that it couldn't be easily stolen in a B&E?

mickeyrat said:

oftenreading said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Another “responsible” gun owner. 2 year old should have been armed. That’ll learn ‘em.

https://www.boston.com/news/national-news/2019/06/13/officials-5-year-old-shoots-toddler-in-head-uncle-charged

Did you read the story?

The person being charged stole the gun.

Exactly. Why wasn't the gun secured by the responsible owner in such a way that it couldn't be easily stolen in a B&E?

I'd like info on that part of it.  was the person he stole it from the legal owner?

The original owner of the gun, given the circustance as to how it was stolen, should also be charged but I'm sure that wasn't the angle Hfax was "shooting" for.

I'm here all day people.

Absolutely should be charged. Maybe 5 years in prison for their carelessness would school gun owners on being “responsible.”

tempo_n_groove

oftenreading said:

tempo_n_groove said:

oftenreading said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Another “responsible” gun owner. 2 year old should have been armed. That’ll learn ‘em.

https://www.boston.com/news/national-news/2019/06/13/officials-5-year-old-shoots-toddler-in-head-uncle-charged

Did you read the story?

The person being charged stole the gun.

Exactly. Why wasn't the gun secured by the responsible owner in such a way that it couldn't be easily stolen in a B&E?

mickeyrat said:

oftenreading said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Another “responsible” gun owner. 2 year old should have been armed. That’ll learn ‘em.

https://www.boston.com/news/national-news/2019/06/13/officials-5-year-old-shoots-toddler-in-head-uncle-charged

Did you read the story?

The person being charged stole the gun.

Exactly. Why wasn't the gun secured by the responsible owner in such a way that it couldn't be easily stolen in a B&E?

I'd like info on that part of it.  was the person he stole it from the legal owner?

The original owner of the gun, given the circustance as to how it was stolen, should also be charged but I'm sure that wasn't the angle Hfax was "shooting" for.

I'm here all day people.

What basis do you have to be “sure”?

You could ask him if it behooves you.

tempo_n_groove

Halifax2TheMax said:

tempo_n_groove said:

oftenreading said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Another “responsible” gun owner. 2 year old should have been armed. That’ll learn ‘em.

https://www.boston.com/news/national-news/2019/06/13/officials-5-year-old-shoots-toddler-in-head-uncle-charged

Did you read the story?

The person being charged stole the gun.

Exactly. Why wasn't the gun secured by the responsible owner in such a way that it couldn't be easily stolen in a B&E?

mickeyrat said:

oftenreading said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Another “responsible” gun owner. 2 year old should have been armed. That’ll learn ‘em.

https://www.boston.com/news/national-news/2019/06/13/officials-5-year-old-shoots-toddler-in-head-uncle-charged

Did you read the story?

The person being charged stole the gun.

Exactly. Why wasn't the gun secured by the responsible owner in such a way that it couldn't be easily stolen in a B&E?

I'd like info on that part of it.  was the person he stole it from the legal owner?

The original owner of the gun, given the circustance as to how it was stolen, should also be charged but I'm sure that wasn't the angle Hfax was "shooting" for.

I'm here all day people.

Absolutely should be charged. Maybe 5 years in prison for their carelessness would school gun owners on being “responsible.”

I'm not against that at all, what I am against is you calling irresponsible people responsible gun owners.

You don't read about "responsible" gun owners, I know it would go against your whole train of thought which I know will never change.

oftenreading

tempo_n_groove said:

oftenreading said:

tempo_n_groove said:

oftenreading said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Another “responsible” gun owner. 2 year old should have been armed. That’ll learn ‘em.

https://www.boston.com/news/national-news/2019/06/13/officials-5-year-old-shoots-toddler-in-head-uncle-charged

Did you read the story?

The person being charged stole the gun.

Exactly. Why wasn't the gun secured by the responsible owner in such a way that it couldn't be easily stolen in a B&E?

mickeyrat said:

oftenreading said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Another “responsible” gun owner. 2 year old should have been armed. That’ll learn ‘em.

https://www.boston.com/news/national-news/2019/06/13/officials-5-year-old-shoots-toddler-in-head-uncle-charged

Did you read the story?

The person being charged stole the gun.

Exactly. Why wasn't the gun secured by the responsible owner in such a way that it couldn't be easily stolen in a B&E?

I'd like info on that part of it.  was the person he stole it from the legal owner?

The original owner of the gun, given the circustance as to how it was stolen, should also be charged but I'm sure that wasn't the angle Hfax was "shooting" for.

I'm here all day people.

What basis do you have to be “sure”?

You could ask him if it behooves you.

I’m asking you why you’re sure. Halifax has already spoken many times out in favour of secure gun storage and holding responsible people who don’t secure their guns. 
 

tempo_n_groove

oftenreading said:

tempo_n_groove said:

oftenreading said:

tempo_n_groove said:

oftenreading said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Another “responsible” gun owner. 2 year old should have been armed. That’ll learn ‘em.

https://www.boston.com/news/national-news/2019/06/13/officials-5-year-old-shoots-toddler-in-head-uncle-charged

Did you read the story?

The person being charged stole the gun.

Exactly. Why wasn't the gun secured by the responsible owner in such a way that it couldn't be easily stolen in a B&E?

mickeyrat said:

oftenreading said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Another “responsible” gun owner. 2 year old should have been armed. That’ll learn ‘em.

https://www.boston.com/news/national-news/2019/06/13/officials-5-year-old-shoots-toddler-in-head-uncle-charged

Did you read the story?

The person being charged stole the gun.

Exactly. Why wasn't the gun secured by the responsible owner in such a way that it couldn't be easily stolen in a B&E?

I'd like info on that part of it.  was the person he stole it from the legal owner?

The original owner of the gun, given the circustance as to how it was stolen, should also be charged but I'm sure that wasn't the angle Hfax was "shooting" for.

I'm here all day people.

What basis do you have to be “sure”?

You could ask him if it behooves you.

I’m asking you why you’re sure. Halifax has already spoken many times out in favour of secure gun storage and holding responsible people who don’t secure their guns. 
 

Last time I'm biting on this, it's tiring that I'm the only one that sees it like this.

He referred that the 2yo should have been armed and the owner was responsible.  The stories always go that a gun owner was careless with their gun, kid finds it and shoots self or someone, which is exactly what happened only the gun owner in the story wasn't the actual owner, it was stolen so he is being charged with reckless conduct..

I'll ask if he read any farther than this.
"Authorities say a 5-year-old shot a 2-year-old sibling at a Georgia home while playing with a gun and now the children’s uncle has been charged."

Halifax2TheMax

tempo_n_groove said:

oftenreading said:

tempo_n_groove said:

oftenreading said:

tempo_n_groove said:

oftenreading said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Another “responsible” gun owner. 2 year old should have been armed. That’ll learn ‘em.

https://www.boston.com/news/national-news/2019/06/13/officials-5-year-old-shoots-toddler-in-head-uncle-charged

Did you read the story?

The person being charged stole the gun.

Exactly. Why wasn't the gun secured by the responsible owner in such a way that it couldn't be easily stolen in a B&E?

mickeyrat said:

oftenreading said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Another “responsible” gun owner. 2 year old should have been armed. That’ll learn ‘em.

https://www.boston.com/news/national-news/2019/06/13/officials-5-year-old-shoots-toddler-in-head-uncle-charged

Did you read the story?

The person being charged stole the gun.

Exactly. Why wasn't the gun secured by the responsible owner in such a way that it couldn't be easily stolen in a B&E?

I'd like info on that part of it.  was the person he stole it from the legal owner?

The original owner of the gun, given the circustance as to how it was stolen, should also be charged but I'm sure that wasn't the angle Hfax was "shooting" for.

I'm here all day people.

What basis do you have to be “sure”?

You could ask him if it behooves you.

I’m asking you why you’re sure. Halifax has already spoken many times out in favour of secure gun storage and holding responsible people who don’t secure their guns. 
 

Last time I'm biting on this, it's tiring that I'm the only one that sees it like this.

He referred that the 2yo should have been armed and the owner was responsible.  The stories always go that a gun owner was careless with their gun, kid finds it and shoots self or someone, which is exactly what happened only the gun owner in the story wasn't the actual owner, it was stolen so he is being charged with reckless conduct..

I'll ask if he read any farther than this.
"Authorities say a 5-year-old shot a 2-year-old sibling at a Georgia home while playing with a gun and now the children’s uncle has been charged."

So, the gun was stolen, Did the person who was “responsible” originally, the original “responsible” gun owner legally and “responsibly” transfer or secure the weapon? Did they report it stolen? Did they even know it was stolen? If it was properly secured, how was it stolen? If they didn’t do anything to prevent it from being stolen, as a “responsible” gun owner, they should be held criminally and civilly liable. With “rights” come “responsibilities” and it seems to me that gun owners are rarely held accountable for their “responsible” actions. It’s always a "tragedy" or they’ve "suffered enough." Fuck that, throw their “responsible” asses in jail. Maybe in a few generations it’ll change but then again you can’t fix stupid. I'm tired of kids being senselessly shot because "responsible" gun owners can't seem to be "responsible" and when their irresponsible, they don't seem to suffer any consequences.

And yea, I read past what you asked:

Jones County Sheriff’s Captain Jimmy Black says the gun was stolen during a burglary about two weeks ago.

Is this "responsible" gun owner being charged for failing to secure their weapon or did Darius us a blow torch to cut into their gun safe? Maybe carried the whole thing out of the house? Or maybe Georgia doesn't require you to secure your fire arms and if they do, they don't prosecute?

oftenreading

tempo_n_groove said:

oftenreading said:

tempo_n_groove said:

oftenreading said:

tempo_n_groove said:

oftenreading said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Another “responsible” gun owner. 2 year old should have been armed. That’ll learn ‘em.

https://www.boston.com/news/national-news/2019/06/13/officials-5-year-old-shoots-toddler-in-head-uncle-charged

Did you read the story?

The person being charged stole the gun.

Exactly. Why wasn't the gun secured by the responsible owner in such a way that it couldn't be easily stolen in a B&E?

mickeyrat said:

oftenreading said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Another “responsible” gun owner. 2 year old should have been armed. That’ll learn ‘em.

https://www.boston.com/news/national-news/2019/06/13/officials-5-year-old-shoots-toddler-in-head-uncle-charged

Did you read the story?

The person being charged stole the gun.

Exactly. Why wasn't the gun secured by the responsible owner in such a way that it couldn't be easily stolen in a B&E?

I'd like info on that part of it.  was the person he stole it from the legal owner?

The original owner of the gun, given the circustance as to how it was stolen, should also be charged but I'm sure that wasn't the angle Hfax was "shooting" for.

I'm here all day people.

What basis do you have to be “sure”?

You could ask him if it behooves you.

I’m asking you why you’re sure. Halifax has already spoken many times out in favour of secure gun storage and holding responsible people who don’t secure their guns. 
 

Last time I'm biting on this, it's tiring that I'm the only one that sees it like this.

He referred that the 2yo should have been armed and the owner was responsible.  The stories always go that a gun owner was careless with their gun, kid finds it and shoots self or someone, which is exactly what happened only the gun owner in the story wasn't the actual owner, it was stolen so he is being charged with reckless conduct..

I'll ask if he read any farther than this.
"Authorities say a 5-year-old shot a 2-year-old sibling at a Georgia home while playing with a gun and now the children’s uncle has been charged."

You’ve been making a lot of assumptions about what other people think and read. Maybe that’s why it’s tiring. 
 

tempo_n_groove

Halifax2TheMax said:

tempo_n_groove said:

oftenreading said:

tempo_n_groove said:

oftenreading said:

tempo_n_groove said:

oftenreading said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Another “responsible” gun owner. 2 year old should have been armed. That’ll learn ‘em.

https://www.boston.com/news/national-news/2019/06/13/officials-5-year-old-shoots-toddler-in-head-uncle-charged

Did you read the story?

The person being charged stole the gun.

Exactly. Why wasn't the gun secured by the responsible owner in such a way that it couldn't be easily stolen in a B&E?

mickeyrat said:

oftenreading said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Another “responsible” gun owner. 2 year old should have been armed. That’ll learn ‘em.

https://www.boston.com/news/national-news/2019/06/13/officials-5-year-old-shoots-toddler-in-head-uncle-charged

Did you read the story?

The person being charged stole the gun.

Exactly. Why wasn't the gun secured by the responsible owner in such a way that it couldn't be easily stolen in a B&E?

I'd like info on that part of it.  was the person he stole it from the legal owner?

The original owner of the gun, given the circustance as to how it was stolen, should also be charged but I'm sure that wasn't the angle Hfax was "shooting" for.

I'm here all day people.

What basis do you have to be “sure”?

You could ask him if it behooves you.

I’m asking you why you’re sure. Halifax has already spoken many times out in favour of secure gun storage and holding responsible people who don’t secure their guns. 
 

Last time I'm biting on this, it's tiring that I'm the only one that sees it like this.

He referred that the 2yo should have been armed and the owner was responsible.  The stories always go that a gun owner was careless with their gun, kid finds it and shoots self or someone, which is exactly what happened only the gun owner in the story wasn't the actual owner, it was stolen so he is being charged with reckless conduct..

I'll ask if he read any farther than this.
"Authorities say a 5-year-old shot a 2-year-old sibling at a Georgia home while playing with a gun and now the children’s uncle has been charged."

So, the gun was stolen, Did the person who was “responsible” originally, the original “responsible” gun owner legally and “responsibly” transfer or secure the weapon? Did they report it stolen? Did they even know it was stolen? If it was properly secured, how was it stolen? If they didn’t do anything to prevent it from being stolen, as a “responsible” gun owner, they should be held criminally and civilly liable. With “rights” come “responsibilities” and it seems to me that gun owners are rarely held accountable for their “responsible” actions. It’s always a "tragedy" or they’ve "suffered enough." Fuck that, throw their “responsible” asses in jail. Maybe in a few generations it’ll change but then again you can’t fix stupid. I'm tired of kids being senselessly shot because "responsible" gun owners can't seem to be "responsible" and when their irresponsible, they don't seem to suffer any consequences.

And yea, I read past what you asked:

Jones County Sheriff’s Captain Jimmy Black says the gun was stolen during a burglary about two weeks ago.

Is this "responsible" gun owner being charged for failing to secure their weapon or did Darius us a blow torch to cut into their gun safe? Maybe carried the whole thing out of the house? Or maybe Georgia doesn't require you to secure your fire arms and if they do, they don't prosecute?

I've agreed before that gun owners should be accountable if they are "negligible" in a crime committed with their stolen firearm.

I've also never read(maybe I never paid attention?)where someone says that a gun owner suffered or had a tragedy from their firearms being stolen?  Not sure where that even comes up in a story?

Lastly you will not read about "responsible" gun owners just like you won't know that someone is conceal carrying.  You don't read about them because they are responsible.

We argue about this but as I say it's pointless because I know I can't change your mind or the way you think.

I'm out again for a little while until I feel froggy again and want to repeat myself.

Halifax2TheMax

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

tempo_n_groove said:

oftenreading said:

tempo_n_groove said:

oftenreading said:

tempo_n_groove said:

oftenreading said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Another “responsible” gun owner. 2 year old should have been armed. That’ll learn ‘em.

https://www.boston.com/news/national-news/2019/06/13/officials-5-year-old-shoots-toddler-in-head-uncle-charged

Did you read the story?

The person being charged stole the gun.

Exactly. Why wasn't the gun secured by the responsible owner in such a way that it couldn't be easily stolen in a B&E?

mickeyrat said:

oftenreading said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Another “responsible” gun owner. 2 year old should have been armed. That’ll learn ‘em.

https://www.boston.com/news/national-news/2019/06/13/officials-5-year-old-shoots-toddler-in-head-uncle-charged

Did you read the story?

The person being charged stole the gun.

Exactly. Why wasn't the gun secured by the responsible owner in such a way that it couldn't be easily stolen in a B&E?

I'd like info on that part of it.  was the person he stole it from the legal owner?

The original owner of the gun, given the circustance as to how it was stolen, should also be charged but I'm sure that wasn't the angle Hfax was "shooting" for.

I'm here all day people.

What basis do you have to be “sure”?

You could ask him if it behooves you.

I’m asking you why you’re sure. Halifax has already spoken many times out in favour of secure gun storage and holding responsible people who don’t secure their guns. 
 

Last time I'm biting on this, it's tiring that I'm the only one that sees it like this.

He referred that the 2yo should have been armed and the owner was responsible.  The stories always go that a gun owner was careless with their gun, kid finds it and shoots self or someone, which is exactly what happened only the gun owner in the story wasn't the actual owner, it was stolen so he is being charged with reckless conduct..

I'll ask if he read any farther than this.
"Authorities say a 5-year-old shot a 2-year-old sibling at a Georgia home while playing with a gun and now the children’s uncle has been charged."

So, the gun was stolen, Did the person who was “responsible” originally, the original “responsible” gun owner legally and “responsibly” transfer or secure the weapon? Did they report it stolen? Did they even know it was stolen? If it was properly secured, how was it stolen? If they didn’t do anything to prevent it from being stolen, as a “responsible” gun owner, they should be held criminally and civilly liable. With “rights” come “responsibilities” and it seems to me that gun owners are rarely held accountable for their “responsible” actions. It’s always a "tragedy" or they’ve "suffered enough." Fuck that, throw their “responsible” asses in jail. Maybe in a few generations it’ll change but then again you can’t fix stupid. I'm tired of kids being senselessly shot because "responsible" gun owners can't seem to be "responsible" and when their irresponsible, they don't seem to suffer any consequences.

And yea, I read past what you asked:

Jones County Sheriff’s Captain Jimmy Black says the gun was stolen during a burglary about two weeks ago.

Is this "responsible" gun owner being charged for failing to secure their weapon or did Darius us a blow torch to cut into their gun safe? Maybe carried the whole thing out of the house? Or maybe Georgia doesn't require you to secure your fire arms and if they do, they don't prosecute?

I've agreed before that gun owners should be accountable if they are "negligible" in a crime committed with their stolen firearm.

I've also never read(maybe I never paid attention?)where someone says that a gun owner suffered or had a tragedy from their firearms being stolen?  Not sure where that even comes up in a story?

Lastly you will not read about "responsible" gun owners just like you won't know that someone is conceal carrying.  You don't read about them because they are responsible.

We argue about this but as I say it's pointless because I know I can't change your mind or the way you think.

I'm out again for a little while until I feel froggy again and want to repeat myself.

A couple of “responsible” gun owners go to the Everglades to shoot their guns. Part of being “responsible” is to know what’s down range. They fire away and kill a guy fishing. Neither of the two spend a day in jail because it couldn’t be determined who fired the fatal shot. A "responsible" gun owner's toddler pulls her gun out of her purse in the car and shoots their sibling. Mom doesn't go to jail or is charged. And the list goes on and on and on.

Remember, every gun begins as a legal gun and every gun owner starts out as a "responsible" gun owner. And when they're not, there doesn't seem to be accountability or "responsibility." 2A and all. Like I said, I'm tired too.

I have less to worry about as it relates to gun violence because I live and work in rational states that control and restrict gun ownership more so than others. Doesn't mean I'm immune but it does mean my chances of being killed by a "responsible" gun owner are much less. Ribbitt.

Meltdown99

Shooting inside a Costco in Southern California leaves one dead, two injured

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/shooting-inside-costco-southern-california-leaves-one-dead-two-injured-n1017896?fbclid=IwAR2fvJKkWljF0lBEqaAz-wm39nQc0sV5Ofe9wzUtGawg_TvOqE1BjqI03CM

I never go shopping without my gun...

cincybearcat

Halifax2TheMax said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

tempo_n_groove said:

oftenreading said:

tempo_n_groove said:

oftenreading said:

tempo_n_groove said:

oftenreading said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Another “responsible” gun owner. 2 year old should have been armed. That’ll learn ‘em.

https://www.boston.com/news/national-news/2019/06/13/officials-5-year-old-shoots-toddler-in-head-uncle-charged

Did you read the story?

The person being charged stole the gun.

Exactly. Why wasn't the gun secured by the responsible owner in such a way that it couldn't be easily stolen in a B&E?

mickeyrat said:

oftenreading said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Another “responsible” gun owner. 2 year old should have been armed. That’ll learn ‘em.

https://www.boston.com/news/national-news/2019/06/13/officials-5-year-old-shoots-toddler-in-head-uncle-charged

Did you read the story?

The person being charged stole the gun.

Exactly. Why wasn't the gun secured by the responsible owner in such a way that it couldn't be easily stolen in a B&E?

I'd like info on that part of it.  was the person he stole it from the legal owner?

The original owner of the gun, given the circustance as to how it was stolen, should also be charged but I'm sure that wasn't the angle Hfax was "shooting" for.

I'm here all day people.

What basis do you have to be “sure”?

You could ask him if it behooves you.

I’m asking you why you’re sure. Halifax has already spoken many times out in favour of secure gun storage and holding responsible people who don’t secure their guns. 
 

Last time I'm biting on this, it's tiring that I'm the only one that sees it like this.

He referred that the 2yo should have been armed and the owner was responsible.  The stories always go that a gun owner was careless with their gun, kid finds it and shoots self or someone, which is exactly what happened only the gun owner in the story wasn't the actual owner, it was stolen so he is being charged with reckless conduct..

I'll ask if he read any farther than this.
"Authorities say a 5-year-old shot a 2-year-old sibling at a Georgia home while playing with a gun and now the children’s uncle has been charged."

So, the gun was stolen, Did the person who was “responsible” originally, the original “responsible” gun owner legally and “responsibly” transfer or secure the weapon? Did they report it stolen? Did they even know it was stolen? If it was properly secured, how was it stolen? If they didn’t do anything to prevent it from being stolen, as a “responsible” gun owner, they should be held criminally and civilly liable. With “rights” come “responsibilities” and it seems to me that gun owners are rarely held accountable for their “responsible” actions. It’s always a "tragedy" or they’ve "suffered enough." Fuck that, throw their “responsible” asses in jail. Maybe in a few generations it’ll change but then again you can’t fix stupid. I'm tired of kids being senselessly shot because "responsible" gun owners can't seem to be "responsible" and when their irresponsible, they don't seem to suffer any consequences.

And yea, I read past what you asked:

Jones County Sheriff’s Captain Jimmy Black says the gun was stolen during a burglary about two weeks ago.

Is this "responsible" gun owner being charged for failing to secure their weapon or did Darius us a blow torch to cut into their gun safe? Maybe carried the whole thing out of the house? Or maybe Georgia doesn't require you to secure your fire arms and if they do, they don't prosecute?

I've agreed before that gun owners should be accountable if they are "negligible" in a crime committed with their stolen firearm.

I've also never read(maybe I never paid attention?)where someone says that a gun owner suffered or had a tragedy from their firearms being stolen?  Not sure where that even comes up in a story?

Lastly you will not read about "responsible" gun owners just like you won't know that someone is conceal carrying.  You don't read about them because they are responsible.

We argue about this but as I say it's pointless because I know I can't change your mind or the way you think.

I'm out again for a little while until I feel froggy again and want to repeat myself.

A couple of “responsible” gun owners go to the Everglades to shoot their guns. Part of being “responsible” is to know what’s down range. They fire away and kill a guy fishing. Neither of the two spend a day in jail because it couldn’t be determined who fired the fatal shot. A "responsible" gun owner's toddler pulls her gun out of her purse in the car and shoots their sibling. Mom doesn't go to jail or is charged. And the list goes on and on and on.

Remember, every gun begins as a legal gun and every gun owner starts out as a "responsible" gun owner. And when they're not, there doesn't seem to be accountability or "responsibility." 2A and all. Like I said, I'm tired too.

I have less to worry about as it relates to gun violence because I live and work in rational states that control and restrict gun ownership more so than others. Doesn't mean I'm immune but it does mean my chances of being killed by a "responsible" gun owner are much less. Ribbitt.

No shit. This is so easy it’s mind boggling. 

Halifax2TheMax

“Responsible” gun owner at it again.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/16/us/iowa-west-des-moines-four-dead/index.html

cp3iverson

Scary. At least two shot at Raptors title parade.  Hope no one got trampled running away.  

Meltdown99

cp3iverson said:

Scary. At least two shot at Raptors title parade.  Hope no one got trampled running away.  

Whoever did this is a straight up ASSHOLE...hope the hell they catch these fuckers...the PM, Premier of Ontario and Mayor of Toronto were present, the leader of the official opposition was there somewhere...jeesh.

Halifax2TheMax

Another “responsible” gun owner. Maybe someday your daughter will marry one?

https://apple.news/ApvVSY7YLQXCa_-6mIsx6OQ

Halifax2TheMax

Gee, I wonder if the “responsible” gun owner will spend a day in jail?

https://apple.news/Ab2U2R4lFQUWQrFJhxB-tdw

Halifax2TheMax

Just one dead. Barely a blip. “Responsible” gun owner at it again. 

https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/23/us/south-bend-fatal-bar-shooting/index.html