America's Gun Violence

Gern Blansten

Halifax2TheMax said:

Gern Blansten said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Bentleyspop said:

Gern Blansten said:

We had new neighbors move in across the street and down one house a few years ago.  We never really had much of an introduction to each other...my wife went over one day and talked to the female briefly.  My wife thought she was a little odd but nothing out of the ordinary.  They are the kind of neighbors that don't wave when they drive by.  I don't expect people to stop their cars and come over and shake my hand while I'm mowing the front yard but when we are 20 feet apart a wave or eye contact with a smile would seem appropriate for people that live near each other.

The bus stop is in front of our house as we live in the first house on the cul-de-sac.  Their kids were not real close in age to ours so the kids never had much interaction.  My daughter said that kids on the bus would make fun of their oldest boy who did seem to have some austistic tendencies.

Anyway....we live on a lake and we took our boat back in the cove behind their house and noticed that they have a "This Property Protected by the 2nd Amendment" sign at the edge of their yard facing the lake.  So, OK, whatever....kind of an odd thing to advertise in a golf course community....like they think the sign will make lake pirates thing twice or something?

Recently my wife just happened to look up the neighbor lady on facebook.  They had family pictures taken (Dad, Mom, two boys and one younger (13?) daughter, where they are all holding pistols.  They also had some Mom/Dad shots where Dad has a pistol in each hand and Mom just has one pistol....not sure what the message is there.

This is unsettling because we had a nationally recognized school shooting in my city a few years ago.  The shooter lived in my neighborhood and had taken his parents guns to school.  Now right across the street I can see that they have a small arsenal (likely larger weapons as well) and younger kids in the house.

MAGA!

You should put one of these in your front or back yard....

Or have it made into a bumper sticker and slapped on your uparmored Humvee. Seriously, if i were you, I'd consider moving. And I know thats much easier said than done but why wait and see what may or may not happen? I can almost hear the on the street interview now, "they were a nice family, kept to themselves, didn't wave back but okay." Good luck and stay safe.

I can't imagine being the photographer that took the pics.  

Were any of the guns pink? And were the pictures taken at a photo studio or in the back yard? But yea, I can’t either.

No pink....they were in the back yard.  It was an awkward pose so I'm guessing the photog didn't care to spend much time making it look better.  

tempo_n_groove

Gern Blansten said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Bentleyspop said:

Gern Blansten said:

We had new neighbors move in across the street and down one house a few years ago.  We never really had much of an introduction to each other...my wife went over one day and talked to the female briefly.  My wife thought she was a little odd but nothing out of the ordinary.  They are the kind of neighbors that don't wave when they drive by.  I don't expect people to stop their cars and come over and shake my hand while I'm mowing the front yard but when we are 20 feet apart a wave or eye contact with a smile would seem appropriate for people that live near each other.

The bus stop is in front of our house as we live in the first house on the cul-de-sac.  Their kids were not real close in age to ours so the kids never had much interaction.  My daughter said that kids on the bus would make fun of their oldest boy who did seem to have some austistic tendencies.

Anyway....we live on a lake and we took our boat back in the cove behind their house and noticed that they have a "This Property Protected by the 2nd Amendment" sign at the edge of their yard facing the lake.  So, OK, whatever....kind of an odd thing to advertise in a golf course community....like they think the sign will make lake pirates thing twice or something?

Recently my wife just happened to look up the neighbor lady on facebook.  They had family pictures taken (Dad, Mom, two boys and one younger (13?) daughter, where they are all holding pistols.  They also had some Mom/Dad shots where Dad has a pistol in each hand and Mom just has one pistol....not sure what the message is there.

This is unsettling because we had a nationally recognized school shooting in my city a few years ago.  The shooter lived in my neighborhood and had taken his parents guns to school.  Now right across the street I can see that they have a small arsenal (likely larger weapons as well) and younger kids in the house.

MAGA!

You should put one of these in your front or back yard....

Or have it made into a bumper sticker and slapped on your uparmored Humvee. Seriously, if i were you, I'd consider moving. And I know thats much easier said than done but why wait and see what may or may not happen? I can almost hear the on the street interview now, "they were a nice family, kept to themselves, didn't wave back but okay." Good luck and stay safe.

I can't imagine being the photographer that took the pics.  

My sister, as a joke, bought me this book for Christmas one year.

She knows I'm a gun enthusiast and thought this was funny.  I found it disturbing...
https://www.amazon.com/Armed-America-Portraits-Owners-Their/dp/0896895432

So yes this is a thing.

mace1229

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Bentleyspop said:

Gern Blansten said:

We had new neighbors move in across the street and down one house a few years ago.  We never really had much of an introduction to each other...my wife went over one day and talked to the female briefly.  My wife thought she was a little odd but nothing out of the ordinary.  They are the kind of neighbors that don't wave when they drive by.  I don't expect people to stop their cars and come over and shake my hand while I'm mowing the front yard but when we are 20 feet apart a wave or eye contact with a smile would seem appropriate for people that live near each other.

The bus stop is in front of our house as we live in the first house on the cul-de-sac.  Their kids were not real close in age to ours so the kids never had much interaction.  My daughter said that kids on the bus would make fun of their oldest boy who did seem to have some austistic tendencies.

Anyway....we live on a lake and we took our boat back in the cove behind their house and noticed that they have a "This Property Protected by the 2nd Amendment" sign at the edge of their yard facing the lake.  So, OK, whatever....kind of an odd thing to advertise in a golf course community....like they think the sign will make lake pirates thing twice or something?

Recently my wife just happened to look up the neighbor lady on facebook.  They had family pictures taken (Dad, Mom, two boys and one younger (13?) daughter, where they are all holding pistols.  They also had some Mom/Dad shots where Dad has a pistol in each hand and Mom just has one pistol....not sure what the message is there.

This is unsettling because we had a nationally recognized school shooting in my city a few years ago.  The shooter lived in my neighborhood and had taken his parents guns to school.  Now right across the street I can see that they have a small arsenal (likely larger weapons as well) and younger kids in the house.

MAGA!

You should put one of these in your front or back yard....

Or have it made into a bumper sticker and slapped on your uparmored Humvee. Seriously, if i were you, I'd consider moving. And I know thats much easier said than done but why wait and see what may or may not happen? I can almost hear the on the street interview now, "they were a nice family, kept to themselves, didn't wave back but okay." Good luck and stay safe.

I can't imagine being the photographer that took the pics.  

My sister, as a joke, bought me this book for Christmas one year.

She knows I'm a gun enthusiast and thought this was funny.  I found it disturbing...
https://www.amazon.com/Armed-America-Portraits-Owners-Their/dp/0896895432

So yes this is a thing.

I was disturbed too, Superman outfit with what looks like Batman shoes. At least he kept it all in DC.

Halifax2TheMax

3 a day in VA and the repubs won’t even discuss it because of the NRA. Shameful wussies.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/five-miles-from-the-virginia-capitol-a-pregnant-woman-is-shot-right-after-failed-gun-debate/2019/07/13/4ae136e8-a4c5-11e9-bd56-eac6bb02d01d_story.html

CM189191

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tell me again how gun control is a slippery slope?

or is this just an example of how if you outlaw certain weapons, only outlaws will have them?

Halifax2TheMax

What were they so afraid of in VA?

Why is American masculinity at the center of gun culture but not the gun debate?

There have been more than 150 mass shootings in the United States. All but three were committed by men. Is it time for masculinity to enter the gun debate?

• By Nicki DeMarco, Erin Patrick O'Connor and Sarah Hashemi

• For these members of Congress, the gun debate is personal

tempo_n_groove

Halifax2TheMax said:

What were they so afraid of in VA?

Why is American masculinity at the center of gun culture but not the gun debate?

There have been more than 150 mass shootings in the United States. All but three were committed by men. Is it time for masculinity to enter the gun debate?

• By Nicki DeMarco, Erin Patrick O'Connor and Sarah Hashemi

• For these members of Congress, the gun debate is personal

I actually pointed out that a white male is the deadliest thing in the United States.

White males have committed most of the shootings.

We need Django.

Halifax2TheMax

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

What were they so afraid of in VA?

Why is American masculinity at the center of gun culture but not the gun debate?

There have been more than 150 mass shootings in the United States. All but three were committed by men. Is it time for masculinity to enter the gun debate?

• By Nicki DeMarco, Erin Patrick O'Connor and Sarah Hashemi

• For these members of Congress, the gun debate is personal

I actually pointed out that a white male is the deadliest thing in the United States.

White males have committed most of the shootings.

We need Django.

Or effective gun laws on a national scale but you know, ‘Murica.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/15/health/children-gun-deaths-strict-gun-laws-study-trnd/index.html

tempo_n_groove

Halifax2TheMax said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

What were they so afraid of in VA?

Why is American masculinity at the center of gun culture but not the gun debate?

There have been more than 150 mass shootings in the United States. All but three were committed by men. Is it time for masculinity to enter the gun debate?

• By Nicki DeMarco, Erin Patrick O'Connor and Sarah Hashemi

• For these members of Congress, the gun debate is personal

I actually pointed out that a white male is the deadliest thing in the United States.

White males have committed most of the shootings.

We need Django.

Or effective gun laws on a national scale but you know, ‘Murica.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/15/health/children-gun-deaths-strict-gun-laws-study-trnd/index.html

I always wondered how this idea works in places like Chicago, NY and California?

To the above though, a person should be charged if negligence is present.

oftenreading

Halifax2TheMax said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

What were they so afraid of in VA?

Why is American masculinity at the center of gun culture but not the gun debate?

There have been more than 150 mass shootings in the United States. All but three were committed by men. Is it time for masculinity to enter the gun debate?

• By Nicki DeMarco, Erin Patrick O'Connor and Sarah Hashemi

• For these members of Congress, the gun debate is personal

I actually pointed out that a white male is the deadliest thing in the United States.

White males have committed most of the shootings.

We need Django.

Or effective gun laws on a national scale but you know, ‘Murica.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/15/health/children-gun-deaths-strict-gun-laws-study-trnd/index.html

It's the child access prevention laws that I'm most interested in at this point. It seems a no-brainer to require gun owners to safely lock up the guns unloaded and separate from the ammo, but it still gets a lot of pushback. Good to see the evidence suggests it does reduce child deaths (and injuries too, I would assume). 

Spiritual_Chaos

oftenreading said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

What were they so afraid of in VA?

Why is American masculinity at the center of gun culture but not the gun debate?

There have been more than 150 mass shootings in the United States. All but three were committed by men. Is it time for masculinity to enter the gun debate?

• By Nicki DeMarco, Erin Patrick O'Connor and Sarah Hashemi

• For these members of Congress, the gun debate is personal

I actually pointed out that a white male is the deadliest thing in the United States.

White males have committed most of the shootings.

We need Django.

Or effective gun laws on a national scale but you know, ‘Murica.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/15/health/children-gun-deaths-strict-gun-laws-study-trnd/index.html

It's the child access prevention laws that I'm most interested in at this point. It seems a no-brainer to require gun owners to safely lock up the guns unloaded and separate from the ammo, but it still gets a lot of pushback. Good to see the evidence suggests it does reduce child deaths (and injuries too, I would assume). 

Law in Sweden to keep guns in approved gun cabinets. 

Never hear of children getting accidently shot here. Or getting hold of guns.

Halifax2TheMax

I’m sure this “responsible” gun owner kept his weapons properly stored.

https://apple.news/Awm9fUsbRTHKrUvi65pn0FA

I’m surprised his bail was as low as it was. NRA going to provide gratis defense?

tempo_n_groove

Halifax2TheMax said:

I’m sure this “responsible” gun owner kept his weapons properly stored.

https://apple.news/Awm9fUsbRTHKrUvi65pn0FA

I’m surprised his bail was as low as it was. NRA going to provide gratis defense?

How is a person dealing in illegal activities responsible?  That seems to be your catchphrase for this page as you appear to attach one to each thread you do, yes you have a pattern.

Why would the NRA defend this person?  That just doesn't make sense...  

Halifax2TheMax

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

I’m sure this “responsible” gun owner kept his weapons properly stored.

https://apple.news/Awm9fUsbRTHKrUvi65pn0FA

I’m surprised his bail was as low as it was. NRA going to provide gratis defense?

How is a person dealing in illegal activities responsible?  That seems to be your catchphrase for this page as you appear to attach one to each thread you do, yes you have a pattern.

Why would the NRA defend this person?  That just doesn't make sense...  

I was told by an NRA card carrying member that every legal gun buyer starts out “responsible” and every gun begins as a legal one. The NRA doesn’t believe there should be limits to the number or types of firearms an individual can possess. They shill for the firearms industry, not “responsibility.”

tempo_n_groove

Halifax2TheMax said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

I’m sure this “responsible” gun owner kept his weapons properly stored.

https://apple.news/Awm9fUsbRTHKrUvi65pn0FA

I’m surprised his bail was as low as it was. NRA going to provide gratis defense?

How is a person dealing in illegal activities responsible?  That seems to be your catchphrase for this page as you appear to attach one to each thread you do, yes you have a pattern.

Why would the NRA defend this person?  That just doesn't make sense...  

I was told by an NRA card carrying member that every legal gun buyer starts out “responsible” and every gun begins as a legal one. The NRA doesn’t believe there should be limits to the number or types of firearms an individual can possess. They shill for the firearms industry, not “responsibility.”

This guy broke the law and the NRA won't defend that.

Every driver starts out a "responsible" driver until they are not.

Every parent starts off as a "responsible" parent until they aren't.

You can argue the case that someone is responsible until they aren't for just about anything.

Again, since you missed it, the person was committing felonies.  There is nothing responsible about that and you put all the actual responsible gun owners in one spot.

Every republican must be a racist and every democrat must want to give away free things, eh?

Halifax2TheMax

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

I’m sure this “responsible” gun owner kept his weapons properly stored.

https://apple.news/Awm9fUsbRTHKrUvi65pn0FA

I’m surprised his bail was as low as it was. NRA going to provide gratis defense?

How is a person dealing in illegal activities responsible?  That seems to be your catchphrase for this page as you appear to attach one to each thread you do, yes you have a pattern.

Why would the NRA defend this person?  That just doesn't make sense...  

I was told by an NRA card carrying member that every legal gun buyer starts out “responsible” and every gun begins as a legal one. The NRA doesn’t believe there should be limits to the number or types of firearms an individual can possess. They shill for the firearms industry, not “responsibility.”

This guy broke the law and the NRA won't defend that.

Every driver starts out a "responsible" driver until they are not.

Every parent starts off as a "responsible" parent until they aren't.

You can argue the case that someone is responsible until they aren't for just about anything.

Again, since you missed it, the person was committing felonies.  There is nothing responsible about that and you put all the actual responsible gun owners in one spot.

Every republican must be a racist and every democrat must want to give away free things, eh?

To your last sentence, until they do or expose themselves as such. Car drivers and parents of kids generally are held accountable and there’s been a whole industry of legislation and changes that have taken place, and continue to do so, in an effort to protect the innocents. With guns, not so much.

So you’re okay with an individual amassing 1,000 guns, eh?

Where’s the NRA on gun printing? Because that’ll make us safer. Think of the convenience! Why go to a gun store when you can go to the ritzy part of LA, nice neighborhood and buy from the “responsible” gun owner?
 

oftenreading

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

I’m sure this “responsible” gun owner kept his weapons properly stored.

https://apple.news/Awm9fUsbRTHKrUvi65pn0FA

I’m surprised his bail was as low as it was. NRA going to provide gratis defense?

How is a person dealing in illegal activities responsible?  That seems to be your catchphrase for this page as you appear to attach one to each thread you do, yes you have a pattern.

Why would the NRA defend this person?  That just doesn't make sense...  

Why wouldn’t the NRA defend him (not financially, but morally)? They have made it clear that they see restrictions in gun ownership as unconstitutional, unreasonable and unamerican. The NRA defends outrageous things every day. 

tempo_n_groove

oftenreading said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

I’m sure this “responsible” gun owner kept his weapons properly stored.

https://apple.news/Awm9fUsbRTHKrUvi65pn0FA

I’m surprised his bail was as low as it was. NRA going to provide gratis defense?

How is a person dealing in illegal activities responsible?  That seems to be your catchphrase for this page as you appear to attach one to each thread you do, yes you have a pattern.

Why would the NRA defend this person?  That just doesn't make sense...  

Why wouldn’t the NRA defend him (not financially, but morally)? They have made it clear that they see restrictions in gun ownership as unconstitutional, unreasonable and unamerican. The NRA defends outrageous things every day. 

The guy committed felonies, that's why they won't defend him.  He was trafficking/smuggling guns too.

tempo_n_groove

Halifax2TheMax said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

I’m sure this “responsible” gun owner kept his weapons properly stored.

https://apple.news/Awm9fUsbRTHKrUvi65pn0FA

I’m surprised his bail was as low as it was. NRA going to provide gratis defense?

How is a person dealing in illegal activities responsible?  That seems to be your catchphrase for this page as you appear to attach one to each thread you do, yes you have a pattern.

Why would the NRA defend this person?  That just doesn't make sense...  

I was told by an NRA card carrying member that every legal gun buyer starts out “responsible” and every gun begins as a legal one. The NRA doesn’t believe there should be limits to the number or types of firearms an individual can possess. They shill for the firearms industry, not “responsibility.”

This guy broke the law and the NRA won't defend that.

Every driver starts out a "responsible" driver until they are not.

Every parent starts off as a "responsible" parent until they aren't.

You can argue the case that someone is responsible until they aren't for just about anything.

Again, since you missed it, the person was committing felonies.  There is nothing responsible about that and you put all the actual responsible gun owners in one spot.

Every republican must be a racist and every democrat must want to give away free things, eh?

To your last sentence, until they do or expose themselves as such. Car drivers and parents of kids generally are held accountable and there’s been a whole industry of legislation and changes that have taken place, and continue to do so, in an effort to protect the innocents. With guns, not so much.

So you’re okay with an individual amassing 1,000 guns, eh?

Where’s the NRA on gun printing? Because that’ll make us safer. Think of the convenience! Why go to a gun store when you can go to the ritzy part of LA, nice neighborhood and buy from the “responsible” gun owner?
 

I am actually ok w owning 1000 guns if you want.  I think it's crazy but if you want that many then fine.

Most people own more than one gun anyways.

oftenreading

tempo_n_groove said:

oftenreading said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

I’m sure this “responsible” gun owner kept his weapons properly stored.

https://apple.news/Awm9fUsbRTHKrUvi65pn0FA

I’m surprised his bail was as low as it was. NRA going to provide gratis defense?

How is a person dealing in illegal activities responsible?  That seems to be your catchphrase for this page as you appear to attach one to each thread you do, yes you have a pattern.

Why would the NRA defend this person?  That just doesn't make sense...  

Why wouldn’t the NRA defend him (not financially, but morally)? They have made it clear that they see restrictions in gun ownership as unconstitutional, unreasonable and unamerican. The NRA defends outrageous things every day. 

The guy committed felonies, that's why they won't defend him.  He was trafficking/smuggling guns too.

The NRA regularly supports gun rights for felons and opposes removal of guns and is against removing gun access from those convicted of hate crimes. I don’t imagine we’ll ever know their position on this particular situation, but it would not shock me if they declined to censure it.