America's Gun Violence

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  • In all of these examples provided by the pro gun crowd, regulatory, self policing and common sense public awareness campaigns were implemented to save lives. Drunk driving deaths used to be 55K per year 40 years ago when MADD came into being. With way more cars on the road and vehicle miles driven today and the resultant halving of the death rate and that percentage is probably lower than .015. Mal practice? Hospital boards have committees that look at every death that could have been prevented and try to change how they do things to either prevent the next one or reduce the incidence of same. Obese people eating themselves to death may contribute to my health insurance premiums but it won't result in my death. And in all those instances, governments, via legislation, get involved when the violators won't regulate themselves. Except the gun industry, the NRA and "responsible" gun owners. In fact, they've gone the opposite way, thus contributing to the problem.
    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;

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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,123
    Amazing to see so many people wanting to put their efforts into trying to prove that guns don’t really kill that many people, compared to things like illegal drugs and skydiving.

    :weary:
    No one is saying that guns don't kill people but just proving that the vast majority of gun owners are responsible.  
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  • mcgruff10 said:
    Amazing to see so many people wanting to put their efforts into trying to prove that guns don’t really kill that many people, compared to things like illegal drugs and skydiving.

    :weary:
    No one is saying that guns don't kill people but just proving that the vast majority of gun owners are responsible.  

    Until they aren't.
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  • mcgruff10 said:
    rgambs said:
    x said:
    Just another “responsible” gun owner. I wonder if her gun was pink? Maybe pink camouflage with a smaller grip? Maybe polished mahogany?

    https://apple.news/A95EmAzjCS424S_z2TQu6-g
    Murder is not responsible and what the hell is a smaller grip/polished mahogany?  Is that your attempt to make fun of her?
    It was pointed out to me on this very forum that every gun begins its life as a legal gun and every legal gun purchaser begins as a “responsible” gun owner. And while the gun enthusiasts wax poetic about gun features such as polished mahogany stocks and the gun industry actively markets to women with pink color schemes on their product, innocent individuals that deserve a right to life and the pursuit of happiness, rights repubs and some posters here swear they care about, are mowed down to the tune of approximately 45,000 a year, some as they sleep. Happy voting.
    We know that 22,000 of them were self inflicted.

    We also know that the remaining 23,000 of those were obtained illegally.  Roughly half. so that's 11,500.

    In the big picture of things there are roughly 75,000,000 gun owners and 11,500 deaths a year.  That is .015% of deaths by responsible gun owners per year.

    Take that for what it's worth.


    The firearms obtained illegally were obtained from "responsible gun owners".
    If a gun gets stolen from someone it can't be the owners fault unless he was negligent, then he isn't "responsible" and should be held accountable.

    But what you are leaning towards has been a target of gun activists.  They activists would like the gun manufacturers to be held accountable for crimes committed with firearms that they made.

     
    Just another “responsible” gun owner. I wonder if her gun was pink? Maybe pink camouflage with a smaller grip? Maybe polished mahogany?

    https://apple.news/A95EmAzjCS424S_z2TQu6-g
    Murder is not responsible and what the hell is a smaller grip/polished mahogany?  Is that your attempt to make fun of her?
    It was pointed out to me on this very forum that every gun begins its life as a legal gun and every legal gun purchaser begins as a “responsible” gun owner. And while the gun enthusiasts wax poetic about gun features such as polished mahogany stocks and the gun industry actively markets to women with pink color schemes on their product, innocent individuals that deserve a right to life and the pursuit of happiness, rights repubs and some posters here swear they care about, are mowed down to the tune of approximately 45,000 a year, some as they sleep. Happy voting.
    We know that 22,000 of them were self inflicted.

    We also know that the remaining 23,000 of those were obtained illegally.  Roughly half. so that's 11,500.

    In the big picture of things there are roughly 75,000,000 gun owners and 11,500 deaths a year.  That is .015% of deaths by responsible gun owners per year.

    Take that for what it's worth.


    How do we know roughly half were obtained illegally? And at some point, a “responsible” gun owner decided not to be “responsible” by facilitating illegal ownership of guns. .015 too many.
     
    That isn't a responsible gun owner if they are doing that and they should be held accountable.

    I know i'm spitting in the wind here and I really don't know why I come back to this thread...
    0.015 is too many....wow.  I mean in what other areas of life can you say 99.985 percent of something is responsible or positive?
    Where else can you point where that rate of failure results in the deaths of thousands of innocent people?

    Automobiles- 222,000,000 licensed, 1,300,000 deaths .59%

    Drugs-25,000,000 users, 72,000 deaths .29%

    Sky Diving-3,500,000 people, 21 deaths .006%

    Cycling-17,400,000 sold, 800 avg deaths a year .005%
    1.3MM automobile deaths per year? Better get off the pipe.
    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;

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  • Amazing to see so many people wanting to put their efforts into trying to prove that guns don’t really kill that many people, compared to things like illegal drugs and skydiving.

    :weary:
    Answered a question someone asked to put other things in perspective.

    I can use smoking and alcohol too.

    37,800,000 smokers and 480,000 deaths 1.3%
    24,000,000 active drinkers and 88,000 deaths  .37%


  • Amazing to see so many people wanting to put their efforts into trying to prove that guns don’t really kill that many people, compared to things like illegal drugs and skydiving.

    :weary:
    Answered a question someone asked to put other things in perspective.

    I can use smoking and alcohol too.

    37,800,000 smokers and 480,000 deaths 1.3%
    24,000,000 active drinkers and 88,000 deaths  .37%


    You're numbers are way, way off.
    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;

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  • mcgruff10
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    mcgruff10 said:
    Amazing to see so many people wanting to put their efforts into trying to prove that guns don’t really kill that many people, compared to things like illegal drugs and skydiving.

    :weary:
    No one is saying that guns don't kill people but just proving that the vast majority of gun owners are responsible.  

    Until they aren't.
    Everyone is responsible until they break the law. “Until they aren’t” is such a dumb thing to say. No shit they aren’t responsible. 
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  • mace1229
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    edited November 2018
    Seriously. A question was answered. Now it is suddenly juvenile and defensive for putting forth honest answers?
    No one has suggested gun deaths are okay, or that it isn't a big deal or calling it a "big whoop" or that guns dont really kill or anything that those who don't like the answers are saying. Its very simple, a question was asked and was answered. You don't have to be pro-gun to answer the question.  Sorry for all of those who don;t like the answers.
    I'm with tempo, why do I keep coming back here when that is the response?
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  • mace1229 said:
    Seriously. A question was answered. Now it is suddenly juvenile and defensive for putting forth honest answers?
    No one has suggested gun deaths are okay, or that it isn't a big deal or calling it a "big whoop" or that guns dont really kill or anything that those who don't like the answers are saying. Its very simple, a question was asked and was answered. Sorry for all of those who don;t like the answers.
    I'm with tempo, why do I keep coming back here when that is the resposne?
    Who said we didn’t like the answers? I just find them irrelevant, particularly when Tempo cooks the books.
    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;

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  • mcgruff10 said:
    rgambs said:
    x said:
    Just another “responsible” gun owner. I wonder if her gun was pink? Maybe pink camouflage with a smaller grip? Maybe polished mahogany?

    https://apple.news/A95EmAzjCS424S_z2TQu6-g
    Murder is not responsible and what the hell is a smaller grip/polished mahogany?  Is that your attempt to make fun of her?
    It was pointed out to me on this very forum that every gun begins its life as a legal gun and every legal gun purchaser begins as a “responsible” gun owner. And while the gun enthusiasts wax poetic about gun features such as polished mahogany stocks and the gun industry actively markets to women with pink color schemes on their product, innocent individuals that deserve a right to life and the pursuit of happiness, rights repubs and some posters here swear they care about, are mowed down to the tune of approximately 45,000 a year, some as they sleep. Happy voting.
    We know that 22,000 of them were self inflicted.

    We also know that the remaining 23,000 of those were obtained illegally.  Roughly half. so that's 11,500.

    In the big picture of things there are roughly 75,000,000 gun owners and 11,500 deaths a year.  That is .015% of deaths by responsible gun owners per year.

    Take that for what it's worth.


    The firearms obtained illegally were obtained from "responsible gun owners".
    If a gun gets stolen from someone it can't be the owners fault unless he was negligent, then he isn't "responsible" and should be held accountable.

    But what you are leaning towards has been a target of gun activists.  They activists would like the gun manufacturers to be held accountable for crimes committed with firearms that they made.

     
    Just another “responsible” gun owner. I wonder if her gun was pink? Maybe pink camouflage with a smaller grip? Maybe polished mahogany?

    https://apple.news/A95EmAzjCS424S_z2TQu6-g
    Murder is not responsible and what the hell is a smaller grip/polished mahogany?  Is that your attempt to make fun of her?
    It was pointed out to me on this very forum that every gun begins its life as a legal gun and every legal gun purchaser begins as a “responsible” gun owner. And while the gun enthusiasts wax poetic about gun features such as polished mahogany stocks and the gun industry actively markets to women with pink color schemes on their product, innocent individuals that deserve a right to life and the pursuit of happiness, rights repubs and some posters here swear they care about, are mowed down to the tune of approximately 45,000 a year, some as they sleep. Happy voting.
    We know that 22,000 of them were self inflicted.

    We also know that the remaining 23,000 of those were obtained illegally.  Roughly half. so that's 11,500.

    In the big picture of things there are roughly 75,000,000 gun owners and 11,500 deaths a year.  That is .015% of deaths by responsible gun owners per year.

    Take that for what it's worth.


    How do we know roughly half were obtained illegally? And at some point, a “responsible” gun owner decided not to be “responsible” by facilitating illegal ownership of guns. .015 too many.
     
    That isn't a responsible gun owner if they are doing that and they should be held accountable.

    I know i'm spitting in the wind here and I really don't know why I come back to this thread...
    0.015 is too many....wow.  I mean in what other areas of life can you say 99.985 percent of something is responsible or positive?
    Where else can you point where that rate of failure results in the deaths of thousands of innocent people?

    Automobiles- 222,000,000 licensed, 1,300,000 deaths .59%

    Drugs-25,000,000 users, 72,000 deaths .29%

    Sky Diving-3,500,000 people, 21 deaths .006%

    Cycling-17,400,000 sold, 800 avg deaths a year .005%
    1.3MM automobile deaths per year? Better get off the pipe.
    That's 40,000 deaths.  I don't know what I did there...

    Percentage is .02%

    For your defense Motor vehicle related deaths have been on decline from their peak in 1980 51,000 compared to around 40,000 now.  The death toll has been increasing over the last 15 years from a low of 32,000 in 2010.

    From 2010 until now gun deaths rose from 31,000 to 36,000.  The 45,000 deaths is 10,000 higher than anything that I've read.  It still is on the rise.
  • mace1229 said:
    Seriously. A question was answered. Now it is suddenly juvenile and defensive for putting forth honest answers?
    No one has suggested gun deaths are okay, or that it isn't a big deal or calling it a "big whoop" or that guns dont really kill or anything that those who don't like the answers are saying. Its very simple, a question was asked and was answered. Sorry for all of those who don;t like the answers.
    I'm with tempo, why do I keep coming back here when that is the resposne?
    Who said we didn’t like the answers? I just find them irrelevant, particularly when Tempo cooks the books.
    I messed up one... The car deaths.

    Feel free to "use the google" to find all the others are right on par.

    Speaking of "cooking the books" where did you get 45,000 gun deaths per year?

    I'll just use this one as it is still far off.  It shows 38,000 in this one where as I have 36,000 in 2016 in most other places.  If I used a pro gun site it is much lower but I'm not using that.

    https://www.thetrace.org/rounds/gun-deaths-increase-2017/
  • Gun-related suicides and homicides in the United States, 1999-2016[1]
    Gun-related homicide and suicide rates in high-income OECD countries, 2010, countries in graph ordered by total death rates (homicide plus suicide plus other gun-related deaths).[2]

    Gun violence in the United States results in tens of thousands of deaths and injuries annually.[3] In 2013, there were 73,505 nonfatal firearm injuries (23.2 injuries per 100,000 persons),[4][5] and 33,636 deaths due to "injury by firearms" (10.6 deaths per 100,000 persons).[6] These deaths consisted of 11,208 homicides,[7] 21,175 suicides,[6] 505 deaths due to accidental or negligent discharge of a firearm, and 281 deaths due to firearms use with "undetermined intent".[6] The ownership and control of guns are among the most widely debated issues in the country.

    In 2012, there were 8,855 total firearm-related homicides in the US, with 6,371 of those attributed to handguns.[8] In 2012, 64% of all gun-related deaths in the U.S. were suicides.[9] In 2010, there were 19,392 firearm-related suicides, and 11,078 firearm-related homicides in the U.S.[10] In 2010, 358 murders were reported involving a rifle while 6,009 were reported involving a handgun; another 1,939 were reported with an unspecified type of firearm.[11]

    Firearms were used to kill 13,286 people in the U.S. in 2015, excluding suicide.[12] Approximately 1.4 million people have died from firearms in the U.S. between 1968 and 2011. This number includes all deaths resulting from a firearm, including suicides, homicides, and accidents.[12]

    Compared to 22 other high-income nations, the U.S. gun-related murder rate is 25 times higher.[13] Although it has half the population of the other 22 nations combined, the U.S. had 82 percent of all gun deaths, 90 percent of all women killed with guns, 91 percent of children under 14 and 92 percent of young people between ages 15 and 24 killed with guns.[13]

    Gun violence is most common in poor urban areas and frequently associated with gang violence, often involving male juveniles or young adult males.[14][15] Although mass shootings have been covered extensively in the media, mass shootings in the US account for a small fraction of gun-related deaths[16] and the frequency of these events steadily declined between 1994 and 2007, rising between 2007 and 2013.[17][18]

    Legislation at the federal, state, and local levels has attempted to address gun violence through a variety of methods, including restricting firearms purchases by youths and other "at-risk" populations, setting waiting periods for firearm purchases, establishing gun buyback programs, law enforcement and policing strategies, stiff sentencing of gun law violators, education programs for parents and children, and community-outreach programs. Despite widespread concern about the impacts of gun violence on public health, Congress has prohibited the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) from conducting research that advocates in favor of gun control.[19] The CDC has interpreted this ban to extend to all research on gun violence prevention, and so has not funded any research on this subject since 1996.[20]

    I stand corrected on the annual gun death number but why is it that we're not allowed to study the issue?


    24,000,000 active drinkers and 88,000 deaths  .37% Should be .0036.

    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;

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  • Gun-related suicides and homicides in the United States, 1999-2016[1]
    Gun-related homicide and suicide rates in high-income OECD countries, 2010, countries in graph ordered by total death rates (homicide plus suicide plus other gun-related deaths).[2]

    Gun violence in the United States results in tens of thousands of deaths and injuries annually.[3] In 2013, there were 73,505 nonfatal firearm injuries (23.2 injuries per 100,000 persons),[4][5] and 33,636 deaths due to "injury by firearms" (10.6 deaths per 100,000 persons).[6] These deaths consisted of 11,208 homicides,[7] 21,175 suicides,[6] 505 deaths due to accidental or negligent discharge of a firearm, and 281 deaths due to firearms use with "undetermined intent".[6] The ownership and control of guns are among the most widely debated issues in the country.

    In 2012, there were 8,855 total firearm-related homicides in the US, with 6,371 of those attributed to handguns.[8] In 2012, 64% of all gun-related deaths in the U.S. were suicides.[9] In 2010, there were 19,392 firearm-related suicides, and 11,078 firearm-related homicides in the U.S.[10] In 2010, 358 murders were reported involving a rifle while 6,009 were reported involving a handgun; another 1,939 were reported with an unspecified type of firearm.[11]

    Firearms were used to kill 13,286 people in the U.S. in 2015, excluding suicide.[12] Approximately 1.4 million people have died from firearms in the U.S. between 1968 and 2011. This number includes all deaths resulting from a firearm, including suicides, homicides, and accidents.[12]

    Compared to 22 other high-income nations, the U.S. gun-related murder rate is 25 times higher.[13] Although it has half the population of the other 22 nations combined, the U.S. had 82 percent of all gun deaths, 90 percent of all women killed with guns, 91 percent of children under 14 and 92 percent of young people between ages 15 and 24 killed with guns.[13]

    Gun violence is most common in poor urban areas and frequently associated with gang violence, often involving male juveniles or young adult males.[14][15] Although mass shootings have been covered extensively in the media, mass shootings in the US account for a small fraction of gun-related deaths[16] and the frequency of these events steadily declined between 1994 and 2007, rising between 2007 and 2013.[17][18]

    Legislation at the federal, state, and local levels has attempted to address gun violence through a variety of methods, including restricting firearms purchases by youths and other "at-risk" populations, setting waiting periods for firearm purchases, establishing gun buyback programs, law enforcement and policing strategies, stiff sentencing of gun law violators, education programs for parents and children, and community-outreach programs. Despite widespread concern about the impacts of gun violence on public health, Congress has prohibited the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) from conducting research that advocates in favor of gun control.[19] The CDC has interpreted this ban to extend to all research on gun violence prevention, and so has not funded any research on this subject since 1996.[20]

    I stand corrected on the annual gun death number but why is it that we're not allowed to study the issue?


    24,000,000 active drinkers and 88,000 deaths  .37% Should be .0036.

    Shouldn't you move the decimal over 2 places?
  • Gun-related suicides and homicides in the United States, 1999-2016[1]
    Gun-related homicide and suicide rates in high-income OECD countries, 2010, countries in graph ordered by total death rates (homicide plus suicide plus other gun-related deaths).[2]

    Gun violence in the United States results in tens of thousands of deaths and injuries annually.[3] In 2013, there were 73,505 nonfatal firearm injuries (23.2 injuries per 100,000 persons),[4][5] and 33,636 deaths due to "injury by firearms" (10.6 deaths per 100,000 persons).[6] These deaths consisted of 11,208 homicides,[7] 21,175 suicides,[6] 505 deaths due to accidental or negligent discharge of a firearm, and 281 deaths due to firearms use with "undetermined intent".[6] The ownership and control of guns are among the most widely debated issues in the country.

    In 2012, there were 8,855 total firearm-related homicides in the US, with 6,371 of those attributed to handguns.[8] In 2012, 64% of all gun-related deaths in the U.S. were suicides.[9] In 2010, there were 19,392 firearm-related suicides, and 11,078 firearm-related homicides in the U.S.[10] In 2010, 358 murders were reported involving a rifle while 6,009 were reported involving a handgun; another 1,939 were reported with an unspecified type of firearm.[11]

    Firearms were used to kill 13,286 people in the U.S. in 2015, excluding suicide.[12] Approximately 1.4 million people have died from firearms in the U.S. between 1968 and 2011. This number includes all deaths resulting from a firearm, including suicides, homicides, and accidents.[12]

    Compared to 22 other high-income nations, the U.S. gun-related murder rate is 25 times higher.[13] Although it has half the population of the other 22 nations combined, the U.S. had 82 percent of all gun deaths, 90 percent of all women killed with guns, 91 percent of children under 14 and 92 percent of young people between ages 15 and 24 killed with guns.[13]

    Gun violence is most common in poor urban areas and frequently associated with gang violence, often involving male juveniles or young adult males.[14][15] Although mass shootings have been covered extensively in the media, mass shootings in the US account for a small fraction of gun-related deaths[16] and the frequency of these events steadily declined between 1994 and 2007, rising between 2007 and 2013.[17][18]

    Legislation at the federal, state, and local levels has attempted to address gun violence through a variety of methods, including restricting firearms purchases by youths and other "at-risk" populations, setting waiting periods for firearm purchases, establishing gun buyback programs, law enforcement and policing strategies, stiff sentencing of gun law violators, education programs for parents and children, and community-outreach programs. Despite widespread concern about the impacts of gun violence on public health, Congress has prohibited the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) from conducting research that advocates in favor of gun control.[19] The CDC has interpreted this ban to extend to all research on gun violence prevention, and so has not funded any research on this subject since 1996.[20]

    I stand corrected on the annual gun death number but why is it that we're not allowed to study the issue?


    24,000,000 active drinkers and 88,000 deaths  .37% Should be .0036.


    The bottom graph is embarrassing for all the other countries.

    You guys are kicking our asses.
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  • mace1229 said:
    Seriously. A question was answered. Now it is suddenly juvenile and defensive for putting forth honest answers?
    No one has suggested gun deaths are okay, or that it isn't a big deal or calling it a "big whoop" or that guns dont really kill or anything that those who don't like the answers are saying. Its very simple, a question was asked and was answered. You don't have to be pro-gun to answer the question.  Sorry for all of those who don;t like the answers.
    I'm with tempo, why do I keep coming back here when that is the response?

    Interesting you say 'honest'.

    Because if you were being 'honest'... you'd fess up to using the examples as part of the feeble argument against gun control. These same examples are littered about this thread at various times by various people in various contexts as some sort of point that guns are no different than any other item in life.

    Of course logical people don't like the answers... because they are not answers. They are deflections. A tool designed specifically for killing and working exactly as it was designed cannot be compared to a tool designed for transportation that results in an accident.

    Come on, man. You're smarter than that.
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  • Gun-related suicides and homicides in the United States, 1999-2016[1]
    Gun-related homicide and suicide rates in high-income OECD countries, 2010, countries in graph ordered by total death rates (homicide plus suicide plus other gun-related deaths).[2]

    Gun violence in the United States results in tens of thousands of deaths and injuries annually.[3] In 2013, there were 73,505 nonfatal firearm injuries (23.2 injuries per 100,000 persons),[4][5] and 33,636 deaths due to "injury by firearms" (10.6 deaths per 100,000 persons).[6] These deaths consisted of 11,208 homicides,[7] 21,175 suicides,[6] 505 deaths due to accidental or negligent discharge of a firearm, and 281 deaths due to firearms use with "undetermined intent".[6] The ownership and control of guns are among the most widely debated issues in the country.

    In 2012, there were 8,855 total firearm-related homicides in the US, with 6,371 of those attributed to handguns.[8] In 2012, 64% of all gun-related deaths in the U.S. were suicides.[9] In 2010, there were 19,392 firearm-related suicides, and 11,078 firearm-related homicides in the U.S.[10] In 2010, 358 murders were reported involving a rifle while 6,009 were reported involving a handgun; another 1,939 were reported with an unspecified type of firearm.[11]

    Firearms were used to kill 13,286 people in the U.S. in 2015, excluding suicide.[12] Approximately 1.4 million people have died from firearms in the U.S. between 1968 and 2011. This number includes all deaths resulting from a firearm, including suicides, homicides, and accidents.[12]

    Compared to 22 other high-income nations, the U.S. gun-related murder rate is 25 times higher.[13] Although it has half the population of the other 22 nations combined, the U.S. had 82 percent of all gun deaths, 90 percent of all women killed with guns, 91 percent of children under 14 and 92 percent of young people between ages 15 and 24 killed with guns.[13]

    Gun violence is most common in poor urban areas and frequently associated with gang violence, often involving male juveniles or young adult males.[14][15] Although mass shootings have been covered extensively in the media, mass shootings in the US account for a small fraction of gun-related deaths[16] and the frequency of these events steadily declined between 1994 and 2007, rising between 2007 and 2013.[17][18]

    Legislation at the federal, state, and local levels has attempted to address gun violence through a variety of methods, including restricting firearms purchases by youths and other "at-risk" populations, setting waiting periods for firearm purchases, establishing gun buyback programs, law enforcement and policing strategies, stiff sentencing of gun law violators, education programs for parents and children, and community-outreach programs. Despite widespread concern about the impacts of gun violence on public health, Congress has prohibited the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) from conducting research that advocates in favor of gun control.[19] The CDC has interpreted this ban to extend to all research on gun violence prevention, and so has not funded any research on this subject since 1996.[20]

    I stand corrected on the annual gun death number but why is it that we're not allowed to study the issue?


    24,000,000 active drinkers and 88,000 deaths  .37% Should be .0036.

    Shouldn't you move the decimal over 2 places?
    I must be stoned. You should see my check book! And no online money management for me and I still lick the stamps.
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  • Gun-related suicides and homicides in the United States, 1999-2016[1]
    Gun-related homicide and suicide rates in high-income OECD countries, 2010, countries in graph ordered by total death rates (homicide plus suicide plus other gun-related deaths).[2]

    Gun violence in the United States results in tens of thousands of deaths and injuries annually.[3] In 2013, there were 73,505 nonfatal firearm injuries (23.2 injuries per 100,000 persons),[4][5] and 33,636 deaths due to "injury by firearms" (10.6 deaths per 100,000 persons).[6] These deaths consisted of 11,208 homicides,[7] 21,175 suicides,[6] 505 deaths due to accidental or negligent discharge of a firearm, and 281 deaths due to firearms use with "undetermined intent".[6] The ownership and control of guns are among the most widely debated issues in the country.

    In 2012, there were 8,855 total firearm-related homicides in the US, with 6,371 of those attributed to handguns.[8] In 2012, 64% of all gun-related deaths in the U.S. were suicides.[9] In 2010, there were 19,392 firearm-related suicides, and 11,078 firearm-related homicides in the U.S.[10] In 2010, 358 murders were reported involving a rifle while 6,009 were reported involving a handgun; another 1,939 were reported with an unspecified type of firearm.[11]

    Firearms were used to kill 13,286 people in the U.S. in 2015, excluding suicide.[12] Approximately 1.4 million people have died from firearms in the U.S. between 1968 and 2011. This number includes all deaths resulting from a firearm, including suicides, homicides, and accidents.[12]

    Compared to 22 other high-income nations, the U.S. gun-related murder rate is 25 times higher.[13] Although it has half the population of the other 22 nations combined, the U.S. had 82 percent of all gun deaths, 90 percent of all women killed with guns, 91 percent of children under 14 and 92 percent of young people between ages 15 and 24 killed with guns.[13]

    Gun violence is most common in poor urban areas and frequently associated with gang violence, often involving male juveniles or young adult males.[14][15] Although mass shootings have been covered extensively in the media, mass shootings in the US account for a small fraction of gun-related deaths[16] and the frequency of these events steadily declined between 1994 and 2007, rising between 2007 and 2013.[17][18]

    , Congress has prohibited the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) from conducting research that advocates in favor of gun control.[19] The CDC has interpreted this ban to extend to all research on gun violence prevention, and so has not funded any research on this subject since 1996.[20]

    I stand corrected on the annual gun death number but why is it that we're not allowed to study the issue?


    24,000,000 active drinkers and 88,000 deaths  .37% Should be .0036.

    Shouldn't you move the decimal over 2 places?
    I must be stoned. You should see my check book! And no online money management for me and I still lick the stamps.

    Do you remember that time you were licking stamps and the black one got stuck on your front tooth right before the Pearl Jam show? Remember all the people that thought you only had one front tooth? And they shouted, "Yee haw! Make American great again!" to you?

    That was weird that accidental 'immersion experiment'.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • Gun-related suicides and homicides in the United States, 1999-2016[1]
    Gun-related homicide and suicide rates in high-income OECD countries, 2010, countries in graph ordered by total death rates (homicide plus suicide plus other gun-related deaths).[2]

    Gun violence in the United States results in tens of thousands of deaths and injuries annually.[3] In 2013, there were 73,505 nonfatal firearm injuries (23.2 injuries per 100,000 persons),[4][5] and 33,636 deaths due to "injury by firearms" (10.6 deaths per 100,000 persons).[6] These deaths consisted of 11,208 homicides,[7] 21,175 suicides,[6] 505 deaths due to accidental or negligent discharge of a firearm, and 281 deaths due to firearms use with "undetermined intent".[6] The ownership and control of guns are among the most widely debated issues in the country.

    In 2012, there were 8,855 total firearm-related homicides in the US, with 6,371 of those attributed to handguns.[8] In 2012, 64% of all gun-related deaths in the U.S. were suicides.[9] In 2010, there were 19,392 firearm-related suicides, and 11,078 firearm-related homicides in the U.S.[10] In 2010, 358 murders were reported involving a rifle while 6,009 were reported involving a handgun; another 1,939 were reported with an unspecified type of firearm.[11]

    Firearms were used to kill 13,286 people in the U.S. in 2015, excluding suicide.[12] Approximately 1.4 million people have died from firearms in the U.S. between 1968 and 2011. This number includes all deaths resulting from a firearm, including suicides, homicides, and accidents.[12]

    Compared to 22 other high-income nations, the U.S. gun-related murder rate is 25 times higher.[13] Although it has half the population of the other 22 nations combined, the U.S. had 82 percent of all gun deaths, 90 percent of all women killed with guns, 91 percent of children under 14 and 92 percent of young people between ages 15 and 24 killed with guns.[13]

    Gun violence is most common in poor urban areas and frequently associated with gang violence, often involving male juveniles or young adult males.[14][15] Although mass shootings have been covered extensively in the media, mass shootings in the US account for a small fraction of gun-related deaths[16] and the frequency of these events steadily declined between 1994 and 2007, rising between 2007 and 2013.[17][18]

    , Congress has prohibited the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) from conducting research that advocates in favor of gun control.[19] The CDC has interpreted this ban to extend to all research on gun violence prevention, and so has not funded any research on this subject since 1996.[20]

    I stand corrected on the annual gun death number but why is it that we're not allowed to study the issue?


    24,000,000 active drinkers and 88,000 deaths  .37% Should be .0036.

    Shouldn't you move the decimal over 2 places?
    I must be stoned. You should see my check book! And no online money management for me and I still lick the stamps.

    Do you remember that time you were licking stamps and the black one got stuck on your front tooth right before the Pearl Jam show? Remember all the people that thought you only had one front tooth? And they shouted, "Yee haw! Make American great again!" to you?

    That was weird that accidental 'immersion experiment'.
    Oooottawa show?
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  • Gun-related suicides and homicides in the United States, 1999-2016[1]
    Gun-related homicide and suicide rates in high-income OECD countries, 2010, countries in graph ordered by total death rates (homicide plus suicide plus other gun-related deaths).[2]

    Gun violence in the United States results in tens of thousands of deaths and injuries annually.[3] In 2013, there were 73,505 nonfatal firearm injuries (23.2 injuries per 100,000 persons),[4][5] and 33,636 deaths due to "injury by firearms" (10.6 deaths per 100,000 persons).[6] These deaths consisted of 11,208 homicides,[7] 21,175 suicides,[6] 505 deaths due to accidental or negligent discharge of a firearm, and 281 deaths due to firearms use with "undetermined intent".[6] The ownership and control of guns are among the most widely debated issues in the country.

    In 2012, there were 8,855 total firearm-related homicides in the US, with 6,371 of those attributed to handguns.[8] In 2012, 64% of all gun-related deaths in the U.S. were suicides.[9] In 2010, there were 19,392 firearm-related suicides, and 11,078 firearm-related homicides in the U.S.[10] In 2010, 358 murders were reported involving a rifle while 6,009 were reported involving a handgun; another 1,939 were reported with an unspecified type of firearm.[11]

    Firearms were used to kill 13,286 people in the U.S. in 2015, excluding suicide.[12] Approximately 1.4 million people have died from firearms in the U.S. between 1968 and 2011. This number includes all deaths resulting from a firearm, including suicides, homicides, and accidents.[12]

    Compared to 22 other high-income nations, the U.S. gun-related murder rate is 25 times higher.[13] Although it has half the population of the other 22 nations combined, the U.S. had 82 percent of all gun deaths, 90 percent of all women killed with guns, 91 percent of children under 14 and 92 percent of young people between ages 15 and 24 killed with guns.[13]

    Gun violence is most common in poor urban areas and frequently associated with gang violence, often involving male juveniles or young adult males.[14][15] Although mass shootings have been covered extensively in the media, mass shootings in the US account for a small fraction of gun-related deaths[16] and the frequency of these events steadily declined between 1994 and 2007, rising between 2007 and 2013.[17][18]

    , Congress has prohibited the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) from conducting research that advocates in favor of gun control.[19] The CDC has interpreted this ban to extend to all research on gun violence prevention, and so has not funded any research on this subject since 1996.[20]

    I stand corrected on the annual gun death number but why is it that we're not allowed to study the issue?


    24,000,000 active drinkers and 88,000 deaths  .37% Should be .0036.

    Shouldn't you move the decimal over 2 places?
    I must be stoned. You should see my check book! And no online money management for me and I still lick the stamps.

    Do you remember that time you were licking stamps and the black one got stuck on your front tooth right before the Pearl Jam show? Remember all the people that thought you only had one front tooth? And they shouted, "Yee haw! Make American great again!" to you?

    That was weird that accidental 'immersion experiment'.
    Oooottawa show?
    Lol
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • Gun-related suicides and homicides in the United States, 1999-2016[1]
    Gun-related homicide and suicide rates in high-income OECD countries, 2010, countries in graph ordered by total death rates (homicide plus suicide plus other gun-related deaths).[2]

    Gun violence in the United States results in tens of thousands of deaths and injuries annually.[3] In 2013, there were 73,505 nonfatal firearm injuries (23.2 injuries per 100,000 persons),[4][5] and 33,636 deaths due to "injury by firearms" (10.6 deaths per 100,000 persons).[6] These deaths consisted of 11,208 homicides,[7] 21,175 suicides,[6] 505 deaths due to accidental or negligent discharge of a firearm, and 281 deaths due to firearms use with "undetermined intent".[6] The ownership and control of guns are among the most widely debated issues in the country.

    In 2012, there were 8,855 total firearm-related homicides in the US, with 6,371 of those attributed to handguns.[8] In 2012, 64% of all gun-related deaths in the U.S. were suicides.[9] In 2010, there were 19,392 firearm-related suicides, and 11,078 firearm-related homicides in the U.S.[10] In 2010, 358 murders were reported involving a rifle while 6,009 were reported involving a handgun; another 1,939 were reported with an unspecified type of firearm.[11]

    Firearms were used to kill 13,286 people in the U.S. in 2015, excluding suicide.[12] Approximately 1.4 million people have died from firearms in the U.S. between 1968 and 2011. This number includes all deaths resulting from a firearm, including suicides, homicides, and accidents.[12]

    Compared to 22 other high-income nations, the U.S. gun-related murder rate is 25 times higher.[13] Although it has half the population of the other 22 nations combined, the U.S. had 82 percent of all gun deaths, 90 percent of all women killed with guns, 91 percent of children under 14 and 92 percent of young people between ages 15 and 24 killed with guns.[13]

    Gun violence is most common in poor urban areas and frequently associated with gang violence, often involving male juveniles or young adult males.[14][15] Although mass shootings have been covered extensively in the media, mass shootings in the US account for a small fraction of gun-related deaths[16] and the frequency of these events steadily declined between 1994 and 2007, rising between 2007 and 2013.[17][18]

    Legislation at the federal, state, and local levels has attempted to address gun violence through a variety of methods, including restricting firearms purchases by youths and other "at-risk" populations, setting waiting periods for firearm purchases, establishing gun buyback programs, law enforcement and policing strategies, stiff sentencing of gun law violators, education programs for parents and children, and community-outreach programs. Despite widespread concern about the impacts of gun violence on public health, Congress has prohibited the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) from conducting research that advocates in favor of gun control.[19] The CDC has interpreted this ban to extend to all research on gun violence prevention, and so has not funded any research on this subject since 1996.[20]

    I stand corrected on the annual gun death number but why is it that we're not allowed to study the issue?


    24,000,000 active drinkers and 88,000 deaths  .37% Should be .0036.

    Shouldn't you move the decimal over 2 places?
    I must be stoned. You should see my check book! And no online money management for me and I still lick the stamps.
    I went back and triple checked and it is .37%

    On a calculator you would type 88,000 and divide by 24,000,000 and have .003666.  You then move the decimal pt over 2 places to the right and round up .37%
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