America's Gun Violence

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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Recent study confirms what we already intuitively know - mass shootings with semi-automatic weapons are more deadly as they produce more victims. 

    Incidentally, this article also highlights the difficulties in doing research into gun violence in the US.

    https://www.sciencealert.com/first-of-its-kind-study-calculates-deadly-semi-automatic-rifles-gun-control-violence-firearms
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
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  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    Almost every day there is a new link in this thread showcasing more fine members of our well-regulated militia.  But no, we don't have a gun problem in MRRKKKA!
  • Now that’s what the NRA should be all about. I’m sure some on here love it though.

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/13/entertainment/thomas-the-tank-engine-nra-kkk-trnd/index.html
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    Surprised there has been no mention of this one today?  Legally armed citizen saves a cops life from someone using an illegal fully automatic firearm and not a peep?  

    https://tribunist.com/news/armed-citizen-joins-shootout-after-cop-is-shot-by-suspect-wielding-automatic-weapon/
  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    PJPOWER said:
    Surprised there has been no mention of this one today?  Legally armed citizen saves a cops life from someone using an illegal fully automatic firearm and not a peep?  

    https://tribunist.com/news/armed-citizen-joins-shootout-after-cop-is-shot-by-suspect-wielding-automatic-weapon/
    Good for him.  He wouldn't have to act if we kept fully automatic weapons out of the hands of people in the first place.
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited September 2018
    PJPOWER said:
    Surprised there has been no mention of this one today?  Legally armed citizen saves a cops life from someone using an illegal fully automatic firearm and not a peep?  

    https://tribunist.com/news/armed-citizen-joins-shootout-after-cop-is-shot-by-suspect-wielding-automatic-weapon/
    Good for him.  He wouldn't have to act if we kept fully automatic weapons out of the hands of people in the first place.
    So you think he had it legally or what?  Regulations are pretty damn strict on the ownership of fully auto weapons.
    Post edited by PJPOWER on
  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Surprised there has been no mention of this one today?  Legally armed citizen saves a cops life from someone using an illegal fully automatic firearm and not a peep?  

    https://tribunist.com/news/armed-citizen-joins-shootout-after-cop-is-shot-by-suspect-wielding-automatic-weapon/
    Good for him.  He wouldn't have to act if we kept fully automatic weapons out of the hands of people in the first place.
    So you think he had it legally or what?  Regulations are pretty damn strict on the purchase of fully auto weapons.
    The article clearly states he illegally possessed it. Yet he still possessed it.  The weapon in possession needs to be taken out of the equation so that it cannot be possessed.
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited September 2018
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Surprised there has been no mention of this one today?  Legally armed citizen saves a cops life from someone using an illegal fully automatic firearm and not a peep?  

    https://tribunist.com/news/armed-citizen-joins-shootout-after-cop-is-shot-by-suspect-wielding-automatic-weapon/
    Good for him.  He wouldn't have to act if we kept fully automatic weapons out of the hands of people in the first place.
    So you think he had it legally or what?  Regulations are pretty damn strict on the purchase of fully auto weapons.
    The article clearly states he illegally possessed it. Yet he still possessed it.  The weapon in possession needs to be taken out of the equation so that it cannot be possessed.
    And how would you suggest doing that?  It is a very strictly regulated firearm.  How would you guess he obtained it (I know it is just a guess at this point).  
    And i’m just going to also assume you know the difference between “automatic” and “semi-autimatic” weapons in regards to legally and difficulty in obtaining. I take that for granted sometimes, though.
    Post edited by PJPOWER on
  • PJPOWER said:
    Surprised there has been no mention of this one today?  Legally armed citizen saves a cops life from someone using an illegal fully automatic firearm and not a peep?  

    https://tribunist.com/news/armed-citizen-joins-shootout-after-cop-is-shot-by-suspect-wielding-automatic-weapon/
    “Responsible” until they’re not gun owners: 1,000

    ”Good Guy” with a gun: 1

    For those of you keeping score at home.
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,112
    PJPOWER said:
    Surprised there has been no mention of this one today?  Legally armed citizen saves a cops life from someone using an illegal fully automatic firearm and not a peep?  

    https://tribunist.com/news/armed-citizen-joins-shootout-after-cop-is-shot-by-suspect-wielding-automatic-weapon/
    “Responsible” until they’re not gun owners: 1,000

    ”Good Guy” with a gun: 1

    For those of you keeping score at home.
    So the lives saved by good guys with a gun don’t count?  When my governor passed another ineffective round of gun control bills he kept saying: “but if it saves merely one life it will all be worth it.”  
    Good guys with guns save lives. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mcgruff10 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Surprised there has been no mention of this one today?  Legally armed citizen saves a cops life from someone using an illegal fully automatic firearm and not a peep?  

    https://tribunist.com/news/armed-citizen-joins-shootout-after-cop-is-shot-by-suspect-wielding-automatic-weapon/
    “Responsible” until they’re not gun owners: 1,000

    ”Good Guy” with a gun: 1

    For those of you keeping score at home.
    So the lives saved by good guys with a gun don’t count?  When my governor passed another ineffective round of gun control bills he kept saying: “but if it saves merely one life it will all be worth it.”  
    Good guys with guns save lives. 
    How'd the bad guy get the gun?
    hippiemom = goodness
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,112
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Surprised there has been no mention of this one today?  Legally armed citizen saves a cops life from someone using an illegal fully automatic firearm and not a peep?  

    https://tribunist.com/news/armed-citizen-joins-shootout-after-cop-is-shot-by-suspect-wielding-automatic-weapon/
    “Responsible” until they’re not gun owners: 1,000

    ”Good Guy” with a gun: 1

    For those of you keeping score at home.
    So the lives saved by good guys with a gun don’t count?  When my governor passed another ineffective round of gun control bills he kept saying: “but if it saves merely one life it will all be worth it.”  
    Good guys with guns save lives. 
    How'd the bad guy get the gun?
    Which one?
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mcgruff10 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Surprised there has been no mention of this one today?  Legally armed citizen saves a cops life from someone using an illegal fully automatic firearm and not a peep?  

    https://tribunist.com/news/armed-citizen-joins-shootout-after-cop-is-shot-by-suspect-wielding-automatic-weapon/
    “Responsible” until they’re not gun owners: 1,000

    ”Good Guy” with a gun: 1

    For those of you keeping score at home.
    So the lives saved by good guys with a gun don’t count?  When my governor passed another ineffective round of gun control bills he kept saying: “but if it saves merely one life it will all be worth it.”  
    Good guys with guns save lives. 
    Didn’t say that. 
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  • mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Surprised there has been no mention of this one today?  Legally armed citizen saves a cops life from someone using an illegal fully automatic firearm and not a peep?  

    https://tribunist.com/news/armed-citizen-joins-shootout-after-cop-is-shot-by-suspect-wielding-automatic-weapon/
    “Responsible” until they’re not gun owners: 1,000

    ”Good Guy” with a gun: 1

    For those of you keeping score at home.
    So the lives saved by good guys with a gun don’t count?  When my governor passed another ineffective round of gun control bills he kept saying: “but if it saves merely one life it will all be worth it.”  
    Good guys with guns save lives. 
    How'd the bad guy get the gun?
    Which one?
    great question since there are way too many.  BUt I meant in the case where the good guy stepped in and helped the cops.
    hippiemom = goodness
  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Surprised there has been no mention of this one today?  Legally armed citizen saves a cops life from someone using an illegal fully automatic firearm and not a peep?  

    https://tribunist.com/news/armed-citizen-joins-shootout-after-cop-is-shot-by-suspect-wielding-automatic-weapon/
    Good for him.  He wouldn't have to act if we kept fully automatic weapons out of the hands of people in the first place.
    So you think he had it legally or what?  Regulations are pretty damn strict on the purchase of fully auto weapons.
    The article clearly states he illegally possessed it. Yet he still possessed it.  The weapon in possession needs to be taken out of the equation so that it cannot be possessed.
    And how would you suggest doing that?  It is a very strictly regulated firearm.  How would you guess he obtained it (I know it is just a guess at this point).  
    And i’m just going to also assume you know the difference between “automatic” and “semi-autimatic” weapons in regards to legally and difficulty in obtaining. I take that for granted sometimes, though.
    Yeah, I know the difference between fully and semi auto. I'm not sure what to suggest to eliminate fully auto weapons. That's what I supposedly elect my congressmen to figure out.
  • Who’s bought one? Who wants one? What other countries have a market? Maybe the Israeli backpack bullet proof vest lobby can partner with the US gun lobby and both sides can be rich. Can I hear chants of “we’re number one?

    http://www.providencejournal.com/zz/news/20180914/this-school-backpack-transforms-into-bulletproof-vest
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  • mcgruff10 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Surprised there has been no mention of this one today?  Legally armed citizen saves a cops life from someone using an illegal fully automatic firearm and not a peep?  

    https://tribunist.com/news/armed-citizen-joins-shootout-after-cop-is-shot-by-suspect-wielding-automatic-weapon/
    “Responsible” until they’re not gun owners: 1,000

    ”Good Guy” with a gun: 1

    For those of you keeping score at home.
    So the lives saved by good guys with a gun don’t count?  When my governor passed another ineffective round of gun control bills he kept saying: “but if it saves merely one life it will all be worth it.”  
    Good guys with guns save lives. 

    It's inevitable- with all the gun activity in the US- that someone with a gun saves someone else from a gun. These moments are not moments to celebrate or flaunt as 'small victories' for the pro gun crowd.

    More guns equals more deaths by guns. It's really that simple. 
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • mcgruff10 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Surprised there has been no mention of this one today?  Legally armed citizen saves a cops life from someone using an illegal fully automatic firearm and not a peep?  

    https://tribunist.com/news/armed-citizen-joins-shootout-after-cop-is-shot-by-suspect-wielding-automatic-weapon/
    “Responsible” until they’re not gun owners: 1,000

    ”Good Guy” with a gun: 1

    For those of you keeping score at home.
    So the lives saved by good guys with a gun don’t count?  When my governor passed another ineffective round of gun control bills he kept saying: “but if it saves merely one life it will all be worth it.”  
    Good guys with guns save lives. 
    Get out of the NRA-sponsored hole you're in.

    Why do we have so much less gun crime in Sweden, when we don't have "good guys" with guns? 
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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