America's Gun Violence

Thirty Bills Unpaid

mcgruff10 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

mcgruff10 said:

mickeyrat said:

stuckinline said:

When will this shit end?
https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/17/us/new-jersey-art-festival-shooting/index.html

this seems to be a gunfight over stupid shit.

not that the festival was a target.

That's what i figured.  
I am sure the shooter went through all the proper background checks, fingerprinted, got a referral from his boss and had a current firearms id card.

Scruffy are you being sarcastic?

But of course (although that is what you actually have to go through in nj to get a firearm).  He was a known gang member who just got out of jail for homicide; legally he can't even own a firearm.

Just checking.

Are you rocking the high seas these days?

mcgruff10

PJPOWER said:

mcgruff10 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

mcgruff10 said:

mickeyrat said:

stuckinline said:

When will this shit end?
https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/17/us/new-jersey-art-festival-shooting/index.html

this seems to be a gunfight over stupid shit.

not that the festival was a target.

That's what i figured.  
I am sure the shooter went through all the proper background checks, fingerprinted, got a referral from his boss and had a current firearms id card.

Scruffy are you being sarcastic?

But of course (although that is what you actually have to go through in nj to get a firearm).  He was a known gang member who just got out of jail for homicide; legally he can't even own a firearm.

I’d be willing to bet that gun laws weren’t even on the gangsta’s radar. 

Yeah I believe he had an extended mag which are illegal in the people's republic of new jersey.
PJpower you'll love this: nj just changed their tight gun laws yet again to 10 rounds max.  So I know have to either forfeit all my 15 round mags or pay to get them blocked.  I hate this state.

PJPOWER

mcgruff10 said:

PJPOWER said:

mcgruff10 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

mcgruff10 said:

mickeyrat said:

stuckinline said:

When will this shit end?
https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/17/us/new-jersey-art-festival-shooting/index.html

this seems to be a gunfight over stupid shit.

not that the festival was a target.

That's what i figured.  
I am sure the shooter went through all the proper background checks, fingerprinted, got a referral from his boss and had a current firearms id card.

Scruffy are you being sarcastic?

But of course (although that is what you actually have to go through in nj to get a firearm).  He was a known gang member who just got out of jail for homicide; legally he can't even own a firearm.

I’d be willing to bet that gun laws weren’t even on the gangsta’s radar. 

Yeah I believe he had an extended mag which are illegal in the people's republic of new jersey.
PJpower you'll love this: nj just changed their tight gun laws yet again to 10 rounds max.  So I know have to either forfeit all my 15 round mags or pay to get them blocked.  I hate this state.

I’m sure all residents are good little law abiding citizens like you and will comply with those magazine laws.  How are the authorities going to even know who is complying and who is not?  I’m guessing they are not going door to door checking everything everyone owns...I bet it makes someone feel good, though.  Gotta pander to the gun control crowd’s feelings now and then when not actually doing anything to make a difference.   

mcgruff10

PJPOWER said:

mcgruff10 said:

PJPOWER said:

mcgruff10 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

mcgruff10 said:

mickeyrat said:

stuckinline said:

When will this shit end?
https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/17/us/new-jersey-art-festival-shooting/index.html

this seems to be a gunfight over stupid shit.

not that the festival was a target.

That's what i figured.  
I am sure the shooter went through all the proper background checks, fingerprinted, got a referral from his boss and had a current firearms id card.

Scruffy are you being sarcastic?

But of course (although that is what you actually have to go through in nj to get a firearm).  He was a known gang member who just got out of jail for homicide; legally he can't even own a firearm.

I’d be willing to bet that gun laws weren’t even on the gangsta’s radar. 

Yeah I believe he had an extended mag which are illegal in the people's republic of new jersey.
PJpower you'll love this: nj just changed their tight gun laws yet again to 10 rounds max.  So I know have to either forfeit all my 15 round mags or pay to get them blocked.  I hate this state.

I’m sure all residents are good little law abiding citizens like you and will comply with those magazine laws.  How are the authorities going to even know who is complying and who is not?  I’m guessing they are not going door to door checking everything everyone owns...I bet it makes someone feel good, though.  Gotta pander to the gun control crowd’s feelings now and then when not actually doing anything to make a difference.   

Exactly, it's such a dumb feel good law.  I'll just buy new mags for the range.  

PJPOWER

Wild Wild West in WA State.  Good job good guys!
https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/police-armed-civilian-took-down-shooter-at-washington-state-walmart/771791480

bootlegger10

PJPOWER said:

mcgruff10 said:

PJPOWER said:

mcgruff10 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

mcgruff10 said:

mickeyrat said:

stuckinline said:

When will this shit end?
https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/17/us/new-jersey-art-festival-shooting/index.html

this seems to be a gunfight over stupid shit.

not that the festival was a target.

That's what i figured.  
I am sure the shooter went through all the proper background checks, fingerprinted, got a referral from his boss and had a current firearms id card.

Scruffy are you being sarcastic?

But of course (although that is what you actually have to go through in nj to get a firearm).  He was a known gang member who just got out of jail for homicide; legally he can't even own a firearm.

I’d be willing to bet that gun laws weren’t even on the gangsta’s radar. 

Yeah I believe he had an extended mag which are illegal in the people's republic of new jersey.
PJpower you'll love this: nj just changed their tight gun laws yet again to 10 rounds max.  So I know have to either forfeit all my 15 round mags or pay to get them blocked.  I hate this state.

I’m sure all residents are good little law abiding citizens like you and will comply with those magazine laws.  How are the authorities going to even know who is complying and who is not?  I’m guessing they are not going door to door checking everything everyone owns...I bet it makes someone feel good, though.  Gotta pander to the gun control crowd’s feelings now and then when not actually doing anything to make a difference.   

That is why I am a big proponent of H-Bombs for all.  If criminals can get their hands on them, we might as well make them legal then.  Same with bank robberies.  Criminals do them so let's just make it legal for all.  Give me your address and I'm going to steal your TV and valuables since that is currently illegal, but in your world there is no need for laws if people just break them.

PJPOWER

mcgruff10 said:

PJPOWER said:

mcgruff10 said:

PJPOWER said:

mcgruff10 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

mcgruff10 said:

mickeyrat said:

stuckinline said:

When will this shit end?
https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/17/us/new-jersey-art-festival-shooting/index.html

this seems to be a gunfight over stupid shit.

not that the festival was a target.

That's what i figured.  
I am sure the shooter went through all the proper background checks, fingerprinted, got a referral from his boss and had a current firearms id card.

Scruffy are you being sarcastic?

But of course (although that is what you actually have to go through in nj to get a firearm).  He was a known gang member who just got out of jail for homicide; legally he can't even own a firearm.

I’d be willing to bet that gun laws weren’t even on the gangsta’s radar. 

Yeah I believe he had an extended mag which are illegal in the people's republic of new jersey.
PJpower you'll love this: nj just changed their tight gun laws yet again to 10 rounds max.  So I know have to either forfeit all my 15 round mags or pay to get them blocked.  I hate this state.

I’m sure all residents are good little law abiding citizens like you and will comply with those magazine laws.  How are the authorities going to even know who is complying and who is not?  I’m guessing they are not going door to door checking everything everyone owns...I bet it makes someone feel good, though.  Gotta pander to the gun control crowd’s feelings now and then when not actually doing anything to make a difference.   

Exactly, it's such a dumb feel good law.  I'll just buy new mags for the range.  

Just mark the old ones as 458 SOCOM mags, lol. 

PJPOWER

bootlegger10 said:

PJPOWER said:

mcgruff10 said:

PJPOWER said:

mcgruff10 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

mcgruff10 said:

mickeyrat said:

stuckinline said:

When will this shit end?
https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/17/us/new-jersey-art-festival-shooting/index.html

this seems to be a gunfight over stupid shit.

not that the festival was a target.

That's what i figured.  
I am sure the shooter went through all the proper background checks, fingerprinted, got a referral from his boss and had a current firearms id card.

Scruffy are you being sarcastic?

But of course (although that is what you actually have to go through in nj to get a firearm).  He was a known gang member who just got out of jail for homicide; legally he can't even own a firearm.

I’d be willing to bet that gun laws weren’t even on the gangsta’s radar. 

Yeah I believe he had an extended mag which are illegal in the people's republic of new jersey.
PJpower you'll love this: nj just changed their tight gun laws yet again to 10 rounds max.  So I know have to either forfeit all my 15 round mags or pay to get them blocked.  I hate this state.

I’m sure all residents are good little law abiding citizens like you and will comply with those magazine laws.  How are the authorities going to even know who is complying and who is not?  I’m guessing they are not going door to door checking everything everyone owns...I bet it makes someone feel good, though.  Gotta pander to the gun control crowd’s feelings now and then when not actually doing anything to make a difference.   

That is why I am a big proponent of H-Bombs for all.  If criminals can get their hands on them, we might as well make them legal then.  Same with bank robberies.  Criminals do them so let's just make it legal for all.  Give me your address and I'm going to steal your TV and valuables since that is currently illegal, but in your world there is no need for laws if people just break them.

No, I understand the need for laws, just not ones that absolutely cannot be enforced.
Also not a fan of laws that essentially turn someone into a criminal for possession of something they purchased legally.  Thanks again captain exaggeration.

mcgruff10

PJPOWER said:

mcgruff10 said:

PJPOWER said:

mcgruff10 said:

PJPOWER said:

mcgruff10 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

mcgruff10 said:

mickeyrat said:

stuckinline said:

When will this shit end?
https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/17/us/new-jersey-art-festival-shooting/index.html

this seems to be a gunfight over stupid shit.

not that the festival was a target.

That's what i figured.  
I am sure the shooter went through all the proper background checks, fingerprinted, got a referral from his boss and had a current firearms id card.

Scruffy are you being sarcastic?

But of course (although that is what you actually have to go through in nj to get a firearm).  He was a known gang member who just got out of jail for homicide; legally he can't even own a firearm.

I’d be willing to bet that gun laws weren’t even on the gangsta’s radar. 

Yeah I believe he had an extended mag which are illegal in the people's republic of new jersey.
PJpower you'll love this: nj just changed their tight gun laws yet again to 10 rounds max.  So I know have to either forfeit all my 15 round mags or pay to get them blocked.  I hate this state.

I’m sure all residents are good little law abiding citizens like you and will comply with those magazine laws.  How are the authorities going to even know who is complying and who is not?  I’m guessing they are not going door to door checking everything everyone owns...I bet it makes someone feel good, though.  Gotta pander to the gun control crowd’s feelings now and then when not actually doing anything to make a difference.   

Exactly, it's such a dumb feel good law.  I'll just buy new mags for the range.  

Just mark the old ones as 458 SOCOM mags, lol. 

Will do! lol

PJPOWER

mcgruff10 said:

PJPOWER said:

mcgruff10 said:

PJPOWER said:

mcgruff10 said:

PJPOWER said:

mcgruff10 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

mcgruff10 said:

mickeyrat said:

stuckinline said:

When will this shit end?
https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/17/us/new-jersey-art-festival-shooting/index.html

this seems to be a gunfight over stupid shit.

not that the festival was a target.

That's what i figured.  
I am sure the shooter went through all the proper background checks, fingerprinted, got a referral from his boss and had a current firearms id card.

Scruffy are you being sarcastic?

But of course (although that is what you actually have to go through in nj to get a firearm).  He was a known gang member who just got out of jail for homicide; legally he can't even own a firearm.

I’d be willing to bet that gun laws weren’t even on the gangsta’s radar. 

Yeah I believe he had an extended mag which are illegal in the people's republic of new jersey.
PJpower you'll love this: nj just changed their tight gun laws yet again to 10 rounds max.  So I know have to either forfeit all my 15 round mags or pay to get them blocked.  I hate this state.

I’m sure all residents are good little law abiding citizens like you and will comply with those magazine laws.  How are the authorities going to even know who is complying and who is not?  I’m guessing they are not going door to door checking everything everyone owns...I bet it makes someone feel good, though.  Gotta pander to the gun control crowd’s feelings now and then when not actually doing anything to make a difference.   

Exactly, it's such a dumb feel good law.  I'll just buy new mags for the range.  

Just mark the old ones as 458 SOCOM mags, lol. 

Will do! lol

I think they even sell stickers to distinguish your 10 round .458 mags from your 30 round .223 mags.  Don’t want those to get mixed up, lol

HesCalledDyer

PJPOWER said:

bootlegger10 said:

PJPOWER said:

mcgruff10 said:

PJPOWER said:

mcgruff10 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

mcgruff10 said:

mickeyrat said:

stuckinline said:

When will this shit end?
https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/17/us/new-jersey-art-festival-shooting/index.html

this seems to be a gunfight over stupid shit.

not that the festival was a target.

That's what i figured.  
I am sure the shooter went through all the proper background checks, fingerprinted, got a referral from his boss and had a current firearms id card.

Scruffy are you being sarcastic?

But of course (although that is what you actually have to go through in nj to get a firearm).  He was a known gang member who just got out of jail for homicide; legally he can't even own a firearm.

I’d be willing to bet that gun laws weren’t even on the gangsta’s radar. 

Yeah I believe he had an extended mag which are illegal in the people's republic of new jersey.
PJpower you'll love this: nj just changed their tight gun laws yet again to 10 rounds max.  So I know have to either forfeit all my 15 round mags or pay to get them blocked.  I hate this state.

I’m sure all residents are good little law abiding citizens like you and will comply with those magazine laws.  How are the authorities going to even know who is complying and who is not?  I’m guessing they are not going door to door checking everything everyone owns...I bet it makes someone feel good, though.  Gotta pander to the gun control crowd’s feelings now and then when not actually doing anything to make a difference.   

That is why I am a big proponent of H-Bombs for all.  If criminals can get their hands on them, we might as well make them legal then.  Same with bank robberies.  Criminals do them so let's just make it legal for all.  Give me your address and I'm going to steal your TV and valuables since that is currently illegal, but in your world there is no need for laws if people just break them.

No, I understand the need for laws, just not ones that absolutely cannot be enforced.
Also not a fan of laws that essentially turn someone into a criminal for possession of something they purchased legally.  Thanks again captain exaggeration.

You only support laws when they conveniently line with your opinion.

dignin

PJPOWER said:

bootlegger10 said:

PJPOWER said:

mcgruff10 said:

PJPOWER said:

mcgruff10 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

mcgruff10 said:

mickeyrat said:

stuckinline said:

When will this shit end?
https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/17/us/new-jersey-art-festival-shooting/index.html

this seems to be a gunfight over stupid shit.

not that the festival was a target.

That's what i figured.  
I am sure the shooter went through all the proper background checks, fingerprinted, got a referral from his boss and had a current firearms id card.

Scruffy are you being sarcastic?

But of course (although that is what you actually have to go through in nj to get a firearm).  He was a known gang member who just got out of jail for homicide; legally he can't even own a firearm.

I’d be willing to bet that gun laws weren’t even on the gangsta’s radar. 

Yeah I believe he had an extended mag which are illegal in the people's republic of new jersey.
PJpower you'll love this: nj just changed their tight gun laws yet again to 10 rounds max.  So I know have to either forfeit all my 15 round mags or pay to get them blocked.  I hate this state.

I’m sure all residents are good little law abiding citizens like you and will comply with those magazine laws.  How are the authorities going to even know who is complying and who is not?  I’m guessing they are not going door to door checking everything everyone owns...I bet it makes someone feel good, though.  Gotta pander to the gun control crowd’s feelings now and then when not actually doing anything to make a difference.   

That is why I am a big proponent of H-Bombs for all.  If criminals can get their hands on them, we might as well make them legal then.  Same with bank robberies.  Criminals do them so let's just make it legal for all.  Give me your address and I'm going to steal your TV and valuables since that is currently illegal, but in your world there is no need for laws if people just break them.

No, I understand the need for laws, just not ones that absolutely cannot be enforced.
Also not a fan of laws that essentially turn someone into a criminal for possession of something they purchased legally.  Thanks again captain exaggeration.

Here's a quick pro tip, when someone commits a crime with a banned weapon or accessory they will probably have added charges and jail time. Does that make you feel better?

mcgruff10

dignin said:

PJPOWER said:

bootlegger10 said:

PJPOWER said:

mcgruff10 said:

PJPOWER said:

mcgruff10 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

mcgruff10 said:

mickeyrat said:

stuckinline said:

When will this shit end?
https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/17/us/new-jersey-art-festival-shooting/index.html

this seems to be a gunfight over stupid shit.

not that the festival was a target.

That's what i figured.  
I am sure the shooter went through all the proper background checks, fingerprinted, got a referral from his boss and had a current firearms id card.

Scruffy are you being sarcastic?

But of course (although that is what you actually have to go through in nj to get a firearm).  He was a known gang member who just got out of jail for homicide; legally he can't even own a firearm.

I’d be willing to bet that gun laws weren’t even on the gangsta’s radar. 

Yeah I believe he had an extended mag which are illegal in the people's republic of new jersey.
PJpower you'll love this: nj just changed their tight gun laws yet again to 10 rounds max.  So I know have to either forfeit all my 15 round mags or pay to get them blocked.  I hate this state.

I’m sure all residents are good little law abiding citizens like you and will comply with those magazine laws.  How are the authorities going to even know who is complying and who is not?  I’m guessing they are not going door to door checking everything everyone owns...I bet it makes someone feel good, though.  Gotta pander to the gun control crowd’s feelings now and then when not actually doing anything to make a difference.   

That is why I am a big proponent of H-Bombs for all.  If criminals can get their hands on them, we might as well make them legal then.  Same with bank robberies.  Criminals do them so let's just make it legal for all.  Give me your address and I'm going to steal your TV and valuables since that is currently illegal, but in your world there is no need for laws if people just break them.

No, I understand the need for laws, just not ones that absolutely cannot be enforced.
Also not a fan of laws that essentially turn someone into a criminal for possession of something they purchased legally.  Thanks again captain exaggeration.

Here's a quick pro tip, when someone commits a crime with a banned weapon or accessory they will probably have added charges and jail time. Does that make you feel better?

I have zero problem with that.  I do have a problem that these new laws have effectively made hundreds of thousands of gun owners criminals after they were purchased legally. 

dignin

mcgruff10 said:

dignin said:

PJPOWER said:

bootlegger10 said:

PJPOWER said:

mcgruff10 said:

PJPOWER said:

mcgruff10 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

mcgruff10 said:

mickeyrat said:

stuckinline said:

When will this shit end?
https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/17/us/new-jersey-art-festival-shooting/index.html

this seems to be a gunfight over stupid shit.

not that the festival was a target.

That's what i figured.  
I am sure the shooter went through all the proper background checks, fingerprinted, got a referral from his boss and had a current firearms id card.

Scruffy are you being sarcastic?

But of course (although that is what you actually have to go through in nj to get a firearm).  He was a known gang member who just got out of jail for homicide; legally he can't even own a firearm.

I’d be willing to bet that gun laws weren’t even on the gangsta’s radar. 

Yeah I believe he had an extended mag which are illegal in the people's republic of new jersey.
PJpower you'll love this: nj just changed their tight gun laws yet again to 10 rounds max.  So I know have to either forfeit all my 15 round mags or pay to get them blocked.  I hate this state.

I’m sure all residents are good little law abiding citizens like you and will comply with those magazine laws.  How are the authorities going to even know who is complying and who is not?  I’m guessing they are not going door to door checking everything everyone owns...I bet it makes someone feel good, though.  Gotta pander to the gun control crowd’s feelings now and then when not actually doing anything to make a difference.   

That is why I am a big proponent of H-Bombs for all.  If criminals can get their hands on them, we might as well make them legal then.  Same with bank robberies.  Criminals do them so let's just make it legal for all.  Give me your address and I'm going to steal your TV and valuables since that is currently illegal, but in your world there is no need for laws if people just break them.

No, I understand the need for laws, just not ones that absolutely cannot be enforced.
Also not a fan of laws that essentially turn someone into a criminal for possession of something they purchased legally.  Thanks again captain exaggeration.

Here's a quick pro tip, when someone commits a crime with a banned weapon or accessory they will probably have added charges and jail time. Does that make you feel better?

I have zero problem with that.  I do have a problem that these new laws have effectively made hundreds of thousands of gun owners criminals after they were purchased legally. 

Is there any kind of buyback program? And if there is not I'm sure they give you a certain window of time to turn in the weapons/accessories to comply with the law. If they don't then I could see why people would be pissed.

mcgruff10

dignin said:

mcgruff10 said:

dignin said:

PJPOWER said:

bootlegger10 said:

PJPOWER said:

mcgruff10 said:

PJPOWER said:

mcgruff10 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

mcgruff10 said:

mickeyrat said:

stuckinline said:

When will this shit end?
https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/17/us/new-jersey-art-festival-shooting/index.html

this seems to be a gunfight over stupid shit.

not that the festival was a target.

That's what i figured.  
I am sure the shooter went through all the proper background checks, fingerprinted, got a referral from his boss and had a current firearms id card.

Scruffy are you being sarcastic?

But of course (although that is what you actually have to go through in nj to get a firearm).  He was a known gang member who just got out of jail for homicide; legally he can't even own a firearm.

I’d be willing to bet that gun laws weren’t even on the gangsta’s radar. 

Yeah I believe he had an extended mag which are illegal in the people's republic of new jersey.
PJpower you'll love this: nj just changed their tight gun laws yet again to 10 rounds max.  So I know have to either forfeit all my 15 round mags or pay to get them blocked.  I hate this state.

I’m sure all residents are good little law abiding citizens like you and will comply with those magazine laws.  How are the authorities going to even know who is complying and who is not?  I’m guessing they are not going door to door checking everything everyone owns...I bet it makes someone feel good, though.  Gotta pander to the gun control crowd’s feelings now and then when not actually doing anything to make a difference.   

That is why I am a big proponent of H-Bombs for all.  If criminals can get their hands on them, we might as well make them legal then.  Same with bank robberies.  Criminals do them so let's just make it legal for all.  Give me your address and I'm going to steal your TV and valuables since that is currently illegal, but in your world there is no need for laws if people just break them.

No, I understand the need for laws, just not ones that absolutely cannot be enforced.
Also not a fan of laws that essentially turn someone into a criminal for possession of something they purchased legally.  Thanks again captain exaggeration.

Here's a quick pro tip, when someone commits a crime with a banned weapon or accessory they will probably have added charges and jail time. Does that make you feel better?

I have zero problem with that.  I do have a problem that these new laws have effectively made hundreds of thousands of gun owners criminals after they were purchased legally. 

Is there any kind of buyback program? And if there is not I'm sure they give you a certain window of time to turn in the weapons/accessories to comply with the law. If they don't then I could see why people would be pissed.

No buyback program bud. If I want to block the mag to 10 rounds it cost $20 a mag. Some magazines you can block and others you can not so they are useless. I believe I have three months but I am not sure of it.
Some of these mags cost me a pretty penny so I am definitely not happy.  

PJPOWER

HesCalledDyer said:

PJPOWER said:

bootlegger10 said:

PJPOWER said:

mcgruff10 said:

PJPOWER said:

mcgruff10 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

mcgruff10 said:

mickeyrat said:

stuckinline said:

When will this shit end?
https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/17/us/new-jersey-art-festival-shooting/index.html

this seems to be a gunfight over stupid shit.

not that the festival was a target.

That's what i figured.  
I am sure the shooter went through all the proper background checks, fingerprinted, got a referral from his boss and had a current firearms id card.

Scruffy are you being sarcastic?

But of course (although that is what you actually have to go through in nj to get a firearm).  He was a known gang member who just got out of jail for homicide; legally he can't even own a firearm.

I’d be willing to bet that gun laws weren’t even on the gangsta’s radar. 

Yeah I believe he had an extended mag which are illegal in the people's republic of new jersey.
PJpower you'll love this: nj just changed their tight gun laws yet again to 10 rounds max.  So I know have to either forfeit all my 15 round mags or pay to get them blocked.  I hate this state.

I’m sure all residents are good little law abiding citizens like you and will comply with those magazine laws.  How are the authorities going to even know who is complying and who is not?  I’m guessing they are not going door to door checking everything everyone owns...I bet it makes someone feel good, though.  Gotta pander to the gun control crowd’s feelings now and then when not actually doing anything to make a difference.   

That is why I am a big proponent of H-Bombs for all.  If criminals can get their hands on them, we might as well make them legal then.  Same with bank robberies.  Criminals do them so let's just make it legal for all.  Give me your address and I'm going to steal your TV and valuables since that is currently illegal, but in your world there is no need for laws if people just break them.

No, I understand the need for laws, just not ones that absolutely cannot be enforced.
Also not a fan of laws that essentially turn someone into a criminal for possession of something they purchased legally.  Thanks again captain exaggeration.

You only support laws when they conveniently line with your opinion.

And do you support laws that are not in line with your opinion?  Lol

mickeyrat

mcgruff10 said:

dignin said:

mcgruff10 said:

dignin said:

PJPOWER said:

bootlegger10 said:

PJPOWER said:

mcgruff10 said:

PJPOWER said:

mcgruff10 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

mcgruff10 said:

mickeyrat said:

stuckinline said:

When will this shit end?
https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/17/us/new-jersey-art-festival-shooting/index.html

this seems to be a gunfight over stupid shit.

not that the festival was a target.

That's what i figured.  
I am sure the shooter went through all the proper background checks, fingerprinted, got a referral from his boss and had a current firearms id card.

Scruffy are you being sarcastic?

But of course (although that is what you actually have to go through in nj to get a firearm).  He was a known gang member who just got out of jail for homicide; legally he can't even own a firearm.

I’d be willing to bet that gun laws weren’t even on the gangsta’s radar. 

Yeah I believe he had an extended mag which are illegal in the people's republic of new jersey.
PJpower you'll love this: nj just changed their tight gun laws yet again to 10 rounds max.  So I know have to either forfeit all my 15 round mags or pay to get them blocked.  I hate this state.

I’m sure all residents are good little law abiding citizens like you and will comply with those magazine laws.  How are the authorities going to even know who is complying and who is not?  I’m guessing they are not going door to door checking everything everyone owns...I bet it makes someone feel good, though.  Gotta pander to the gun control crowd’s feelings now and then when not actually doing anything to make a difference.   

That is why I am a big proponent of H-Bombs for all.  If criminals can get their hands on them, we might as well make them legal then.  Same with bank robberies.  Criminals do them so let's just make it legal for all.  Give me your address and I'm going to steal your TV and valuables since that is currently illegal, but in your world there is no need for laws if people just break them.

No, I understand the need for laws, just not ones that absolutely cannot be enforced.
Also not a fan of laws that essentially turn someone into a criminal for possession of something they purchased legally.  Thanks again captain exaggeration.

Here's a quick pro tip, when someone commits a crime with a banned weapon or accessory they will probably have added charges and jail time. Does that make you feel better?

I have zero problem with that.  I do have a problem that these new laws have effectively made hundreds of thousands of gun owners criminals after they were purchased legally. 

Is there any kind of buyback program? And if there is not I'm sure they give you a certain window of time to turn in the weapons/accessories to comply with the law. If they don't then I could see why people would be pissed.

No buyback program bud. If I want to block the mag to 10 rounds it cost $20 a mag. Some magazines you can block and others you can not so they are useless. I believe I have three months but I am not sure of it.
Some of these mags cost me a pretty penny so I am definitely not happy.  

can those be resold out of state through  a dealer?

PJPOWER

mcgruff10 said:

dignin said:

PJPOWER said:

bootlegger10 said:

PJPOWER said:

mcgruff10 said:

PJPOWER said:

mcgruff10 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

mcgruff10 said:

mickeyrat said:

stuckinline said:

When will this shit end?
https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/17/us/new-jersey-art-festival-shooting/index.html

this seems to be a gunfight over stupid shit.

not that the festival was a target.

That's what i figured.  
I am sure the shooter went through all the proper background checks, fingerprinted, got a referral from his boss and had a current firearms id card.

Scruffy are you being sarcastic?

But of course (although that is what you actually have to go through in nj to get a firearm).  He was a known gang member who just got out of jail for homicide; legally he can't even own a firearm.

I’d be willing to bet that gun laws weren’t even on the gangsta’s radar. 

Yeah I believe he had an extended mag which are illegal in the people's republic of new jersey.
PJpower you'll love this: nj just changed their tight gun laws yet again to 10 rounds max.  So I know have to either forfeit all my 15 round mags or pay to get them blocked.  I hate this state.

I’m sure all residents are good little law abiding citizens like you and will comply with those magazine laws.  How are the authorities going to even know who is complying and who is not?  I’m guessing they are not going door to door checking everything everyone owns...I bet it makes someone feel good, though.  Gotta pander to the gun control crowd’s feelings now and then when not actually doing anything to make a difference.   

That is why I am a big proponent of H-Bombs for all.  If criminals can get their hands on them, we might as well make them legal then.  Same with bank robberies.  Criminals do them so let's just make it legal for all.  Give me your address and I'm going to steal your TV and valuables since that is currently illegal, but in your world there is no need for laws if people just break them.

No, I understand the need for laws, just not ones that absolutely cannot be enforced.
Also not a fan of laws that essentially turn someone into a criminal for possession of something they purchased legally.  Thanks again captain exaggeration.

Here's a quick pro tip, when someone commits a crime with a banned weapon or accessory they will probably have added charges and jail time. Does that make you feel better?

I have zero problem with that.  I do have a problem that these new laws have effectively made hundreds of thousands of gun owners criminals after they were purchased legally. 

Exactly!  I know we were joking about I earlier, but what about calibers that use the same mags (.458 socom and .223)?  If it were labeled a .458 SOCOM mag, would it be legal since it can only hold 10 rounds of that caliber?  There are so many loopholes...but if it makes people feel good, then I guess it is a good law.

mcgruff10

mickeyrat said:

mcgruff10 said:

dignin said:

mcgruff10 said:

dignin said:

PJPOWER said:

bootlegger10 said:

PJPOWER said:

mcgruff10 said:

PJPOWER said:

mcgruff10 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

mcgruff10 said:

mickeyrat said:

stuckinline said:

When will this shit end?
https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/17/us/new-jersey-art-festival-shooting/index.html

this seems to be a gunfight over stupid shit.

not that the festival was a target.

That's what i figured.  
I am sure the shooter went through all the proper background checks, fingerprinted, got a referral from his boss and had a current firearms id card.

Scruffy are you being sarcastic?

But of course (although that is what you actually have to go through in nj to get a firearm).  He was a known gang member who just got out of jail for homicide; legally he can't even own a firearm.

I’d be willing to bet that gun laws weren’t even on the gangsta’s radar. 

Yeah I believe he had an extended mag which are illegal in the people's republic of new jersey.
PJpower you'll love this: nj just changed their tight gun laws yet again to 10 rounds max.  So I know have to either forfeit all my 15 round mags or pay to get them blocked.  I hate this state.

I’m sure all residents are good little law abiding citizens like you and will comply with those magazine laws.  How are the authorities going to even know who is complying and who is not?  I’m guessing they are not going door to door checking everything everyone owns...I bet it makes someone feel good, though.  Gotta pander to the gun control crowd’s feelings now and then when not actually doing anything to make a difference.   

That is why I am a big proponent of H-Bombs for all.  If criminals can get their hands on them, we might as well make them legal then.  Same with bank robberies.  Criminals do them so let's just make it legal for all.  Give me your address and I'm going to steal your TV and valuables since that is currently illegal, but in your world there is no need for laws if people just break them.

No, I understand the need for laws, just not ones that absolutely cannot be enforced.
Also not a fan of laws that essentially turn someone into a criminal for possession of something they purchased legally.  Thanks again captain exaggeration.

Here's a quick pro tip, when someone commits a crime with a banned weapon or accessory they will probably have added charges and jail time. Does that make you feel better?

I have zero problem with that.  I do have a problem that these new laws have effectively made hundreds of thousands of gun owners criminals after they were purchased legally. 

Is there any kind of buyback program? And if there is not I'm sure they give you a certain window of time to turn in the weapons/accessories to comply with the law. If they don't then I could see why people would be pissed.

No buyback program bud. If I want to block the mag to 10 rounds it cost $20 a mag. Some magazines you can block and others you can not so they are useless. I believe I have three months but I am not sure of it.
Some of these mags cost me a pretty penny so I am definitely not happy.  

can those be resold out of state through  a dealer?

Yeah I'm sure I could just sell them on eBay (which actually might be a good idea).

mcgruff10

PJPOWER said:

mcgruff10 said:

dignin said:

PJPOWER said:

bootlegger10 said:

PJPOWER said:

mcgruff10 said:

PJPOWER said:

mcgruff10 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

mcgruff10 said:

mickeyrat said:

stuckinline said:

When will this shit end?
https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/17/us/new-jersey-art-festival-shooting/index.html

this seems to be a gunfight over stupid shit.

not that the festival was a target.

That's what i figured.  
I am sure the shooter went through all the proper background checks, fingerprinted, got a referral from his boss and had a current firearms id card.

Scruffy are you being sarcastic?

But of course (although that is what you actually have to go through in nj to get a firearm).  He was a known gang member who just got out of jail for homicide; legally he can't even own a firearm.

I’d be willing to bet that gun laws weren’t even on the gangsta’s radar. 

Yeah I believe he had an extended mag which are illegal in the people's republic of new jersey.
PJpower you'll love this: nj just changed their tight gun laws yet again to 10 rounds max.  So I know have to either forfeit all my 15 round mags or pay to get them blocked.  I hate this state.

I’m sure all residents are good little law abiding citizens like you and will comply with those magazine laws.  How are the authorities going to even know who is complying and who is not?  I’m guessing they are not going door to door checking everything everyone owns...I bet it makes someone feel good, though.  Gotta pander to the gun control crowd’s feelings now and then when not actually doing anything to make a difference.   

That is why I am a big proponent of H-Bombs for all.  If criminals can get their hands on them, we might as well make them legal then.  Same with bank robberies.  Criminals do them so let's just make it legal for all.  Give me your address and I'm going to steal your TV and valuables since that is currently illegal, but in your world there is no need for laws if people just break them.

No, I understand the need for laws, just not ones that absolutely cannot be enforced.
Also not a fan of laws that essentially turn someone into a criminal for possession of something they purchased legally.  Thanks again captain exaggeration.

Here's a quick pro tip, when someone commits a crime with a banned weapon or accessory they will probably have added charges and jail time. Does that make you feel better?

I have zero problem with that.  I do have a problem that these new laws have effectively made hundreds of thousands of gun owners criminals after they were purchased legally. 

Exactly!  I know we were joking about I earlier, but what about calibers that use the same mags (.458 socom and .223)?  If it were labeled a .458 SOCOM mag, would it be legal since it can only hold 10 rounds of that caliber?  There are so many loopholes...but if it makes people feel good, then I guess it is a good law.

I would think that it would be legal.  I have an ithaca .22 lr that my grandmother gave my grandfather before entering the service during ww2 (made around 1942)...it is a tubular magazine that holds 15 rounds.  I'm guessing I have to turn that in (which is complete bs)?