America's Gun Violence

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  • cblock4lifecblock4life Posts: 1,715
    Sad and tragic.  This whole country is sad and tragic. 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,969
    I think you meant, “yay, ‘Murica, freedumb?” Question is, who is the lawful “responsible” gun owner and what should their/there/they’re punishment be, or have they suffered enough?
    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;

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  • cblock4lifecblock4life Posts: 1,715
    edited August 2021
    I think you meant, “yay, ‘Murica, freedumb?” Question is, who is the lawful “responsible” gun owner and what should their/there/they’re punishment be, or have they suffered enough?
    Not going to be popular but suffered enough
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  • JB16057JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    I think you meant, “yay, ‘Murica, freedumb?” Question is, who is the lawful “responsible” gun owner and what should their/there/they’re punishment be, or have they suffered enough?
    Not going to be popular but suffered enough
    +1

  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
    I think you meant, “yay, ‘Murica, freedumb?” Question is, who is the lawful “responsible” gun owner and what should their/there/they’re punishment be, or have they suffered enough?
    Not going to be popular but suffered enough
    I don’t think it’s reasonable to conclude that until we know who owns the gun. If it was the mom, then clearly yes. If it was someone else, then maybe not. 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,969
    So, when do “responsible” gun owners get held accountable?
    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;

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  • cblock4lifecblock4life Posts: 1,715
    So, when do “responsible” gun owners get held accountable?
    Yes my husband just said my choice was wrong.  He said until there’s repercussions regarding safety issues nothing will change.  
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,969
    edited August 2021
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    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,969
    But I thought they were going to pay for the Wall? Maybe we should just give everyone crossing the Southern border a firearm before sending them back? That'll solve our immigration crisis. 'Murica, exporting its greatness. "Responsible" gun owners, who knew? For all the freedumb lovers out there, does the 2A extend to Mexico?

    Mexico to sue U.S.-based gunmakers over flow of arms across border

    MEXICO CITY — The Mexican government said Wednesday it plans to file legal action against several major U.S.-based gun manufacturers, alleging that lax controls contribute to the illegal flow of weapons over the border, according to documents obtained by The Washington Post.

    The unusual suit is expected to be filed in U.S. federal court in Boston, since some of the manufacturers are headquartered in Massachusetts, according to the documents. The suit — which seeks unspecified financial compensation from the companies — does not target the U.S. government.

    Mexican authorities believe U.S.-made weapons have fueled the explosive violence that has transformed parts of the country over the past decade. Around 2.5 million illicit American guns have poured across the border in that time period, according to a Mexican government study released last year. Legal gun sales in Mexico are tightly restricted.

    The lawsuit maintains that the U.S. arms manufacturers “are conscious of the fact that their products are trafficked and used in illicit activities against the civilian population and authorities of Mexico,” according to a document from the Foreign Ministry.

    “Nonetheless, they continue to prioritize their economic benefit, and use marketing strategies to promote weapons that are ever more lethal, without mechanisms of security or traceability,” the statement continued.

    The suit names companies including Smith & Wesson Brands, Inc.; Barrett Firearms Manufacturing, Inc; Beretta U.S.A. Corp; Glock, Inc; and Colt’s Manufacturing Co. Llc.

    The lawsuit also seeks the adoption of tighter controls in sales and security features on weapons. It also wants the companies to undertake studies and media campaigns to prevent arms trafficking.

    Continues.......................

    Mexico plans lawsuit against U.S-based gunmakers over flow of weapons across border - The Washington Post

    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,969
    Amazingly "responsible."
    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;

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  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 8,421
    https://nypost.com/2021/08/05/video-shows-woman-shooter-walk-up-to-victim-and-open-fire/

    Women , men, children. White, black , green. Ny, Texas , California. 

    Everyone , everywhere loves guns. Another broad daylight execution. So sad. 
  • dankinddankind Posts: 20,839
    nicknyr15 said:
    https://nypost.com/2021/08/05/video-shows-woman-shooter-walk-up-to-victim-and-open-fire/

    Women , men, children. White, black , green. Ny, Texas , California. 

    Everyone , everywhere loves guns. Another broad daylight execution. So sad. 
    9:40 p.m.

    But, yeah, this happens everywhere. Seems like maybe every day, every other day, around here.

    Nothing to be done.

    If only all those bystanders were armed as well, we'd have more bodies, you know? 
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  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 8,421
    dankind said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    https://nypost.com/2021/08/05/video-shows-woman-shooter-walk-up-to-victim-and-open-fire/

    Women , men, children. White, black , green. Ny, Texas , California. 

    Everyone , everywhere loves guns. Another broad daylight execution. So sad. 
    9:40 p.m.

    But, yeah, this happens everywhere. Seems like maybe every day, every other day, around here.

    Nothing to be done.

    If only all those bystanders were armed as well, we'd have more bodies, you know? 
    Sorry. That video looked like daytime. Either way it’s disgusting. 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,969
    nicknyr15 said:
    https://nypost.com/2021/08/05/video-shows-woman-shooter-walk-up-to-victim-and-open-fire/

    Women , men, children. White, black , green. Ny, Texas , California. 

    Everyone , everywhere loves guns. Another broad daylight execution. So sad. 
    Nothing could be further from the truth.
    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;

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  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 8,421
    nicknyr15 said:
    https://nypost.com/2021/08/05/video-shows-woman-shooter-walk-up-to-victim-and-open-fire/

    Women , men, children. White, black , green. Ny, Texas , California. 

    Everyone , everywhere loves guns. Another broad daylight execution. So sad. 
    Nothing could be further from the truth.
    You know what I meant. People from everywhere, all genders, all ages, all colors. Is that better? Not literally every single human. 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,969
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    https://nypost.com/2021/08/05/video-shows-woman-shooter-walk-up-to-victim-and-open-fire/

    Women , men, children. White, black , green. Ny, Texas , California. 

    Everyone , everywhere loves guns. Another broad daylight execution. So sad. 
    Nothing could be further from the truth.
    You know what I meant. People from everywhere, all genders, all ages, all colors. Is that better? Not literally every single human. 
    No, I didn't. Are you saying that attraction to fire arms and the willingness to use them and be "responsible" are universal? If yes, why duh. Don't know why that would even need to be stated.

    NY is probably experiencing an uptick due to the surge in gun sales everywhere but particularly from states that have greatly loosened the restrictions on purchasing. Guess you might appreciate the Biden Administration directing the ATF to focus on straw purchases and the dealers who sell to those "responsible" and what happens after?
    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;

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  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 8,421
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    https://nypost.com/2021/08/05/video-shows-woman-shooter-walk-up-to-victim-and-open-fire/

    Women , men, children. White, black , green. Ny, Texas , California. 

    Everyone , everywhere loves guns. Another broad daylight execution. So sad. 
    Nothing could be further from the truth.
    You know what I meant. People from everywhere, all genders, all ages, all colors. Is that better? Not literally every single human. 
    No, I didn't. Are you saying that attraction to fire arms and the willingness to use them and be "responsible" are universal? If yes, why duh. Don't know why that would even need to be stated.

    NY is probably experiencing an uptick due to the surge in gun sales everywhere but particularly from states that have greatly loosened the restrictions on purchasing. Guess you might appreciate the Biden Administration directing the ATF to focus on straw purchases and the dealers who sell to those "responsible" and what happens after?
    I have a very different opinion on why criminals are running the city at the moment. 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,969
    Sounds like a “responsible” gun owner we all know and love, right?

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    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;

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  • cblock4lifecblock4life Posts: 1,715
    Before I ask know that I’m not anti amendment #2…..I own a gun and if my pit bull doesn’t stop someone from breaking in then the gun will.  FYI police officer at my house once said the dog is the best defense 

    Is it true that men who collect guns are compensating for small genitalia?  Heard this all my life 
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,514
    Before I ask know that I’m not anti amendment #2…..I own a gun and if my pit bull doesn’t stop someone from breaking in then the gun will.  FYI police officer at my house once said the dog is the best defense 

    Is it true that men who collect guns are compensating for small genitalia?  Heard this all my life 

    I seriously doubt such an admission would be made by such people...
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  • HobbesHobbes Posts: 6,421
    Before I ask know that I’m not anti amendment #2…..I own a gun and if my pit bull doesn’t stop someone from breaking in then the gun will.  FYI police officer at my house once said the dog is the best defense 

    Is it true that men who collect guns are compensating for small genitalia?  Heard this all my life 
    Short answer... yes.
  • OnWis97OnWis97 Posts: 5,103
    Hobbes said:
    Before I ask know that I’m not anti amendment #2…..I own a gun and if my pit bull doesn’t stop someone from breaking in then the gun will.  FYI police officer at my house once said the dog is the best defense 

    Is it true that men who collect guns are compensating for small genitalia?  Heard this all my life 
    Short answer... yes.
    It's probably one of those things rooted in some truth but not even close to absolute. See also, big trucks as compensation.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,969
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    https://nypost.com/2021/08/05/video-shows-woman-shooter-walk-up-to-victim-and-open-fire/

    Women , men, children. White, black , green. Ny, Texas , California. 

    Everyone , everywhere loves guns. Another broad daylight execution. So sad. 
    Nothing could be further from the truth.
    You know what I meant. People from everywhere, all genders, all ages, all colors. Is that better? Not literally every single human. 
    No, I didn't. Are you saying that attraction to fire arms and the willingness to use them and be "responsible" are universal? If yes, why duh. Don't know why that would even need to be stated.

    NY is probably experiencing an uptick due to the surge in gun sales everywhere but particularly from states that have greatly loosened the restrictions on purchasing. Guess you might appreciate the Biden Administration directing the ATF to focus on straw purchases and the dealers who sell to those "responsible" and what happens after?
    I have a very different opinion on why criminals are running the city at the moment. 
    "Criminals running the city."
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  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 8,421
    edited August 2021
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    https://nypost.com/2021/08/05/video-shows-woman-shooter-walk-up-to-victim-and-open-fire/

    Women , men, children. White, black , green. Ny, Texas , California. 

    Everyone , everywhere loves guns. Another broad daylight execution. So sad. 
    Nothing could be further from the truth.
    You know what I meant. People from everywhere, all genders, all ages, all colors. Is that better? Not literally every single human. 
    No, I didn't. Are you saying that attraction to fire arms and the willingness to use them and be "responsible" are universal? If yes, why duh. Don't know why that would even need to be stated.

    NY is probably experiencing an uptick due to the surge in gun sales everywhere but particularly from states that have greatly loosened the restrictions on purchasing. Guess you might appreciate the Biden Administration directing the ATF to focus on straw purchases and the dealers who sell to those "responsible" and what happens after?
    I have a very different opinion on why criminals are running the city at the moment. 
    "Criminals running the city."
    Yes. And? Why does this bother you? Are you here? This has nothing to do with politics. Fuck the left and fuck the right. How’s that? Can’t make any statement without you taking it as a personal
    political attack. 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,969
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    https://nypost.com/2021/08/05/video-shows-woman-shooter-walk-up-to-victim-and-open-fire/

    Women , men, children. White, black , green. Ny, Texas , California. 

    Everyone , everywhere loves guns. Another broad daylight execution. So sad. 
    Nothing could be further from the truth.
    You know what I meant. People from everywhere, all genders, all ages, all colors. Is that better? Not literally every single human. 
    No, I didn't. Are you saying that attraction to fire arms and the willingness to use them and be "responsible" are universal? If yes, why duh. Don't know why that would even need to be stated.

    NY is probably experiencing an uptick due to the surge in gun sales everywhere but particularly from states that have greatly loosened the restrictions on purchasing. Guess you might appreciate the Biden Administration directing the ATF to focus on straw purchases and the dealers who sell to those "responsible" and what happens after?
    I have a very different opinion on why criminals are running the city at the moment. 
    "Criminals running the city."
    Yes. And?
    Its a laughable characterization.
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  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 8,421
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    https://nypost.com/2021/08/05/video-shows-woman-shooter-walk-up-to-victim-and-open-fire/

    Women , men, children. White, black , green. Ny, Texas , California. 

    Everyone , everywhere loves guns. Another broad daylight execution. So sad. 
    Nothing could be further from the truth.
    You know what I meant. People from everywhere, all genders, all ages, all colors. Is that better? Not literally every single human. 
    No, I didn't. Are you saying that attraction to fire arms and the willingness to use them and be "responsible" are universal? If yes, why duh. Don't know why that would even need to be stated.

    NY is probably experiencing an uptick due to the surge in gun sales everywhere but particularly from states that have greatly loosened the restrictions on purchasing. Guess you might appreciate the Biden Administration directing the ATF to focus on straw purchases and the dealers who sell to those "responsible" and what happens after?
    I have a very different opinion on why criminals are running the city at the moment. 
    "Criminals running the city."
    Yes. And?
    Its a laughable characterization.
    Laughable from where you’re sitting. 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,969
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    https://nypost.com/2021/08/05/video-shows-woman-shooter-walk-up-to-victim-and-open-fire/

    Women , men, children. White, black , green. Ny, Texas , California. 

    Everyone , everywhere loves guns. Another broad daylight execution. So sad. 
    Nothing could be further from the truth.
    You know what I meant. People from everywhere, all genders, all ages, all colors. Is that better? Not literally every single human. 
    No, I didn't. Are you saying that attraction to fire arms and the willingness to use them and be "responsible" are universal? If yes, why duh. Don't know why that would even need to be stated.

    NY is probably experiencing an uptick due to the surge in gun sales everywhere but particularly from states that have greatly loosened the restrictions on purchasing. Guess you might appreciate the Biden Administration directing the ATF to focus on straw purchases and the dealers who sell to those "responsible" and what happens after?
    I have a very different opinion on why criminals are running the city at the moment. 
    "Criminals running the city."
    Yes. And?
    Its a laughable characterization.
    Laughable from where you’re sitting. 
    Stop reading the Post. Deal in real stats and not fear mongering. Things in NYC have been way, way, way worse than today and the city wasn't characterized as "being run by criminals." And keep believing that the surge in gun buying and easier availability of firearms hasn't contributed. 
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  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 8,421
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    https://nypost.com/2021/08/05/video-shows-woman-shooter-walk-up-to-victim-and-open-fire/

    Women , men, children. White, black , green. Ny, Texas , California. 

    Everyone , everywhere loves guns. Another broad daylight execution. So sad. 
    Nothing could be further from the truth.
    You know what I meant. People from everywhere, all genders, all ages, all colors. Is that better? Not literally every single human. 
    No, I didn't. Are you saying that attraction to fire arms and the willingness to use them and be "responsible" are universal? If yes, why duh. Don't know why that would even need to be stated.

    NY is probably experiencing an uptick due to the surge in gun sales everywhere but particularly from states that have greatly loosened the restrictions on purchasing. Guess you might appreciate the Biden Administration directing the ATF to focus on straw purchases and the dealers who sell to those "responsible" and what happens after?
    I have a very different opinion on why criminals are running the city at the moment. 
    "Criminals running the city."
    Yes. And?
    Its a laughable characterization.
    Laughable from where you’re sitting. 
    Stop reading the Post. Deal in real stats and not fear mongering. Things in NYC have been way, way, way worse than today and the city wasn't characterized as "being run by criminals." And keep believing that the surge in gun buying and easier availability of firearms hasn't contributed. 
    Sure thing. Thanks. 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,969
    I guess the whole country, east of the Mississippi and eastern Tejas is "being run by criminals?" Time to find a new country.

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