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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,793
    I'm going to put this here because this guy will hopefully never legally be able to obtain a gun again. Making gun threats towards employees at a college is about the stupidest thing you can do these days.

    https://www.twincities.com/2019/08/29/st-paul-college-student-charged-facebook-threat/
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,662
    tbergs said:
    I'm going to put this here because this guy will hopefully never legally be able to obtain a gun again. Making gun threats towards employees at a college is about the stupidest thing you can do these days.

    https://www.twincities.com/2019/08/29/st-paul-college-student-charged-facebook-threat/
    He looks like a normal doe eyed freshman to me. I remember I had a folding knife and brass knuckles my first day of college.  I was adorable in my innocence. 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,969
    tbergs said:
    I'm going to put this here because this guy will hopefully never legally be able to obtain a gun again. Making gun threats towards employees at a college is about the stupidest thing you can do these days.

    https://www.twincities.com/2019/08/29/st-paul-college-student-charged-facebook-threat/
    Everyone should be allowed to buy and own a gun, why not? What could possibly go wrong? Just another pissed off “responsible” gun owner.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,969
    Yea, but let’s not do anything about the number of guns or access to them. They cray yo!

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,969
    Just another “responsible” gun owner being pissed off at, whatever.

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  • RenfieldRenfield Posts: 1,054

    When does a 17 year old become a “responsible” gun owner? Never.

    At Least 10 Shot at Alabama High School Football Game. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/31/us/mobile-alabama-football-shooting.html

  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,480
    Renfield said:

    When does a 17 year old become a “responsible” gun owner? Never.

    At Least 10 Shot at Alabama High School Football Game. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/31/us/mobile-alabama-football-shooting.html

    There s plenty of 17 year old who are responsible with firearms however it is illegal for a 17 year old to be a gun owner.  
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,750
    Here we go again....


  • RenfieldRenfield Posts: 1,054
    mcgruff10 said:
    Renfield said:

    When does a 17 year old become a “responsible” gun owner? Never.

    At Least 10 Shot at Alabama High School Football Game. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/31/us/mobile-alabama-football-shooting.html

    There s plenty of 17 year old who are responsible with firearms however it is illegal for a 17 year old to be a gun owner.  
    Sarcasm my friend.
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,435
    Bentleyspop said:
    Here we go again....


    More hopes and prayers. More talk. More benefit shows and concerts. More politicians heading there to talk and get votes. But nothing getting done to help fix it.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,477
    It’s become like a weekend event as long as you stay at home you should be ok ..
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,435
    josevolution said:
    It’s become like a weekend event as long as you stay at home you should be ok ..
    Lots of people killed in their own homes with guns as well. 

    This is beyond ridiculous. The lack of leadership on this is crazy.  The lack of foresight on issues is what is destroying the US. And this is the biggest issue where we are way beyond foresight now. We have data (deaths...including kids). How many more “red flags” do we need to take action?
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,750
    Nothing to see here. Just another white Male utilizing his god given right to make use of the 2nd amendment. 


  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,480
    Why do we point out when a shooter is white but disregard when the shooter is black?  What are we trying to prove?  Two stories in the past few and  No mention that the shooter in Alabama was black, only the white shooter.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • dudemandudeman Posts: 3,057
    mcgruff10 said:
    Why do we point out when a shooter is white but disregard when the shooter is black?  What are we trying to prove?  Two stories in the past few and  No mention that the shooter in Alabama was black, only the white shooter.  
    Preserving the narrative is important you know. 
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,514
    mcgruff10 said:
    Why do we point out when a shooter is white but disregard when the shooter is black?  What are we trying to prove?  Two stories in the past few and  No mention that the shooter in Alabama was black, only the white shooter.  
    well the alabama shooter IS a minor....
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,888
    mcgruff10 said:
    Why do we point out when a shooter is white but disregard when the shooter is black?  What are we trying to prove?  Two stories in the past few and  No mention that the shooter in Alabama was black, only the white shooter.  
    Well I think we have a pretty big problem with mass shootings in this country. Almost all of the shooters are white guys. 
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  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,930
    edited September 2019
    Don't worry gun owners.  The guilt must be terrible, but I'm sure you'll need to arm yourself in a militia to stop the government's takeover of the country at some point in time.  For now, rest easy as there is a reason all these people need to die in mass shootings.   
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 41,982
    Beto O'Rourke refers to the shootings and gun situation as "fucked up".  Someone saying what it is.  Exactly.

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,969
    edited September 2019
    Well, you can relax because at least you know there might be a funeral home willing to provide your funeral gratis. Nothing can be done, particularly in Tejas where 4 of the last 10 most deadly mass shootings took place, except allow for more “responsible” gun owners.
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,480
    More and more idiots are using these rifles like fucking morons. I am not for group punishment but it could be time to ban them.  
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  • g under pg under p Posts: 18,190
    Seems like we are averaging two of these mass EVERY two weeks. If that keeps up and nothing significant is done then we are doomed.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,662
    Was this Odessa event with an assault rifle?
  • bbiggsbbiggs Posts: 6,950
    mrussel1 said:
    Was this Odessa event with an assault rifle?
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    mrussel1 said:
    Was this Odessa event with an assault rifle?
    Haven't you heard?
    There's no such thing as an assault rifle because assault is a verb.

    That's the level of intelligence we are up against.  We are doomed.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,662
    rgambs said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Was this Odessa event with an assault rifle?
    Haven't you heard?
    There's no such thing as an assault rifle because assault is a verb.

    That's the level of intelligence we are up against.  We are doomed.
    Um.. really? Someone actually made thatb argument?
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,969
    Just pray people, just pray it all away.

    https://apple.news/AaS2HbNg_QVm00LoPlY1sQQ

    I am so sick and fucking tired of these Jesus freaks and their false beliefs. 
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  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,930
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Just pray people, just pray it all away.

    https://apple.news/AaS2HbNg_QVm00LoPlY1sQQ

    I am so sick and fucking tired of these Jesus freaks and their false beliefs. 
    He says owning a gun is a God given right.  Unbelievable.  Where in the Bible does it talk about guns?
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,969
    bootlegger10 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Just pray people, just pray it all away.

    https://apple.news/AaS2HbNg_QVm00LoPlY1sQQ

    I am so sick and fucking tired of these Jesus freaks and their false beliefs. 
    He says owning a gun is a God given right.  Unbelievable.  Where in the Bible does it talk about guns?
    In ‘Murica you come out of the womb with a gun in your hand and if not, you’re given one at birth, like a social security number.
     
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