America's Gun Violence

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  • When was the last time a nipple killed someone? We constantly glorify violence and show fire arms on tv, along with their destructive nature, no qualms, but god forbid theres a wardrobe malfunction like at the super bowl or any nipple exposed is a travesty, like breast feeding in public. Guns? Let’s deny and promote.
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  • tbergs
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    Not a lot of information on what happened yet, but 4 officers sustained injuries and 1 dead after a shooting near Denver.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/31/us/colorado-shots-fired/index.html
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Did she get it for Christmas? Maybe her parents on Black Friday? Happy new year.

    Tennessee girl, 12, charged in deadly shooting of her 16-year-old friend - Fox News https://apple.news/AlNT3xev4RdubFBM-5Y5k5A
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,834
    Ugh. Unfortunately I expect even more in 2018. 

    This is the single issue that baffles me the most.
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  • Ugh. Unfortunately I expect even more in 2018. 

    This is the single issue that baffles me the most.
    It wont take that long. Maybe another Christmas present? The new year will be the same as the previous year, unfortunately.

    4 Dead as 16-Year-Old Boy Opens Fire on New Year’s Eve, Prosecutors Say - TIME https://apple.news/AiTXRx8FSTPS09AWmOxeEvA
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    I'm seeing (haven't vetted) reports that the cop shooter was an alt-righter who used some catch phrases we see around here a good bit.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    rgambs said:
    I'm seeing (haven't vetted) reports that the cop shooter was an alt-righter who used some catch phrases we see around here a good bit.
    Triggered?
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    rgambs said:
    I'm seeing (haven't vetted) reports that the cop shooter was an alt-righter who used some catch phrases we see around here a good bit.
    Triggered?
    Beta-male, cuck, virtue signal, etc.

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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    rgambs said:
    rgambs said:
    I'm seeing (haven't vetted) reports that the cop shooter was an alt-righter who used some catch phrases we see around here a good bit.
    Triggered?
    Beta-male, cuck, virtue signal, etc.

    Jenna Jameson called me a cuck on twitter. at the time I had no idea what it meant. I looked it up. I'm guessing she also doesn't know what the fucking thing means. 
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  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    rgambs said:
    rgambs said:
    I'm seeing (haven't vetted) reports that the cop shooter was an alt-righter who used some catch phrases we see around here a good bit.
    Triggered?
    Beta-male, cuck, virtue signal, etc.

    Jenna Jameson called me a cuck on twitter. at the time I had no idea what it meant. I looked it up. I'm guessing she also doesn't know what the fucking thing means. 
    I'm betting it was a typo!
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    rgambs said:
    rgambs said:
    I'm seeing (haven't vetted) reports that the cop shooter was an alt-righter who used some catch phrases we see around here a good bit.
    Triggered?
    Beta-male, cuck, virtue signal, etc.

    Jenna Jameson called me a cuck on twitter. at the time I had no idea what it meant. I looked it up. I'm guessing she also doesn't know what the fucking thing means. 
    I'm betting it was a typo!
    no, it wasn't. she uses that word repeatedly. along with all of the other trump supporter buzzwords. 
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  • CM189191
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    rgambs said:
    rgambs said:
    I'm seeing (haven't vetted) reports that the cop shooter was an alt-righter who used some catch phrases we see around here a good bit.
    Triggered?
    Beta-male, cuck, virtue signal, etc.

    Jenna Jameson called me a cuck on twitter. at the time I had no idea what it meant. I looked it up. I'm guessing she also doesn't know what the fucking thing means. 
    I'm betting it was a typo!
    no, it wasn't. she uses that word repeatedly. along with all of the other trump supporter buzzwords. 

    It is my understanding that the term 'cuck' doesn't follow the traditional literal definition for alt-righters.

    It's dog-whistle for letting immigrants and minorities take over America.  To them it's your nation/heritage/race that is being compromised by letting outsiders in.
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,829
    I and many gun supporters have said several times we are for reasonable gun control. The idea of any gun control not being "reasonable" was laughed at by many.
    I have a perfect example of what I mean by that.
    While visiting my home state of California for the holidays, I was told at a sporting store that this particular gun (that my dad purchased, who is law enforcement) is banned in California except for law enforcement. There are civilian versions available, but this one is banned.
    The one feature that made this version banned was a small slit in the slide that allowed a person to see if there was a live round in the chamber or not. That seems like a very good safety feature, but it is banned. Makes no sense to me, or anyone else I spoke with why that would be banned. Except if you place it in the category that anti-gun politicians have no clue what they are talking about when they write gun legislature, or (the more common perception) that they believe any ban on any gun is always good, even if it is banning a safety feature.
    Unfortunately I don't know the same of that feature that is banned, so I have been unable to find any information on it online. But I will take the word of the guy behind the counter who does this for a living.
  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    I've only seen a couple people, at most, say they are for any gun control. Let alone reasonable gun control. Many here equate gun control with the government beating down your door to take your guns.
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,589
    This issue is the biggest waste of time people just need to move on this is an issue we will have to deal with again & again , massacres are just part of our culture it’s in our DNA ..
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  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    This issue is the biggest waste of time people just need to move on this is an issue we will have to deal with again & again , massacres are just part of our culture it’s in our DNA ..
    That's a sad commentary. Because 20 years ago (columbine) massacres were NOT PART of our DNA. I hate that we are all now desensitized to it and actually almost expect them once every couple of months.  It's sickening.
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  • mace1229
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    I've only seen a couple people, at most, say they are for any gun control. Let alone reasonable gun control. Many here equate gun control with the government beating down your door to take your guns.
    I have a completely different take on it. I haven't tallied up the responses, but I can only remember 1 person saying they want zero gun control and to have the right to own whatever gun they want. I can remember many conversations where gun owners said they are not only okay with reasonable gun control, but actually want it. Reasonable being things like limited magazine capacities and background checks on purchases, 
    I have seen repeated many, many times people accusing gun owners of being afraid that 'Bama is going to take their guns away, but I don't think that fear has been expressed by more than 1 or 2 on here (I think the same one who wants zero gun control). Most don't fear that or think it is ever going to happen, but it is a constant accusation I've seen thrown around. It is brought up all the time with remarks like "don;t worry, no one is going to take your precious guns away," but I don't see anyone stating they actually fear that will happen.

    Does anyone here really think your guns are going to be taken away?

    Is any gun owner here not for background checks?
  • I agree that it is part of the American gig.

    I can accept it as such given that's the way the country wants it (I guess?). What I can't accept are the lame arguments tossed out there to somehow justify the reality. These arguments are nothing more than people trying to convince themselves of something they know isn't right.

    Don't talk about weak little things the need for protection and the constitution. Just spit it out: "Yah. I know school kids get massacred every now and then. I don't give a f**k. I wanna shoot shit and these guns are cool to shoot shit with. So piss off."

    At least, upon hearing that, we can all look at each other truthfully without one side of the debate thinking they might actually have a legitimate argument when they...and the side they oppose... really know they do not.  

    This is not a debate. At all. It's an epidemic. I mean... in the face of overwhelming evidence for the success of real gun laws (experienced by other developed countries) and unparalleled and staggering gun death statistics... arguing against meaningful legislation is tantamount to arguing the Cleveland Browns are as successful as the New England Patriots. You can make a feeble argument... but it sounds stupid as hell trying to make it. 
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    mace1229 said:
    I've only seen a couple people, at most, say they are for any gun control. Let alone reasonable gun control. Many here equate gun control with the government beating down your door to take your guns.
    I have a completely different take on it. I haven't tallied up the responses, but I can only remember 1 person saying they want zero gun control and to have the right to own whatever gun they want. I can remember many conversations where gun owners said they are not only okay with reasonable gun control, but actually want it. Reasonable being things like limited magazine capacities and background checks on purchases, 
    I have seen repeated many, many times people accusing gun owners of being afraid that 'Bama is going to take their guns away, but I don't think that fear has been expressed by more than 1 or 2 on here (I think the same one who wants zero gun control). Most don't fear that or think it is ever going to happen, but it is a constant accusation I've seen thrown around. It is brought up all the time with remarks like "don;t worry, no one is going to take your precious guns away," but I don't see anyone stating they actually fear that will happen.

    Does anyone here really think your guns are going to be taken away?

    Is any gun owner here not for background checks?
    i agree with you. I believe many many people here have stated they have no issue with what you have stated. However, I would venture to guess that members of this forum are probably more left leaning gun owners than the hardcore 2nd Ammendment-ers that the NRA placates to and drives fear into. 

    this is the most serious case of proof of how money drives politics: an overwhelming majority of americans are pro-gun control legislation. the gun lobby does not, so the politicians favour the lobby. it is mind boggling that americans are ok with their politicians acting in direct contravention to the interests of their voters. 
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  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    Trigger happy cop shoots man at his own home who was simply a victim of a prank call.

    https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/01/mother-of-swatting-victim-wants-cop-criminally-charged-for-shooting/

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