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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,237
    Kat said:
    Rosanne Cash says that the “N.R.A. funds domestic terrorism.”
    I hope more activists join her.
    So I fund domestic terrorism since I am a NRA member?  That s a pretty assinine statement by rosanne cash. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 13,082
    mcgruff10 said:
    Kat said:
    Rosanne Cash says that the “N.R.A. funds domestic terrorism.”
    I hope more activists join her.
    So I fund domestic terrorism since I am a NRA member?  That s a pretty assinine statement by rosanne cash. 
    yes
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 32,220
    mcgruff10 said:
    Kat said:
    Rosanne Cash says that the “N.R.A. funds domestic terrorism.”
    I hope more activists join her.
    So I fund domestic terrorism since I am a NRA member?  That s a pretty assinine statement by rosanne cash. 
    mcgruff10 said:
    Kat said:
    Rosanne Cash says that the “N.R.A. funds domestic terrorism.”
    I hope more activists join her.
    So I fund domestic terrorism since I am a NRA member?  That s a pretty assinine statement by rosanne cash. 
    I knew you owend weapons but didn't realize your a member damn so you pay to be a member that means you contribute to the organization no ? not that Rosanne is correct but still ....
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,237
    josevolution said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Kat said:
    Rosanne Cash says that the “N.R.A. funds domestic terrorism.”
    I hope more activists join her.
    So I fund domestic terrorism since I am a NRA member?  That s a pretty assinine statement by rosanne cash. 
    mcgruff10 said:
    Kat said:
    Rosanne Cash says that the “N.R.A. funds domestic terrorism.”
    I hope more activists join her.
    So I fund domestic terrorism since I am a NRA member?  That s a pretty assinine statement by rosanne cash. 
    I knew you owend weapons but didn't realize your a member damn so you pay to be a member that means you contribute to the organization no ? not that Rosanne is correct but still ....
    Yeah the range I belongs to requires me to be a member. But to suggest that NRA members support domestic terrorism is really dumb. Thatcsclijecsaying I am pro oil spills since I invest in Exxon. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 10,072
    edited October 2017
    mcgruff10 said:
    josevolution said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Kat said:
    Rosanne Cash says that the “N.R.A. funds domestic terrorism.”
    I hope more activists join her.
    So I fund domestic terrorism since I am a NRA member?  That s a pretty assinine statement by rosanne cash. 
    mcgruff10 said:
    Kat said:
    Rosanne Cash says that the “N.R.A. funds domestic terrorism.”
    I hope more activists join her.
    So I fund domestic terrorism since I am a NRA member?  That s a pretty assinine statement by rosanne cash. 
    I knew you owend weapons but didn't realize your a member damn so you pay to be a member that means you contribute to the organization no ? not that Rosanne is correct but still ....
    Yeah the range I belongs to requires me to be a member. But to suggest that NRA members support domestic terrorism is really dumb. Thatcsclijecsaying I am pro oil spills since I invest in Exxon. 
    Even to say they fund domestic terrorism is ridiculous.
    I heard on the news this morning that this guy in vegas was a millionaire, he didnt need any funds.
    To claim the NRA "funds" these people would imply they physically supply them with weapons.
    They dont. You could argue they make it easier for domestic terrorism, I would listen to that argument. But the minute you say they are funded by the NRA I put you in the crazy loon radical box and ignore everything else you say.
    Granted I haven't read that article so I don't know what context it was in, but if she suggests the NRA does anything more than make it difficult pass laws then she goes in that box. If that is what she meant then there's a hundred better ways to phrase that more clearly than to say they "fund" terrorism, and at best is a very poor choice of words.
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 32,220
    mcgruff10 said:
    josevolution said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Kat said:
    Rosanne Cash says that the “N.R.A. funds domestic terrorism.”
    I hope more activists join her.
    So I fund domestic terrorism since I am a NRA member?  That s a pretty assinine statement by rosanne cash. 
    mcgruff10 said:
    Kat said:
    Rosanne Cash says that the “N.R.A. funds domestic terrorism.”
    I hope more activists join her.
    So I fund domestic terrorism since I am a NRA member?  That s a pretty assinine statement by rosanne cash. 
    I knew you owend weapons but didn't realize your a member damn so you pay to be a member that means you contribute to the organization no ? not that Rosanne is correct but still ....
    Yeah the range I belongs to requires me to be a member. But to suggest that NRA members support domestic terrorism is really dumb. Thatcsclijecsaying I am pro oil spills since I invest in Exxon. 
    Whoa so all shooting ranges are sponsord by the NRA , they truly run this country & they own CONGRESS & SENATE ....
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,301
    mcgruff10 said:
    Kat said:
    Rosanne Cash says that the “N.R.A. funds domestic terrorism.”
    I hope more activists join her.
    So I fund domestic terrorism since I am a NRA member?  That s a pretty assinine statement by rosanne cash. 
    I'm not anti-hand gun but I have a hard time believing the NRA actually cares about any of these victims.  I know you do, but the NRA certainly doesn't.   In my opinion.  The guy bought 36 guns in the last 12 months.  The NRA fights for that right.  It is obscene.
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,237
    josevolution said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    josevolution said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Kat said:
    Rosanne Cash says that the “N.R.A. funds domestic terrorism.”
    I hope more activists join her.
    So I fund domestic terrorism since I am a NRA member?  That s a pretty assinine statement by rosanne cash. 
    mcgruff10 said:
    Kat said:
    Rosanne Cash says that the “N.R.A. funds domestic terrorism.”
    I hope more activists join her.
    So I fund domestic terrorism since I am a NRA member?  That s a pretty assinine statement by rosanne cash. 
    I knew you owend weapons but didn't realize your a member damn so you pay to be a member that means you contribute to the organization no ? not that Rosanne is correct but still ....
    Yeah the range I belongs to requires me to be a member. But to suggest that NRA members support domestic terrorism is really dumb. Thatcsclijecsaying I am pro oil spills since I invest in Exxon. 
    Whoa so all shooting ranges are sponsord by the NRA , they truly run this country & they own CONGRESS & SENATE ....
    Not all shooting ranges, just the particular private one I belong too. 
    There s plenty that don't require it. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    mace1229 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    josevolution said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Kat said:
    Rosanne Cash says that the “N.R.A. funds domestic terrorism.”
    I hope more activists join her.
    So I fund domestic terrorism since I am a NRA member?  That s a pretty assinine statement by rosanne cash. 
    mcgruff10 said:
    Kat said:
    Rosanne Cash says that the “N.R.A. funds domestic terrorism.”
    I hope more activists join her.
    So I fund domestic terrorism since I am a NRA member?  That s a pretty assinine statement by rosanne cash. 
    I knew you owend weapons but didn't realize your a member damn so you pay to be a member that means you contribute to the organization no ? not that Rosanne is correct but still ....
    Yeah the range I belongs to requires me to be a member. But to suggest that NRA members support domestic terrorism is really dumb. Thatcsclijecsaying I am pro oil spills since I invest in Exxon. 
    Even to say they fund domestic terrorism is ridiculous.
    I heard on the news this morning that this guy in vegas was a millionaire, he didnt need any funds.
    To claim the NRA "funds" these people would imply they physically supply them with weapons.
    They dont. You could argue they make it easier for domestic terrorism, I would listen to that argument. But the minute you say they are funded by the NRA I put you in the crazy loon radical box and ignore everything else you say.
    Granted I haven't read that article so I don't know what context it was in, but if that is what was implied she goes in that box.
    I agree, what a joke...You may not agree with the rights that the NRA aligns with, but to say they “fund domestic terrorism” is a stretch.  
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 10,072
    mcgruff10 said:
    josevolution said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    josevolution said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Kat said:
    Rosanne Cash says that the “N.R.A. funds domestic terrorism.”
    I hope more activists join her.
    So I fund domestic terrorism since I am a NRA member?  That s a pretty assinine statement by rosanne cash. 
    mcgruff10 said:
    Kat said:
    Rosanne Cash says that the “N.R.A. funds domestic terrorism.”
    I hope more activists join her.
    So I fund domestic terrorism since I am a NRA member?  That s a pretty assinine statement by rosanne cash. 
    I knew you owend weapons but didn't realize your a member damn so you pay to be a member that means you contribute to the organization no ? not that Rosanne is correct but still ....
    Yeah the range I belongs to requires me to be a member. But to suggest that NRA members support domestic terrorism is really dumb. Thatcsclijecsaying I am pro oil spills since I invest in Exxon. 
    Whoa so all shooting ranges are sponsord by the NRA , they truly run this country & they own CONGRESS & SENATE ....
    Not all shooting ranges, just the particular private one I belong too. 
    There s plenty that don't require it. 
    I've never even heard of a range that requires NRA membership. I would imagine that is pretty rare.
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    mace1229 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    josevolution said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    josevolution said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Kat said:
    Rosanne Cash says that the “N.R.A. funds domestic terrorism.”
    I hope more activists join her.
    So I fund domestic terrorism since I am a NRA member?  That s a pretty assinine statement by rosanne cash. 
    mcgruff10 said:
    Kat said:
    Rosanne Cash says that the “N.R.A. funds domestic terrorism.”
    I hope more activists join her.
    So I fund domestic terrorism since I am a NRA member?  That s a pretty assinine statement by rosanne cash. 
    I knew you owend weapons but didn't realize your a member damn so you pay to be a member that means you contribute to the organization no ? not that Rosanne is correct but still ....
    Yeah the range I belongs to requires me to be a member. But to suggest that NRA members support domestic terrorism is really dumb. Thatcsclijecsaying I am pro oil spills since I invest in Exxon. 
    Whoa so all shooting ranges are sponsord by the NRA , they truly run this country & they own CONGRESS & SENATE ....
    Not all shooting ranges, just the particular private one I belong too. 
    There s plenty that don't require it. 
    I've never even heard of a range that requires NRA membership. I would imagine that is pretty rare.
    Yeah, I don’t think i’ve run across any of those either. Maybe it is specifically owned by the NRA?
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,237
    mace1229 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    josevolution said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    josevolution said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Kat said:
    Rosanne Cash says that the “N.R.A. funds domestic terrorism.”
    I hope more activists join her.
    So I fund domestic terrorism since I am a NRA member?  That s a pretty assinine statement by rosanne cash. 
    mcgruff10 said:
    Kat said:
    Rosanne Cash says that the “N.R.A. funds domestic terrorism.”
    I hope more activists join her.
    So I fund domestic terrorism since I am a NRA member?  That s a pretty assinine statement by rosanne cash. 
    I knew you owend weapons but didn't realize your a member damn so you pay to be a member that means you contribute to the organization no ? not that Rosanne is correct but still ....
    Yeah the range I belongs to requires me to be a member. But to suggest that NRA members support domestic terrorism is really dumb. Thatcsclijecsaying I am pro oil spills since I invest in Exxon. 
    Whoa so all shooting ranges are sponsord by the NRA , they truly run this country & they own CONGRESS & SENATE ....
    Not all shooting ranges, just the particular private one I belong too. 
    There s plenty that don't require it. 
    I've never even heard of a range that requires NRA membership. I would imagine that is pretty rare.
    Like I said, private range, not a public one.  I'd still be a NRA member even if I didn't belong to this range.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,977
    edited October 2017
    Well it's a stretch because they don't fund it directly... do they even fund it at all? I would say that they purposefully work to support the ease with which people can carry out domestic terrorism. And yeah, they fund that, and lobby for it very successfully... in part by paying off politicians, which I would also consider corrupt TBH, but I know it's commonplace. I don't see how that could be argued against. I've got to admit I'm a little bit taken aback to know that anyone here is actually a member of the fucking NRA, given everything they do. They are a really twisted bunch, and they play dirty politics.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 32,220
    mcgruff10 said:
    josevolution said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    josevolution said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Kat said:
    Rosanne Cash says that the “N.R.A. funds domestic terrorism.”
    I hope more activists join her.
    So I fund domestic terrorism since I am a NRA member?  That s a pretty assinine statement by rosanne cash. 
    mcgruff10 said:
    Kat said:
    Rosanne Cash says that the “N.R.A. funds domestic terrorism.”
    I hope more activists join her.
    So I fund domestic terrorism since I am a NRA member?  That s a pretty assinine statement by rosanne cash. 
    I knew you owend weapons but didn't realize your a member damn so you pay to be a member that means you contribute to the organization no ? not that Rosanne is correct but still ....
    Yeah the range I belongs to requires me to be a member. But to suggest that NRA members support domestic terrorism is really dumb. Thatcsclijecsaying I am pro oil spills since I invest in Exxon. 
    Whoa so all shooting ranges are sponsord by the NRA , they truly run this country & they own CONGRESS & SENATE ....
    Not all shooting ranges, just the particular private one I belong too. 
    There s plenty that don't require it. 
    Oh ok but they do own Congress & Senate this def can't be disputed 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,237
    josevolution said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    josevolution said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    josevolution said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Kat said:
    Rosanne Cash says that the “N.R.A. funds domestic terrorism.”
    I hope more activists join her.
    So I fund domestic terrorism since I am a NRA member?  That s a pretty assinine statement by rosanne cash. 
    mcgruff10 said:
    Kat said:
    Rosanne Cash says that the “N.R.A. funds domestic terrorism.”
    I hope more activists join her.
    So I fund domestic terrorism since I am a NRA member?  That s a pretty assinine statement by rosanne cash. 
    I knew you owend weapons but didn't realize your a member damn so you pay to be a member that means you contribute to the organization no ? not that Rosanne is correct but still ....
    Yeah the range I belongs to requires me to be a member. But to suggest that NRA members support domestic terrorism is really dumb. Thatcsclijecsaying I am pro oil spills since I invest in Exxon. 
    Whoa so all shooting ranges are sponsord by the NRA , they truly run this country & they own CONGRESS & SENATE ....
    Not all shooting ranges, just the particular private one I belong too. 
    There s plenty that don't require it. 
    Oh ok but they do own Congress & Senate this def can't be disputed 

    No argument from me! lol.  They own congress just like any other powerful lobby.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 10,072
    PJ_Soul said:
    Well it's a stretch because they don't fund it directly... do they even fund it at all? I would say that they purposefully work to support the ease with which people can carry out domestic terrorism. And yeah, they fund that, and lobby for it very successfully... in part by paying off politicians, which I would also consider corrupt TBH, but I know it's commonplace. I don't see how that could be argued against. I've got to admit I'm a little bit taken aback to know that anyone here is actually a member of the fucking NRA, given everything they do. They are a really twisted bunch, and they play dirty politics.
    The only issue I have is "purposefully work to support the ease with which people can carry out domestic terrorism." That to me that sounds like you're implying their goal is to intentionally make it easier for terrorism. I don't think anyone has any reason to believe they want to make it easier for terrorists. I wouldn't argue against that the rights they fight for do make it easier for domestic terrorists like this last shooter, but in no way do I think that is their goal. And to purposefully chose the word "fund" would definitely imply they are in support of such acts. 
    I'm not a member, but my dad is. He joined in the 60s or 70s when it was a difference beast. It was a one time lifetime membership I think, and did it to get discounts into gun shows and such, not as much the politics of it. 
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,689
    mcgruff10 said:
    josevolution said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Kat said:
    Rosanne Cash says that the “N.R.A. funds domestic terrorism.”
    I hope more activists join her.
    So I fund domestic terrorism since I am a NRA member?  That s a pretty assinine statement by rosanne cash. 
    mcgruff10 said:
    Kat said:
    Rosanne Cash says that the “N.R.A. funds domestic terrorism.”
    I hope more activists join her.
    So I fund domestic terrorism since I am a NRA member?  That s a pretty assinine statement by rosanne cash. 
    I knew you owend weapons but didn't realize your a member damn so you pay to be a member that means you contribute to the organization no ? not that Rosanne is correct but still ....
    Yeah the range I belongs to requires me to be a member. But to suggest that NRA members support domestic terrorism is really dumb. Thatcsclijecsaying I am pro oil spills since I invest in Exxon. 
    Not the best analogy. You're funding lobbyists whose job is to block any gun control legislation.  
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,237
    Go Beavers said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    josevolution said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Kat said:
    Rosanne Cash says that the “N.R.A. funds domestic terrorism.”
    I hope more activists join her.
    So I fund domestic terrorism since I am a NRA member?  That s a pretty assinine statement by rosanne cash. 
    mcgruff10 said:
    Kat said:
    Rosanne Cash says that the “N.R.A. funds domestic terrorism.”
    I hope more activists join her.
    So I fund domestic terrorism since I am a NRA member?  That s a pretty assinine statement by rosanne cash. 
    I knew you owend weapons but didn't realize your a member damn so you pay to be a member that means you contribute to the organization no ? not that Rosanne is correct but still ....
    Yeah the range I belongs to requires me to be a member. But to suggest that NRA members support domestic terrorism is really dumb. Thatcsclijecsaying I am pro oil spills since I invest in Exxon. 
    Not the best analogy. You're funding lobbyists whose job is to block any gun control legislation.  
    Yeah I've had better.  I got a sick four year old hanging on my shoulder so I'm not 100% lol.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,977
    edited October 2017
    mace1229 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Well it's a stretch because they don't fund it directly... do they even fund it at all? I would say that they purposefully work to support the ease with which people can carry out domestic terrorism. And yeah, they fund that, and lobby for it very successfully... in part by paying off politicians, which I would also consider corrupt TBH, but I know it's commonplace. I don't see how that could be argued against. I've got to admit I'm a little bit taken aback to know that anyone here is actually a member of the fucking NRA, given everything they do. They are a really twisted bunch, and they play dirty politics.
    The only issue I have is "purposefully work to support the ease with which people can carry out domestic terrorism." That to me that sounds like you're implying their goal is to intentionally make it easier for terrorism. I don't think anyone has any reason to believe they want to make it easier for terrorists. I wouldn't argue against that the rights they fight for do make it easier for domestic terrorists like this last shooter, but in no way do I think that is their goal. And to purposefully chose the word "fund" would definitely imply they are in support of such acts. 
    I'm not a member, but my dad is. He joined in the 60s or 70s when it was a difference beast. It was a one time lifetime membership I think, and did it to get discounts into gun shows and such, not as much the politics of it. 
    I can see why you read it like that, but that's not exactly what I mean... however... it kinda is anyway. I mean, that is not their goal, but they know as well as any of us that what they do DOES do that... So really, how departed from that can we really say they are?? Not at all, IMO. It's not that they want to do that... but they don't care if they do, and at the end of the day, what's the difference, really?
    (PS - I am taken aback by people here being members and anyone being a member, actually. But I wasn't implying that just regular members are funding terrorism. I don't think of random members from where ever who like the gun range and gun show are one in the same as the actual organization... However, their being members isn't helping any! Everyone is playing a part, that can't really be denied)
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 32,220
    mcgruff10 said:
    Go Beavers said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    josevolution said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Kat said:
    Rosanne Cash says that the “N.R.A. funds domestic terrorism.”
    I hope more activists join her.
    So I fund domestic terrorism since I am a NRA member?  That s a pretty assinine statement by rosanne cash. 
    mcgruff10 said:
    Kat said:
    Rosanne Cash says that the “N.R.A. funds domestic terrorism.”
    I hope more activists join her.
    So I fund domestic terrorism since I am a NRA member?  That s a pretty assinine statement by rosanne cash. 
    I knew you owend weapons but didn't realize your a member damn so you pay to be a member that means you contribute to the organization no ? not that Rosanne is correct but still ....
    Yeah the range I belongs to requires me to be a member. But to suggest that NRA members support domestic terrorism is really dumb. Thatcsclijecsaying I am pro oil spills since I invest in Exxon. 
    Not the best analogy. You're funding lobbyists whose job is to block any gun control legislation.  
    Yeah I've had better.  I got a sick four year old hanging on my shoulder so I'm not 100% lol.
    Ah i hope the kid feels better soon !
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
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