America's Gun Violence

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  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    All gun laws are infringements. We won't comply.
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,618
    edited December 2016
    unsung said:

    All gun laws are infringements. We won't comply.

    Infringement on what?
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,458
    Go Beavers said:

    unsung said:

    All gun laws are infringements. We won't comply.

    Infringement on what?
    Why bother asking a follow up to that? No answer will have any reasoning.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    tbergs said:

    Go Beavers said:

    unsung said:

    All gun laws are infringements. We won't comply.

    Infringement on what?
    Why bother asking a follow up to that? No answer will have any reasoning.
    It is a question that he already knows the answer to.
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,618
    unsung said:

    tbergs said:

    Go Beavers said:

    unsung said:

    All gun laws are infringements. We won't comply.

    Infringement on what?
    Why bother asking a follow up to that? No answer will have any reasoning.
    It is a question that he already knows the answer to.
    I was thinking laws were part of a well regulated militia.
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,458
    Go Beavers said:

    unsung said:

    tbergs said:

    Go Beavers said:

    unsung said:

    All gun laws are infringements. We won't comply.

    Infringement on what?
    Why bother asking a follow up to that? No answer will have any reasoning.
    It is a question that he already knows the answer to.
    I was thinking laws were part of a well regulated militia.
    It's evolution baby! We will create to destroy. If only we would evolve beyond that thinking.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Go Beavers said:

    unsung said:

    tbergs said:

    Go Beavers said:

    unsung said:

    All gun laws are infringements. We won't comply.

    Infringement on what?
    Why bother asking a follow up to that? No answer will have any reasoning.
    It is a question that he already knows the answer to.
    I was thinking laws were part of a well regulated militia.
    Ok, I am in a militia.
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,618
    unsung said:

    Go Beavers said:

    unsung said:

    tbergs said:

    Go Beavers said:

    unsung said:

    All gun laws are infringements. We won't comply.

    Infringement on what?
    Why bother asking a follow up to that? No answer will have any reasoning.
    It is a question that he already knows the answer to.
    I was thinking laws were part of a well regulated militia.
    Ok, I am in a militia.
    So then there's no infringment. Being regulated means you're in line with the Constitution.
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Go Beavers said:

    unsung said:

    Go Beavers said:

    unsung said:

    tbergs said:

    Go Beavers said:

    unsung said:

    All gun laws are infringements. We won't comply.

    Infringement on what?
    Why bother asking a follow up to that? No answer will have any reasoning.
    It is a question that he already knows the answer to.
    I was thinking laws were part of a well regulated militia.
    Ok, I am in a militia.
    So then there's no infringment. Being regulated means you're in line with the Constitution.
    Trying to pass ammo stamping and mag size limits is an infringement. Taxing a Right is an infringement. Requiring a license on a Right is an infringement.

    Remember how you guys are against requiring an ID to vote?

    Either way, pass all the laws you want, it just expands the black market.
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    Unsung...

    C'mon, man.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited December 2016
    unsung said:

    Go Beavers said:

    unsung said:

    Go Beavers said:

    unsung said:

    tbergs said:

    Go Beavers said:

    unsung said:

    All gun laws are infringements. We won't comply.

    Infringement on what?
    Why bother asking a follow up to that? No answer will have any reasoning.
    It is a question that he already knows the answer to.
    I was thinking laws were part of a well regulated militia.
    Ok, I am in a militia.
    So then there's no infringment. Being regulated means you're in line with the Constitution.
    Trying to pass ammo stamping and mag size limits is an infringement. Taxing a Right is an infringement. Requiring a license on a Right is an infringement.

    Remember how you guys are against requiring an ID to vote?

    Either way, pass all the laws you want, it just expands the black market.
    Well, fortunately for gun owners, they cannot pass all of the laws they want, especially on a federal level. Yet they keep throwing more and more money at it, losing elections one at a time. You would think that they would put a little time and effort into education, training, poverty at some point...I bet you would find more deficits correlating with violence in those areas and money better spent as well. With all of the wasted $ spent by Bloomberg, there could be some great improvements to inner city schools in the most poverse of communities or after school programs...or you name it. Thwarting the gang culture would make a big difference related to firearm violence numbers...but that's not their real goal is it?
    Post edited by PJPOWER on
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    PJPOWER said:

    unsung said:

    Go Beavers said:

    unsung said:

    Go Beavers said:

    unsung said:

    tbergs said:

    Go Beavers said:

    unsung said:

    All gun laws are infringements. We won't comply.

    Infringement on what?
    Why bother asking a follow up to that? No answer will have any reasoning.
    It is a question that he already knows the answer to.
    I was thinking laws were part of a well regulated militia.
    Ok, I am in a militia.
    So then there's no infringment. Being regulated means you're in line with the Constitution.
    Trying to pass ammo stamping and mag size limits is an infringement. Taxing a Right is an infringement. Requiring a license on a Right is an infringement.

    Remember how you guys are against requiring an ID to vote?

    Either way, pass all the laws you want, it just expands the black market.
    Well, fortunately for gun owners, they cannot pass all of the laws they want, especially on a federal level. Yet they keep throwing more and more money at it, losing elections one at a time. You would think that they would put a little time and effort into education, training, poverty at some point...I bet you would find more deficits correlating with violence in those areas and money better spent as well.
    Sure, but it doesn't have to be and shouldn't be an either/or. And other countries also have to deal with poverty and lack of opportunities without seeing massive firearms deaths, where those firearms aren't readily available.
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    Unsung...

    C'mon, man.

    Nah, no more playing nice on this trying to show my side. Simple fact there's nothing going to happen, nor will we comply to laws limiting our Rights.
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    PJPOWER said:

    unsung said:

    Go Beavers said:

    unsung said:

    Go Beavers said:

    unsung said:

    tbergs said:

    Go Beavers said:

    unsung said:

    All gun laws are infringements. We won't comply.

    Infringement on what?
    Why bother asking a follow up to that? No answer will have any reasoning.
    It is a question that he already knows the answer to.
    I was thinking laws were part of a well regulated militia.
    Ok, I am in a militia.
    So then there's no infringment. Being regulated means you're in line with the Constitution.
    Trying to pass ammo stamping and mag size limits is an infringement. Taxing a Right is an infringement. Requiring a license on a Right is an infringement.

    Remember how you guys are against requiring an ID to vote?

    Either way, pass all the laws you want, it just expands the black market.
    Well, fortunately for gun owners, they cannot pass all of the laws they want, especially on a federal level. Yet they keep throwing more and more money at it, losing elections one at a time. You would think that they would put a little time and effort into education, training, poverty at some point...I bet you would find more deficits correlating with violence in those areas and money better spent as well. With all of the wasted $ spent by Bloomberg, there could be some great improvements to inner city schools in the most poverse of communities or after school programs...or you name it. Thwarting the gang culture would make a big difference related to firearm violence numbers...but that's not their real goal is it?
    Nope, sure isn't.
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,618
    PJPOWER said:

    unsung said:

    Go Beavers said:

    unsung said:

    Go Beavers said:

    unsung said:

    tbergs said:

    Go Beavers said:

    unsung said:

    All gun laws are infringements. We won't comply.

    Infringement on what?
    Why bother asking a follow up to that? No answer will have any reasoning.
    It is a question that he already knows the answer to.
    I was thinking laws were part of a well regulated militia.
    Ok, I am in a militia.
    So then there's no infringment. Being regulated means you're in line with the Constitution.
    Trying to pass ammo stamping and mag size limits is an infringement. Taxing a Right is an infringement. Requiring a license on a Right is an infringement.

    Remember how you guys are against requiring an ID to vote?

    Either way, pass all the laws you want, it just expands the black market.
    Well, fortunately for gun owners, they cannot pass all of the laws they want, especially on a federal level. Yet they keep throwing more and more money at it, losing elections one at a time. You would think that they would put a little time and effort into education, training, poverty at some point...I bet you would find more deficits correlating with violence in those areas and money better spent as well. With all of the wasted $ spent by Bloomberg, there could be some great improvements to inner city schools in the most poverse of communities or after school programs...or you name it. Thwarting the gang culture would make a big difference related to firearm violence numbers...but that's not their real goal is it?
    Wouldn't it also be great if the NRA did the same thing?
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,517
    unsung said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    Unsung...

    C'mon, man.

    Nah, no more playing nice on this trying to show my side. Simple fact there's nothing going to happen, nor will we comply to laws limiting our Rights.
    Careful with that kind of rhetoric
    You know very well the government sees everything you write.

    But I'm sure you'll be ready, willing, and able to defend yourself when President Obama sends in his U.N. troops for you and your "militia".
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,618
    PJPOWER said:

    unsung said:

    Go Beavers said:

    unsung said:

    Go Beavers said:

    unsung said:

    tbergs said:

    Go Beavers said:

    unsung said:

    All gun laws are infringements. We won't comply.

    Infringement on what?
    Why bother asking a follow up to that? No answer will have any reasoning.
    It is a question that he already knows the answer to.
    I was thinking laws were part of a well regulated militia.
    Ok, I am in a militia.
    So then there's no infringment. Being regulated means you're in line with the Constitution.
    Trying to pass ammo stamping and mag size limits is an infringement. Taxing a Right is an infringement. Requiring a license on a Right is an infringement.

    Remember how you guys are against requiring an ID to vote?

    Either way, pass all the laws you want, it just expands the black market.
    Well, fortunately for gun owners, they cannot pass all of the laws they want, especially on a federal level. Yet they keep throwing more and more money at it, losing elections one at a time. You would think that they would put a little time and effort into education, training, poverty at some point...I bet you would find more deficits correlating with violence in those areas and money better spent as well. With all of the wasted $ spent by Bloomberg, there could be some great improvements to inner city schools in the most poverse of communities or after school programs...or you name it. Thwarting the gang culture would make a big difference related to firearm violence numbers...but that's not their real goal is it?
    Wouldn't it also be great if the NRA did the same thing?
    unsung said:

    Go Beavers said:

    unsung said:

    Go Beavers said:

    unsung said:

    tbergs said:

    Go Beavers said:

    unsung said:

    All gun laws are infringements. We won't comply.

    Infringement on what?
    Why bother asking a follow up to that? No answer will have any reasoning.
    It is a question that he already knows the answer to.
    I was thinking laws were part of a well regulated militia.
    Ok, I am in a militia.
    So then there's no infringment. Being regulated means you're in line with the Constitution.
    Trying to pass ammo stamping and mag size limits is an infringement. Taxing a Right is an infringement. Requiring a license on a Right is an infringement.

    Remember how you guys are against requiring an ID to vote?

    Either way, pass all the laws you want, it just expands the black market.
    Your analogy would only work if the Constitution referenced a "well regulated voter bloc". I think what you're calling infringements were built into the Constitution as a regulation.
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Bentleyspop said:

    unsung said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    Unsung...

    C'mon, man.

    Nah, no more playing nice on this trying to show my side. Simple fact there's nothing going to happen, nor will we comply to laws limiting our Rights.
    Careful with that kind of rhetoric
    You know very well the government sees everything you write.

    But I'm sure you'll be ready, willing, and able to defend yourself when President Obama sends in his U.N. troops for you and your "militia".
    It isn't rhetoric.

    Every single restriction on anything creates a black market. It is a natural response.

    BTW, my "militia" is defined in my State Constitution. We aren't a group of wingnuts, our State sponsors us by law.
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    edited December 2016
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    unsung said:

    Go Beavers said:

    unsung said:

    tbergs said:

    Go Beavers said:

    unsung said:

    All gun laws are infringements. We won't comply.

    Infringement on what?
    Why bother asking a follow up to that? No answer will have any reasoning.
    It is a question that he already knows the answer to.
    I was thinking laws were part of a well regulated militia.
    Ok, I am in a militia.
    Good for you. Leave your armaments at the armory. When you're called to duty, you can go pick them up.
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    Go Beavers said:

    PJPOWER said:

    unsung said:

    Go Beavers said:

    unsung said:

    Go Beavers said:

    unsung said:

    tbergs said:

    Go Beavers said:

    unsung said:

    All gun laws are infringements. We won't comply.

    Infringement on what?
    Why bother asking a follow up to that? No answer will have any reasoning.
    It is a question that he already knows the answer to.
    I was thinking laws were part of a well regulated militia.
    Ok, I am in a militia.
    So then there's no infringment. Being regulated means you're in line with the Constitution.
    Trying to pass ammo stamping and mag size limits is an infringement. Taxing a Right is an infringement. Requiring a license on a Right is an infringement.

    Remember how you guys are against requiring an ID to vote?

    Either way, pass all the laws you want, it just expands the black market.
    Well, fortunately for gun owners, they cannot pass all of the laws they want, especially on a federal level. Yet they keep throwing more and more money at it, losing elections one at a time. You would think that they would put a little time and effort into education, training, poverty at some point...I bet you would find more deficits correlating with violence in those areas and money better spent as well. With all of the wasted $ spent by Bloomberg, there could be some great improvements to inner city schools in the most poverse of communities or after school programs...or you name it. Thwarting the gang culture would make a big difference related to firearm violence numbers...but that's not their real goal is it?
    Wouldn't it also be great if the NRA did the same thing?
    They do a lot towards gun safety training. I think they are accomplishing their goals of protecting and expanding gun owner rights, so I'm not sure they are wasting $ in the same way Bloomberg has.
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