I am wondering aloud: lions are social creatures and can see how those bonds develop given their nature... are tigers (more solitary) capable of such strong connections with humans?
I am wondering aloud: lions are social creatures and can see how those bonds develop given their nature... are tigers (more solitary) capable of such strong connections with humans?
I am wondering aloud: lions are social creatures and can see how those bonds develop given their nature... are tigers (more solitary) capable of such strong connections with humans?
Yes
Such powerful, majestic animals. I love tigers.
Hedo... if you haven't read 'The Tiger'... do so immediately. Absolutely awesome.
Well I don't know if you all think this is even news, let alone good news (from back in March), but I think it is. I like this shit - I want some!! Vantablack: The blackest material on Earth. Wow! That isn't photoshopped!
Well, um, it's not BAD news.... hard to call something that so clearly highlights the fact that the suppression of women is still by far the greatest human rights violation happening in the world and hardly anyone even thinks about it most of the time, but ..... The Saudi government says it will make driving legal for women, so yay? It's certainly good news compared to them saying they still won't be able to, right? (really I just couldn't find another thread that this story would fit into...... because there is no reasonably recent thread specifically about the worst human rights crisis on the face of the planet, or at least I didn't see one).
Saudi government says it will allow women to drive for the first time
Writer Washington Post Staff September 26 at 3:26 PM
King
Salman decreed that a government body draw up guidelines and implement
the policy by next June, according to state media. The conservative
Muslim kingdom has been criticized around the world for banning women
from driving.
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
You beat me to it and this is the thread I thought of too. In a country that has so far to go in a better direction, this is a step and that's good news.
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Whoa! That's great news! Way to go Saudis! Now keep the momentum!
"Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!" -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
Well, um, it's not BAD news.... hard to call something that so clearly highlights the fact that the suppression of women is still by far the greatest human rights violation happening in the world and hardly anyone even thinks about it most of the time, but ..... The Saudi government says it will make driving legal for women, so yay? It's certainly good news compared to them saying they still won't be able to, right? (really I just couldn't find another thread that this story would fit into...... because there is no reasonably recent thread specifically about the worst human rights crisis on the face of the planet, or at least I didn't see one).
Saudi government says it will allow women to drive for the first time
Writer Washington Post Staff September 26 at 3:26 PM
King
Salman decreed that a government body draw up guidelines and implement
the policy by next June, according to state media. The conservative
Muslim kingdom has been criticized around the world for banning women
from driving.
I heard an interesting radio program on the CBC a few days ago. It was an interview with a Saudi film maker who has a film out (fiction) that draws on her experience, and those of women she knows, growing up and living in Saudi Arabia. She talked at length about how the inability to drive affects so many areas of life. Women are "allowed" to work in many fields, but if they can't drive themselves to work, and there is little or no public transit, how do they get there? They have to rely on their male relatives being willing, or hire drivers. There is apparently a major underground economy in drivers, and since Saudi women don't get paid much, they tend to hire the dregs of the drivers, who are chronically late, disrespectful, etc.
And even if they are not working outside the home, how do Saudi women get their kids to school, if school is further away than one can easily walk? So the children may be late to school, or miss school.
It really affects all areas of their lives.
my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
Well, um, it's not BAD news.... hard to call something that so clearly highlights the fact that the suppression of women is still by far the greatest human rights violation happening in the world and hardly anyone even thinks about it most of the time, but ..... The Saudi government says it will make driving legal for women, so yay? It's certainly good news compared to them saying they still won't be able to, right? (really I just couldn't find another thread that this story would fit into...... because there is no reasonably recent thread specifically about the worst human rights crisis on the face of the planet, or at least I didn't see one).
Saudi government says it will allow women to drive for the first time
Writer Washington Post Staff September 26 at 3:26 PM
King
Salman decreed that a government body draw up guidelines and implement
the policy by next June, according to state media. The conservative
Muslim kingdom has been criticized around the world for banning women
from driving.
I heard an interesting radio program on the CBC a few days ago. It was an interview with a Saudi film maker who has a film out (fiction) that draws on her experience, and those of women she knows, growing up and living in Saudi Arabia. She talked at length about how the inability to drive affects so many areas of life. Women are "allowed" to work in many fields, but if they can't drive themselves to work, and there is little or no public transit, how do they get there? They have to rely on their male relatives being willing, or hire drivers. There is apparently a major underground economy in drivers, and since Saudi women don't get paid much, they tend to hire the dregs of the drivers, who are chronically late, disrespectful, etc.
And even if they are not working outside the home, how do Saudi women get their kids to school, if school is further away than one can easily walk? So the children may be late to school, or miss school.
It really affects all areas of their lives.
Yes indeed. Let's just keep in mind that while they may be allowed by the government to drive, that does not in any way mean they will necessarily be allowed to. Most will still have to be accompanied by a man, and plenty of the men who are controlling them (husbands, fathers, whoever) won't let them drive anyhow, or will make it so restrictive that there is hardly any point. I know this is supposed to be a good news thread, and yeah, this is of course one step in the right direction, but it's still important to acknowledge that just being legally allowed to do something doesn't always mean a whole hell of a lot for many of these women, depending on their circumstances. But yeah, I'm not meaning to dismiss the importance of the ruling... let's hope it sticks. It doesn't take much in places where religion rules for things like this to jump backwards again.
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
And here is some more on this Saudi thing.... just FYI, the trending hashtag in the hours following the driving announcement was #thewomenofmyhousewillnotdrive Also, while the majority of university students there are women, only 15% of the workforce is female. Wowee. If it weren't for oil, their economy would be FUCKED. But anyway, there is also good news in this article. That stat about the population age is crazy - 70% of the Saudi population is under 30???? What? If that's true, that is crazy. But also a good thing, for them, all things considered. Wtf happened to all the older people though??
I haven't yet read your article, PJ Soul, but will later. I did want to comment that I've read that the major "driver" of the change in driving laws is indeed concern about the economy, not any sense of fairness or respect for human equality.
my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
I haven't yet read your article, PJ Soul, but will later. I did want to comment that I've read that the major "driver" of the change in driving laws is indeed concern about the economy, not any sense of fairness or respect for human equality.
Yes, that does seem to mostly be true at the end of the day, although I don't really know anything about this Prince who is apparently running the show and forcing change, so can't say what all of his motivations are. Economy is obviously top of the list for him too though.... I mean, he's likely realized that every 3rd world nation on the face of the planet has one thing in common: the lack of rights for females and their participation in society. What is really hard for me to swallow with many of these Sharia nations is that these restrictions for women are often very modern developments. Fucking church and state - probably the most dangerous combo in the world.... the USA is kind of on that dangerous track too, which is so disturbing.
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
With so many asshats in the NFL always making headlines for the wrong reasons, it was refreshing to see this rookie give his first professional game check to 3 cafeteria ladies that we're affected by Harvey. Classy move.
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I'll always be a sucker for that Christian the Lion clip, reuniting with his human friends.
(jesus, at the 3:00 mark?! - talk about shedding tears)
I am wondering aloud: lions are social creatures and can see how those bonds develop given their nature... are tigers (more solitary) capable of such strong connections with humans?
Hedo... if you haven't read 'The Tiger'... do so immediately. Absolutely awesome.
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
http://www.peggy991.com/syn/96/84438/texas-nursing-home-patients-safe-internet-wants-to-know-but-what-about-the-cat
https://www.gofundme.com/paypal-me-4pawsfarminc
$25k goal, already at $122k
https://www.sciencealert.com/this-object-has-been-sprayed-with-the-world-s-blackest-pigment-and-it-s-freaking-us-out
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/world/wp/2017/09/26/saudi-government-says-it-will-allow-women-to-drive-for-the-first-time/?utm_term=.f633264c8d63&wpisrc=al_alert-COMBO-world%2Bnation&wpmk=1
Saudi government says it will allow women to drive for the first time
King Salman decreed that a government body draw up guidelines and implement the policy by next June, according to state media. The conservative Muslim kingdom has been criticized around the world for banning women from driving.
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
I heard an interesting radio program on the CBC a few days ago. It was an interview with a Saudi film maker who has a film out (fiction) that draws on her experience, and those of women she knows, growing up and living in Saudi Arabia. She talked at length about how the inability to drive affects so many areas of life. Women are "allowed" to work in many fields, but if they can't drive themselves to work, and there is little or no public transit, how do they get there? They have to rely on their male relatives being willing, or hire drivers. There is apparently a major underground economy in drivers, and since Saudi women don't get paid much, they tend to hire the dregs of the drivers, who are chronically late, disrespectful, etc.
And even if they are not working outside the home, how do Saudi women get their kids to school, if school is further away than one can easily walk? So the children may be late to school, or miss school.
It really affects all areas of their lives.
(only thing I don't get is why the KKK dudes are still in "uniform" while posing with him)
Anyway, very cool. All hope is never lost...and music is yet again a gorgeous bond.
http://www.npr.org/2017/08/20/544861933/how-one-man-convinced-200-ku-klux-klan-members-to-give-up-their-robes
But yeah, I'm not meaning to dismiss the importance of the ruling... let's hope it sticks. It doesn't take much in places where religion rules for things like this to jump backwards again.
Also, while the majority of university students there are women, only 15% of the workforce is female. Wowee. If it weren't for oil, their economy would be FUCKED.
But anyway, there is also good news in this article. That stat about the population age is crazy - 70% of the Saudi population is under 30???? What? If that's true, that is crazy. But also a good thing, for them, all things considered. Wtf happened to all the older people though??
https://www.economist.com/news/middle-east-and-africa/21729721-bigger-changes-are-needed-ultraconservative-kingdom-saudi-arabia-will?cid1=cust/ddnew/email/n/n/20170927n/owned/n/n/ddnew/n/n/n/nna/Daily_Dispatch/email&etear=dailydispatch
What is really hard for me to swallow with many of these Sharia nations is that these restrictions for women are often very modern developments. Fucking church and state - probably the most dangerous combo in the world.... the USA is kind of on that dangerous track too, which is so disturbing.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/20841443/deshaun-watson-houston-texans-donates-game-check-three-women-impacted-hurricane-harvey
Can we give a high-paw to Frida for her work in Mexico City?