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unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
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http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2014/03/25/cops-drug-addicted-shoplifter-stabs-home-depot-security-guard-with-dirty-syringe/

Hopefully this creep doesn't have some disease.
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    dirt bag for sure,I hope he ghets at least 10 years and life if the needle is positive for hiv.


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  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    edited March 2014
    Good sumaritan gets in gun battle with robbers killing store employee in crossfire. Robbers get away.

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    Post edited by callen on
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    so one out of every thousand attacks has a "good guy with a gun". this is why every one of them gets it's own thread i guess.
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  • Thirty Bills UnpaidThirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    gimmesometruth27 said:

    so one out of every thousand attacks has a "good guy with a gun". this is why every one of them gets it's own thread i guess.

    Well... c'mon, man. These events are very, very rare. It's more like one out of every 10,000 in fact. Just like airline disasters get their threads given their extremely rare occurrences... so should the 'good guy with gun saves the day threads'.

    They're such a refreshing news bit compared to the dreary gun related murder news items that spring up every couple of minutes.
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  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    this is borderline pathetic
  • Thirty Bills UnpaidThirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    edited March 2014
    polaris_x said:

    this is borderline pathetic

    Are you sure it's not full blown pathetic?

    What I wonder is if the good Samaritan was actually going to use it? I mean, if the deranged junkie broke free form the guards and approached the gun owner... was a shot going to be fired, or was the gun going to be taken from his hands and turned on everyone?

    This story played out as well as it could have, but I see another scenario that could have been the result- it has happened many times in the past.
    Post edited by Thirty Bills Unpaid on
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  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    polaris_x said:

    this is borderline pathetic

    Are you sure it's not full blown pathetic?

    What I wonder is if the good Samaritan was actually going to use it? I mean, if the deranged junkie broke free form the guards and approached the gun owner... was a shot going to be fired, or was the gun going to be taken from his hands and turned on everyone?

    This story played out as well as it could have, but I see another scenario that could have been the result- it has happened many times in the past.
    it probably is but i was trying to be diplomatic ...

    posting a new thread every week pushing the same agenda is ridiculous ... the OP continues to look at the issue from a microscopic perspective ... i could post a new thread every day about how guns killed an innocent person ... does it really accomplish anything? ... these threads are akin to posting a survey in which the question is ... "if everyone you loved could be saved from a horrific death with a gun - would you own one?" ...

    lame
  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    Don't want average joe w gun becoming my unsolicited cop.
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  • JonnyPistachioJonnyPistachio Posts: 10,219
    Good story. I'm glad the guy didnt have to fire his weapon - because that would probably be a lawsuit these days.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    edited March 2014
    he probably would have missed and hit someone else. i saw some stats last year that backed me up on that.
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    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    I just every post....... :)) man you guy's would give up the farm.


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  • shortstackshortstack Posts: 2,339
    callen said:

    Don't want average joe w gun becoming my unsolicited cop.

    i feel the same way, especially in that neighborhood. it's filled with those "off" guys that drive old police cars and carry.
    i'm afraid this story is going to inspire others to be the good guy with a gun. scary.

    i didn't think security guards in stores still apprehended shoplifters.

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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    most times the security guards let the shoplifters go. i mean, who wants to take a bullet over some dumbass piece of merchandise?
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    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    gimmesometruth27 said:

    so one out of every thousand attacks has a "good guy with a gun". this is why every one of them gets it's own thread i guess.

    Well... c'mon, man. These events are very, very rare. It's more like one out of every 10,000 in fact. Just like airline disasters get their threads given their extremely rare occurrences... so should the 'good guy with gun saves the day threads'.

    They're such a refreshing news bit compared to the dreary gun related murder news items that spring up every couple of minutes.



    Just like those AR-15's that are used in crime, but that hasn't stopped you, has it?
  • Thirty Bills UnpaidThirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    unsung said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    gimmesometruth27 said:

    so one out of every thousand attacks has a "good guy with a gun". this is why every one of them gets it's own thread i guess.

    Well... c'mon, man. These events are very, very rare. It's more like one out of every 10,000 in fact. Just like airline disasters get their threads given their extremely rare occurrences... so should the 'good guy with gun saves the day threads'.

    They're such a refreshing news bit compared to the dreary gun related murder news items that spring up every couple of minutes.



    Just like those AR-15's that are used in crime, but that hasn't stopped you, has it?
    Word has it that the good Samaritan had the gun pointed backwards with his thumb through the trigger guard.

    Psshhewww. Thank Gawd he didn't pull the trigger.
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  • cornnifercornnifer Posts: 2,130
    The following is an excerpt from an article debunking several republican/conservative ass hat arguments, including the one apparently being made by the OP.

    "A gun in the house minimally doubles the risk that a household member will kill himself or herself. ( Some studies put the increase in suicide risk as high as 10 times.) An American is 50 percent more likely to be shot dead by his or her own hand, than to be shot dead by a criminal assailant. More than 30,000 Americans injure themselves with guns every year."
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  • Thirty Bills UnpaidThirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    cornnifer said:

    The following is an excerpt from an article debunking several republican/conservative ass hat arguments, including the one apparently being made by the OP.

    "A gun in the house minimally doubles the risk that a household member will kill himself or herself. ( Some studies put the increase in suicide risk as high as 10 times.) An American is 50 percent more likely to be shot dead by his or her own hand, than to be shot dead by a criminal assailant. More than 30,000 Americans injure themselves with guns every year."

    The classic thing is... how many of those 30,000 Americans who injure themselves with guns each year spent time blathering on about responsible gun ownership and rights prior to shooting their foot off?

    It's always someone else... until it's not someone else.
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  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    That's Darwinism.
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    Here's the deal with statistics...
    You need to look into what the data is, in order to figure out what it means. Example, I pulled thie data from the Centers Of Disesase Control (CDC) because they keep track of death certificates. This is the data filed in 2009. I extracte only the data regarding Firearms and Transportation, since those are the favorites to compare.
    Firearm...................31,347
    Unintentional..............554
    Suicide....................18,735
    Homicide..... ..........11,493
    Undetermined ............232
    Legalintervention/war. 333

    All transport ............38,438
    Unintentional............38,255
    Suicide ............................104
    Homicide...........................60
    Undetermined .................19
    Legalintervention/war.....–

    Motor vehicle traffic.....34,485
    Occupant ......................12,349
    Motorcyclist....................4,214
    Pedal cyclist.......................529
    Pedestrian.......................4,109
    ( ref. http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr60/nvsr60_03.pdf
    (Table 18 - Number of deaths, death rates, and age-adjusted death rates for injury deaths, by mechanism and intent of death: United States, 2009 - page 81))
    NOTE: All Transport includes Motor Vehicle (Car, Truck, Van, Bus) as well as Aviation and Rail.

    Even though we cannot see the details of the homocides by gun (most homocides occur when the victim knows the assailant), there were more suicides by gun.. than homocides by gun. And again, I know we cannot see how many of those suicides were commited by the gun's owner or by a family member or friend or stranger, but we can still look at the totals.
    Gun owners might want to consider that risk when they decide to bring that gun into a home where multiple persons live.
    ...
    Also, we can also see how statistics can be used to come up with silly conclusions, such as using the above data to support the conclusion that bicycles are the safest form of trasnportation. You can prove that to me by riding your bicycle from Long Beach to San Francisco over night.
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  • go prego pre Posts: 662
    guns don't stop violent drug addicts, people stop violent drug addicts.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    i am not swayed.

    where is wayne lapierre when we need him to make his case?

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    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
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    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    edited March 2014
    That's good trigger discipline, those kids appear to be trained well.

    I'm guessing they aren't loaded either.
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    Don't care that the kids have guns, but daddy posing them up to look menacing with his guns...incredibly disturbing... A GUN IS NOT A TOY. IT IS NOT TO BE HANDLED IN A FRIVOLENT MANNER....EVER.
    I was raised safely around guns and this was rule number one...this sort of disrespect teaches kids that guns need not be taken seriously, and as a gun advocate you should be condemning this, not covering your delight with justifications like "trigger control" and "unloaded"
    TREAT ALL FIREARMS AS LOADED AND CHAMBERED AT ALL TIMES. Again, this is gun safety 101. That's how people shoot themselves in the face right there...
    NEVER POINT A GUN AT SOMEONE'S HEAD. EVER.
    Another flagrant violation of firearm safety...
    And you wonder why we question the phrase "responsible gun owner"
    you should be denouncing this vehemently!
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    "well trained"
    is the girl in the middle, the one with two guns pointed at her head, even potty trained yet? Jeepers she looks not even a day over 3! Well trained??
    Let's hope she doesn't remember this, and try to recreate it before she goes to kindergarten.
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    oh, they are handling firearms standing on top of chairs as well.
    Sorry folks, cant edit, gotta add..
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  • Thirty Bills UnpaidThirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    edited March 2014
    This is the mentality reasonable people argue against. To me... this embodies the absolutely ridiculous nature of the gun situation in the USA. When I say 'this'... I refer to the supporting comment Unsung- one of the more well-versed gun enthusiasts on these pages- makes defending this absurd picture and what it tends to portray.

    I've said it before... the inmates are running the asylum.
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  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    I tend to not get emotional about a stupid picture, but we should ban chairs for taking part in this evil event.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
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    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    ^^^ good guy with a gun.....and guitar hero controllers.....and a skullet....
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    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
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