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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    eeriepadave said:
    Cliffy6745 said:
    I got 115 for Baltimore. Row a. Looks kinda shitty. Low but back corner 
    same section as me then ( i think i'm in row E). I was in section 114 the last time. although i got that one through ticketmaster. I guess higher demand this time.
    Oh nice. How was 114?
  • eeriepadave
    eeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 43,195
    Cliffy6745 said:
    eeriepadave said:
    Cliffy6745 said:
    I got 115 for Baltimore. Row a. Looks kinda shitty. Low but back corner 
    same section as me then ( i think i'm in row E). I was in section 114 the last time. although i got that one through ticketmaster. I guess higher demand this time.
    Oh nice. How was 114?
    yeah it's in the back but but they were decent seats, I think i was in AA or BB (first or second row)
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    eeriepadave said:
    Cliffy6745 said:
    eeriepadave said:
    Cliffy6745 said:
    I got 115 for Baltimore. Row a. Looks kinda shitty. Low but back corner 
    same section as me then ( i think i'm in row E). I was in section 114 the last time. although i got that one through ticketmaster. I guess higher demand this time.
    Oh nice. How was 114?
    yeah it's in the back but but they were decent seats, I think i was in AA or BB (first or second row)
    Image may contain 1 person crowd and night



    Okay okay. I’ll take it. Helps it’s such a small place 
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,812
    Poncier said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Got pretty good seats at MSG from my number not being low.  The prioritized higher numbers for the floor and I got stage side, which is preferable.  115 row 13
    Not sure about my wife's seats and trade partner to see how that works out. 


    Those are actually damn good seats. I've sat in similar "side stage" sections for a bunch of concerts in the past (sometimes because they were half the price of the next section over in the case of acts like U2 and Macca) and they are usually a great view. You'll be right on top of Mike.
    Hope so, depends on the stage setup.  Per the chart, it looks awesome.  Per the View From My Seat and Google, it depends on how they set up the stage.

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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    Know who had a lot more than 2 good seasons for the Phillies, won a championship and didn't crash his plane flying it like an idiot (potentially stoned)?  Chase Utley.  Retire his number instead.
  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
    Cliffy6745 said:
     Chase Utley.  Retire his number
    I'll just remove the parts I didn't like and quote the part I did. 
    2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024: Philly 2, 2025: Pittsburgh 1

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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,530
    I actually give the Phillies credit for sticking to the theme that you have to be in the Hall of Fame to have your number retired. Not like that bullshit Wall of Fame nonsense.

    BUT...with that said - Doc shouldn't have his number retired, and the Phils are definitely going to have to retire some numbers of some guys who are not making the Hall of Fame (Utley, Rollins, Hamels, Howard).
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    edited February 2020
    But doc is only in the hall of fame for said reasons lol.

    curious how they handle those 4. Not sure how you do one and not the rest and given those restrictions some tough decisions 
    Post edited by Cliffy6745 on
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,812
    Cliffy6745 said:
    Know who had a lot more than 2 good seasons for the Phillies, won a championship and didn't crash his plane flying it like an idiot (potentially stoned)?  Chase Utley.  Retire his number instead.
    :lol:. 
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,530
    Cliffy6745 said:
    But doc is only in the hall of fame for said reasons lol.

    curious how they handle those 4. Not sure how you do one and not the rest and given those restrictions some tough decisions 
    Haha, maybe? He definitely got in quickly because of those, uh, "merits" (?) and never should have went in with two hats.

    Absolutely all 4 should be treated the same. There's a slight argument to maybe be made for Rollins and Utley when it comes to the actual HOF. But that's not happening and all 4 should be treated the same in this regard. Just have some big circus and put all 4 of them up there on the same day. But they'll drag it out I'm sure.


  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,912
    Cliffy6745 said:
    Know who had a lot more than 2 good seasons for the Phillies, won a championship and didn't crash his plane flying it like an idiot (potentially stoned)?  Chase Utley.  Retire his number instead.
    There were two other guys in the infield of that team who should have their number retired before chase.  Love chase but the other two were league mvp’s.  hardware matters

    And Rollins will make the hall of fame and I think ultimately Howard is 50/50 to make it.
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    pjhawks said:
    Cliffy6745 said:
    Know who had a lot more than 2 good seasons for the Phillies, won a championship and didn't crash his plane flying it like an idiot (potentially stoned)?  Chase Utley.  Retire his number instead.
    There were two other guys in the infield of that team who should have their number retired before chase.  Love chase but the other two were league mvp’s.  hardware matters

    And Rollins will make the hall of fame and I think ultimately Howard is 50/50 to make it.
    Chase Utley had a SIGNIFICANTLY better career than both Rollins and Howard.
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,530
    edited February 2020
    Not even touching this for a deep convo. The two of the four who could remotely be considered for the HOF is Utley and Rollins, both for actual votes by writers and the veteran committee. I don't think Rollins gets in with the writers because the numbers aren't there. I could see Utley possibly getting in with the numbers because he was the hands-down best 2nd basemen for a 5-6 year window (this is the merit essentially Doc was getting in for, but for a decade). On the other hand, I could possibly see with an outside shot Rollins getting in with the veterans committee and mayyyybe Utley.

    But Hamels and Howard aren't Hall of Famers. Though all four definitely deserve to have their numbers retired with the Phillies.
    Post edited by Jearlpam0925 on
  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    Not even touching this for a deep convo. The two of the four who could remotely be considered for the HOF is Utley and Rollins, both for actual votes by writers and the veteran committee. I don't think Rollins gets in with the writers because the numbers aren't there. I could see Utley possibly getting in with the numbers because he was the hands-down best 2nd basement for 5-6 year window (this is the merit essentially Doc was getting in for, but for a decade). On the other hand, I could possibly see with an outside shot Rollins getting in with the veterans committee and mayyyybe Utley.

    But Hamels and Howard aren't Hall of Famers. Though all four definitely deserve to have their numbers retired with the Phillies.
    Agree with all of this, especially the bolded part. 
    2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024: Philly 2, 2025: Pittsburgh 1

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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,530
    Yes, best 2nd basement for sure. Damn I gotta edit.

    Also a big fan of basically any advanced metrics on these things:
    https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/jaws_SS.shtml
    https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/jaws_2B.shtml
    https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/jaws_1B.shtml

    And the player similarity scores they have I always enjoy (I SAID I WOULDN'T DO THIS)
    Utley:
    1. Ian Kinsler (923.5)
    2. Bret Boone (908.2)
    3. Hanley Ramirez (896.0)
    4. Bobby Doerr (895.8) *
    5. Brandon Phillips (884.4)
    6. Bobby Grich (882.6)
    7. Vern Stephens (879.2)
    8. Ray Durham (877.3)
    9. Travis Fryman (870.4)
    10. Joe Gordon (867.3) *

    * - Signifies Hall of Famer
    Rollins:

    1. arry Larkin (861.4) *
    2. Alan Trammell (850.4) *
    3. Lou Whitaker (836.1)
    4. Roberto Alomar (829.5) *
    5. Edgar Renteria (819.6)
    6. Ryne Sandberg (814.3) *
    7. Jay Bell (804.3)
    8. Ted Simmons (797.1) *
    9. Joe Morgan (795.3) *
    10. Ray Durham (795.2)

    * - Signifies Hall of Famer


    Howard

    1. Mo Vaughn (895.7)
    2. Prince Fielder (882.4)
    3. Nelson Cruz (879.1)
    4. Frank Howard (878.0)
    5. Darryl Strawberry (877.7)
    6. Richie Sexson (870.6)
    7. Cecil Fielder (868.5)
    8. Rocky Colavito (867.0)
    9. Greg Vaughn (865.2)
    10. Jeromy Burnitz (858.7)

    Actually, the more I look at these the more I'm persuaded to put Utley and Rollins in for sure.
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Cliffy6745 said:
    pjhawks said:
    Cliffy6745 said:
    Know who had a lot more than 2 good seasons for the Phillies, won a championship and didn't crash his plane flying it like an idiot (potentially stoned)?  Chase Utley.  Retire his number instead.
    There were two other guys in the infield of that team who should have their number retired before chase.  Love chase but the other two were league mvp’s.  hardware matters

    And Rollins will make the hall of fame and I think ultimately Howard is 50/50 to make it.
    Chase Utley had a SIGNIFICANTLY better career than both Rollins and Howard.
    anyone who thinks howard has a shot at the HOF is an idiot.  plain and simple.

    I don't think any of the three gets in -- but utley has best chance by far.

    halladay number being retired shows how pathetic this franchise is.  he started 103 games for them.  3 seasons.  haha.  maybe pedro martinez number is next to be retired.

    can't wait for another fourth place NL east finish this season.
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    too lazy to read back through all the comments, but does anyone like the new PJ song?  I think it's um, horrid.  Beginning of the song sounds like a direct ripoff of Wilco's Bull Black Nova -- which is a great song.

    will be hitting the baltimore show but I'm more excited to pre and post party w friends (including some of you here) than I am for the show.  PJ just isn't the same and hasn't been for better part of a decade now.  
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,812
    Pretty sure that I am the only other person who posted here that I don't like it.
    I don't think it is rock
    Boring.
    In 1981 I probably would have thought it was awesome.
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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,812
    Juggs...I did pull a trade for the BMore tickets with my MSG spares, sorry man, can't help you with them.
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  • pjhawks
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    https://www.espn.com/blog/jayson-stark/post/_/id/819/jimmy-rollins-unique-hall-of-fame-case

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