2023 Oscars

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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,445
    David Spade and Dana Carvey talks about it at the very start of their latest episode of their SNL-podcast. You can really feel for Carvey when he talks about being bullied as a child and how this triggered him. 
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,449

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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,336

    What was I trying to watch again?
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Part of me thinks that this is was all staged and just a ploy to up the ratings on these pathetic, narcissistic affairs. 
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,868
    hedonist said:
    Part of me thinks that this is was all staged and just a ploy to up the ratings on these pathetic, narcissistic affairs. 
    There are more than a few folks floating that theory.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    hedonist said:
    Part of me thinks that this is was all staged and just a ploy to up the ratings on these pathetic, narcissistic affairs. 
    part of me agrees. I had this conversation yesterday....the way Rock leans his chin out when Will's approaching...the fact he barely lifts his hands after; you'd think he'd put them up in defense, or at least wouldn't put them right back behind his back after...the barely-detectable smirk on Will's face as he walks away....
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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,603
    It makes no sense that it was staged. It made everyone feel uncomfortable. It hurt Williams reputation. As the above post mentioned about Dana Carvey. That's how I felt. The way Chris kept stumbling his words to announce the category.  Chris is not that good of an actor.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    igotid88 said:
    It makes no sense that it was staged. It made everyone feel uncomfortable. It hurt Williams reputation. As the above post mentioned about Dana Carvey. That's how I felt. The way Chris kept stumbling his words to announce the category.  Chris is not that good of an actor.
    hence the "part of me". I agree with everything you said....just....the things I noticed made it feel off somehow. But I'm sure you're right. 
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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,603
    If it was just the slap I could understand. It was the outburst after. 
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  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,251
    Why would Will Smith bring this on himself?  Wouldn’t winning best actor be enough to get at least some publicity?   The Academy isn’t going to benefit much.  I am not expecting a fight next year so I won’t be tuning in.  Rock might benefit but they have so much money why take a hit like this? 

    Why would Will have laughed at first if he was planning this all along?   That is some next level planning though if  it was staged to throw people off.  
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,824
    To me it looked stage until the audio cuts out and that’s the part Will is yelling out. Then I had that “oh, this is real” moment.
    I watched it the next morning, so I already knew what was going to happen. I heard this was on track to be the lowest watched year until people heard about the slap and tuned in.
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,251
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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,603
    I wanna say the only reason the ratings are down is for one there are so many things to watch on apps and so on. People usually watch clips on YouTube or tiktok the day after. Too many awards shows. The Oscars was where you saw all your favorite celebrities. Now you can see them everywhere. On their Instagram, Twitter, tik toks. You can even interact with some. Obviously there are political reasons for some.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    yeah, our kids' generation rarely watches anything on cable. and you're right...all they care about is clips and highlights. 
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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,603
    They celebrated 50 years of The Godfather and 30 years of White Men Can't Jump. I was hoping for 30 years of Singles. Wouldn't it have been great if Matt Dillon and Eddie showed up?
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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,824
    edited March 2022
    I don’t think that’s why nobody watches. It’s too long and boring. You can almost watch The Lord Of The Rings trilogy in that time. The hosts don’t bring their A-game, you think Chris has GI Jane references in his stand up? The majority of the show is filled with awards you didn’t know existed for a job you didn’t know people did going to names you never heard of. Do I really need to listen to some Foley artist I never heard of and never will again give a speech about how despite no one believing in him, he stuck with it and now his dream came true?
    And now it seems the nominees are obscure, I haven’t even heard of half the movies. When was the last iconic movie like Braveheart or Saving Private Ryan to win that I’d care to see a second time?
    I think that’s why no one watches.
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    mace1229 said:
    I don’t think that’s why nobody watches. It’s too long and boring. You can almost watch The Lord Of The Rings trilogy in that time. The hosts don’t bring their A-game, you think Chris has GI Jane references in his stand up? The majority of the show is filled with awards you didn’t know existed for a job you didn’t know people did going to names you never heard of. Do I really need to listen to some Foley artist I never heard of and never will again give a speech about how despite no one believing in him, he stuck with it and now his dream came true?
    And now it seems the nominees are obscure, I haven’t even heard of half the movies. When was the last iconic movie like Braveheart or Saving Private Ryan to win that I’d care to see a second time?
    I think that’s why no one watches.
    it's always been long and boring though. but like igotidd said....people get their "celebrity fix" online now; they don't have to wait until the show, or they can view snippets online anywhere they want; they don't have to wait for the Entertainment Tonight Exclusive! the entire following week. 

    I honestly watched it last night, and in previous years, didn't watch it, but looked up the nominees, because with the advent of HBO and streaming, so many nominees aren't in theatres anymore, and for the longest time, being in Canada without access to HBO,I wasn't able to watch a LOT of them, and now I can. My HBO/Crave list is insanely long, no chance I'll ever get to it. 

    and that GI Jane joke was bad. it wasn't in his lines. it was ad libbed, and if the slap hadn't happened, it would have gone down as the groaner of the evening. 
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,652
    I don't watch it either, because I can read who won the next day so why in the hell would I spend hours watching what I can find out in 1 minute? But I will argue that a lot of truly excellent films that were not at all obscure have won since the 90s: The Departed, The King's Speech, Slumdog Millionaire, No Country for Old Men, Million Dollar Baby, LOTR: The Return of the King, Gladiator, A Beautiful Mind, The Shape of Water, Argo, The Hurt Locker, 12 Years a Slave.... And FWIW, while it was kind of obscure before they won, Parasite is also totally worth watching twice.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    Parasite was amazing. 
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