Benaroya Hall, seriously?

mattsl1983

Damiens, I can see your point. If someone wants to looks at it as art, then by all means value it at whatever price you think it is worth. To me the art is what is pressed onto the vinyl. I have a hard time considering when it comes to music, that the format is the real art. It is pressed vinyl by a machine inside a cardboard box that has some print on it, to me anyways. Thank you for actually having a real reply to this post and expressing your opinion about the record. I guess this is the kind of replies I was expecting to get. Nice input.

I do agree with experience of opening and spinning records. It is a format that offers almost a ritualistic experience that no other format can offer. But to say the price of the experience for someone in the last few years market to have that experience at around 1k to me is a little over the top. I just fail to see it being this valuable. But to each their own right?

RoleModelsinBlood31

Just curious, what other vinyl box sets out there or lp's are going for 1000 G's? I know at the last record convention I was at here in Austin tx I saw Sinatra albums for around that price.

It seems completely absurd to me... If I couldn't find another medium to listen to the show and it was ONLY available in vinyl I would understand..... But I downloaded it for $0. Unless I'm loaded I'll never think it's worthwhile. Damn, put the 1000 into something you really need.

Edited because I can't spell shit

MedozK

pdalowsky said:

Strange thread

The market price is high because there's demand. If it was purely hype based it wouldn't have lasted this long.

I agree. Supply and Demand dictate price of most all goods.

MedozK

At least with the Benaroya Hall you get 4 LPs for $1000

With this one you just 4 songs for $1000

2-feign-reluctance

Liquid vinyl 45s with fish and a years supply of fish food. You so crazy Jack White!

MedozK

2-feign-reluctance said:

Liquid vinyl 45s with fish and a years supply of fish food. You so crazy Jack White!

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mattsl1983

Is that really how much the TMR triple decker is going for? Has anyone actually bought/sold it at that price?

MedozK

mattsl1983 said:

Is that really how much the TMR triple decker is going for? Has anyone actually bought/sold it at that price?

Depending on your luck between $600 and $1000. I have seen quite a few sell for $750

Dr. Delight

Who said anything about this going for 2k?

MedozK

Dr. Delight said:

Who said anything about this going for 2k?

Someone was selling #10/2000 for $2000

Dr. Delight

MedozK said:

Dr. Delight said:

Who said anything about this going for 2k?

Someone was selling #10/2000 for $2000

Did it actually sell for that price though?

MedozK

Dr. Delight said:

MedozK said:

Dr. Delight said:

Who said anything about this going for 2k?

Someone was selling #10/2000 for $2000

Did it actually sell for that price though?

Not that I know of.

PJ_Soul

We're all grown ups here and are quite capable of understanding the vinyl/PJ market, and of being able to work out our own motivations and desires when it comes to what we want to own and what we think it's worth to us. Not sure why you feel the need to "school" us here on Lost Dogs, which is full of people who are basically experts on the subject of vinyl and/or Pearl Jam merch collecting, lol. You sound like you think we're all a bunch of stupid hipsters or something, but honestly, i think the collectors here have a much better understanding of what you're talking about than you do, and enjoy the added benefit of not being super arrogantly judgemental.

mattsl1983

And there is PJ soul with a powerful response. So now I'm arrogantly judgmental on top of everything else for my view of a record set. Yea, I have no clue what I'm talking about. This record is most certainly worth a price tag of 1k. I was completely wrong... Great comment. Did you high five yourself after that one? I would have.

Zod

I think it's value comes as both a collectible and vinyl. It's such a rare vinyl in the PJ Catalog and a rare item that demand far outstrips supply. An Original Mint Condition Action Comics would fetch a million dollars. Is it worth a million dollars to everyone? I'd never pay a million dollars for a comic, but I can understand why people who have the means might.

I like collecting always have. Collecting is pretty hard unless you pony up for some stuff. Some stuff is limited and hard to come by. Someone who has one might not part with it for $35 dollars but they might for a grand.

I don't know how to explain it. On this message board many of us collect PJ stuff. Some people collect comics. Some people collect cards. Some people collect old model trains. Some people collect original NES games etc....

Collecting is its own beast and I think people who collect can understand why other people collect (even if they don't collect the same things). People who don't understand it. It makes no more sense to them why someone would pay a grand for a comic book, a rare nes cartridge, or a vinyl.

Thats just me. Everyone's different, but I've always enjoyed collecting stuff. It probably goes all the way back to when I was a kid and people talked about how Wayne Gretzky rookie cards were worth $600. I think was sucked in right there

PJ_Soul

mattsl1983 said:

And there is PJ soul with a powerful response. So now I'm arrogantly judgmental on top of everything else for my view of a record set. Yea, I have no clue what I'm talking about. This record is most certainly worth a price tag of 1k. I was completely wrong... Great comment. Did you high five yourself after that one? I would have.

I'm not trying to prove anything. Just calling it as i see it. What ISN'T arrogantly judgemental about a post that first informs everyone of shit they already know, suggests that they don't really understand what they're doing, and then calls them dumbasses?

Damiens

I think this all basically just boils down to everyone has different likes and tastes and values things differently. My wife thinks I'm insane for buying the Benny, I think spending more than $15 on UGG boots is insane. I don't think the OP is a bad guy, or less of a fan and I would say the majority of the world would probably agree with him that $1000 for a Pearl Jam record is crazy. That being said there's enough of us here that do value this piece highly so we drive the demand for the very limited supply left to purchase and basic economic principals take over from there.

The turn that troubles me more in the thread is the assertion (not from the OP) that there's this conflict between collecting and charity. Why is buying a Benny, or really any collectible scrutinized as a "oh that money could have gone to charity"? If you're typing on this forum on a laptop what makes the grand you spent on the laptop more valid than a grand someone spends on a collectible? I'm sure the answer is something like, "collectibles are frivilous, you don't need them". I argue you don't really NEED a laptop (or a smart phone or a new car, or starbucks every day, etc. etc.). Laptops are great, they do a lot of things but few people literally need them to survive. Where is the "oh they have a laptop, that could have gone to charity"?

To be clear, I'm all for charity, I think it's important to help others and I love a lot of the charitable work I've seen on Lost Dogs. I just don't like the insinuations that collecting somehow is in conflict to being charitable. I think it's very difficult for anyone to credibly make that judgement about others as pretty much EVERYONE spends some of their money and resources on themselves and things that they want and don't need. There's very few individuals that only buy what they need to survive and give the rest to others.

So whether you've bought a boat, a Benny, season tickets, a tuxedo, a snowboard, whatever I'm not going to judge and be like "oh you bought those season tickets? I just watch at home on my TV and give what I would have spent on season tickets to charity because I'm more ethical than you." Find a balance, give when you can give, help others often, and buy some things that make you happy somewhere in there as well.

BinFrog

mattsl1983 said:

And there is PJ soul with a powerful response. So now I'm arrogantly judgmental on top of everything else for my view of a record set. Yea, I have no clue what I'm talking about. This record is most certainly worth a price tag of 1k. I was completely wrong... Great comment. Did you high five yourself after that one? I would have.

Take a deep breath.

You are one person who, for whatever reason, is on a mission to convince us that this collector's item isn't worth what several people have paid for it. You know...market value. Supply and demand. Whatever you want to call it.

So, again, what exactly is your point?

redstuff76

Is their something for sale in this topic?

lotsalemon

redstuff76 said:

Is their something for sale in this topic?

Just an opinion apparently.