This is why gun control will fail

Cosmo

Idris said:

I'm waiting to hear more about the 'Death Ray'...I sure hope no country gets that working properly, but a few countries are working on it (apparently).

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The U.S. has tried the Airborne Laser System (ref. YAL-1), but it was found to be too cumbersome because of the size of the aircraft needed to house it. It was supposed to be used to shoot down incoming ballistic missiles at/near launch sites, but was deemed impractical for real world scenarios. There were talks of aiming the laser at ground targets, but the aircraft (a 747-400) is too easy to shoot down.
We also have already used the Active Denial system in Iraq. That is the HMMWV mounted system that concentrates a heat ray on soft ground targets (people). It is a way to disperse mobs without gunfire. It is similar to the burn you'd get on your hand from holding a magnifying glass over it in the sunlight. Reports from Iraq said the heat was strong enough to melt the plastic parts on cars, such as mirrors and bumpers.
If you see on of these showing up at the door of your anti-government bunker https://sp3.yimg.com/ib/th?id=H.4540344360242299&pid=15.1... put your little AR-15 down and come out with your hands up..

Cosmo

brianlux said:

Interesting and intense stuff there, Cosmo. No to mention a bit unsettling.

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Yeah. It is kind of sad we have all of this great technology... and use it to kill each other.
A lot of this stuff came out of the urban battle fields of Iraq. A very difficult environment to operate. City streets neutralize heavy armor and dense populations of civilians make air strikes too costly in collateral damages. Strategic planners see these types of 'smart munitions' as a way to fight in the tight confines of city streets and alleys and they would have been extremely useful in places like Fallujah in 2004.
You know, necessity is the Mother of Invention... and lots of necessity crops up during times of war. Think about it... we went from the Wright Brothers to the first fighter jets in 40 years... most of the leaps in technological advances during the World War years.
Sad... yes.

brianlux

Cosmo said:

brianlux said:

Interesting and intense stuff there, Cosmo. No to mention a bit unsettling.

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Yeah. It is kind of sad we have all of this great technology... and use it to kill each other.
A lot of this stuff came out of the urban battle fields of Iraq. A very difficult environment to operate. City streets neutralize heavy armor and dense populations of civilians make air strikes too costly in collateral damages. Strategic planners see these types of 'smart munitions' as a way to fight in the tight confines of city streets and alleys and they would have been extremely useful in places like Fallujah in 2004.
You know, necessity is the Mother of Invention... and lots of necessity crops up during times of war. Think about it... we went from the Wright Brothers to the first fighter jets in 40 years... most of the leaps in technological advances during the World War years.
Sad... yes.

It is sad but the idea that some of that technology being used for good in the world is worth hoping for. I don't hold a lot of hope that way but stranger things have happened.

Idris

Cosmo said:

Idris said:

I'm waiting to hear more about the 'Death Ray'...I sure hope no country gets that working properly, but a few countries are working on it (apparently).

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The U.S. has tried the Airborne Laser System (ref. YAL-1), but it was found to be too cumbersome because of the size of the aircraft needed to house it. It was supposed to be used to shoot down incoming ballistic missiles at/near launch sites, but was deemed impractical for real world scenarios. There were talks of aiming the laser at ground targets, but the aircraft (a 747-400) is too easy to shoot down.
We also have already used the Active Denial system in Iraq. That is the HMMWV mounted system that concentrates a heat ray on soft ground targets (people). It is a way to disperse mobs without gunfire. It is similar to the burn you'd get on your hand from holding a magnifying glass over it in the sunlight. Reports from Iraq said the heat was strong enough to melt the plastic parts on cars, such as mirrors and bumpers.
If you see on of these showing up at the door of your anti-government bunker https://sp3.yimg.com/ib/th?id=H.4540344360242299&pid=15.1... put your little AR-15 down and come out with your hands up..

Ya Mr Cosmo interestingly enough I read an article last year(?) saying that DoD was planning to give The Airborne laser System another go, not sure whats happening with that now or if the article was even accurate.

Totally remember the ADS, I think I even made a thread about it. Funny enough (or weirdly enough) some Police Forces are looking into that weapon-!

Cosmo you bring up an interesting point in your reply to Brianlux

"necessity is the Mother of Invention... and lots of necessity crops up during times of war. Think about it... we went from the Wright Brothers to the first fighter jets in 40 years... most of the leaps in technological advances during the World War years.
Sad... yes."
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The Death Ray (concentrated narrow beam of sub-microscopic particles) which originally came from Mr Tesla, came about from his incredible dislike of War. In fact he wanted his Particle Beam to be an 'anti-war' beam. Which to me, shows that great inventions and Ideas can come from a better place in our hearts and not the destructive parts within us.

The Nazis had some amazing things going on, of course their push for technological advancements was overshadowed by their ignorance and their push for death and destruction.

We can truly come up with all these amazing things, but they often come from the greedy parts within ourselves, if our quest for peace and the betterment(?) of the world was as strong as our hunger for war and power, we would be inventing all these amazing things, and not need to kill or destroy in order to create. Our necessities are backwards. No doubt. Sad Indeed.
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and interestingly enough all this talk about beams/light/wavelengths is related to what we've been talking about in the 'paranormal thread', we really don't need to build a machine to charge particles, 'we' are the machines that can charge particles, create our own 'aurora borealis' and all this other incredibly cool stuff...

Now if we can only get the war folks to start doing some yoga and put down the weapons...Buuuut, I'm pretty sure it's not gonna happen anytime soon and our advancements will continue via war.

josevolution

Yeah fuck gun control everybody should just carry and settle any disputes with a duel ....

Cosmo

Idris said:

Ya Mr Cosmo interestingly enough I read an article last year(?) saying that DoD was planning to give The Airborne laser System another go, not sure whats happening with that now or if the article was even accurate.

Totally remember the ADS, I think I even made a thread about it. Funny enough (or weirdly enough) some Police Forces are looking into that weapon-!

Cosmo you bring up an interesting point in your reply to Brianlux

"necessity is the Mother of Invention... and lots of necessity crops up during times of war. Think about it... we went from the Wright Brothers to the first fighter jets in 40 years... most of the leaps in technological advances during the World War years.
Sad... yes."
-

The Death Ray (concentrated narrow beam of sub-microscopic particles) which originally came from Mr Tesla, came about from his incredible dislike of War. In fact he wanted his Particle Beam to be an 'anti-war' beam. Which to me, shows that great inventions and Ideas can come from a better place in our hearts and not the destructive parts within us.

The Nazis had some amazing things going on, of course their push for technological advancements was overshadowed by their ignorance and their push for death and destruction.

We can truly come up with all these amazing things, but they often come from the greedy parts within ourselves, if our quest for peace and the betterment(?) of the world was as strong as our hunger for war and power, we would be inventing all these amazing things, and not need to kill or destroy in order to create. Our necessities are backwards. No doubt. Sad Indeed.
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and interestingly enough all this talk about beams/light/wavelengths is related to what we've been talking about in the 'paranormal thread', we really don't need to build a machine to charge particles, 'we' are the machines that can charge particles, create our own 'aurora borealis' and all this other incredibly cool stuff...

Now if we can only get the war folks to start doing some yoga and put down the weapons...Buuuut, I'm pretty sure it's not gonna happen anytime soon and our advancements will continue via war.

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This story just came in:
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/lockheed-martin-demonstrates-weapons-grade-160000135.html;_ylt=A0SO8yk1DOhSrVcAP0dXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEzcWhsZnZxBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMQRjb2xvA2dxMQR2dGlkA1ZJUDI3MV8x
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So, it looks like airborne laser weapons will be making a comeback.

Idris

Whoa that literally was just in.

"Spectral Beam, sends beams from multiple fiber laser modules, each with a unique wavelength, into a combiner that forms a single, powerful, high quality beam"
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I personally love a good spectral beam.

Cosmo

Yeah... that's the thing with laser beams... you just can't seem to get them to extend to a specified distance... like the light sabres in Star Wars. Shouldn't have those light sabres extended far beyong the 4 feet mark? That would have made it really hard to fight.... without destroying everything around you, right?
Also... did you ever wonder why the light particles of the light sabres clashed with each other? I mean, shouldn't Luke Skywalker and Darth Vader's 'blades' pass right through each other... like having a sword fight with flashlights?
Maybe that Galaxy, far far was really, really far away... like in another universe where the laws of physics are different.

Idris

Quantum mechanics/quantum physics!
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About the light sabres, I've wondered about them for years (as a kid), and figured that if they were to exist in our time, they would have to be modified with something like a small magnetic plate that is able to stay opposed on the top end, (reversed polarity) keeping it opposed, also the laser would have to bounce off the (magnetic) end with some sort of a coating or material that the laser would be unable to cut through. So just (in away) bouncing back.

When the sabre is turned off, poles switch, and it closes.

As far as the sabres passing through one another, we would have to bring mass to the photons so we can have molecules (a strong molecular structure so the lasers don't pass one another like a flashlight, rather interact)
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(I feel like watching Star Wars now)

Cosmo

Idris said:

Quantum mechanics/quantum physics!
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About the light sabres, I've wondered about them for years (as a kid), and figured that if they were to exist in our time, they would have to be modified with something like a small magnetic plate that is able to stay opposed on the top end, (reversed polarity) keeping it opposed, also the laser would have to bounce off the (magnetic) end with some sort of a coating or material that the laser would be unable to cut through. So just (in away) bouncing back.

When the sabre is turned off, poles switch, and it closes.

As far as the sabres passing through one another, we would have to bring mass to the photons so we can have molecules (a strong molecular structure so the lasers don't pass one another like a flashlight, rather interact)
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(I feel like watching Star Wars now)

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Then, if I was Darth Vader, i'd make a suit of armor out of that stuff at the end of the light sabre.

Idris

Ya Darth would have to do that. Makes sense,

unless the coating interferes with the electromagnetic energy used for the force, so it would be a trade off, super armor, or lower grade armor but still force friendly.

brianlux

It's always cool when you say "Ya", Idris. Always cracks me up- don't know why- just like it-- "ya".

Idris

Ya? That's cool,

I like 'yup' also.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

eeyuuup

is also effective. very effective.

brianlux

Idris said:

Ya? That's cool,

I like 'yup' also, yuuuup.

Those are cool too, Idris but "Ya" - that's the bees knees!

Idris

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

eeyuuup

is also effective. very effective.

:-?

brianlux

This particular gun control thread is getting WAY too serious. )

Idris

brianlux said:

This particular gun control thread is getting WAY too serious. )

Ya, and it's like all your fault. [-X

Now excuse me while I go work on my lightsaber blueprints.

Idris

boston.cbslocal.com/2013/09/26/harvard-mit-scientists-create-real-lightsaber/

brianlux

Idris said:

boston.cbslocal.com/2013/09/26/harvard-mit-scientists-create-real-lightsaber/

Fascinating! Thank you, Idris Skywalker.