I don't own a gun either. Know a few that do for sure and have always assumed there are others who own guns and keep it quiet. But I have visited one of these basement arsenals that some people keep and it is one of the creepier rooms I have ever entered.
... When I was little... real little... like 5 or 6, a friend of minehad a room in his house that had a ton of mostly German war stuff. They were from Germany and I guess the dad was in the German Army. Lot of guns and battle flags and uniforms and helmets and field equipment and junk. We used to play army in the fields with some of the helmets... some of them with bullet holes in them. We also snuck out guns we could hide under our sweaters, past his mom... so we could play with them. I understand these types of gun collections because of its historical significance.
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There's really no turning back. there are simply too many guns now (in the USA). Seriously, everyone should have one.
And this mentality is truly disturbing.
Sorry, I was being sarcastic.
Well, kinda being sarcastic...Honestly, I despise guns and swore I'd never own one. But I lived in a dangerous area for awhile and I seriously considered it. In fact, I had a purchase lined up and backed out. Then I decided to move and risk a lot of financial stress for safety instead. I still dont own a gun, but I see how that sarcastic comment is starting to sneak into the thoughts of folks like me who thought they'd never own one. If all your neighbors have one, and all the criminals can get them so easy, will there be a point when every one of us needs one, like it or not?
If it gets to this scenario i'm moving out of this country !
Hey... I have a question... If you are on perscription medications can you be held responsible for your actions if you kill someone... or can you blame it on the drugs?
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
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Hey... I have a question... If you are on perscription medications can you be held responsible for your actions if you kill someone... or can you blame it on the drugs?
"Everybody listen, voices in my head"
Was just listening to some semi-recent Alice. I fucking love Cantrell.
Your question's a good one, Cos. Going by the side-effects (which are so very quickly spat out during the commercials, almost like an auctioneer) of most - all? - prescription drugs, I imagine the potential is there.
More than there, actually; I recall at least two incidents of people on Ambien who committed some horrific acts while under the influence of it. Not sure what, if any, accountability was assigned.
From what I know having worked in mental health for a time is that you are still responsible. If it's a minor crime there is usually leniency if they have been showing improvement, in a group home, have a support system, or actually working at getting better. It's usually a factor when the judge is deciding what to do. At the same time the court system is terrible and teaches kids next to nothing other than they can get away with doing what they want and have their parents pay the fine (sometimes).
I also think that not guilty buy insanity is Rarely used and rarely works.
Wouldn't it be funny if the world ended in 2010, with lots of fire?
the threat of a british invasion is not really very plausible anymore ... try living in a world without having to carry a gun ... you guys just might like it ...
We will never be invaded, that you can bank on, because of private firearm ownership we have a large potential militia.
How is our current political climate any different than being ruled by a King?
i am texting at work AND posting on this forum at the same time. anybody got a problem with that? if so, you had better shoot me... because i am clearly a threat to you...
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
Hey... I have a question... If you are on perscription medications can you be held responsible for your actions if you kill someone... or can you blame it on the drugs?
"Everybody listen, voices in my head" - Was just listening to some semi-recent Alice. I fucking love Cantrell.
Your question's a good one, Cos. Going by the side-effects (which are so very quickly spat out during the commercials, almost like an auctioneer) of most - all? - prescription drugs, I imagine the potential is there.
More than there, actually; I recall at least two incidents of people on Ambien who committed some horrific acts while under the influence of it. Not sure what, if any, accountability was assigned.
... I got to wondering this from actually paying attention to those drug commercials. Many of the sales pitches are aimed at older people because... let's face the facts, people age. Your mind may initially be intact as the years pile on, but, the body goes through some changes... everyone agrees on this, right? At some point, we lose the physical abilities we possessed in our 20s through 50s. The head tells us to aply the brakes and steer left, but the body may not respond like it used to. At some day, we should surrender our car keys in order to remain alive and to avoid injuring or killing others. When you add perscription drugs into the mix... all bets are off. Now, you are placing the mind at potential risk in order to preserve the body. Many of the commercials disclose that some side effects may include irritability, sudden mood swings, thoughts of suicide along with the scarier things like impotence and genetailial shrivel uppedness. So, in order to get your blood pressure down, control your cholesteral or boost your waning testosterone... you may end up an irritable old man with emotional episodes with thoughts of suicide and depression... probably from your eternally flacid phallic member and your testicles shrinking to the size and density of Ju-Ju-Bees. ... You probably might want to re-think bringing your gun with you to the Chuck E. Cheeses' for you grand daughters's 4th birthday this Saturday.
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
Ever hear of Neuronton Cosmo? It's an anti-seizure med that I have to take for nerve pain. I have a buddy who has taken it as well. The side effects for me is dizziness and the feeling of my head in the fog. His side effects make him violent, something that I would never think would be a side effect to the drug. And he's a really cool, easy going guy. He refuses to take it due to his side effects.
My thinking is that any good lawyer could use the insanity plea as being under the effects of a drug inducing violent tendencies as a side effect, causing someone to act out (with their gun).
anybody wants my life they can try to take it. i know how to take away a handgun. i have had enough self defense training in my life. but it they have a knife, i am running.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Pretty much everyone in my area have guns. I don't. Not going to get into a gun battle. If you want my stuff. Take it.
What if they want your life?
Likely they'll know before I will so I won't have time to get mine and really use it. Criminals want your stuff and if you give it to them you have much better chance if survival than if you had gun and shoot it out.
Unsung, I've been reading through your posts on this thread and others, and I honestly think that you have a persecution fantasy thing going on. It's coming through loud and clear. That's not good.
We will never be invaded, that you can bank on, because of private firearm ownership we have a large potential militia.
How is our current political climate any different than being ruled by a King?
uhhh - you will never be invaded because you guys spend all your tax dollars on bombs and fighter planes and weapons of mass destruction ...
if you live in a society where a gun is your only means of making you feel safe - you live in a shitty place period. why is it so many other places in this world can live in relative peace without the prevalence of firearms?
uhhh - you will never be invaded because you guys spend all your tax dollars on bombs and fighter planes and weapons of mass destruction ...
if you live in a society where a gun is your only means of making you feel safe - you live in a shitty place period. why is it so many other places in this world can live in relative peace without the prevalence of firearms?
... We will never be invaded because of 4 things... Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines and the fierce firepower they wield. Unleash them from political rules of engagement and you are looking at a fearsome defense. Foriegn nations understand this... they don't give a shit about some Yahoo with a Steven Segal self-image hold up in his apartment, thinking he can hold off one of their tanks with his small arms fire. They know their attack plans have already been figured our by our spynet system and they would have to face a fully prepared One Marine Expeditionary Force and would probably never make land fall. ... Aliens with technology that can traverse the vastness of space/time... that's a different story. If the Military can't stop them... Joe Gunnowner ain't going to, either.
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I've skimmed thru most of the posts, but does anyone seriously think this guy shouldn't spend 20+ years in prison? What a fucking ridiculous reason to shoot somebody.
I've skimmed thru most of the posts, but does anyone seriously think this guy shouldn't spend 20+ years in prison? What a fucking ridiculous reason to shoot somebody.
... We all agree that this guy should be kept out of society. We just have differing opinions on how to prevent these types of events from happening again... or not.
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
I've skimmed thru most of the posts, but does anyone seriously think this guy shouldn't spend 20+ years in prison? What a fucking ridiculous reason to shoot somebody.
See...
to me... 20+ years... big whoop.
The guy is dead- he wasn't simply injured. The result of this guy's response to the minor confrontation has robbed the life of a man- he's not coming back- it's over.
I read on this message board all the time how people say, "We have devalued human life." Well, part in parcel, goes the assertion that when we mete out, oh, say 10-20 years for some idiot that snuffed the life out of some guy... we have placed a price on human life. And in my books... it's waaaaay too cheap.
Punishment needs to fit the crime. This case shouldn't be a death penalty case (although I support the death penalty in certain situations), but it should mean life in prison. No parole. Get your ass behind bars and serve your time you ridiculous example of a human being.
The guy is dead- he wasn't simply injured. The result of this guy's response to the minor confrontation has robbed the life of a man- he's not coming back- it's over.
I read on this message board all the time how people say, "We have devalued human life." Well, part in parcel, goes the assertion that when we mete out, oh, say 10-20 years for some idiot that snuffed the life out of some guy... we have placed a price on human life. And in my books... it's waaaaay too cheap.
Punishment needs to fit the crime. This case shouldn't be a death penalty case (although I support the death penalty in certain situations), but it should mean life in prison. No parole. Get your ass behind bars and serve your time you ridiculous example of a human being.
... When you watch FOX News... you become a Tea Party Member. When you become a Tea Party Member... you become scared. When you become scared... you buy a gun. When you buy a gun... you feel powerful. When you feel powerful... you think you should enforce the rules. When you think you should enforce the rules... you shoot a man for texting in a movie theater. When you shoot a man for texting in a movie theater... you go to prison. When you go to prison... you end up gargling an inmate's large, dirty genetailia. Don't end up gargling an inmate's large, dirty genetailia. Don't watch FOX News.
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
The guy is dead- he wasn't simply injured. The result of this guy's response to the minor confrontation has robbed the life of a man- he's not coming back- it's over.
I read on this message board all the time how people say, "We have devalued human life." Well, part in parcel, goes the assertion that when we mete out, oh, say 10-20 years for some idiot that snuffed the life out of some guy... we have placed a price on human life. And in my books... it's waaaaay too cheap.
Punishment needs to fit the crime. This case shouldn't be a death penalty case (although I support the death penalty in certain situations), but it should mean life in prison. No parole. Get your ass behind bars and serve your time you ridiculous example of a human being.
... When you watch FOX News... you become a Tea Party Member. When you become a Tea Party Member... you become scared. When you become scared... you buy a gun. When you buy a gun... you feel powerful. When you feel powerful... you think you should enforce the rules. When you think you should enforce the rules... you shoot a man for texting in a movie theater. When you shoot a man for texting in a movie theater... you go to prison. When you go to prison... you end up gargling an inmate's large, dirty genetailia. Don't end up gargling an inmate's large, dirty genetailia. Don't watch FOX News.
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~Carter~
You can spend your time alone, redigesting past regrets, oh
or you can come to terms and realize
you're the only one who can't forgive yourself, oh
makes much more sense to live in the present tense - Present Tense
I've skimmed thru most of the posts, but does anyone seriously think this guy shouldn't spend 20+ years in prison? What a fucking ridiculous reason to shoot somebody.
really? this cop did us a a freakin service!! he protected himself AND the entire theater from a man armed with a cell phone. he is a hero!!!
:rolls eyes"
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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When I was little... real little... like 5 or 6, a friend of minehad a room in his house that had a ton of mostly German war stuff. They were from Germany and I guess the dad was in the German Army. Lot of guns and battle flags and uniforms and helmets and field equipment and junk. We used to play army in the fields with some of the helmets... some of them with bullet holes in them. We also snuck out guns we could hide under our sweaters, past his mom... so we could play with them.
I understand these types of gun collections because of its historical significance.
Hail, Hail!!!
If you are on perscription medications can you be held responsible for your actions if you kill someone... or can you blame it on the drugs?
Hail, Hail!!!
Was just listening to some semi-recent Alice. I fucking love Cantrell.
Your question's a good one, Cos. Going by the side-effects (which are so very quickly spat out during the commercials, almost like an auctioneer) of most - all? - prescription drugs, I imagine the potential is there.
More than there, actually; I recall at least two incidents of people on Ambien who committed some horrific acts while under the influence of it. Not sure what, if any, accountability was assigned.
I also think that not guilty buy insanity is Rarely used and rarely works.
What if they want your life?
We will never be invaded, that you can bank on, because of private firearm ownership we have a large potential militia.
How is our current political climate any different than being ruled by a King?
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
I got to wondering this from actually paying attention to those drug commercials. Many of the sales pitches are aimed at older people because... let's face the facts, people age. Your mind may initially be intact as the years pile on, but, the body goes through some changes... everyone agrees on this, right? At some point, we lose the physical abilities we possessed in our 20s through 50s. The head tells us to aply the brakes and steer left, but the body may not respond like it used to. At some day, we should surrender our car keys in order to remain alive and to avoid injuring or killing others.
When you add perscription drugs into the mix... all bets are off. Now, you are placing the mind at potential risk in order to preserve the body. Many of the commercials disclose that some side effects may include irritability, sudden mood swings, thoughts of suicide along with the scarier things like impotence and genetailial shrivel uppedness.
So, in order to get your blood pressure down, control your cholesteral or boost your waning testosterone... you may end up an irritable old man with emotional episodes with thoughts of suicide and depression... probably from your eternally flacid phallic member and your testicles shrinking to the size and density of Ju-Ju-Bees.
...
You probably might want to re-think bringing your gun with you to the Chuck E. Cheeses' for you grand daughters's 4th birthday this Saturday.
Hail, Hail!!!
My thinking is that any good lawyer could use the insanity plea as being under the effects of a drug inducing violent tendencies as a side effect, causing someone to act out (with their gun).
If you wan't my life that bad you can take it i'm not ever going to have a gun fight ....
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Well I don't have a death wish so I'm going down fighting.
So what if they wanted the life of your child? Wouldn't you do everything to stop them?
The REAL question is , WHAT IF you were so fucking scared you just stayed home instead of KILLING another movie goer? WHAT IF THEN?
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
uhhh - you will never be invaded because you guys spend all your tax dollars on bombs and fighter planes and weapons of mass destruction ...
if you live in a society where a gun is your only means of making you feel safe - you live in a shitty place period. why is it so many other places in this world can live in relative peace without the prevalence of firearms?
We will never be invaded because of 4 things... Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines and the fierce firepower they wield. Unleash them from political rules of engagement and you are looking at a fearsome defense. Foriegn nations understand this... they don't give a shit about some Yahoo with a Steven Segal self-image hold up in his apartment, thinking he can hold off one of their tanks with his small arms fire. They know their attack plans have already been figured our by our spynet system and they would have to face a fully prepared One Marine Expeditionary Force and would probably never make land fall.
...
Aliens with technology that can traverse the vastness of space/time... that's a different story. If the Military can't stop them... Joe Gunnowner ain't going to, either.
Hail, Hail!!!
We all agree that this guy should be kept out of society.
We just have differing opinions on how to prevent these types of events from happening again... or not.
Hail, Hail!!!
to me... 20+ years... big whoop.
The guy is dead- he wasn't simply injured. The result of this guy's response to the minor confrontation has robbed the life of a man- he's not coming back- it's over.
I read on this message board all the time how people say, "We have devalued human life." Well, part in parcel, goes the assertion that when we mete out, oh, say 10-20 years for some idiot that snuffed the life out of some guy... we have placed a price on human life. And in my books... it's waaaaay too cheap.
Punishment needs to fit the crime. This case shouldn't be a death penalty case (although I support the death penalty in certain situations), but it should mean life in prison. No parole. Get your ass behind bars and serve your time you ridiculous example of a human being.
When you watch FOX News... you become a Tea Party Member.
When you become a Tea Party Member... you become scared.
When you become scared... you buy a gun.
When you buy a gun... you feel powerful.
When you feel powerful... you think you should enforce the rules.
When you think you should enforce the rules... you shoot a man for texting in a movie theater.
When you shoot a man for texting in a movie theater... you go to prison.
When you go to prison... you end up gargling an inmate's large, dirty genetailia.
Don't end up gargling an inmate's large, dirty genetailia.
Don't watch FOX News.
Hail, Hail!!!
=D>
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
^:)^ =D>
You can spend your time alone, redigesting past regrets, oh
or you can come to terms and realize
you're the only one who can't forgive yourself, oh
makes much more sense to live in the present tense - Present Tense
:rolls eyes"
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."