Heroic Armed Citizen Stops Movie Texting With Gun, Murder

This is terrible...

http://wonkette.com/539065/heroic-armed-citizen-stops-movie-texting-with-gun-murder



JANUARY 14, 2014

PLEASE USE A SILENCER DURING THE FILM 9:39 AM JANUARY 14, 2014

HEROIC ARMED CITIZEN STOPS MOVIE TEXTING WITH GUN, MURDER

by DOKTOR ZOOM

Curtis Reeves, a Responsible Gun Owner in Wesley Chapel, Florida, was ready to defend himself when he went to a matinee showing of “Lone Survivor” Monday — ignoring the Grove 16 Theaters’ ban on carrying weapons in the auditorium, no doubt because he knew, as do all Responsible Gun Owners, that mass killers target Gun-Free Zones specifically because they know they won’t face an armed citizen who can stop them. Or maybe because as a retired Tampa Police captain, Reeves just felt better carrying a gun. And so, when he got into an argument with Chad Oulson over Oulson’s texting during the previews, Reeves was ready for action, and after the argument escalated and Oulson threw popcorn at him, Reeves pulled his gun and shot Oulson dead. Oulson’s wife Nicole was wounded when she raised her hand in front of her husband; the round went through her hand and killed him. Just before Reeves shot him, Oulson reportedly said that he was texting his 3-year-old daughter.

Isn’t the Second Amendment a wonderful thing?

After shooting Oulson, Reeves sat down and put his handgun on his lap; an off-duty Sumter County deputy sheriff who was also attending the movie got up and took the gun from Reeves, who was arrested and charged with second-degree murder. Two nurses who were in the audience attempted to give Oulson CPR, but he was pronounced dead at a hospital.

Pasco Sheriff Chris Nocco said that there appeared to be no justification for the shooting under Florida’s “stand your ground” law, which we suppose is something.

CNN reports that after retiring from the Tampa PD in 1993, Reeves also worked as director of security at the Busch Gardens amusement park until 2005, which you might think would have helped him learn something about dealing nonlethally with rude people in an entertainment venue.

Since Oulson was a white, middle-class father who was not wearing a hoodie, we’re not quite sure how the gun-fondling crowd will blame him for his own death; a few commenters at Glenn Beck’s The Blaze have determined that Oulson’s disrespectful behavior was the cause of his death; a few others declared Oulson a thug and said that it’s high time to clean out the animals and Obama voters. All that remains is for Alex Jones to announce that the entire thing was a false flag operation calculated to allow Obama to seize everyone’s guns.

At the risk of being labeled enemies of sacred Constitutional rights, Yr Wonkette would just like to review some rules regarding the use of deadly force: Despite the 2nd Amendment, you do not actually have the right to shoot anyone you are angry at, even during the previews for a movie. No, not even during the feature itself. It is still murder. No, really, it is still murder, even if someone behind you keeps repeating every laugh line or asking “who’s that guy? Is that the guy she saw earlier?” You are actually not allowed to shoot them. It is not even legal to shoot people if they are being obnoxious assholes, even when you are right and they are wrong and you have a gun. We hope this has been a useful review, although we have a sneaking suspicion that the people who really need to know these things don’t read Wonkette.


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  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,171
    edited January 2014
    But I thought when everyone was armed we were going to be safer?

    This is a disgusting incident.
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  • a5pja5pj Posts: 3,896
    happens all the time every single day. Even the news stops reporting this stuff because it's so common. But should it be harder to get a drivers license than a gun? Of course.
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    Maybe he saw the movie God Bless America recently ...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07koWDo7-P0
  • when is wayne lapierre going to show up for an nra rally?
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    It's too bad that all of the movie goers weren't armed. That way, a full blown firefight could have broken out and everybody would have been safe.
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  • Earlier in the week, he was online and admonishing 'idiots for punishing law abiding citizens' when they suggested measures of gun reform.

    Everybody is law abiding... right up to the point when they snap!
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  • Thirty Bills UnpaidThirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    edited January 2014
    And how do you start a thread? I was going to kick in the most recent elementary school shooting story in New Mexico:

    http://news.ca.msn.com/top-stories/12-year-old-in-custody-after-2-students-shot-at-new-mexico-middle-school

    Inmates running the asylum.

    Seriously.

    * Edit: Searching through the haze... I see the 'New Discussion' tab. I figured it out. I know how to start a new thread.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,593
    " I feared for my life"


    So throwing popcorn is a deadly weapon and requires deadly force to stop it?
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  • IdrisIdris Posts: 2,317
    edited January 2014
    Cosmo said:

    It's too bad that all of the movie goers weren't armed. That way, a full blown firefight could have broken out and everybody would have been safe.

    A funny and quite powerful remark, Mr Cosmo.

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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,038
    I will not admit to laughing at Jason P's post.
    I will not admit to laughing at Jason P's post.
    I will not admit to laughing at Jason P's post.

    Ah man, ok, I have to admit it- shooting someone dead for texting might be an exception to my anti-gun opinions.
    Which is why I don't go to movies anymore.


    :-/ Does he mean because he might shoot someone or because he hates texting in movies?
    [-( Don't ask he's in one of those weird moods again.

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  • This is why more guns is not the answer. I realize he was a former policeman or whatever, but regardless, anyone with a gun is capable of doing dumb shit with it when their emotions get the best of them.

    Taking away guns isn't the answer either. A discussion is needed but many Americans are too stubborn and closed-minded to even discuss the future of guns in America.
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    edited January 2014

    This is why more guns is not the answer. I realize he was a former policeman or whatever, but regardless, anyone with a gun is capable of doing dumb shit with it when their emotions get the best of them.

    Taking away guns isn't the answer either. A discussion is needed but many Americans are too stubborn and closed-minded to even discuss the future of guns in America.

    ...
    That has always been my stance. I believe in the Constitution and the 2nd Amendment and Supreme Court rulings in 2nd Amendment cases. I don't think it is Constitutional to take away all guns, which seems to be the only fear stirring arguement point for the NRA based side. I just want common sense gun laws that doesn't allow just anyone to obtain whatever fire power exists.
    And this story clearly illustrates the point... that a reasonable discussion has to take place. A law-abiding, retired police Captain and responsible gun owner who may have had a legal permit to carry a conceled weapon... commits the murder of a 47 year old man who was texting the baby sitter of his 3 year old daughter from a movie theater, during the upcoming movie previews. A good guy with a gun... saved the theater goers from a bad guy with a cell phone.
    This is not a 'Stand Your Ground' case... it is second degree, aggravated murder that should carry a life sentence.

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  • g under pg under p Posts: 18,196
    Cosmo said:

    This is why more guns is not the answer. I realize he was a former policeman or whatever, but regardless, anyone with a gun is capable of doing dumb shit with it when their emotions get the best of them.

    Taking away guns isn't the answer either. A discussion is needed but many Americans are too stubborn and closed-minded to even discuss the future of guns in America.

    ...
    That has always been my stance. I believe in the Constitution and the 2nd Amendment and Supreme Court rulings in 2nd Amendment cases. I don't think it is Constitutional to take away all guns, which seems to be the only fear stirring arguement point for the NRA based side. I just want common sense gun laws that doesn't allow just anyone to obtain whatever fire power exists.
    And this story clearly illustrates the point... that a reasonable discussion has to take place. A law-abiding, retired police Captain and responsible gun owner who may have had a legal permit to carry a conceled weapon... commits the murder of a 47 year old man who was texting the baby sitter of his 3 year old daughter from a movie theater, during the upcoming movie previews. A good guy with a gun... saved the theater goers from a bad guy with a cell phone.
    This is not a 'Stand Your Ground' case... it is second degree, aggravated murder that should carry a life sentence.

    All done with the thought he shot in self defense, don't be surprised if he's not acquitted.....just wait and see.

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  • a5pja5pj Posts: 3,896



    All done with the thought he shot in self defense, don't be surprised if he's not acquitted.....just wait and see.

    Peace



    The legal system here is another discussion (and joke most of the time).

    I Agree with what you said Cosmo.
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  • is he gonna claim "stand your ground"? it's florida right? that bullshit defense might just get this guy off.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • plus, he is a retired cop. "feared for my life"??? must have been a terribly weak cop.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • and this jerkoff ex cop must have taunted the man before he killed him because the wife had enough time to raise her hands in front of the shot. ridiculous. This is supposed to be one of the guys we trust with guns, right?
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  • a5pja5pj Posts: 3,896
    This is bad for all the good guy with a gun arguments... Looks like this guy was trained, everything. Who knows what exactly happened though.
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  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,171
    The NRA will argue this is why we need more guns, that all should be armed, because you never know who around you is a lunatic with a gun.
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  • The NRA isnt pushing for more guns or to arm everyone. They just simply want to be able to keep the right to own a gun. Incidents like this happen, just like drunk drivers kill people. I just can't blame the gun. I have to hold the person accountable for their actions. Let's not sensationalize the story and make it about the gun. Let's analyze how and why the person did what they did, try and understand it and learn from it. We need to take a real look, use common sense and have an actual real debate about guns. I'm not a big gun person, but I do think if someone wants one, there should be background checks, and there needs to be some sort of annual or periodic psych test. And we all have to be honest with ourself and understand that sometimes people freak out and do dumb shit. It's happened ever since the dawning of man. They only way to prevent that would be some sort of full government big brother watching everything we do. I don't think anyone wants that.
  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    Liked Jason's clip as well. One of my all time favorite movies. Goldwaiht (sp?) has some great movies out if you haven't yet checked them out.

    This wasn't about throwing popcorn o..it was about two machismo males dueling it out. One was 42 Navy tough guy and with his woman...other an ex Police officer that used to be the tough guy and when he felt he was threatened...verbally and having popcorn thrown at him, he resorted to only means he felt available...he shot the asshole. Justifited..of course not.

    Sure old dude was tired of being disrespected and tired of all the inconsiderate assholes in the world.
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225

    The NRA isnt pushing for more guns or to arm everyone. They just simply want to be able to keep the right to own a gun. Incidents like this happen, just like drunk drivers kill people. I just can't blame the gun. I have to hold the person accountable for their actions. Let's not sensationalize the story and make it about the gun. Let's analyze how and why the person did what they did, try and understand it and learn from it. We need to take a real look, use common sense and have an actual real debate about guns. I'm not a big gun person, but I do think if someone wants one, there should be background checks, and there needs to be some sort of annual or periodic psych test. And we all have to be honest with ourself and understand that sometimes people freak out and do dumb shit. It's happened ever since the dawning of man. They only way to prevent that would be some sort of full government big brother watching everything we do. I don't think anyone wants that.

    ...
    Thank you. A Common Sense discussion... what a novel idea.
    Like i said, I don't think everyone should own a gun. I believe there are a LOT of Americans out there that really should not be armed. I'm not saying All Americans shouldn't be able to apply for gun ownership... i just think there are way too many Americans that are not capable of gun ownership.
    Let's weed those ones out... as a start. Nut cases, anger management types, road ragers, mentally ill, psychos... let's start with trying to keep them from getting an AR-15.
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  • a5pja5pj Posts: 3,896

    ...
    Thank you. A Common Sense discussion... what a novel idea.
    Like i said, I don't think everyone should own a gun. I believe there are a LOT of Americans out there that really should not be armed. I'm not saying All Americans shouldn't be able to apply for gun ownership... i just think there are way too many Americans that are not capable of gun ownership.
    Let's weed those ones out... as a start. Nut cases, anger management types, road ragers, mentally ill, psychos... let's start with trying to keep them from getting an AR-15.

    I think giving mental health some power would be a start, if you have a diagnosis you should have to get the ok from your Doctor. before you can get a gun. But mental health is always the 1st thing to get their funding cut.

    The term nut case can be taken a little negatively, lots of people have mental health problems and there are many different shades of them, minor and severe.
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    a5pj said:

    I think giving mental health some power would be a start, if you have a diagnosis you should have to get the ok from your Doctor. before you can get a gun. But mental health is always the 1st thing to get their funding cut.

    The term nut case can be taken a little negatively, lots of people have mental health problems and there are many different shades of them, minor and severe.

    ...
    By 'Nut case', in the terms of those people who think there is going to be a Zombie Apocalypse, so they stockpile an arsenal to fend them off. Or the people who think they can hold off the U.S. military with a storage locker of AR-15s and 10,000 rounds of ammo. Don't those people know that Zombies don't exist and that the U.S. military has F-16s armed with 500lb bombs?
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  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    This story has as much to do with a gun than it does with him being a cop. Lock him up, give him the death penalty, do whatever. He deserves nothing less.
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    unsung said:

    This story has as much to do with a gun than it does with him being a cop. Lock him up, give him the death penalty, do whatever. He deserves nothing less.

    ...
    No. It does prove that the 'Good Guy With a Gun Will Keep Us Safe' arguement does not always apply. It also illustrates how a 'Responsible gun owner with a spotless record' can easily become a murderer.
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  • a5pja5pj Posts: 3,896


    ...
    By 'Nut case', in the terms of those people who think there is going to be a Zombie Apocalypse, so they stockpile an arsenal to fend them off. Or the people who think they can hold off the U.S. military with a storage locker of AR-15s and 10,000 rounds of ammo. Don't those people know that Zombies don't exist and that the U.S. military has F-16s armed with 500lb bombs?

    Agreed, many of them need mental health treatment and either can't afford it, or can voluntarily sign themselves out of treatment.
    I've seen many a kid with severe needs turn 18 sign themselves out, stop taking their meds, and out they go into the community.

    Oh and you forgot drones!
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  • Cosmo said:

    unsung said:

    This story has as much to do with a gun than it does with him being a cop. Lock him up, give him the death penalty, do whatever. He deserves nothing less.

    ...
    No. It does prove that the 'Good Guy With a Gun Will Keep Us Safe' arguement does not always apply. It also illustrates how a 'Responsible gun owner with a spotless record' can easily become a murderer.
    Bingo.

    Everybody is law-abiding until they are no longer law-abiding.

    As I said earlier- tongue in cheek- that retired cop almost assuredly had debated gun control in the past with 'liberals' stating, "Don't punish the law abiding citizens. Get the criminals!"
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  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    edited January 2014
    a5pj said:


    ...
    Like i said, I don't think everyone should own a gun.

    I think it's the people who WANT to own guns that are the ones that probably shouldn't have them.
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  • Taking away guns isn't the answer either. A discussion is needed but many Americans are too stubborn and closed-minded to even discuss the future of guns in America.

    Absolutely, this. No longer can the issue of guns be a two-sided equation, when both sides are wrong.
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