On what basis would you have tossed in Wrigley as one of the options for lowest ranked? I've read threads where people claim it was "historic" (which may or may not be accurate, but is probably closer to the truth than grouping it as a "lowest ranked" on a tour). It just can't see how someone would, on the one hand, say "this was one of the worst from a tour," while on the other hand, several others say it was "historic," "epic," etc.
Just seems odd. Were you at Wrigley?
nope just listened to the audience bootleg, I never said worst, those are your words, but compared to other shows I have heard it is the lowest ranked, I listen to Pearl Jam all the time, the band just set bar incredibly high on the 2013 tour
Well I said "worst" because saying a show is a "lowest ranked" show implies that there are "highest ranked" shows. Ranking of course is the process of putting things on a continuum of "highest and lowest," "first and last," "best and worst" etc. Your thread title suggests that Wrigley is a low ranked show among fans, and I'm suggesting that it's actually not, given that in other threads, people are calling it "historic," "epic," etc. My question was how did you come up with it being possibly one of the worst when several other people are calling it the complete opposite.
It's sort of like saying: who was the worst president of the 1800s, John Adams or Abraham Lincoln? You might have hated one of the two, but the fact remains a lot of people disagree with the set up of the question.
A fairer way to frame a question about where Wrigley ranks would've been "True or False: Wrigley was one of the 'lowest ranked' shows of 2013."
You're getting a lot of flak in this thread, not because of people trying to bring you down, "censor" you, be heartless, be unkind etc. It's because you concluded that it's a low-ranked show based on an audience bootleg and then set up the question in a way that didn't allow for dissent from that premise. Naturally, people challenged you in the comments.
Note: this isn't an attempt to censor, so please don't respond with inspirational-quote images.
1998-06-30 Minneapolis
2003-06-16 St. Paul
2006-06-26 St. Paul
2007-08-05 Chicago
2009-08-23 Chicago
2009-08-28 San Francisco
2010-05-01 NOLA (Jazz Fest)
2011-07-02 EV Minneapolis
2011-09-03 PJ20
2011-09-04 PJ20
2011-09-17 Winnipeg
2012-06-26 Amsterdam
2012-06-27 Amsterdam
2013-07-19 Wrigley
2013-11-21 San Diego
2013-11-23 Los Angeles
2013-11-24 Los Angeles
2014-07-08 Leeds, UK
2014-07-11 Milton Keynes, UK
2014-10-09 Lincoln
2014-10-19 St. Paul
2014-10-20 Milwaukee
2016-08-20 Wrigley 1
2016-08-22 Wrigley 2 2018-06-18 London 1 2018-08-18 Wrigley 1 2018-08-20 Wrigley 2 2022-09-16 Nashville 2023-08-31 St. Paul 2023-09-02 St. Paul 2023-09-05 Chicago 1
no quotes, but I do appreciate intelligent well thought out response, and if someone wants to name me a lower ranked show I iwll listen to both shows and give my opinion, but these are only my opinions, which don't always turn out to be right
Hank, you have a full blown personality disorder. You need assistance, man.
That's not a very cool or fair thing to say. Hank's a good guy, and how is anything in this thread indicative of a personality disorder?? If going off in a message board thread = personality disorder, everyone is fucked!
PS BBH - Wrigley was beyond cool, and weird too, which made it even better.
Post edited by PJ_Soul on
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Hank, you have a full blown personality disorder. You need assistance, man.
That's not a very cool or fair thing to say. Hank's a good guy, and how is anything in this thread indicative of a personality disorder?? If going off in a message board thread = personality disorder, everyone is fucked!
Comments
It's sort of like saying: who was the worst president of the 1800s, John Adams or Abraham Lincoln? You might have hated one of the two, but the fact remains a lot of people disagree with the set up of the question.
A fairer way to frame a question about where Wrigley ranks would've been "True or False: Wrigley was one of the 'lowest ranked' shows of 2013."
You're getting a lot of flak in this thread, not because of people trying to bring you down, "censor" you, be heartless, be unkind etc. It's because you concluded that it's a low-ranked show based on an audience bootleg and then set up the question in a way that didn't allow for dissent from that premise. Naturally, people challenged you in the comments.
Note: this isn't an attempt to censor, so please don't respond with inspirational-quote images.
2003-06-16 St. Paul
2006-06-26 St. Paul
2007-08-05 Chicago
2009-08-23 Chicago
2009-08-28 San Francisco
2010-05-01 NOLA (Jazz Fest)
2011-07-02 EV Minneapolis
2011-09-03 PJ20
2011-09-04 PJ20
2011-09-17 Winnipeg
2012-06-26 Amsterdam
2012-06-27 Amsterdam
2013-07-19 Wrigley
2013-11-21 San Diego
2013-11-23 Los Angeles
2013-11-24 Los Angeles
2014-07-08 Leeds, UK
2014-07-11 Milton Keynes, UK
2014-10-09 Lincoln
2014-10-19 St. Paul
2014-10-20 Milwaukee
2016-08-20 Wrigley 1
2016-08-22 Wrigley 2
2018-06-18 London 1
2018-08-18 Wrigley 1
2018-08-20 Wrigley 2
2022-09-16 Nashville
2023-08-31 St. Paul
2023-09-02 St. Paul
2023-09-05 Chicago 1
PS BBH - Wrigley was beyond cool, and weird too, which made it even better.