Why did 10c number the pop-up Bennys separately?

dancinacrossthewater
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...if they are still from the original pressing of 2000?
This is an example of how it's very difficult not to acknowledge that 10c is encouraging a value-based collector's mentality, as opposed to a pure collector mentality. Giving the popup Bennys separate numbering only serves to further highlight the rarity and value of the original distribution. Given that all Bennys are from the same run of 2000, this is a needless distinction to my mind.
I'm not here to trash the 10c. They've been excellent and accommodating in many other areas. But this kind of thing drives up the secondary market..
This is an example of how it's very difficult not to acknowledge that 10c is encouraging a value-based collector's mentality, as opposed to a pure collector mentality. Giving the popup Bennys separate numbering only serves to further highlight the rarity and value of the original distribution. Given that all Bennys are from the same run of 2000, this is a needless distinction to my mind.
I'm not here to trash the 10c. They've been excellent and accommodating in many other areas. But this kind of thing drives up the secondary market..
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I guess if one was bought to play it wouldn't matter, but this shows it was bought only to be flipped if it ends up on ebay..and buyer knows seller only paid $350.Bridge Benefit 1994, San Francisco 1995, San Diego 1995 1 & 2, Missoula 1998, Los Angeles 2000, San Diego 2000, Eddie Vedder/Beck 2/26/2002, Santa Barbara 2003, Irvine 2003, San Diego 2003, Vancouver 2005, Gorge 2005, San Diego 2006, Los Angeles 2006 1 & 2, Santa Barbara 2006, Eddie Vedder 4/10/08, Eddie Vedder 4/12/08, Eddie Vedder 4/15/08, 7/12/2008, SF 8/28/09, LA 9/30/09, LA 10/1/09, LA 10/06/09, LA 10/07/09, San Diego 10/09/09, Eddie Vedder 7/6/2011, Eddie Vedder 7/8/2011, PJ20 9/3/2011, PJ20 9/4/2011, Vancouver 9/25/2011, San Diego 11/21/13, LA 11/24/13, Ohana 9/25/21, Ohana 9/26/21, Ohana 10/1/21, EV 2/17/22, LA Forum 5/6/22, LA Forum 5/7/22, EV 10/1/22, EV 9/30/230
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Copies given to the band, etc
Clearly stated that some were also packaging defects if I read right.www.cluthelee.com0 -
Because more than 2000 were made would be my guess. These were extras probably made for a variety of reasons at the same time as the first run
If the 2000 numbers are all taken what else can they do ?
It's better they are now out there as opposed to sitting in storage0 -
pdalowsky wrote:Because more than 2000 were made would be my guess. These were extras probably made for a variety of reasons at the same time as the first run
If the 2000 numbers are all taken what else can they do ?
It's better they are now out there as opposed to sitting in storage
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I was just looking at one of these that's on ebay that is numbered pop 13. It looks terrible they used a real fat marker to number it. They should leave them as is and not mess with them.Pjdreamer0
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I'm sure they pressed more than the original 2000Cant buy what i want cause its free....0
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juddboz80 wrote:I'm sure they pressed more than the original 2000
I'm sure they did too, making the original run of 2000 more desirable0 -
endless-nameless wrote:juddboz80 wrote:I'm sure they pressed more than the original 2000
I'm sure they did too, making the original run of 2000 more desirable
Or you could have the debate that only 60 were from this event. I would think that if you are a purist then the OG 2000 are the way to go. If you want a benny, then this IS the way to go.
It will be interesting though.
Popcorn please!
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According to Tim, these were part of the bands collection.the band was doing nothing with them and since the original
Benaroya show was for charity, they decided this is the perfect opportunity to sell them and raise more money. They had 56 plus 4 more which are going to be raffled off at some point if they didn't do it yesterday. These are part of the original 20000 -
LeafsJaysCubsRaptorsFan wrote:According to Tim, these were part of the bands collection.the band was doing nothing with them and since the original
Benaroya show was for charity, they decided this is the perfect opportunity to sell them and raise more money. They had 56 plus 4 more which are going to be raffled off at some point if they didn't do it yesterday. These are part of the original 2000
There you go. That's what I read in another thread.www.cluthelee.com0 -
2-feign-reluctance wrote:LeafsJaysCubsRaptorsFan wrote:According to Tim, these were part of the bands collection.the band was doing nothing with them and since the original
Benaroya show was for charity, they decided this is the perfect opportunity to sell them and raise more money. They had 56 plus 4 more which are going to be raffled off at some point if they didn't do it yesterday. These are part of the original 2000
There you go. That's what I read in another thread.
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LeafsJaysCubsRaptorsFan wrote:According to Tim, these were part of the bands collection.the band was doing nothing with them and since the original
Benaroya show was for charity, they decided this is the perfect opportunity to sell them and raise more money. They had 56 plus 4 more which are going to be raffled off at some point if they didn't do it yesterday. These are part of the original 2000
Ok, but this doesn't address the question. I know they're part of the original 2000 - so why not number them as such?0 -
Why does it matter if its numbered POP X? Seems it would only matter for re-sale value. I'm confused why this is even a discussion seeing it was never issued with intent for others to re-distribute.
Just enjoy it. If i'm missing something let me know. I won't understand the PJ is supporting a secondary market argument so give me something else. Look at backspacer. Seems they made enough for everyone because of previous demand and now they can't sell their stock at 15$. They don't produce enough and then they produce to many.
In summary who cares how its numbered?0 -
dancinacrossthewater wrote:LeafsJaysCubsRaptorsFan wrote:According to Tim, these were part of the bands collection.the band was doing nothing with them and since the original
Benaroya show was for charity, they decided this is the perfect opportunity to sell them and raise more money. They had 56 plus 4 more which are going to be raffled off at some point if they didn't do it yesterday. These are part of the original 2000
Ok, but this doesn't address the question. I know they're part of the original 2000 - so why not number them as such?ATHENS / 30-9-2006, MANCHESTER / 20-6-2012, MANCHESTER / 21-6-2012, AMSTERDAM / 16-6-2014, AMSTERDAM / 17-6-2014, AMSTERDAM / 12-6-2018, AMSTERDAM / 13-6-2018, PRAGUE / 1-7-2018, KRAKOW / 3-7-2018, BERLIN / 5-7-20180 -
En La Clandestinidad Telford, PA by way of Kansas City, MO and Milwaukee, WI, Phoenix, AZ and East Greenbush, NY Posts: 3,694TC282314 wrote:Why does it matter if its numbered POP X? Seems it would only matter for re-sale value. I'm confused why this is even a discussion seeing it was never issued with intent for others to re-distribute.
Just enjoy it. If i'm missing something let me know. I won't understand the PJ is supporting a secondary market argument so give me something else. Look at backspacer. Seems they made enough for everyone because of previous demand and now they can't sell their stock at 15$. They don't produce enough and then they produce to many.
In summary who cares how its numbered?
Seriously?? I just want the record!!! I don't care if it had numbers letters or Eds face in that box. Wish they re-release it in black simple vinyl!Formerly Brew Crew Tix
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Brew Crew Tix wrote:Seriously?? I just want the record!!! I don't care if it had numbers letters or Eds face in that box. Wish they re-release it in black simple vinyl!ATHENS / 30-9-2006, MANCHESTER / 20-6-2012, MANCHESTER / 21-6-2012, AMSTERDAM / 16-6-2014, AMSTERDAM / 17-6-2014, AMSTERDAM / 12-6-2018, AMSTERDAM / 13-6-2018, PRAGUE / 1-7-2018, KRAKOW / 3-7-2018, BERLIN / 5-7-20180
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deftones wrote:Brew Crew Tix wrote:Seriously?? I just want the record!!! I don't care if it had numbers letters or Eds face in that box. Wish they re-release it in black simple vinyl!2003: San Antonio, Houston, Dallas, Seattle; 2005: Monterrey; 2006: Chicago 1 & 2, Grand Rapids, Cleveland, Detroit; 2008: West Palm Beach, Tampa; 2009: Austin, LA 3 & 4, San Diego; 2010: Kansas City, St. Louis, Columbus, Indianapolis; 2011: PJ20 1 & 2; 2012: Missoula; 2013: Dallas, Oklahoma City, Seattle; 2014: Tulsa; 2016: Columbia, New York City 1 & 2; 2018: London, Seattle 1 & 2; 2021: Ohana; 2022: Oklahoma City0
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Better Dan wrote:deftones wrote:Brew Crew Tix wrote:Seriously?? I just want the record!!! I don't care if it had numbers letters or Eds face in that box. Wish they re-release it in black simple vinyl!
Bingo. I simply can't justify spending that much money on a record...no matter how much I want to spin it.I LOVE MUSIC.
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Yes, reissue it already! Make it to order, give the money to charity. Pack it simple, press it in black. We all just want to spin it. Leave the wine coloured thing to the collectors... Make a vinyl lover edition!Please, Pearl Jam, consider a Benaroya Hall vinyl reissue! http://community.pearljam.com/discussion/148993/please-pearl-jam-consider-a-vinyl-benaroya-hall-re-issue0
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Leezestarr313 wrote:Yes, reissue it already! Make it to order, give the money to charity. Pack it simple, press it in black. We all just want to spin it. Leave the wine coloured thing to the collectors... Make a vinyl lover edition!
That would be a great way to help YouthCare!!!2003: San Antonio, Houston, Dallas, Seattle; 2005: Monterrey; 2006: Chicago 1 & 2, Grand Rapids, Cleveland, Detroit; 2008: West Palm Beach, Tampa; 2009: Austin, LA 3 & 4, San Diego; 2010: Kansas City, St. Louis, Columbus, Indianapolis; 2011: PJ20 1 & 2; 2012: Missoula; 2013: Dallas, Oklahoma City, Seattle; 2014: Tulsa; 2016: Columbia, New York City 1 & 2; 2018: London, Seattle 1 & 2; 2021: Ohana; 2022: Oklahoma City0
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