Prediction: Concert Seating Will Change

cooldaddy

neartodeath wrote:

exactly the point

u2's fan club was a complete disaster because they allowed anyone to join, and people signed up in droves, and later they found out that people were joining just to scalp tickets

if you make it more fair for the new people who just joined, you are opening up the potential to having scalpers abuse the 10c allottment. right now it's the fans who are up front and they bought their tickets at list price

Excellent point.

Milestone

rival9500 wrote:

Yeah seriously. I've been a member since 97 and would be quite pissed to see someone that just joined this year with better seats. Sorry but that's the way it is.

Yeah, I'm sure the band has no interest in allowing younger fans to have some good seats.

I've got a nephew that is 16 and loves PJ. You want him banished to the upper level of the stadium because he was born in 1990?

SoonForgotten2

Milestone wrote:

Yeah, I'm sure the band has no interest in allowing younger fans to have some good seats.

I've got a nephew that is 16 and loves PJ. You want him banished to the upper level of the stadium because he was born in 1990?

That's being overly dramatic. No one is banishing him to the upper level for christ's sake.

pjl44

I have a very low number. That said, whatever the 10C wants to do in the future is cool with me. If nothing else, I've had a real nice run of badass seats (which I'd like to see continue, but, eh....).

The only thing that aggravates me is the newbies trying to change the system. Christ, the 10C has enough to do...especially in the midst of a tour. I'm sure the last thing they need is a flood of e-mails with various abstracts that claim to have discovered the "most fair system."

By the way (as I've said before), careful what you wish for. We already learned on this tour that ticket supplies in general for 10C tix are very limited. If you can join tomorrow and automatically have a chance at the front rows, 10C memberships skyrocket which = less of a chance that you get any tickets at all!

DP13

the priority order works perfectly IF this tour is announced all at once.

I have a better number than 90% of people here on the messageboard but I totally see how this policy is not fair to younger fanclub members. If you are 35 and just joined I really have no mercy for ya

But it is kinda crappy for those under 25 and especially under 21.

If you have a great number you will be front row for your "priority" show and prolly about row 7-10 for every single other show you wish to attend. Not such a bad deal and you are still rewarded for being a member for 12 years. You are a great customer, You were there in the begining, You deserve front row... but not for every single show on the tour.

Vedderman23

pjl44 wrote:

The only thing that aggravates me is the newbies trying to change the system. Christ, the 10C has enough to do...especially in the midst of a tour. I'm sure the last thing they need is a flood of e-mails with various abstracts that claim to have discovered the "most fair system."

Exactly. I'm jumping into the thread too late it seems, but it's hard to get through all the pissing and moaning. It seems this starts up every tour year, it started earlier this year, fizzled out, and now its back again. If I repeat something someone else has said, I apologize, but it would be a total clusterf*** for them to go totally random. You will have people joining just for the fact of scalping. If the 10C/band wants some different people up front, I see no problem with randomizing the first 2 rows, not too big of a deal. They do it by seniority for a reason. They know these people won't be trying to sell (at least most of them, there are always a couple assholes.) I have a middle number and am just now getting up to the front after many years of waiting. Why should people who just joined be in front of long time members? That seems to be the million dollar question, and there really is not legitimate answer for it. They shouldn't. I've patiently waited and waited, let the newer members who want it all now do the same.

Some people feel it is OWED to them to have front seats after just joining the club. Remember, we are owed nothing. Hell, some of the people who are complaining probably weren't even in the club when we could only get tickets to ONE show per tour. You were on your own after that.

Keep pissing and moaning, and I'm sure they wouldn't have a problem saying "Fuck 'em, they'll get nothing." Have fun with ticketmaster.

Then we'll see how many people are in the fan club after that!

Reno1979

I love how some of us with low numbers like to act like IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN THIS WAY. I am willing to make a wager.. dinner, a drink, Hell a spare 10c ticket.. That this system changes next major tour. Ed has gone as far as to mention the same people being in the front, and told them to go get laid. This is really only like the second or third tour (and some of those were smaller) where you could get as many as you wanted and they were all based on seniority. I just don't really think at the end of the day, the band wants the front seats to always go to the same people.

AND PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF YOUR HIGHER POWER READ THIS NEXT SENTANCE. Yes, I do think that everyone should get one set of tickets PER YEAR based on their seniority, so as not to "screw" the old folks who signed up in '82 or whatever. I still want my 8th row seat. I however think that after that I should get what I get.

daryl jam

hey i just want an opinion...my 10c # is like 345XXX, with such a high number, do i stand a chance of getting decent 10c seats or am i better off to try my luck at ticketmaster?

Reno1979

I believe mid 300's puts you on the side and as far forward as one sec from stage to as far back as the corner. Probably 5 to 15 rows up. Ticketmaster sucks.

Number 18

I can completely understand all the arguments about rewarding people who have been 10c Members for a long time for their loyalty. It makes sense and I would totally argue that if I had a lower number.

But how does that give any newcomers the chance to be loyal? By sticking around? Please. By the time older members let their membership lapse and the newcomers move up, the band will retire. Making you a newcomer does not make you any less loyal of a fan. There could be a million reasons why you are a newcomer.

I'm just pointing out both sides of the argument. Both of my tickets for the Gorge are GA. I would love the opportunity to get better tickets, but I'm glad to be going to jam out with my buddies to a great band.

SmallTown

daryl jam wrote:

hey i just want an opinion...my 10c # is like 345XXX, with such a high number, do i stand a chance of getting decent 10c seats or am i better off to try my luck at ticketmaster?

313xxx and there's no way you want to deal with ticketbasturd. I've ben anywhere from row 18 at Thunder Bay to row 33 in Chicago. Either way you won't find anything better than what the 10c offers for us.

skyeriverwinter

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JOEJOEJOE

skyeriverwinter wrote:

i think that is the funniest thing i've read in awhile. thanks for the smile!

Glad you recognized the well-natured ribbing!

JSBE

really? another ticket/seating thread? really?

and why am i not surprised to see that spinbrett started this post?

Urban Hiker

SmallTown wrote:

313xxx and there's no way you want to deal with ticketbasturd. I've ben anywhere from row 18 at Thunder Bay to row 33 in Chicago. Either way you won't find anything better than what the 10c offers for us.

I've contemplated getting extra tickmaster tickets shows, 'cause @ 5'-4" I can't see shit if I'm very far back. I'd prefer being up on the sides. In fact, I thoroughly enjoyed my Mike's side near behind the stage ticketmaster tickets in Vancouver last year. Those seats were way better than the 21st+ row ten club tickets I had in '03.

GeorgeinNY

just to get back to the 1 ticket option (read- option, you can buy 1 OR 2): how many people here had to either sell their tickets at below cost or even eat them since there were no takers for your extra ticket? Id wager quite a few.

How many times have I heard of people picking up KILLER 10C tickets for $20 bucks or even for FREE.

Also getting a friend to join you might be nice for a show in your home town but what about cases where you travel to different states, to venues where it will be hard to get rid of your extra ticket since the place is out of the way and not too many people go there unless they already have a ticket, like the Meadowlands?

slightofjeff

GeorgeinNY wrote:

just to get back to the 1 ticket option (read- option, you can buy 1 OR 2): how many people here had to either sell their tickets at below cost or even eat them since there were no takers for your extra ticket? Id wager quite a few.

I've never had trouble selling my extra for face value. but maybe I've just been getting lucky.

teskeinc

all of the people who are up front joined before there were even tickets distributed by the Ten Club, now the only reason people are joining is to get the priority tickets. The 1st 3 rows should be random , after that seniority. Oh yeah, the Ten Club should flag Spinbrett put him in the last row on the top for starting whiny threads relentlessly in this forum.

CanadianEH

Reno1979 wrote:

Why is it funny? Of course the people who aren't happy will raise their voice. HELLO? I support a change. For the good of the whole. My number is 103XXX. Everyone with a low number should still get ONE show based on their seniority. A tip of the cap for long time faithfulness. After that, just do it randomly.

Even between us with lower numbers I don't think it is quite fair. Let's say I am in Philly and have number 140XXX. That puts me on the side or back on the floor in the current system due to all the people on the east coast who travel to so many shows. Great side seat, or good middle floor seats. If you had a better system. that would put the same person way up front, in their home town. I just think I would gladly sit a bit farther back, and have some equity. My opinions... not the gospel.

The only problem with the "hometown" idea is people that live in places where Pearl Jam will most likely never play. Vancouver is about a 5-6 hour drive for me and Seattle is a 7-8 hour drive. The Gorge is about a 13 hour drive. With all the 10C members in Seatlle/Washington State, I would never be anywhere near the stage. Seattle is closer to both Vancouver and the Gorge, so people in that area would go to their hometown shows and have better seats than me who has to take time off work, make accomodation arrangements, and find modes of travel. I make it a point to see at least one show that is within reasonable travel distance every tour (not leg). The only way to solve this is for Pearl Jam to play Kelowna.

Vedderman23

teskeinc wrote:

all of the people who are up front joined before there were even tickets distributed by the Ten Club, now the only reason people are joining is to get the priority tickets.

DING DING DING we have a winner!