How is that any different from what we do everyday. I have been in the work force for 15 years and if i have an ailment it comes out of my cut I unfortunately dont get to pass the buck.
So are you saying that they have a harder & more stressful job than most of us?
I don't know what you do so I can't say that. But if you think they have an easy job, then you're wrong.
Someone asked why touring these days is more taxing. I answered. Somehow that equaled to me saying that "These are the reasons why ticket prices are higher and it's justified". Personally, like I said before I have no problem with the prices. But if I did I wouldn't buy them. Simple solution.
Assuming this is not fallacious and has remained somewhat consistent since the Riot Act tour, I have a difficult time feigning sympathy for these inane ticket prices. Six pages of bullshit rock star excess demands, all the way from the furniture they require in their dressing room right down to the kind of fruit they expect to have on their banquet tables and the ratio of Heineken to local beer they expect in their coolers. How does the song go again? "G-R-E-E-D, G-R....."
How is it greed? Have you ever been backstage at a show? Its the norm to make the area comfy for the band and their guests.
If they didn't state their needs/wants, they'd get 3-liter bottles of shasta, and cases of Meisterbrau instead.
Assuming this is not fallacious and has remained somewhat consistent since the Riot Act tour, I have a difficult time feigning sympathy for these inane ticket prices. Six pages of bullshit rock star excess demands, all the way from the furniture they require in their dressing room right down to the kind of fruit they expect to have on their banquet tables and the ratio of Heineken to local beer they expect in their coolers. How does the song go again? "G-R-E-E-D, G-R....."
So what you are saying is if today your boss walked up to you and told you he would supply you with whatever kind of beer you wanted at work and any kind of snacks you wanted and all you had to do was put it in writing you would turn him down? I don't really look at it as demands, since no where does it say that the show will be cancelled if there is Dasani instead of Evian. It is more like they are offering you a bunch of stuff and you just have to write down what you want. Plus the wine they want is in the $15-20 a bottle range, that's like the wine I buy.
After checking this out, I was surprised at the LACK of rock star-ish requests. the most alarming things I found in it were: They bring a blender around tour for "smoothies"
and they request "6 pounds of carrots"
I think the ticket prices are more than reasonable. This band has never been in the business of screwing their fans and I don't think they are trying to screw us now. I am happy to pay $70 or $80 bucks to see them.
Well since somebody used Radiohead for an example I will too.
1998 Radiohead Ticket 32.00
1998 Pearl Jam ticket 25.00
2008 Radiohead ticket West Palm Beach 64.00
2008 Pearl Jam ticket West Palm Beach 74.00
Radioheads ticket price has gone up 10% per year.
Pearl Jams ticket price has gone up 19% per year.
Again my point is not that they are charging $70/ticket but the fact that everyone is making excuses why the tickets are more expensive when the simple fact is that they want to make more money. I dont have a problem with that just dont blame it on fuel, inflation & the like.
Well since somebody used Radiohead for an example I will too.
1998 Radiohead Ticket 32.00
1998 Pearl Jam ticket 25.00
2008 Radiohead ticket West Palm Beach 64.00
2008 Pearl Jam ticket West Palm Beach 74.00
Radioheads ticket price has gone up 10% per year.
Pearl Jams ticket price has gone up 19% per year.
Again my point is not that they are charging $70/ticket but the fact that everyone is making excuses why the tickets are more expensive when the simple fact is that they want to make more money. I dont have a problem with that just dont blame it on fuel, inflation & the like.
So it cost you the same amount of money to get to work everyday as it did 5 years ago???? Just think, I'm pretty sure Pearl Jam has a longer commute than you do.
Their tour rider is actually significantly simpler than most bands. Please understand that you must be very specific when making your backstage requests as otherwise venues will provide you with bare bones accommodations. Everyone wants to be comfortable when at work. I have a beautiful high back leather office chair, large oak desk/credenza and matching bookcases. Would a folding chair and a card table allow me to do my job to? Of course it would, but I prefer to be comfortable in my office and bands are no different.
There's Pearl Jam, The Rolling Stones, Chuck Berry, Robert Johnson......and then everybody else.
Again my point is not that they are charging $70/ticket but the fact that everyone is making excuses why the tickets are more expensive when the simple fact is that they want to make more money. I dont have a problem with that just dont blame it on fuel, inflation & the like.
Exactly. They could still get people to go if they charged more. It's just that it is unexpected from this band.
Is that a joke? They might enjoy playing to thousands of adoring fans, but i imagine being on the road constantly for months and often going for weeks without seeing your family is much more stressful than what we deal with. Not to mention the toll on Ed's throat after singing for over 2 hours for 70+ shows each tour!
But i am sure there are a lot of people on this board that are away from their families, traveling, living out of a suit case. Work is work whatever way you do it. Whether it is playing the guitar in front of 12,000 people or working on an assembly line for 9 hours a day.
Also i think at this point in the bands career the family travels with them.
Well since somebody used Radiohead for an example I will too.
1998 Radiohead Ticket 32.00
1998 Pearl Jam ticket 25.00
2008 Radiohead ticket West Palm Beach 64.00
2008 Pearl Jam ticket West Palm Beach 74.00
Radioheads ticket price has gone up 10% per year.
Pearl Jams ticket price has gone up 19% per year.
Again my point is not that they are charging $70/ticket but the fact that everyone is making excuses why the tickets are more expensive when the simple fact is that they want to make more money. I dont have a problem with that just dont blame it on fuel, inflation & the like.
I think the intersting part of this is the fact that Pearl Jam was only charging 78% of what Radiohead was charging back in 1998, at a time when they were one of the biggest bands in the world. How many millions did they leave on the table for the 98 tour by only charging 25 bucks a show?
So it cost you the same amount of money to get to work everyday as it did 5 years ago???? Just think, I'm pretty sure Pearl Jam has a longer commute than you do.
But i have more job responsibilities hence the reason i got a raise.
Well since somebody used Radiohead for an example I will too.
1998 Radiohead Ticket 32.00
1998 Pearl Jam ticket 25.00
2008 Radiohead ticket West Palm Beach 64.00
2008 Pearl Jam ticket West Palm Beach 74.00
Radioheads ticket price has gone up 10% per year.
Pearl Jams ticket price has gone up 19% per year.
Again my point is not that they are charging $70/ticket but the fact that everyone is making excuses why the tickets are more expensive when the simple fact is that they want to make more money. I dont have a problem with that just dont blame it on fuel, inflation & the like.
now it's a bad thing to make money...?
do you work for free...? should they...?
honestly, I get your point, I just happen to disagree...
I just shelled out a 142 for Columbia tix, and I'm a happy camper...
Their tour rider is actually significantly simpler than most bands. Please understand that you must be very specific when making your backstage requests as otherwise venues will provide you with bare bones accommodations. Everyone wants to be comfortable when at work. I have a beautiful high back leather office chair, large oak desk/credenza and matching bookcases. Would a folding chair and a card table allow me to do my job to? Of course it would, but I prefer to be comfortable in my office and bands are no different.
A folding chair and a card table makes it sound like you do "three-card monty" for a living!
Well since somebody used Radiohead for an example I will too.
1998 Radiohead Ticket 32.00
1998 Pearl Jam ticket 25.00
2008 Radiohead ticket West Palm Beach 64.00
2008 Pearl Jam ticket West Palm Beach 74.00
Radioheads ticket price has gone up 10% per year.
Pearl Jams ticket price has gone up 19% per year.
Again my point is not that they are charging $70/ticket but the fact that everyone is making excuses why the tickets are more expensive when the simple fact is that they want to make more money. I dont have a problem with that just dont blame it on fuel, inflation & the like.
go see radiohead then:) save good tickets for someone else
"So forget the other boys because my love is real.
Come off your battlefield."
honestly, I get your point, I just happen to disagree...
I just shelled out a 142 for Columbia tix, and I'm a happy camper...
I am all for people making money, hell i want to make as much money as possible. Believe me if i didnt already have a prior commitment i would buy tickets to both MSG shows.
i love pj as much as anybody but lets be fair here, $75 is not cheap. . .i mean its not gonna stop me from going cause i love the band but lets not make this out to be a bargain. . .and yes i know they will put on an awesome show
edit: on second thought i was planning on going to 4 shows but now may cut it down to 3, i don't know, i'll see
i have wished for so long, how i wish for you today
JEFFREY ROSS ROGERS 1975-2002
But i have more job responsibilities hence the reason i got a raise.
and you can afford to pay more, that's why they raise prices, simple supply vs demand, demand is higher than supply, if the price is too high go to radiohead and enjoy the money you saved, cuz that's the only thing to entertain you at a radiohead show
"So forget the other boys because my love is real.
Come off your battlefield."
and you can afford to pay more, that's why they raise prices, simple supply vs demand, demand is higher than supply, if the price is too high go to radiohead and enjoy the money you saved, cuz that's the only thing to entertain you at a radiohead show
you realize that your whole business model is not something pj has ever been about and it sounds silly saying that? they are musical ARTISTS, they are not some big corporation
i have wished for so long, how i wish for you today
JEFFREY ROSS ROGERS 1975-2002
So you would pass up seeing Pearl Jam live because $20? Is it because $20 will make that much of a difference for you over the month or would it more to just prove a point? It is not like your phone bill where you have to pay it every month, it is maybe if you are lucky a once or twice a year thing.
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I don't know what you do so I can't say that. But if you think they have an easy job, then you're wrong.
Someone asked why touring these days is more taxing. I answered. Somehow that equaled to me saying that "These are the reasons why ticket prices are higher and it's justified". Personally, like I said before I have no problem with the prices. But if I did I wouldn't buy them. Simple solution.
How is it greed? Have you ever been backstage at a show? Its the norm to make the area comfy for the band and their guests.
If they didn't state their needs/wants, they'd get 3-liter bottles of shasta, and cases of Meisterbrau instead.
So what you are saying is if today your boss walked up to you and told you he would supply you with whatever kind of beer you wanted at work and any kind of snacks you wanted and all you had to do was put it in writing you would turn him down? I don't really look at it as demands, since no where does it say that the show will be cancelled if there is Dasani instead of Evian. It is more like they are offering you a bunch of stuff and you just have to write down what you want. Plus the wine they want is in the $15-20 a bottle range, that's like the wine I buy.
After checking this out, I was surprised at the LACK of rock star-ish requests. the most alarming things I found in it were: They bring a blender around tour for "smoothies"
and they request "6 pounds of carrots"
6FUCKING POUNDS OF CARROTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How does that song go? C-A-RRO-T-S....
3 Decibels Doubles the Volume
2006
Well since somebody used Radiohead for an example I will too.
1998 Radiohead Ticket 32.00
1998 Pearl Jam ticket 25.00
2008 Radiohead ticket West Palm Beach 64.00
2008 Pearl Jam ticket West Palm Beach 74.00
Radioheads ticket price has gone up 10% per year.
Pearl Jams ticket price has gone up 19% per year.
Again my point is not that they are charging $70/ticket but the fact that everyone is making excuses why the tickets are more expensive when the simple fact is that they want to make more money. I dont have a problem with that just dont blame it on fuel, inflation & the like.
Esther's here and she's sick?
hi Esther, now we are all going to be sick, thanks
So it cost you the same amount of money to get to work everyday as it did 5 years ago???? Just think, I'm pretty sure Pearl Jam has a longer commute than you do.
Exactly. They could still get people to go if they charged more. It's just that it is unexpected from this band.
But i am sure there are a lot of people on this board that are away from their families, traveling, living out of a suit case. Work is work whatever way you do it. Whether it is playing the guitar in front of 12,000 people or working on an assembly line for 9 hours a day.
Also i think at this point in the bands career the family travels with them.
I think the intersting part of this is the fact that Pearl Jam was only charging 78% of what Radiohead was charging back in 1998, at a time when they were one of the biggest bands in the world. How many millions did they leave on the table for the 98 tour by only charging 25 bucks a show?
But i have more job responsibilities hence the reason i got a raise.
now it's a bad thing to make money...?
do you work for free...? should they...?
honestly, I get your point, I just happen to disagree...
I just shelled out a 142 for Columbia tix, and I'm a happy camper...
congratulations on your raise.
A folding chair and a card table makes it sound like you do "three-card monty" for a living!
go see radiohead then:) save good tickets for someone else
Come off your battlefield."
I am all for people making money, hell i want to make as much money as possible. Believe me if i didnt already have a prior commitment i would buy tickets to both MSG shows.
edit: on second thought i was planning on going to 4 shows but now may cut it down to 3, i don't know, i'll see
JEFFREY ROSS ROGERS 1975-2002
9.10.98 NYC / 8.23.00 JONES BEACH /4.30.03 UNIONDALE / 7.9.03 NYC /5.12.06 ALBANY/ 6.1.06 E.RUTHEFORD/ 6.3.06 E. RUTHEFORD/ CAMDEN 6.19.08/ NYC 6.24.08/ NYC 6.25.08/ HARTFORD 6.27.08/ CHICAGO 8.24.09/ PHILLY 10.31.09/ HARTFORD 5.15.10/ NEWARK 5.18.10/ NYC 5.20.10/ CHICAGO 7.19.13/ BROOKLYN 10.18.13/ BROOKLYN 10.19.13/ HARTFORD 10.25.13/ NYC 9.26.15/ 4.8.16 FT. LAUDERDALE/ 4.9.16 MIAMI / 5.1.16 NYC/ 5.2.16 NYC / 8.5.16 BOSTON / 8.7.16 BOSTON/ 8.20.18 CHICAGO/ 9.2.18 BOSTON/ 9.4.18 BOSTON/ 9.18.21 ASBURY PARK
finally, FUCK TICKETMASTER
and you can afford to pay more, that's why they raise prices, simple supply vs demand, demand is higher than supply, if the price is too high go to radiohead and enjoy the money you saved, cuz that's the only thing to entertain you at a radiohead show
Come off your battlefield."
See you there!
JEFFREY ROSS ROGERS 1975-2002
9.10.98 NYC / 8.23.00 JONES BEACH /4.30.03 UNIONDALE / 7.9.03 NYC /5.12.06 ALBANY/ 6.1.06 E.RUTHEFORD/ 6.3.06 E. RUTHEFORD/ CAMDEN 6.19.08/ NYC 6.24.08/ NYC 6.25.08/ HARTFORD 6.27.08/ CHICAGO 8.24.09/ PHILLY 10.31.09/ HARTFORD 5.15.10/ NEWARK 5.18.10/ NYC 5.20.10/ CHICAGO 7.19.13/ BROOKLYN 10.18.13/ BROOKLYN 10.19.13/ HARTFORD 10.25.13/ NYC 9.26.15/ 4.8.16 FT. LAUDERDALE/ 4.9.16 MIAMI / 5.1.16 NYC/ 5.2.16 NYC / 8.5.16 BOSTON / 8.7.16 BOSTON/ 8.20.18 CHICAGO/ 9.2.18 BOSTON/ 9.4.18 BOSTON/ 9.18.21 ASBURY PARK
finally, FUCK TICKETMASTER
fantastic...:)
ok, then...
how much is not steep...?
JEFFREY ROSS ROGERS 1975-2002
9.10.98 NYC / 8.23.00 JONES BEACH /4.30.03 UNIONDALE / 7.9.03 NYC /5.12.06 ALBANY/ 6.1.06 E.RUTHEFORD/ 6.3.06 E. RUTHEFORD/ CAMDEN 6.19.08/ NYC 6.24.08/ NYC 6.25.08/ HARTFORD 6.27.08/ CHICAGO 8.24.09/ PHILLY 10.31.09/ HARTFORD 5.15.10/ NEWARK 5.18.10/ NYC 5.20.10/ CHICAGO 7.19.13/ BROOKLYN 10.18.13/ BROOKLYN 10.19.13/ HARTFORD 10.25.13/ NYC 9.26.15/ 4.8.16 FT. LAUDERDALE/ 4.9.16 MIAMI / 5.1.16 NYC/ 5.2.16 NYC / 8.5.16 BOSTON / 8.7.16 BOSTON/ 8.20.18 CHICAGO/ 9.2.18 BOSTON/ 9.4.18 BOSTON/ 9.18.21 ASBURY PARK
finally, FUCK TICKETMASTER
JEFFREY ROSS ROGERS 1975-2002
9.10.98 NYC / 8.23.00 JONES BEACH /4.30.03 UNIONDALE / 7.9.03 NYC /5.12.06 ALBANY/ 6.1.06 E.RUTHEFORD/ 6.3.06 E. RUTHEFORD/ CAMDEN 6.19.08/ NYC 6.24.08/ NYC 6.25.08/ HARTFORD 6.27.08/ CHICAGO 8.24.09/ PHILLY 10.31.09/ HARTFORD 5.15.10/ NEWARK 5.18.10/ NYC 5.20.10/ CHICAGO 7.19.13/ BROOKLYN 10.18.13/ BROOKLYN 10.19.13/ HARTFORD 10.25.13/ NYC 9.26.15/ 4.8.16 FT. LAUDERDALE/ 4.9.16 MIAMI / 5.1.16 NYC/ 5.2.16 NYC / 8.5.16 BOSTON / 8.7.16 BOSTON/ 8.20.18 CHICAGO/ 9.2.18 BOSTON/ 9.4.18 BOSTON/ 9.18.21 ASBURY PARK
finally, FUCK TICKETMASTER
So you would pass up seeing Pearl Jam live because $20? Is it because $20 will make that much of a difference for you over the month or would it more to just prove a point? It is not like your phone bill where you have to pay it every month, it is maybe if you are lucky a once or twice a year thing.
JEFFREY ROSS ROGERS 1975-2002
9.10.98 NYC / 8.23.00 JONES BEACH /4.30.03 UNIONDALE / 7.9.03 NYC /5.12.06 ALBANY/ 6.1.06 E.RUTHEFORD/ 6.3.06 E. RUTHEFORD/ CAMDEN 6.19.08/ NYC 6.24.08/ NYC 6.25.08/ HARTFORD 6.27.08/ CHICAGO 8.24.09/ PHILLY 10.31.09/ HARTFORD 5.15.10/ NEWARK 5.18.10/ NYC 5.20.10/ CHICAGO 7.19.13/ BROOKLYN 10.18.13/ BROOKLYN 10.19.13/ HARTFORD 10.25.13/ NYC 9.26.15/ 4.8.16 FT. LAUDERDALE/ 4.9.16 MIAMI / 5.1.16 NYC/ 5.2.16 NYC / 8.5.16 BOSTON / 8.7.16 BOSTON/ 8.20.18 CHICAGO/ 9.2.18 BOSTON/ 9.4.18 BOSTON/ 9.18.21 ASBURY PARK
finally, FUCK TICKETMASTER