Knockout Game

Jason P

polaris_x wrote:

as i keep saying ... race issues in the US are deteriorating ... but like everything else - let's just chant 3 letters and all will be good ...

Until the day that NFL stadium's fans are throwing bananas and making monkey noises at players with dark-toned skin and have neo-nazi sections in the stands, I think we are leagues ahead of most the world in race relations.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

Jason P wrote:

polaris_x wrote:

as i keep saying ... race issues in the US are deteriorating ... but like everything else - let's just chant 3 letters and all will be good ...

Until the day that NFL stadium's fans are throwing bananas and making monkey noises at players with dark-toned skin and have neo-nazi sections in the stands, I think we are leagues ahead of most the world in race relations.

not in the 1st world.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

Meaning... in Canada... it at least appears that one's ethnicity has no bearing on one's propensity for crime.

incorrect.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/aboriginal-corrections-report-finds-systemic-discrimination-1.1338498

"In other words, while aboriginal people in Canada comprise just four per cent of the population, in federal prisons nearly one in four is Métis, Inuit, or First Nations."

MotoDC

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

Meaning... in Canada... it at least appears that one's ethnicity has no bearing on one's propensity for crime.

incorrect.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/aboriginal-corrections-report-finds-systemic-discrimination-1.1338498

"In other words, while aboriginal people in Canada comprise just four per cent of the population, in federal prisons nearly one in four is Métis, Inuit, or First Nations."

Yeah, suck it, Canada! U-S-A U-S-A



Also does anyone else read HFD's handle as "Huge Freakin Dillon"? No? That's just me? Yikes.

Jason P

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

Jason P wrote:

polaris_x wrote:

as i keep saying ... race issues in the US are deteriorating ... but like everything else - let's just chant 3 letters and all will be good ...

Until the day that NFL stadium's fans are throwing bananas and making monkey noises at players with dark-toned skin and have neo-nazi sections in the stands, I think we are leagues ahead of most the world in race relations.

not in the 1st world.

From what I've seen on European and Russian soccer coverage, yes we are.

polaris_x

Jason P wrote:

polaris_x wrote:

as i keep saying ... race issues in the US are deteriorating ... but like everything else - let's just chant 3 letters and all will be good ...

Until the day that NFL stadium's fans are throwing bananas and making monkey noises at players with dark-toned skin and have neo-nazi sections in the stands, I think we are leagues ahead of most the world in race relations.

:fp:

and this is why it will only get worse ... let's just point to where its shit elsewhere so we can ignore what's clearly in front of us ...

Hugh Freaking Dillon

Jason P wrote:

From what I've seen on European and Russian soccer coverage, yes we are.

well I don't tend to base my knowledge of global social norms on sporting events.

Jason P

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

Jason P wrote:

From what I've seen on European and Russian soccer coverage, yes we are.

well I don't tend to base my knowledge of global social norms on sporting events.

it's just good science :geek:

Jason P

polaris_x wrote:

and this is why it will only get worse ... let's just point to where its shit elsewhere so we can ignore what's clearly in front of us ...

as in the knockout game? A handfull of people get knocked out and it's a sign of racial war?

An electrician I work with lived on 8-mile as a kid during the Detroit race riots. His dad gave him a steel rod to hide up his sleeve for protection when he sent him off to school. That was late 60's. To say we are regressing is nuts.

(edit: maybe using a city that currently needs an actual robocop isn't the perfect example ... :think:)

Go Beavers

Using statistics that show blacks are disproportionately represented in prisons isn't evidence that they are equally disproportionately violent. Let's think some more about the numbers.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

Jason P wrote:

polaris_x wrote:

and this is why it will only get worse ... let's just point to where its shit elsewhere so we can ignore what's clearly in front of us ...

as in the knockout game? A handfull of people get knocked out and it's a sign of racial war?

An electrician I work with lived on 8-mile as a kid during the Detroit race riots. His dad gave him a steel rod to hide up his sleeve for protection when he sent him off to school. That was late 60's. To say we are regressing is nuts.

(edit: maybe using a city that currently needs an actual robocop isn't the perfect example ... :think:)

no, polaris, I believe, is pointing to the fact that you said "it's much worse elsewhere", which would then bring someone to assume that means you are dismissing the problem here.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

Meaning... in Canada... it at least appears that one's ethnicity has no bearing on one's propensity for crime.

incorrect.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/aboriginal-corrections-report-finds-systemic-discrimination-1.1338498

"In other words, while aboriginal people in Canada comprise just four per cent of the population, in federal prisons nearly one in four is Métis, Inuit, or First Nations."

I was referring to the Toronto Star's statistical analysis for establishing my position.

The statistics you present seem more likely given what I know.

So...

1. Aboriginal people comprise a disproportionate percentage of our prison population in Canada.

2. Black people comprise a disproportionate percentage of the prison population in the US.

Hmmm...

Both demographics were exploited and abused in the formative stages of each country. Both demographics deal with poverty more than 'other' demographics.

Is there not an obvious correlation?

backseatLover12

unsung wrote:

Exactly why concealed carry should be available and legal.

:roll:

Hugh Freaking Dillon

Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

Both demographics were exploited and abused in the formative stages of each country. Both demographics deal with poverty more than 'other' demographics.

Is there not an obvious correlation?

obvious to those of us who don't think guns are the solution.

Dirtie_Frank

My issue is that if this was a group of white kids doing it to blacks it would be all over the news. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton would be calling for the kids heads.

ajedigecko

Dirtie_Frank wrote:

My issue is that if this was a group of white kids doing it to blacks it would be all over the news. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton would be calling for the kids heads.

Yep

Go Beavers

ajedigecko wrote:

Dirtie_Frank wrote:

My issue is that if this was a group of white kids doing it to blacks it would be all over the news. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton would be calling for the kids heads.

Yep

Here's an ABC news article linked via Yahoo:

http://news.yahoo.com/knockout-game-suspect-charged-hate-crime-100039465--abc-news-topstories.html

Godfather.

unsung wrote:

Exactly why concealed carry should be available and legal.

I just watched a story on you tube about a punk that tried that crap on guy with a C&C little asshole got shot twice and two years in prison while the shooter walked clean.


Godfather.

Godfather.

Dirtie_Frank wrote:

My issue is that if this was a group of white kids doing it to blacks it would be all over the news. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton would be calling for the kids heads.

straight up truth !


Godfather.

Cosmo

Godfather. wrote:

unsung wrote:

Exactly why concealed carry should be available and legal.

I just watched a story on you tube about a punk that tried that crap on guy with a C&C little asshole got shot twice and two years in prison while the shooter walked clean.


Godfather.

...
Can you post a link to that YouTube video? I'd like to see it.
Thanx.