Knockout Game

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edited December 2013 in A Moving Train
Just beginning to learn about this.

Not hate crime though?

Polar bear hunting
Woods


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SURPRISE! MEDIA FINALLY WAKE UP TO KNOCKOUT GAME
'It's only new if you have been aggressively ignoring the epidemic of black mob violence'
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(Editor’s note: Colin Flaherty has done more reporting than any other journalist on what appears to be a nationwide trend of skyrocketing black-on-white crime, violence and abuse. WND features these reports to counterbalance the virtual blackout by the rest of the media due to their concerns that reporting such incidents would be inflammatory or even racist. WND considers it racist not to report racial abuse solely because of the skin color of the perpetrators or victims.) Videos linked or embedded may contain foul language and violence.

Ever so slowly, reporters are starting to figure out a version of black mob violence called the Knockout Game.

The first chip in the wall fell in New York, where Police Commissioner Ray Kelly said last week that Orthodox Jews in Crown Heights were the victims of eight episodes of mob violence and vandalism.

He did not see a pattern.

But the New York Post did, reporting: “The way the game is played, one of a number of young blacks decides to show that he can knock down some stranger on the streets, preferably with one punch, as they pass by. Often, some other member of the group records the event so that a video of that ‘achievement’ is put on the Internet to be celebrated.”

The violence, caught on video, was so egregious even the CBS affiliate in New York had trouble ignoring it. The station reported that Rabbi Yaacov Behrman said “he believes the assaults are part of a disturbing game by some African-American teens.”

The same station, however, reported on the Knockout Game in Hoboken just a few days before without mentioning the central organizing feature of the violence: The race of the perpetrators.

In Washington, D.C., the CBS affiliate reported this week that at least two people were recent victims of the Knockout Game. But the station got it wrong on two counts. One was of omission: It did not mention that everyone involved in committing the Knockout Game is black.

The station also did not report that white and Asian people throughout the district are subject to frequent black mob violence on bike trails, on mass transit, in entertainment districts, in “gay” neighborhoods and just about everywhere else, as documented in “White Girl Bleed a Lot: The Return of Racial Violence to America and How the Media Ignore it.”

Black mobs routinely terrorize cities across the country, but the media and government are silent. Read the detailed account of rampant racial crime – and get links to videos providing the proof – in “White Girl Bleed A Lot: The Return of Racial Violence to America and How the Media Ignore It.”

The other error is of commission: They called it “new.”

WND, however, has documented hundreds of examples of the Knockout Game around the country over the last two years. They include several stories from Washington.

“It’s only new if you have been aggressively ignoring the epidemic of black mob violence around the country,” said Sherry Godfrey, of Springfield, Mo. “But it happened to my son and I had no idea it was happening around the country until I researched it and found the book “White Girl Bleed A Lot.”

For reporters willing to look, hundreds of examples are easy to find – though more often the perpetrators are identified as “unruly teens” or “rambunctious” rather than creators of racial violence and mayhem.

A smattering:

In Hoboken, three black people punched a homeless person in September. He died. Not too much different from an earlier episode in Syracuse, where a black mob killed Michael Daniels in May.

In August in Lansing, several black people tried to play the Knockout Game with a twist: They used a taser. It misfired. The victim’s gun did not. He wounded his attacker but stopped firing after the Knockout Artist begged for mercy.

In January, several members of the University of Alabama national championship football team attacked two students in what many call the Knockout Game.

At the University of Illinois in Champaign, the game has a different name: Polar Bear Hunting. But with dozens of examples, including a local TV reporter, the black mobs play by the same rules: Find a defenseless white or Asian person, and punch them in the face until your arms are tired. Or they are knocked out. Or dead.

In Chicago last year, two black people killed a Mexican immigrant and grandfather as he was collecting cans in a downtown alley. The local press had trouble talking about the race of the perpetrators, but Mexican national news did not: Top 100 Black Mob Violence Videos #87: Spanish edition.

CNN however, was eager to report that the families of the black people arrested and later convicted of the crime after posting it on Facebook were good boys who were just playing a “prank that got out of hand.”

In St. Cloud, Minn., a car full of black people came upon a college student in an alley walking two girls home from the library. The car screeched to a stop, one man got out and hit 20-year old Colton Gleason in the face. He died. His attacker was convicted earlier this year after the jury rejected his defense that Colton and the two female college students he was walking home actually hit their car.

In March of this year, six black people were convicted in the stabbing death of Matthew Chew in New London, Conn. The headline tells the story: 25-year-old victim loses Knockout Game.

In Pittsburgh last year, several black people were caught on video punching a teacher in the face as they passed each other in an alley. That happened twice: Earlier that year, another teacher was almost killed as he slipped and fell in traffic while fleeing the Knockout Game, on video.

Last year in Meriden, Conn., DeAndre Felton and his 10 of his friends thought they found an easy mark for a bit of the old Knockout Game. They chose the wrong guy: He pulled a knife and killed DeAndre and wounded one other attacker. The attackers’ parents said their children were innocent, just like Trayvon Martin in Florida.

In St. Louis earlier this year, a black person was sentenced to life for the Knockout Game death of a 72-year old Vietnamese immigrant.

In St. Louis alone, a judge said one person was responsible for 300 episodes of the Knockout Game.

In Oklahoma earlier this year, an accused killer of the Australian college student Chris Lane tweeted that he was “playing golf” and hitting “woods” prior to the murder earlier this month. Woods is short for “peckerwoods:” White people. The Knockout Game.

He said he did that five times since the acquittal of George Zimmerman for the death of Trayvon Martin.

Anyone looking at the hundreds and hundreds of examples – many on video – knows this: The victims can be white. Or Asian. Or women. Or homosexual. But this much they have in common: All of attackers in the Knockout Game are black.

A St. Louis writer, activist and boxing coach talks about the Knockout Game in his video blog. He says police ignore many Knockout Game assaults because they make the city look bad.The perpetrators are black and the victims are not, he says. But the boxing coach knows why:

Most of the people who get beat up are vegans, gays, artists, non-violent types. Many are kids from the suburbs or recent immigrants. People who are not prepared to defend themselves. There are white neighborhoods – blue collar, middle class neighborhoods – where these folks will not go because they know that people there are willing to defend themselves.

On Monday, April 23, 2012, an elderly lady was attacked by a group of teenagers at the bus stop on Grand and Page. There has been no media coverage of this event. I have met several victims and the story is always the same going back to 2005.

Finally, this week, it all got to be too much for Greta Van Susteren of Fox News. She did an “off the record” commentary in which she talked about “young African American teenagers viciously and gratuitously attacking a random victim – a teacher – in Pittsburgh, Pa.”

Greta gets points for identifying the attackers, but the victim was not random: He was white.

Greta continued with her description of the Knockout Game, then her commentary took a strange twist: She appealed to Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton for help in stopping this racial violence.

She totally ignored the role Sharpton had in encouraging racial violence when in 1991 he was involved in three days of black mob violence directed at Jews in Crown Heights.

“I beg of Rev. Jesse Jackson, Rev. Al Sharpton and even President Obama to step up right now and speak out,” said Van Susteren.

Maybe they can have a beer summit.

Note: Media wishing to interview Colin Flaherty, the author of “White Girl Bleed A Lot,” please contact us here.

Related commentary:

“Glossing over black thugs’ ‘game’” by Thomas Sowell

Black mobs routinely terrorize cities across the country, but the media and government are silent. Read the detailed account of rampant racial crime – and get links to videos providing the proof – in “White Girl Bleed A Lot: The Return of Racial Violence to America and How the Media Ignore It.”


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  • ajedigeckoajedigecko Posts: 2,430
    Police: Examples Of Troubling ‘Knockout’ Game Popping Up All Over
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    NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) — A disturbing and brutal game among teens is also targeting other victims in other cities.

    Just last week, CBS 2’s John Slattery reported on a disturbing series of attack on Jews in Brooklyn. Now we’re find out New York City is not alone.

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    Police: Examples Of Troubling 'Knockout' Game Popping Up All Over
    1010 WINS' Al Jones Reports
    Brutal video is coming in from various places, including Pittsburgh, where a teacher was attacked, and London, where a teen was hit from behind. On Tuesday afternoon, CBS 2 learned of another victim — a 78-year-old woman attacked a week ago Saturday in Midwood.

    It’s called the “knockout game.”

    The victim in Pittsburgh was 50-year-old James Addeslpurger. A 15-year-old was charged with assault.

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    WCBS 880's Marla Diamond reports.
    Back in September, 46-year-old Ralph Santiago of Hoboken, N.J., was killed after his head was slammed into an iron fence. The three arrested, who police said were captured on video, were just 13 and 14 years old.

    And in the latest incident in Midwood, the victim’s daughter said her mother was attacked in broad daylight by a young man who walked toward her, balled up his fist and hit her with all his might on the top of her head then ran off.

    The woman told CBS 2’s Dave Carlin her mother was loaded down with department store bags and a handbag, but there was no attempt to take anything; just to do harm.

    “She had her purse, she had bags from department stores. There was not even an attempt to take anything from her. It was just a wanton act to hurt another human being,” the victim’s daughter said.

    She said her mother did not go to the hospital and did not report it to police because she thought it was an isolated case, and she didn’t get a good look at the man’s face.

    The woman was amazed that anyone could perpetrate such a violent act.


    “How would you feel if this was happening to you or a member of your family?” she said, “If you don’t like it to happen to you or a member of your family, don’t do it to someone else.”

    What’s happened of late in Brooklyn is just a variation on a theme. Since October, there have been four attacks in Crown Heights.

    “It’s ‘knockout,’ and it happens to be a Jew in each and every case,” State Assemblyman Dov Hikind (D-Brooklyn) said.

    He expressed shock at the latest incident in Midwood.

    “People think it’s a fun thing to attack somebody – in this case, a person who’s 78 years old,” Hikind told 1010 WINS’ Al Jones.

    In the recent attacks in Brooklyn, a 20-year old Israeli man in a hooded jacket was attacked, and another man’s 12-year-old son was hit on his way to Hebrew school.

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    1010 WINS' Al Jones reports.
    At a community meeting between blacks and Jews in Crown Heights, an assistant police chief said there have been four such assaults since early October. So, more police have been deployed. Many present said young African-Americans need to be educated about such bias crimes.

    “We need to engage these young people and engage their parents,” said the Rev. Taharka Robinson of the Brooklyn Anti-Violence Coalition.

    Assemblyman Hikind said that’s fine, but he wants more.

    “I’m for people being arrested. That would be the best education in the world,” Hikind said.

    Hikind urged the NYPD to catch those responsible quickly and show the “knockout game” is not a game at all.

    Many are calling “knockout” another example of peer pressure and showing off, with tragic and sometimes fatal results.

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    live and let live...unless it violates the pearligious doctrine.
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    Exactly why concealed carry should be available and legal.
  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,529
    just starting to hear these stories about this so-called 'game'. it's disgusting that we can't talk openly about the role young black males are playing in this country. until we can start to have open frank discussions about race I feel we are headed for another race war.
  • BinFrogBinFrog Posts: 7,309
    The knockout game is disgusting and deserves attention.

    But wmd.com is an absolute joke, and of course it would be the site you link to.


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    Dude, even Ann Coulter was too much for them. Stand up people doing bang up "journalism".

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/terry-kre ... 73326.html

    http://www.rightwingwatch.org/category/ ... ldnetdaily

    http://conwebwatch.tripod.com/stories/2 ... iar08.html

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  • Sick fucks one of those links mentioned happened in my town. Back in September a homeless guy was killed 4 blocks from my apt by some punks playing this game. They found the guy impalled on a fence, the kids that did it were 13&14 years old.

    http://m.nydailynews.com/1.1463380
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    BinFrog wrote:
    The knockout game is disgusting and deserves attention.

    But wmd.com is an absolute joke, and of course it would be the site you link to.
    But the information is accurate, in this case.

    Anyway, I've recently heard about this so-called game and cringed at footage of some innocent woman being decked hard, hitting the sidewalk face-first.

    My god, what is wrong with these people?

    And as much (deserved) attention bullying has received, why not this as well?

    This comes to mind, from Tool's Schism -

    "Cold silence has a tendency to atrophy any sense of compassion"
  • BinFrogBinFrog Posts: 7,309
    hedonist wrote:
    BinFrog wrote:
    The knockout game is disgusting and deserves attention.

    But wmd.com is an absolute joke, and of course it would be the site you link to.
    But the information is accurate, in this case.

    Anyway, I've recently heard about this so-called game and cringed at footage of some innocent woman being decked hard, hitting the sidewalk face-first.

    My god, what is wrong with these people?

    And as much (deserved) attention bullying has received, why not this as well?

    This comes to mind, from Tool's Schism -

    "Cold silence has a tendency to atrophy any sense of compassion"


    The story is legit, but their take on it is over the top.

    I agree though that we need to stop tip-toeing around race issues. Clearly this is a story with racial tones. It just is, no way around it.

    There's no "epidemic" like this with white perpetrators, but it's not like white teens haven't done similar things in the past.

    But sites like WMD love when black kids do shit like this. They lap it up.
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  • ajedigeckoajedigecko Posts: 2,430
    ...and that is why i included cnn.

    So the butt hurt would be lessened.
    live and let live...unless it violates the pearligious doctrine.
  • ajedigeckoajedigecko Posts: 2,430
    edited November 2013
    unsung wrote:
    Exactly why concealed carry should be available and legal.



    Yep.

    Over the top? Tell that to the families of the victims.
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  • BinFrogBinFrog Posts: 7,309
    ajedigecko wrote:
    ...and that is why i included cnn.

    So the butt hurt would be lessened.


    You can't even apply the term butt hurt correctly. Good god.
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  • ajedigecko wrote:
    unsung wrote:
    Exactly why concealed carry should be available and legal.



    Yep.

    Over the top? Tell that to the families of the victims.

    And so that some person, irrationally scared and motivated by fear while walking towards a group of black kids on the same side of the street, decides to shoot?
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  • ajedigeckoajedigecko Posts: 2,430
    BinFrog wrote:
    ajedigecko wrote:
    ...and that is why i included cnn.

    So the butt hurt would be lessened.


    You can't even apply the term butt hurt correctly. Good god.


    Getting your feelings hurt, being offended or getting all bent out of shape because of something petty or stupid.
    live and let live...unless it violates the pearligious doctrine.
  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,529
    ajedigecko wrote:
    unsung wrote:
    Exactly why concealed carry should be available and legal.



    Yep.

    Over the top? Tell that to the families of the victims.

    And so that some person, irrationally scared and motivated by fear while walking towards a group of black kids on the same side of the street, decides to shoot?

    is it really an irrational fear when the percentages are so high for young black male committing crimes? not saying they should open fire but totally understand being very wary in these type of situations.
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    as i keep saying ... race issues in the US are deteriorating ... but like everything else - let's just chant 3 letters and all will be good ...
  • pjhawks wrote:
    And so that some person, irrationally scared and motivated by fear while walking towards a group of black kids on the same side of the street, decides to shoot?

    is it really an irrational fear when the percentages are so high for young black male committing crimes? not saying they should open fire but totally understand being very wary in these type of situations.

    You speak of percentages... so let's consider them: the percentage of black youths who are committing crimes is miniscule. Most black youths are just youths- dreaming of some kind of future, but worried for what might await them.
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  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,529
    pjhawks wrote:
    And so that some person, irrationally scared and motivated by fear while walking towards a group of black kids on the same side of the street, decides to shoot?

    is it really an irrational fear when the percentages are so high for young black male committing crimes? not saying they should open fire but totally understand being very wary in these type of situations.

    You speak of percentages... so let's consider them: the percentage of black youths who are committing crimes is miniscule. Most black youths are just youths- dreaming of some kind of future, but worried for what might await them.

    very quickly found just one tad bit of information on this subject.

    (According to America Community Survey.)

    A black male born in 1991 has a 29% chance of spending time in prison at some point in his life.2
    Nearly one in three African American males aged 20–29 are under some form of criminal justice supervision whether imprisoned, jailed, on parole or probation.
    One out of nine African American men will be incarcerated between the ages of 20 and 34.
    Black males ages 30 to 34 have the highest incarceration rate of any race/ethnicity.

    I'd say 29-33% is more than 'miniscule'
  • pjhawks wrote:

    You speak of percentages... so let's consider them: the percentage of black youths who are committing crimes is miniscule. Most black youths are just youths- dreaming of some kind of future, but worried for what might await them.

    very quickly found just one tad bit of information on this subject.

    (According to America Community Survey.)

    A black male born in 1991 has a 29% chance of spending time in prison at some point in his life.2
    Nearly one in three African American males aged 20–29 are under some form of criminal justice supervision whether imprisoned, jailed, on parole or probation.
    One out of nine African American men will be incarcerated between the ages of 20 and 34.
    Black males ages 30 to 34 have the highest incarceration rate of any race/ethnicity.

    I'd say 29-33% is more than 'miniscule'

    Where I live... Canadian governments and police forces generally do not distribute race and crime statistics, partly out of a fear it will stigmatize communities and fuel racism. But the lack of information may be another reason why Canadians thought people with criminal records were disproportionately non-white.

    http://www.thestar.com/sponsored_sectio ... ng_us.html

    Accurate information is hard to come by, but public surveys show that Canadians believe that in our country... 1 in 3 criminals are of an ethnic minority. The truth is that ratio is actually 1 in 6. Now, our country is predominantly white... so it would figure that the majority of our criminals are white as well... but I would speculate to say that the 'actual' ratio parallels our ethnic diversity rather closely.

    Meaning... in Canada... it at least appears that one's ethnicity has no bearing on one's propensity for crime.

    So, I ask you this, why do the statistics you present manifest themselves as they do? It's not reasonable to suggest that black people are born to be criminals... so what is it that shapes some into the criminal element you speak of?
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  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,529
    pjhawks wrote:

    You speak of percentages... so let's consider them: the percentage of black youths who are committing crimes is miniscule. Most black youths are just youths- dreaming of some kind of future, but worried for what might await them.

    very quickly found just one tad bit of information on this subject.

    (According to America Community Survey.)

    A black male born in 1991 has a 29% chance of spending time in prison at some point in his life.2
    Nearly one in three African American males aged 20–29 are under some form of criminal justice supervision whether imprisoned, jailed, on parole or probation.
    One out of nine African American men will be incarcerated between the ages of 20 and 34.
    Black males ages 30 to 34 have the highest incarceration rate of any race/ethnicity.

    I'd say 29-33% is more than 'miniscule'

    Where I live... Canadian governments and police forces generally do not distribute race and crime statistics, partly out of a fear it will stigmatize communities and fuel racism. But the lack of information may be another reason why Canadians thought people with criminal records were disproportionately non-white.

    http://www.thestar.com/sponsored_sectio ... ng_us.html

    Accurate information is hard to come by, but public surveys show that Canadians believe that in our country... 1 in 3 criminals are of an ethnic minority. The truth is that ratio is actually 1 in 6. Now, our country is predominantly white... so it would figure that the majority of our criminals are white as well... but I would speculate to say that the 'actual' ratio parallels our ethnic diversity rather closely.

    Meaning... in Canada... it at least appears that one's ethnicity has no bearing on one's propensity for crime.

    So, I ask you this, why do the statistics you present manifest themselves as they do? It's not reasonable to suggest that black people are born to be criminals... so what is it that shapes some into the criminal element you speak of?

    in the US I'd say poverty, failing schools, the war on drugs and disproportionate number of dysfunctional homes. sadly the lack of home structure is self re-occurring because of the number of Imprisoned black males. it's become somewhat of an infinite loop now with each generation. i don't have any easy solutions for it. i think it would take years and years to offset many of the issues.
  • MotoDCMotoDC Posts: 947
    The problem with this tone of discussion (in OP article) is that it's not dealing with the root cause. This isn't a "black problem" any more than my Toyota running out of gas is a Toyota problem. It's a poverty problem. It's a broken home problem. It's a problem of a "sub" culture (if such a thing can be defined in the US) that has its historical roots in slavery and takes too many of its mindsets from that oppressed past. Everything I know about black people I learned from Bill Cosby. kee-yuck-yuck
  • ajedigeckoajedigecko Posts: 2,430
    MotoDC wrote:
    The problem with this tone of discussion (in OP article) is that it's not dealing with the root cause. This isn't a "black problem" any more than my Toyota running out of gas is a Toyota problem. It's a poverty problem. It's a broken home problem. It's a problem of a "sub" culture (if such a thing can be defined in the US) that has its historical roots in slavery and takes too many of its mindsets from that oppressed past. Everything I know about black people I learned from Bill Cosby. kee-yuck-yuck

    Family is the key.
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    polaris_x wrote:
    as i keep saying ... race issues in the US are deteriorating ... but like everything else - let's just chant 3 letters and all will be good ...
    Until the day that NFL stadium's fans are throwing bananas and making monkey noises at players with dark-toned skin and have neo-nazi sections in the stands, I think we are leagues ahead of most the world in race relations.
  • Jason P wrote:
    polaris_x wrote:
    as i keep saying ... race issues in the US are deteriorating ... but like everything else - let's just chant 3 letters and all will be good ...
    Until the day that NFL stadium's fans are throwing bananas and making monkey noises at players with dark-toned skin and have neo-nazi sections in the stands, I think we are leagues ahead of most the world in race relations.

    not in the 1st world.
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  • Meaning... in Canada... it at least appears that one's ethnicity has no bearing on one's propensity for crime.


    incorrect.

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/aboriginal-corrections-report-finds-systemic-discrimination-1.1338498

    "In other words, while aboriginal people in Canada comprise just four per cent of the population, in federal prisons nearly one in four is Métis, Inuit, or First Nations."
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  • MotoDCMotoDC Posts: 947

    Meaning... in Canada... it at least appears that one's ethnicity has no bearing on one's propensity for crime.


    incorrect.

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/aboriginal-corrections-report-finds-systemic-discrimination-1.1338498

    "In other words, while aboriginal people in Canada comprise just four per cent of the population, in federal prisons nearly one in four is Métis, Inuit, or First Nations."
    Yeah, suck it, Canada! U-S-A U-S-A

    ;)

    Also does anyone else read HFD's handle as "Huge Freakin Dillon"? No? That's just me? Yikes.
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    Jason P wrote:
    polaris_x wrote:
    as i keep saying ... race issues in the US are deteriorating ... but like everything else - let's just chant 3 letters and all will be good ...
    Until the day that NFL stadium's fans are throwing bananas and making monkey noises at players with dark-toned skin and have neo-nazi sections in the stands, I think we are leagues ahead of most the world in race relations.

    not in the 1st world.
    From what I've seen on European and Russian soccer coverage, yes we are.
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Jason P wrote:
    polaris_x wrote:
    as i keep saying ... race issues in the US are deteriorating ... but like everything else - let's just chant 3 letters and all will be good ...
    Until the day that NFL stadium's fans are throwing bananas and making monkey noises at players with dark-toned skin and have neo-nazi sections in the stands, I think we are leagues ahead of most the world in race relations.

    :fp:

    and this is why it will only get worse ... let's just point to where its shit elsewhere so we can ignore what's clearly in front of us ...
  • Jason P wrote:
    From what I've seen on European and Russian soccer coverage, yes we are.


    well I don't tend to base my knowledge of global social norms on sporting events.
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    Jason P wrote:
    From what I've seen on European and Russian soccer coverage, yes we are.


    well I don't tend to base my knowledge of global social norms on sporting events.
    it's just good science :geek: ;)
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    polaris_x wrote:
    and this is why it will only get worse ... let's just point to where its shit elsewhere so we can ignore what's clearly in front of us ...
    as in the knockout game? A handfull of people get knocked out and it's a sign of racial war?

    An electrician I work with lived on 8-mile as a kid during the Detroit race riots. His dad gave him a steel rod to hide up his sleeve for protection when he sent him off to school. That was late 60's. To say we are regressing is nuts.

    (edit: maybe using a city that currently needs an actual robocop isn't the perfect example ... :think:)
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,088
    Using statistics that show blacks are disproportionately represented in prisons isn't evidence that they are equally disproportionately violent. Let's think some more about the numbers.
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