Television host Melissa Bachman’s boast about lion kill ...

lukin2006

Television host Melissa Bachman’s boast about lion kill on Twitter sparks outrage


http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/11/16 ... s-outrage/

mary justice

Its called a badge of honor in... " MERICA"....

SVRDhand13

She is a disgusting person and I'm happy to see people are outraged over this.

unsung

I'll kill for two reasons, to put food on the table and to defend our lives and property.

I think killing for sport is disgusting.

brianlux

unsung wrote:

I'll kill for two reasons, to put food on the table and to defend our lives and property.

I think killing for sport is disgusting.

I agree with you two out of three which for you 'n me ain't bad. I would never kill for property. Why do that?

Smellyman

What a beautiful animal....now dead.


May your gun jam next time....

Last-12-Exit

"You didn't kill a lion, you stood behind a machine and pulled a little trigger. You sad, pathetic excuse for a human being."

I don't think I can add anything better than that.

unsung

brianlux wrote:

I agree with you two out of three which for you 'n me ain't bad. I would never kill for property. Why do that?

I'd consider myself someone who is prepared for most issues, and I've spent a lot of time and money in order to be. If a natural disaster hit I would help, I believe in giving until it hurts, but people will not take because they were lazy and didn't have their families put in the best situation that they could be. I'd help as much as I could if I were asked to, but I will not give anything up by force.

I've had friends say that they will just come to my house if there were an emergency, and I've told them that they will go away with what their hands could carry. Harsh? Yep. Unfortunately I can't feed the world and I can't help those that refused to help themselves when they had the time, resources, and means to do so. This isn't Hotel Unsung.

backseatLover12

SVRDhand13 wrote:

She is a disgusting person and I'm happy to see people are outraged over this.

Me, too. Her way of bragging on social media certainly turned on her and it's nice to see that. FB and Twitter are nothing more machines to brag about ourselves.

And what is that she's wearing? Bling necklace? While killing a lion in Africa? Really??

brianlux

unsung wrote:

brianlux wrote:

I agree with you two out of three which for you 'n me ain't bad. I would never kill for property. Why do that?

I'd consider myself someone who is prepared for most issues, and I've spent a lot of time and money in order to be. If a natural disaster hit I would help, I believe in giving until it hurts, but people will not take because they were lazy and didn't have their families put in the best situation that they could be. I'd help as much as I could if I were asked to, but I will not give anything up by force.

I've had friends say that they will just come to my house if there were an emergency, and I've told them that they will go away with what their hands could carry. Harsh? Yep. Unfortunately I can't feed the world and I can't help those that refused to help themselves when they had the time, resources, and means to do so. This isn't Hotel Unsung.

When you said you would kill for property I assumed you meant that if you caught someone trying to steal (for example) your car you would kill them. But it seems what you are talking about is an end of the world scenario where someone is trying to take that which sustains you. So you were talking about apples and I was talking about oranges. But don't worry, I'm not going to try to steal your car to see if you really would try to kill me over it.

As for the end of the world scenario, people who band together cooperatively will be more likely to survive in the long run. I'd suggest expanding your circle of friends to people who will work with you, not just take from you. Just a thought. Those are the kind of people I keep in my circle.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

unsung wrote:

brianlux wrote:

I agree with you two out of three which for you 'n me ain't bad. I would never kill for property. Why do that?

I'd consider myself someone who is prepared for most issues, and I've spent a lot of time and money in order to be. If a natural disaster hit I would help, I believe in giving until it hurts, but people will not take because they were lazy and didn't have their families put in the best situation that they could be. I'd help as much as I could if I were asked to, but I will not give anything up by force.

I've had friends say that they will just come to my house if there were an emergency, and I've told them that they will go away with what their hands could carry. Harsh? Yep. Unfortunately I can't feed the world and I can't help those that refused to help themselves when they had the time, resources, and means to do so. This isn't Hotel Unsung.

Unsung, in the most respectful way I can think to say... I think you need to balance your preparation for the end of the world with some semblance of appreciating and respecting the now. It would be unfortunate for you if the end of the world doesn't occur in your lifetime with such energy spent getting ready for it.

Now with that said... if the end of the world does present itself... I'm coming over. I'll bring the Swiss army knife I carry in my golf bag, my 4 iron, my kids, maaaayyyybe my wife, and a bag of cheezies.

badbrains

They should feed that C/NT BAG to the lions! Disgraceful piece of shit. And then to brag about it, wow.

polaris_x

this is our prevailing attitude towards nature ... conquer vs. nurture ... i kind of put people who seek to climb everest in a similar position ... anything to satisfy their ego and appetite to dominate ...

hedonist

polaris_x wrote:

this is our prevailing attitude towards nature ... conquer vs. nurture ... i kind of put people who seek to climb everest in a similar position ... anything to satisfy their ego and appetite to dominate ...

I don't know...climbing a mountain is (aside from the sherpas, who I assume are there of their own free will) about yourself only. Strength, endurance, mental will - call it ego-stroking but at least it doesn't take anyone else out with you, if you fail.

It's not something I'd attempt, but I can understand the desire to make that climb - surpassing your own expectations. Triumphing over our own (perceived) weaknesses.

Totally different from shooting an animal for the hell of it.

Plus, I see us - humans - trying to conquer nature on a daily basis (or maybe it's trying to live within it, to understand we are part of it).

chadwick

this fucking bitch should be eaten by a lion pride

lukin2006

hedonist wrote:

polaris_x wrote:

this is our prevailing attitude towards nature ... conquer vs. nurture ... i kind of put people who seek to climb everest in a similar position ... anything to satisfy their ego and appetite to dominate ...

I don't know...climbing a mountain is (aside from the sherpas, who I assume are there of their own free will) about yourself only. Strength, endurance, mental will - call it ego-stroking but at least it doesn't take anyone else out with you, if you fail.

It's not something I'd attempt, but I can understand the desire to make that climb - surpassing your own expectations. Triumphing over our own (perceived) weaknesses.

Totally different from shooting an animal for the hell of it.

Plus, I see us - humans - trying to conquer nature on a daily basis (or maybe it's trying to live within it, to understand we are part of it).

I think its harmful ... harmful to mountain and the environment around, apparantley hikers have left tons of garbage on this mountain.

lukin2006

Record 8 tons of trash cleared from Everest

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news ... sh-cleared

the article os a couple years old ...

lukin2006

The big problem ... she is doing for no other reason than to kill this lion for her ego ... and to me I find it problematic when well to do people have nothing better to do with their money than go on these expensive safari's ... why not take that money and donate to an african charity ...

hedonist

lukin2006 wrote:

hedonist wrote:

polaris_x wrote:

this is our prevailing attitude towards nature ... conquer vs. nurture ... i kind of put people who seek to climb everest in a similar position ... anything to satisfy their ego and appetite to dominate ...

I don't know...climbing a mountain is (aside from the sherpas, who I assume are there of their own free will) about yourself only. Strength, endurance, mental will - call it ego-stroking but at least it doesn't take anyone else out with you, if you fail.

It's not something I'd attempt, but I can understand the desire to make that climb - surpassing your own expectations. Triumphing over our own (perceived) weaknesses.

Totally different from shooting an animal for the hell of it.

Plus, I see us - humans - trying to conquer nature on a daily basis (or maybe it's trying to live within it, to understand we are part of it).

I think its harmful ... harmful to mountain and the environment around, apparantley hikers have left tons of garbage on this mountain.

I was speaking more to the act of the climb itself, the desire for it...but this littering nonsense, I absolutely do not condone.

chadwick

if you hike everest you had better take out more trash than what you brought in, this means you should remove trash brought up by others.

killing a innocent lion while on safari w/ your big gun for shits & giggles is not at all equal to mountain climbing

chadwick

so this friggin bitch kills zebra & lion & who knows what else she has blew away w/ her big badass gun. she may infact die slowly from colon or breast cancer. oneday this sort of murdering of animals may very well be full on illegal.

in my eyes/in my mind this broad should serve a life sentence in some nasty penitentiary. ted nugent is serving time there as well. nugent has killed big cats, zebra, bear, rhinoceros & giraffe

when you kill giraffe you have serious mental problems... & im not talking about african tribal spear fuckers running through the bush w/ zero shoes on either who are trying to feed their tribes... multi millionaire safari jack offs should be boiled in their own pudding

polaris_x

hedonist wrote:

I don't know...climbing a mountain is (aside from the sherpas, who I assume are there of their own free will) about yourself only. Strength, endurance, mental will - call it ego-stroking but at least it doesn't take anyone else out with you, if you fail.

It's not something I'd attempt, but I can understand the desire to make that climb - surpassing your own expectations. Triumphing over our own (perceived) weaknesses.

Totally different from shooting an animal for the hell of it.

Plus, I see us - humans - trying to conquer nature on a daily basis (or maybe it's trying to live within it, to understand we are part of it).

i'm talking about climbing everest specifically ... and you're wrong in assuming it doesn't take anyone with you ... the sherpas that risk their lives, the rescue people, even other climbers ... and also, what does it say about humanity - when people can easily walk past somebody who's dying just so they can reach the top of the mountain ...

it's strictly ego and it's about conquering ...

Thirty Bills Unpaid

polaris_x wrote:

hedonist wrote:

I don't know...climbing a mountain is (aside from the sherpas, who I assume are there of their own free will) about yourself only. Strength, endurance, mental will - call it ego-stroking but at least it doesn't take anyone else out with you, if you fail.

It's not something I'd attempt, but I can understand the desire to make that climb - surpassing your own expectations. Triumphing over our own (perceived) weaknesses.

Totally different from shooting an animal for the hell of it.

Plus, I see us - humans - trying to conquer nature on a daily basis (or maybe it's trying to live within it, to understand we are part of it).

i'm talking about climbing everest specifically ... and you're wrong in assuming it doesn't take anyone with you ... the sherpas that risk their lives, the rescue people, even other climbers ... and also, what does it say about humanity - when people can easily walk past somebody who's dying just so they can reach the top of the mountain ...

it's strictly ego and it's about conquering ...

Sherpas are exploited. They do the dirty work.

The mountain is exploited: climbers shit and piss all over the place and they leave their garbage because they are too weak to carry it back with them.

Climbing the high altitude mountains is ruthless: with only a narrow window to summit... climbers routinely trudge past fallen climbers to have their picture taken at the peak of the mountain.

unsung

Kind of getting off topic but Into Thin Air and also Dark Summit are two Everest must reads.

hedonist

Is it only Everest or other challenging treks, like Kilimajaro?

My point was that much we do is propelled by ego. I get the related risks, but view mountain-climbing (perhaps we should put hikers and mountain-scalers in the same ego-driven boat? plus many other activities) as vastly different than hunting an animal for the sport of it.

chadwick

climbing everest is not equal to shooting a lion

swimming cuba to florida is conquering that body of water called the strait of florida
that isn't equal to harpooning a sperm whale

unsung

brianlux wrote:

unsung wrote:

brianlux wrote:

I agree with you two out of three which for you 'n me ain't bad. I would never kill for property. Why do that?

I'd consider myself someone who is prepared for most issues, and I've spent a lot of time and money in order to be. If a natural disaster hit I would help, I believe in giving until it hurts, but people will not take because they were lazy and didn't have their families put in the best situation that they could be. I'd help as much as I could if I were asked to, but I will not give anything up by force.

I've had friends say that they will just come to my house if there were an emergency, and I've told them that they will go away with what their hands could carry. Harsh? Yep. Unfortunately I can't feed the world and I can't help those that refused to help themselves when they had the time, resources, and means to do so. This isn't Hotel Unsung.

When you said you would kill for property I assumed you meant that if you caught someone trying to steal (for example) your car you would kill them. But it seems what you are talking about is an end of the world scenario where someone is trying to take that which sustains you. So you were talking about apples and I was talking about oranges. But don't worry, I'm not going to try to steal your car to see if you really would try to kill me over it.

As for the end of the world scenario, people who band together cooperatively will be more likely to survive in the long run. I'd suggest expanding your circle of friends to people who will work with you, not just take from you. Just a thought. Those are the kind of people I keep in my circle.

I have a select few that are in that circle, but not many.

I thought about what you asked me and right now I'm dealing with work colleagues who have had their homes destroyed by the Illinois tornado. So he comes crawling out of his basement to find his house in shambles, quite possibly lucky to be alive, and I wonder what if.

What if people started looting? Do you let them take what's left of your life? Or do you stop them? The police can't be everywhere.

unsung

hedonist wrote:

Is it only Everest or other challenging treks, like Kilimajaro?

My point was that much we do is propelled by ego. I get the related risks, but view mountain-climbing (perhaps we should put hikers and mountain-scalers in the same ego-driven boat? plus many other activities) as vastly different than hunting an animal for the sport of it.

Ok, I can't tell if this is sarcasm but Kilimanjaro is nothing like Everest.

hedonist

unsung wrote:

hedonist wrote:

Is it only Everest or other challenging treks, like Kilimajaro?

My point was that much we do is propelled by ego. I get the related risks, but view mountain-climbing (perhaps we should put hikers and mountain-scalers in the same ego-driven boat? plus many other activities) as vastly different than hunting an animal for the sport of it.

Ok, I can't tell if this is sarcasm but Kilimanjaro is nothing like Everest.

No, it was an honest question. I know Everest is considered quite brutal, but my knowledge about mounts in general/as a whole is limited.

chadwick

climbing hills or mountains is not equal at all to murdering lions

Thirty Bills Unpaid

unsung wrote:

Kind of getting off topic but Into Thin Air and also Dark Summit are two Everest must reads.

Two great books.