How About a Pearl Jam Obscure Fact Repository

Ledbetterman10

pleatherman said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Anyway, here's what we got so far:

-Do The Evolution: Jeff doesn't play
-No Way: Jeff doesn't play
-I Got Shit: Jeff, Mike and Stone don't play
-Long Road: Mike and Stone don't play.
-Soon Forget: Eddie only
-Arc: Eddie only
-Bee Girl: Eddie and Jeff only
-Dead Man: Eddie and Jeff only
-Footsteps: Eddie and Stone only
-Angel: Eddie and Dave only
-Pendulum: Mike doesn't play
-Driftin': Eddie and Stone (maybe) only
-Strangest Tribe: Eddie and Stone only (from same day as Driftin')
-Satan's Bed: Dave isn't playing. His drum tech Jimmy Shoaf is
-Rock Around Barack: Eddie doesn't play
-Master/Slave: Eddie, Jeff, and Rick Parashar only (with Tim Palmer on fire extinguisher and pepper shaker?)
-Gremmie Out of Control: Brendan O'Brien on lead guitar, Mike and Stone on rhythm 
-Aye Davanita: Per pleatherman, Dave A. posted on his Facebook that he plays bass and guitar on this. 


Looking for confirmations on:

Jeremy: I read somewhere (or I totally made up) that either Mike or Stone isn't on the track.
Yellow Ledbetter: Does Stone play?
Stupid Mop: Definitely Eddie, Jeff, and Jack. But do Stone and/or Mike play?
Bugs: Who's making all the sounds that aren't the accordion?

Happy to see this thread pop back up. Anyone ever come up with the correct instrumentation for Jeremy, YLB, Gremmie, Foxymop, and Bugs?

Based on accounts from band members, neither Stone or Mike play any guitar on Gremmie.  Lost Dogs credits Mike on guitar but the notes for that album are chock full of mistakes.  B O'B is the only guitar player for that song.  Stone shines on background vocals to make up for the fact he was unable to learn the complex guitar parts.  And I believe Mike's only contribution was discovering the original record by the Silly Surfers.

Yeah that's right. I think we actually discussed this earlier in the thread. But that was years ago lol.

Any updates on Jeremy or YLB?

pleatherman

Ledbetterman10 said:

pleatherman said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Anyway, here's what we got so far:

-Do The Evolution: Jeff doesn't play
-No Way: Jeff doesn't play
-I Got Shit: Jeff, Mike and Stone don't play
-Long Road: Mike and Stone don't play.
-Soon Forget: Eddie only
-Arc: Eddie only
-Bee Girl: Eddie and Jeff only
-Dead Man: Eddie and Jeff only
-Footsteps: Eddie and Stone only
-Angel: Eddie and Dave only
-Pendulum: Mike doesn't play
-Driftin': Eddie and Stone (maybe) only
-Strangest Tribe: Eddie and Stone only (from same day as Driftin')
-Satan's Bed: Dave isn't playing. His drum tech Jimmy Shoaf is
-Rock Around Barack: Eddie doesn't play
-Master/Slave: Eddie, Jeff, and Rick Parashar only (with Tim Palmer on fire extinguisher and pepper shaker?)
-Gremmie Out of Control: Brendan O'Brien on lead guitar, Mike and Stone on rhythm 
-Aye Davanita: Per pleatherman, Dave A. posted on his Facebook that he plays bass and guitar on this. 


Looking for confirmations on:

Jeremy: I read somewhere (or I totally made up) that either Mike or Stone isn't on the track.
Yellow Ledbetter: Does Stone play?
Stupid Mop: Definitely Eddie, Jeff, and Jack. But do Stone and/or Mike play?
Bugs: Who's making all the sounds that aren't the accordion?

Happy to see this thread pop back up. Anyone ever come up with the correct instrumentation for Jeremy, YLB, Gremmie, Foxymop, and Bugs?

Based on accounts from band members, neither Stone or Mike play any guitar on Gremmie.  Lost Dogs credits Mike on guitar but the notes for that album are chock full of mistakes.  B O'B is the only guitar player for that song.  Stone shines on background vocals to make up for the fact he was unable to learn the complex guitar parts.  And I believe Mike's only contribution was discovering the original record by the Silly Surfers.

Yeah that's right. I think we actually discussed this earlier in the thread. But that was years ago lol.

Any updates on Jeremy or YLB?

Oh thats funny!  I must be in rerun mode.  I am not certain about the other ones.  

Looking at that list, a couple alterations can be made.  

Tim Palmer used the pepper shaker and extinguisher on Oceans, not Master/Slave.  

But Parashar definitely programmed keyboards on Master/Slave.
If we decide to trust Lost Dogs, then Dead Man also features Jack on percussion.

And more can always be added.  The End and Future Days do not feature the other band members.  Just Eddie Horst's mini-orchestra on the former, while Future Days casts Brendan O'Brien on piano plus violinist Ann Marie Calhoun.
Also, there is no Stone on You Are.  That's all Matt.

pleatherman

An unknown song was taken off the final tracklisting for Lightning Bolt because, in Ed's opinion, it sounded too much like Journey.  Which is as good of a reason as any.

pleatherman

While the rest of future PJ members were already playing in bands and booking shows in the early ‘80s, Stone got a late start, but more then made up for lost time.  Following a failed attempt at joining a band in high school as a mandolin player, he pursued brief stints in the Ducky Boys (as bassist) and March of Crimes.  However, Ducky Boys had a singer who would not sing and Stone never played live with March of Crimes so he designates Green River as the first band he truly belonged in.  Not long after, he became their chief songwriter.  Subsequent to the breakup, MLB channeled his prolific output further.  And in 1990, Stone’s riffs laid the groundwork to allow Pearl Jam’s formation.

But there is always a beginning.  Some particular instance demarcates Stone from the guitarist who did not feel ready to play at Green River’s first show into, as Matt refers to him, the “riff-meister” we know today.  For a musical artist, that transformation must have occurred with the inception of his first original composition.  In Stone’s own words “… my first song in a band was ‘Come on Down’, and I wrote the lyrics and music.”*  That song happens to be the first (and title) track on the debut album of those “grunge” pioneers, Green River.  So if Neil Young has been cast as the godfather of grunge, then Stone can bask in being his godson!

*Oddly, the album credits Mark Arm with lyrics and music co-written by Stone and Jeff.  But liner notes have proven dubious at times, and Stone hasn't shown to take undue credit.

pleatherman

The Show Must (but maybe not) Go On

Utilizing a report filed by Paul Wertheimer, a self-proclaimed concert safety watchdog, the San Diego County Sheriff’s department managed to compel Pearl Jam to cancel their June 26-27 dates at Del Mar Fairgrounds.  Wertheimer was at it again the following month in advance of Pearl Jam’s show at Soldier’s Field.  He contacted city officials, spoke with numerous media outlets, and even wrote the mayor of Chicago a letter deploring the hazards of a general admission floor show.  This time, nobody caved and the legendary show played on.  That did not prevent Wertheimer from proceeding to show up at the concert to launch his own investigation.  He was soon evicted during Bad Religion’s opening set for supposedly pushing and harassing people.  Not long afterwards, the police arrested him on battery charges for allegedly assaulting Pearl Jam’s tour manager, Eric Johnson.  Kelly Curtis has a balanced take on the whole scenario. 

"It seemed like he was out to get us. . . . He may be on this mission for the good of everybody, and his intentions may be right, but he's certainly doing it in a very wrong way.  We spend a lot of time making sure everybody's treated well and nobody gets hurt," he says. "We do padded barriers, there's a lot of water and medical {personnel}, people who come over the barriers are handled gently. . . . {Vocalist} Eddie {Vedder} has stopped a show many, many times if he thought people were getting hurt."  

So while Wertheimer is by no means a nefarious villain, he certainly lacked credibility, especially 5 years later when he quickly asserted Pearl Jam shared responsibility for the tragedy at the Roskilde Festival.

Trace back to late 1991 with the Red Hot Chili Peppers, Smashing Pumpkins, and Pearl Jam tour.  Promoters wanted to replace Pearl Jam with a bigger act.  Anthony Kiedis decided that act should be Nirvana.  So PJ was asked to leave in favor of Nirvana.  For personal reasons (it’s not hard to figure out), Billy Corgan did not wish to share a bill with Nirvana, so SP opted out of the remainder dates.  This worked to Pearl Jam’s advantage and they accepted an invitation to finish out the tour.  Just think, if events played out as originally planned, the New Year’s Eve concert at the Cow Palace would never have happened for PJ.  But judging by the picture of Eddie enjoying one of the Peppers’ shows, I would not be surprised if he found some way to be there regardless.

Other times, Pearl Jam became the driving force behind a proposed cancellation.  Fast forward almost seven years, the Red Hot Chili Peppers and Pearl Jam (together again) are scheduled to play the Tibetan Freedom Concert a day apart.  A thunderstorm crashed down before the Chili Peppers’ set.  After lightning struck an audience member, the remainder of the day’s events were cancelled.  As a result, RHCP found themselves crossed out of the festivities all together.  The next night’s headliners were Pearl Jam and Eddie threatened to pull out of the show unless they were allowed to share their slot with the Chili Peppers.  Thankfully, the organizers relented.

Then there was the incident which unfolded after the 07/21/98 show at Memorial Stadium in Seattle.  A heat wave ruined the sound that day and Vedder’s ire was directed at Karrie Keyes, their monitor engineer.  She recounts “There was nothing I could do because of the heat, and after every song he bitched at me about it. I was done with it”.  At the end of the show, she told Eddie “‘I’m fucking done, I quit.”  A message was quickly relayed to Karrie that the band would not play a show without her.  When the dust settled, she received quite a substantial raise out of it!  

pleatherman

Across the decades, Ed shared the stage many memorable times with his musical hero, Pete Townshend.  Astonishingly, this letter served as a catalyst for their first performance together.

euchrid

Posted this in response to a FB post questioning the "fad" of vinyl and thought this might be obscure enough to post here: Part of the story in relation to Pearl Jam at least, and why they always stuck with vinyl even when it was not a "fad" for most bands, is that CDs and other digital media degrade over time. It can sit on a shelf and not be played and eventually will be useless. Vinyl does not do this as is it physical. Someone can probably recall the article and quote (from Ed I believe) but one reason the band chose to keep releasing vinyl is that the Smithsonian uses vinyl for their collection of music for this very reason. If it is good enough for the Smithsonian and all...

redmosquito84

pleatherman said:

While on the subject of Vitalogy, this is the original Frontline special “A Matter of the Mind” from 1986 that Eddie sampled to create the foundation for Stupid Mop.  To match some faces to familiar voices, start around 29:10.  Also skip to 38:24 for the song title.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R18bky9RRXs

This entire thread is amazing so thank you for sharing the knowledge!

This is completely unrelated to PJ but I watched the clips about Nancy from the Frontline episode and became incredibly sad for her. Does anyone know what happened to her since 1986?

pleatherman

Just learned a fun fact from reading 'Total F*cking Godhead:  The Biography of Chris Cornell'.  Turns out, one of my all-time favorite Soundgarden songs was almost left on the cutting room floor, were it not for the intervention of Studio Litho's owner.  

Here is an excerpt, including a quote from producer, Adam Kasper.

“Tighter & Tighter” proved to be a surprisingly contentious cut. Kim was strongly against including it on Down On The Upside. An outside voice broke the stalemate. “It’s Stone Gossard’s favorite song,” Kasper said. “Stone had mentioned it a few times, so Kim was like ‘Alright, whatever.’ Everyone in Pearl Jam loved that song.”

Spiritual_Chaos

pleatherman said:

Just learned a fun fact from reading 'Total F*cking Godhead:  The Biography of Chris Cornell'.  Turns out, one of my all-time favorite Soundgarden songs was almost left on the cutting room floor, were it not for the intervention of Studio Litho's owner.  

Here is an excerpt, including a quote from producer, Adam Kasper.

“Tighter & Tighter” proved to be a surprisingly contentious cut. Kim was strongly against including it on Down On The Upside. An outside voice broke the stalemate. “It’s Stone Gossard’s favorite song,” Kasper said. “Stone had mentioned it a few times, so Kim was like ‘Alright, whatever.’ Everyone in Pearl Jam loved that song.”

Cool! 

Is the book worth picking up?

pleatherman

Spiritual_Chaos said:

pleatherman said:

Just learned a fun fact from reading 'Total F*cking Godhead:  The Biography of Chris Cornell'.  Turns out, one of my all-time favorite Soundgarden songs was almost left on the cutting room floor, were it not for the intervention of Studio Litho's owner.  

Here is an excerpt, including a quote from producer, Adam Kasper.

“Tighter & Tighter” proved to be a surprisingly contentious cut. Kim was strongly against including it on Down On The Upside. An outside voice broke the stalemate. “It’s Stone Gossard’s favorite song,” Kasper said. “Stone had mentioned it a few times, so Kim was like ‘Alright, whatever.’ Everyone in Pearl Jam loved that song.”

Cool! 

Is the book worth picking up?

It was a nice read, especially considering there are not many books dedicated to Chris Cornell or Soundgarden.  After the childhood stuff, each chapter revolves around a single album and accompanying tour, developing a broad retrospective of Cornell's career.  Although the book contains some exclusive interviews with record producers and video directors, the author relies heavily on previously published articles for quotes from his closest collaborators.  He admits in the introduction that legal issues surrounding Chris' estate prevented a host of others from sharing their stories, which is a bummer.  

A diehard fan might not learn much new info.  This is not an in-depth tome on Chris Cornell or his bands.  But unlike many other biographies strung together from old interviews, this does not read like some haphazard cash grab.  The admiration and love of the subject's work is very apparent in the writing.

lastexitlondon

I will buy this book.
Released sept 3rd in uk. 
I love Chris and look forward to this book.

AlwaysKeepItLoaded

Not sure if this was posted already, but Comatose was almost called Crapshoot Rapture. 

- source - PJ 20 book

-Buru-

Amazing thread.

Ledbetterman10

So here's the latest incarnation of the "songs everyone doesn't play on" list now with guest appearances added (not counting Boom who obviously plays keys on several tracks from 2002-onward), and tracks where the band members don't play their usual instruments. Feel free to add to it or correct it. Especially you @pleatherman

-Do The Evolution: Jeff doesn't play (Stone on bass)
-No Way: Jeff doesn't play (Stone on bass)
-I Got Shit: Jeff, Mike and Stone don't play (Neil Young on guitar, Brendan O'Brien on bass)
-Long Road: Mike and Stone don't play. (Neil Young on pump organ)
-Soon Forget: Eddie only
-2,000 Mile Blues: Stone doesn't play (per the liner notes, he was at the dentist). 
-Jeremy: Walter Gray on cello, Rick Parashar on hammond organ
-Better Man: Stone on mellotron
-Sometimes: Mike on piano
-Around The Bend: Brendan O'Brien on piano
-Arc: Eddie only
-Bee Girl: Eddie and Jeff only
-Dead Man: Eddie and Jeff only
-Footsteps: Eddie and Stone only
-Stupid Mop: Eddie, Jeff, and Jack only (I think)
-Angel: Eddie and Dave only
-Smile: Jeff on guitar, Stone on bass
-Pendulum: Mike doesn't play
-Driftin': Eddie and Stone (maybe) only
-Strangest Tribe: Eddie and Stone only (from same day as Driftin')
-Satan's Bed: Dave isn't playing. His drum tech Jimmy Shoaf is
-Rock Around Barack: Eddie doesn't play
-Master/Slave: Eddie, Jeff, and Rick Parashar only (Rick on programmed keyboards)
-Gremmie Out of Control: Brendan O'Brien on guitar, Mike and Stone don't play
-Aye Davanita: Per pleatherman, Dave posted on his Facebook that he plays bass and guitar on this. 
-You Are: Stone doesn't play (Matt on rhythm guitar) 
-Parting Ways: April Cameron on Viola, Justine Foy on Cello
-Rival: Mitchell Froom on keyboards
-Oceans: Tim Palmer on pepper shaker and fire extinguisher
-Just Breathe/The End: Richard Deane, Danny Laufer, Bruce Andrus, Justin Bruns, Cathy Lynn, Christopher Pulgram, Susan Welty (strings/brass)
-Backspacer tracks with keys: Brendan O'Brien
-Future Days: Brendan O'Brien on keys
-Lighting Bolts tracks with strings: Ann Marie Calhoun
-My Father's Son: Mike on six-string bass

Gigaton instrumentation per wikipedia:
-Jeff: bass guitar, keyboards and guitar on "Dance of the Clairvoyants" and "Quick Escape", drum loop on "Quick Escape", keyboards on "Alright" and "Seven O'Clock", Mbira on "Alright" and "River Cross", programming on "Seven O'Clock", piano on "Buckle Up"
-Matt: drums, drum programming on "Dance of the Clairvoyants", guitar on "Alright" and "Take the Long Way", vocals and programming on "Take the Long Way", 
-Stone: guitar, bass on "Dance of the Clairvoyants", percussion on "Buckle Up", vocals on "Buckle Up", keyboards on "Retrograde", 
-Mike: guitar, percussion on "Dance of the Clairvoyants", keyboards on "Retrograde", 
-Eddie: lead vocals, guitar, keyboards on "Seven O'Clock", pump organ on "River Cross",
-Brendan O'Brien – keyboards on "Quick Escape" and "Retrograde"
-Josh Evans – keyboards on "Superblood Wolfmoon", "Never Destination", "Buckle Up" and "River Cross", drum programming on "Alright"

Still not sure if Stone plays on Yellow Ledbetter. I can't really hear second guitar. Also not sure who's playing what on Bugs besides Eddie on accordion. And anyone that wants to break down the specific Backspacer and Lightning Bolt tracks that O'Brien and Calhoun play on, please do. 

pleatherman

Ledbetterman10 said:

So here's the latest incarnation of the "songs everyone doesn't play on" list now with guest appearances added (not counting Boom who obviously plays keys on several tracks from 2002-onward), and tracks where the band members don't play their usual instruments. Feel free to add to it or correct it. Especially you @pleatherman

-Do The Evolution: Jeff doesn't play (Stone on bass)
-No Way: Jeff doesn't play (Stone on bass)
-I Got Shit: Jeff, Mike and Stone don't play (Neil Young on guitar, Brendan O'Brien on bass)
-Long Road: Mike and Stone don't play. (Neil Young on pump organ)
-Soon Forget: Eddie only
-2,000 Mile Blues: Stone doesn't play (per the liner notes, he was at the dentist). 
-Jeremy: Walter Gray on cello, Rick Parashar on hammond organ
-Better Man: Stone on mellotron
-Sometimes: Mike on piano
-Around The Bend: Brendan O'Brien on piano
-Arc: Eddie only
-Bee Girl: Eddie and Jeff only
-Dead Man: Eddie and Jeff only
-Footsteps: Eddie and Stone only
-Stupid Mop: Eddie, Jeff, and Jack only (I think)
-Angel: Eddie and Dave only
-Smile: Jeff on guitar, Stone on bass
-Pendulum: Mike doesn't play
-Driftin': Eddie and Stone (maybe) only
-Strangest Tribe: Eddie and Stone only (from same day as Driftin')
-Satan's Bed: Dave isn't playing. His drum tech Jimmy Shoaf is
-Rock Around Barack: Eddie doesn't play
-Master/Slave: Eddie, Jeff, and Rick Parashar only (Rick on programmed keyboards)
-Gremmie Out of Control: Brendan O'Brien on guitar, Mike and Stone don't play
-Aye Davanita: Per pleatherman, Dave posted on his Facebook that he plays bass and guitar on this. 
-You Are: Stone doesn't play (Matt on rhythm guitar) 
-Parting Ways: April Cameron on Viola, Justine Foy on Cello
-Rival: Mitchell Froom on keyboards
-Oceans: Tim Palmer on pepper shaker and fire extinguisher
-Just Breathe/The End: Richard Deane, Danny Laufer, Bruce Andrus, Justin Bruns, Cathy Lynn, Christopher Pulgram, Susan Welty (strings/brass)
-Backspacer tracks with keys: Brendan O'Brien
-Future Days: Brendan O'Brien on keys
-Lighting Bolts tracks with strings: Ann Marie Calhoun
-My Father's Son: Mike on six-string bass

Gigaton instrumentation per wikipedia:
-Jeff: bass guitar, keyboards and guitar on "Dance of the Clairvoyants" and "Quick Escape", drum loop on "Quick Escape", keyboards on "Alright" and "Seven O'Clock", Mbira on "Alright" and "River Cross", programming on "Seven O'Clock", piano on "Buckle Up"
-Matt: drums, drum programming on "Dance of the Clairvoyants", guitar on "Alright" and "Take the Long Way", vocals and programming on "Take the Long Way", 
-Stone: guitar, bass on "Dance of the Clairvoyants", percussion on "Buckle Up", vocals on "Buckle Up", keyboards on "Retrograde", 
-Mike: guitar, percussion on "Dance of the Clairvoyants", keyboards on "Retrograde", 
-Eddie: lead vocals, guitar, keyboards on "Seven O'Clock", pump organ on "River Cross",
-Brendan O'Brien – keyboards on "Quick Escape" and "Retrograde"
-Josh Evans – keyboards on "Superblood Wolfmoon", "Never Destination", "Buckle Up" and "River Cross", drum programming on "Alright"

Still not sure if Stone plays on Yellow Ledbetter. I can't really hear second guitar. Also not sure who's playing what on Bugs besides Eddie on accordion. And anyone that wants to break down the specific Backspacer and Lightning Bolt tracks that O'Brien and Calhoun play on, please do. 

I only heard Stone's Gigaton Track-by Track show once, but I recall him speaking about struggling to find a place in Take the Long Way.  Perhaps he did not contribute to that track at all.  Then again, my memory is fuzzy, so maybe someone else has a better recollection, or access to that radio special?

I am also not certain if Stone plays on Yellow Ledbetter.  A little off topic, but that particular studio take predates the recording of Ten.  Yellow Ledbetter (or Yellow Letter as it was originally called) was made back in January '91.  Quite possible it was even culled from the same session as the songs on the Alive promo EP (Jan. 29, 1991).

Ledbetterman10

pleatherman said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

So here's the latest incarnation of the "songs everyone doesn't play on" list now with guest appearances added (not counting Boom who obviously plays keys on several tracks from 2002-onward), and tracks where the band members don't play their usual instruments. Feel free to add to it or correct it. Especially you @pleatherman

-Do The Evolution: Jeff doesn't play (Stone on bass)
-No Way: Jeff doesn't play (Stone on bass)
-I Got Shit: Jeff, Mike and Stone don't play (Neil Young on guitar, Brendan O'Brien on bass)
-Long Road: Mike and Stone don't play. (Neil Young on pump organ)
-Soon Forget: Eddie only
-2,000 Mile Blues: Stone doesn't play (per the liner notes, he was at the dentist). 
-Jeremy: Walter Gray on cello, Rick Parashar on hammond organ
-Better Man: Stone on mellotron
-Sometimes: Mike on piano
-Around The Bend: Brendan O'Brien on piano
-Arc: Eddie only
-Bee Girl: Eddie and Jeff only
-Dead Man: Eddie and Jeff only
-Footsteps: Eddie and Stone only
-Stupid Mop: Eddie, Jeff, and Jack only (I think)
-Angel: Eddie and Dave only
-Smile: Jeff on guitar, Stone on bass
-Pendulum: Mike doesn't play
-Driftin': Eddie and Stone (maybe) only
-Strangest Tribe: Eddie and Stone only (from same day as Driftin')
-Satan's Bed: Dave isn't playing. His drum tech Jimmy Shoaf is
-Rock Around Barack: Eddie doesn't play
-Master/Slave: Eddie, Jeff, and Rick Parashar only (Rick on programmed keyboards)
-Gremmie Out of Control: Brendan O'Brien on guitar, Mike and Stone don't play
-Aye Davanita: Per pleatherman, Dave posted on his Facebook that he plays bass and guitar on this. 
-You Are: Stone doesn't play (Matt on rhythm guitar) 
-Parting Ways: April Cameron on Viola, Justine Foy on Cello
-Rival: Mitchell Froom on keyboards
-Oceans: Tim Palmer on pepper shaker and fire extinguisher
-Just Breathe/The End: Richard Deane, Danny Laufer, Bruce Andrus, Justin Bruns, Cathy Lynn, Christopher Pulgram, Susan Welty (strings/brass)
-Backspacer tracks with keys: Brendan O'Brien
-Future Days: Brendan O'Brien on keys
-Lighting Bolts tracks with strings: Ann Marie Calhoun
-My Father's Son: Mike on six-string bass

Gigaton instrumentation per wikipedia:
-Jeff: bass guitar, keyboards and guitar on "Dance of the Clairvoyants" and "Quick Escape", drum loop on "Quick Escape", keyboards on "Alright" and "Seven O'Clock", Mbira on "Alright" and "River Cross", programming on "Seven O'Clock", piano on "Buckle Up"
-Matt: drums, drum programming on "Dance of the Clairvoyants", guitar on "Alright" and "Take the Long Way", vocals and programming on "Take the Long Way", 
-Stone: guitar, bass on "Dance of the Clairvoyants", percussion on "Buckle Up", vocals on "Buckle Up", keyboards on "Retrograde", 
-Mike: guitar, percussion on "Dance of the Clairvoyants", keyboards on "Retrograde", 
-Eddie: lead vocals, guitar, keyboards on "Seven O'Clock", pump organ on "River Cross",
-Brendan O'Brien – keyboards on "Quick Escape" and "Retrograde"
-Josh Evans – keyboards on "Superblood Wolfmoon", "Never Destination", "Buckle Up" and "River Cross", drum programming on "Alright"

Still not sure if Stone plays on Yellow Ledbetter. I can't really hear second guitar. Also not sure who's playing what on Bugs besides Eddie on accordion. And anyone that wants to break down the specific Backspacer and Lightning Bolt tracks that O'Brien and Calhoun play on, please do. 

I only heard Stone's Gigaton Track-by Track show once, but I recall him speaking about struggling to find a place in Take the Long Way.  Perhaps he did not contribute to that track at all.  Then again, my memory is fuzzy, so maybe someone else has a better recollection, or access to that radio special?

I am also not certain if Stone plays on Yellow Ledbetter.  A little off topic, but that particular studio take predates the recording of Ten.  Yellow Ledbetter (or Yellow Letter as it was originally called) was made back in January '91.  Quite possible it was even culled from the same session as the songs on the Alive promo EP (Jan. 29, 1991).

Is this the recording you’re referring to? 

https://youtu.be/DYaK0YiDSzM

And if so, I thought this was recorded with the mookie demos in October 1990. If not, do you have a copy of the recording you’re talking about?

pleatherman

Ledbetterman10 said:

pleatherman said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

So here's the latest incarnation of the "songs everyone doesn't play on" list now with guest appearances added (not counting Boom who obviously plays keys on several tracks from 2002-onward), and tracks where the band members don't play their usual instruments. Feel free to add to it or correct it. Especially you @pleatherman

-Do The Evolution: Jeff doesn't play (Stone on bass)
-No Way: Jeff doesn't play (Stone on bass)
-I Got Shit: Jeff, Mike and Stone don't play (Neil Young on guitar, Brendan O'Brien on bass)
-Long Road: Mike and Stone don't play. (Neil Young on pump organ)
-Soon Forget: Eddie only
-2,000 Mile Blues: Stone doesn't play (per the liner notes, he was at the dentist). 
-Jeremy: Walter Gray on cello, Rick Parashar on hammond organ
-Better Man: Stone on mellotron
-Sometimes: Mike on piano
-Around The Bend: Brendan O'Brien on piano
-Arc: Eddie only
-Bee Girl: Eddie and Jeff only
-Dead Man: Eddie and Jeff only
-Footsteps: Eddie and Stone only
-Stupid Mop: Eddie, Jeff, and Jack only (I think)
-Angel: Eddie and Dave only
-Smile: Jeff on guitar, Stone on bass
-Pendulum: Mike doesn't play
-Driftin': Eddie and Stone (maybe) only
-Strangest Tribe: Eddie and Stone only (from same day as Driftin')
-Satan's Bed: Dave isn't playing. His drum tech Jimmy Shoaf is
-Rock Around Barack: Eddie doesn't play
-Master/Slave: Eddie, Jeff, and Rick Parashar only (Rick on programmed keyboards)
-Gremmie Out of Control: Brendan O'Brien on guitar, Mike and Stone don't play
-Aye Davanita: Per pleatherman, Dave posted on his Facebook that he plays bass and guitar on this. 
-You Are: Stone doesn't play (Matt on rhythm guitar) 
-Parting Ways: April Cameron on Viola, Justine Foy on Cello
-Rival: Mitchell Froom on keyboards
-Oceans: Tim Palmer on pepper shaker and fire extinguisher
-Just Breathe/The End: Richard Deane, Danny Laufer, Bruce Andrus, Justin Bruns, Cathy Lynn, Christopher Pulgram, Susan Welty (strings/brass)
-Backspacer tracks with keys: Brendan O'Brien
-Future Days: Brendan O'Brien on keys
-Lighting Bolts tracks with strings: Ann Marie Calhoun
-My Father's Son: Mike on six-string bass

Gigaton instrumentation per wikipedia:
-Jeff: bass guitar, keyboards and guitar on "Dance of the Clairvoyants" and "Quick Escape", drum loop on "Quick Escape", keyboards on "Alright" and "Seven O'Clock", Mbira on "Alright" and "River Cross", programming on "Seven O'Clock", piano on "Buckle Up"
-Matt: drums, drum programming on "Dance of the Clairvoyants", guitar on "Alright" and "Take the Long Way", vocals and programming on "Take the Long Way", 
-Stone: guitar, bass on "Dance of the Clairvoyants", percussion on "Buckle Up", vocals on "Buckle Up", keyboards on "Retrograde", 
-Mike: guitar, percussion on "Dance of the Clairvoyants", keyboards on "Retrograde", 
-Eddie: lead vocals, guitar, keyboards on "Seven O'Clock", pump organ on "River Cross",
-Brendan O'Brien – keyboards on "Quick Escape" and "Retrograde"
-Josh Evans – keyboards on "Superblood Wolfmoon", "Never Destination", "Buckle Up" and "River Cross", drum programming on "Alright"

Still not sure if Stone plays on Yellow Ledbetter. I can't really hear second guitar. Also not sure who's playing what on Bugs besides Eddie on accordion. And anyone that wants to break down the specific Backspacer and Lightning Bolt tracks that O'Brien and Calhoun play on, please do. 

I only heard Stone's Gigaton Track-by Track show once, but I recall him speaking about struggling to find a place in Take the Long Way.  Perhaps he did not contribute to that track at all.  Then again, my memory is fuzzy, so maybe someone else has a better recollection, or access to that radio special?

I am also not certain if Stone plays on Yellow Ledbetter.  A little off topic, but that particular studio take predates the recording of Ten.  Yellow Ledbetter (or Yellow Letter as it was originally called) was made back in January '91.  Quite possible it was even culled from the same session as the songs on the Alive promo EP (Jan. 29, 1991).

Is this the recording you’re referring to? 

https://youtu.be/DYaK0YiDSzM

And if so, I thought this was recorded with the mookie demos in October 1990. If not, do you have a copy of the recording you’re talking about?

The recording I am referring to is the standard version that wound up on the Jeremy single.  It was originally slated for release on the Even Flow single.  I used the notebook from the Ten Super-Deluxe as my source.
According to Jeff, the song's development kind of got left by the wayside.  This might explain why the words are sometimes non-sensical.  Later, the lyrics were published for the live version of YL included on the Daughter single.

pleatherman

Rather than being crushed by the music industry, or any industry for that matter, Pearl Jam strove early on to become a self-sustaining business entity.  As their musical catalog has grown, their business ventures also extended.  Physically, the companies are all housed at PJ headquarters.  Turns out its existence caters to more than a rehearsal space, studio, and Ten Club warehouse.  Several names are familiar, like Monkeywrench, Vitalogy Foundation, or Mike’s record label, HockeyTalkter.  Also, it is no surprise Ed’s clothing line, Seattle Surf Co. belongs to this location.  Others are less recognizable.  Panda Bear 71 LLC is the company Jeff created to launch RNDM’s first album.  A couple of businesses in Stone’s name, Howyadoing, Inc. and Dust Ripple Music, are infinitesimal, with no releases I could find attached to them.

The most curious one is deke River.  Classified for merchandise, the company was deemed important enough for its logo to adorn the entrance of Pearl Jam's building.  Yet, no products were ever issued under that name, to my knowledge.  The highest claim for notoriety came in the form of a Record Store Day EP by Soundgarden.  King Animal Demos hit shelves in 2013.  It is well known Soundgardern utilized PJ’s rehearsal space after regrouping to practice and flesh out new material.  Instead of crediting the Pearl Jam warehouse as the location for some of the recordings included on the EP, they chose to appropriate another, and dubbed it Deke River Studio.

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pleatherman said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

pleatherman said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

So here's the latest incarnation of the "songs everyone doesn't play on" list now with guest appearances added (not counting Boom who obviously plays keys on several tracks from 2002-onward), and tracks where the band members don't play their usual instruments. Feel free to add to it or correct it. Especially you @pleatherman

-Do The Evolution: Jeff doesn't play (Stone on bass)
-No Way: Jeff doesn't play (Stone on bass)
-I Got Shit: Jeff, Mike and Stone don't play (Neil Young on guitar, Brendan O'Brien on bass)
-Long Road: Mike and Stone don't play. (Neil Young on pump organ)
-Soon Forget: Eddie only
-2,000 Mile Blues: Stone doesn't play (per the liner notes, he was at the dentist). 
-Jeremy: Walter Gray on cello, Rick Parashar on hammond organ
-Better Man: Stone on mellotron
-Sometimes: Mike on piano
-Around The Bend: Brendan O'Brien on piano
-Arc: Eddie only
-Bee Girl: Eddie and Jeff only
-Dead Man: Eddie and Jeff only
-Footsteps: Eddie and Stone only
-Stupid Mop: Eddie, Jeff, and Jack only (I think)
-Angel: Eddie and Dave only
-Smile: Jeff on guitar, Stone on bass
-Pendulum: Mike doesn't play
-Driftin': Eddie and Stone (maybe) only
-Strangest Tribe: Eddie and Stone only (from same day as Driftin')
-Satan's Bed: Dave isn't playing. His drum tech Jimmy Shoaf is
-Rock Around Barack: Eddie doesn't play
-Master/Slave: Eddie, Jeff, and Rick Parashar only (Rick on programmed keyboards)
-Gremmie Out of Control: Brendan O'Brien on guitar, Mike and Stone don't play
-Aye Davanita: Per pleatherman, Dave posted on his Facebook that he plays bass and guitar on this. 
-You Are: Stone doesn't play (Matt on rhythm guitar) 
-Parting Ways: April Cameron on Viola, Justine Foy on Cello
-Rival: Mitchell Froom on keyboards
-Oceans: Tim Palmer on pepper shaker and fire extinguisher
-Just Breathe/The End: Richard Deane, Danny Laufer, Bruce Andrus, Justin Bruns, Cathy Lynn, Christopher Pulgram, Susan Welty (strings/brass)
-Backspacer tracks with keys: Brendan O'Brien
-Future Days: Brendan O'Brien on keys
-Lighting Bolts tracks with strings: Ann Marie Calhoun
-My Father's Son: Mike on six-string bass

Gigaton instrumentation per wikipedia:
-Jeff: bass guitar, keyboards and guitar on "Dance of the Clairvoyants" and "Quick Escape", drum loop on "Quick Escape", keyboards on "Alright" and "Seven O'Clock", Mbira on "Alright" and "River Cross", programming on "Seven O'Clock", piano on "Buckle Up"
-Matt: drums, drum programming on "Dance of the Clairvoyants", guitar on "Alright" and "Take the Long Way", vocals and programming on "Take the Long Way", 
-Stone: guitar, bass on "Dance of the Clairvoyants", percussion on "Buckle Up", vocals on "Buckle Up", keyboards on "Retrograde", 
-Mike: guitar, percussion on "Dance of the Clairvoyants", keyboards on "Retrograde", 
-Eddie: lead vocals, guitar, keyboards on "Seven O'Clock", pump organ on "River Cross",
-Brendan O'Brien – keyboards on "Quick Escape" and "Retrograde"
-Josh Evans – keyboards on "Superblood Wolfmoon", "Never Destination", "Buckle Up" and "River Cross", drum programming on "Alright"

Still not sure if Stone plays on Yellow Ledbetter. I can't really hear second guitar. Also not sure who's playing what on Bugs besides Eddie on accordion. And anyone that wants to break down the specific Backspacer and Lightning Bolt tracks that O'Brien and Calhoun play on, please do. 

I only heard Stone's Gigaton Track-by Track show once, but I recall him speaking about struggling to find a place in Take the Long Way.  Perhaps he did not contribute to that track at all.  Then again, my memory is fuzzy, so maybe someone else has a better recollection, or access to that radio special?

I am also not certain if Stone plays on Yellow Ledbetter.  A little off topic, but that particular studio take predates the recording of Ten.  Yellow Ledbetter (or Yellow Letter as it was originally called) was made back in January '91.  Quite possible it was even culled from the same session as the songs on the Alive promo EP (Jan. 29, 1991).

Is this the recording you’re referring to? 

https://youtu.be/DYaK0YiDSzM

And if so, I thought this was recorded with the mookie demos in October 1990. If not, do you have a copy of the recording you’re talking about?

The recording I am referring to is the standard version that wound up on the Jeremy single.  It was originally slated for release on the Even Flow single.  I used the notebook from the Ten Super-Deluxe as my source.
According to Jeff, the song's development kind of got left by the wayside.  This might explain why the words are sometimes non-sensical.  Later, the lyrics were published for the live version of YL included on the Daughter single.

I got ya. I didn't get the Super-Deluxe version of Ten.