How About a Pearl Jam Obscure Fact Repository

Ray J. T.

HesCalledDyer said:

Well, I dunno. At one of the shows I saw in 06 or 08, I don't recall which one at the moment... Ed changed the lyric in Given to Fly to "made it to the ocean, smoked a joint in a tree." And last year in Cincinnati he told a story centered around his joint being bogarted. A lot more obvious than a split second utterance on an album track that can barely be heard.

Sung the lyrics just like that in 08 in Boston. Phenomenal 2 night run in Boston.

PJfanwillneverleave1

Spiritual_Chaos said:

pleatherman said:

Interviewer: (Is Pearl Jam) learning the Neil Young songbook?

Young: We won’t do any of the old ones... The way it’ll work is they’ll do Eddie’s songs and then they’ll do my songs. Sometimes I sing some of Eddie’s songs, and sometimes he sings on my songs. There’s a long way that it could develop.

I swear they mess with us.
My head hurts so much trying to understand what he means by that.

Spiritual_Chaos

pleatherman said:

There are also ones that, for one reason or another, stalled out (Martin Scorsese was contacted to work with the band in '93).

Fan. Istället för Scorcese 1993 fick vi Crowes The Fixer video 2009........

FoxyRedLa

I can delete this out if it doesn't fit here.

Did Ed go by Vedders? Typo? Lol is his last name really Vedders?


Pearl Jam - Much Music Spotlight, 1992 1/3: http://youtu.be/4XUPLR0zYO8

Massara133

FoxyRedLa said:

I can delete this out if it doesn't fit here.

Did Ed go by Vedders? Typo? Lol is his last name really Vedders?


Pearl Jam - Much Music Spotlight, 1992 1/3: http://youtu.be/4XUPLR0zYO8

Ahhh, Muchmusic, my lifeline for music growing up in Canada. In addition to PJ being highlighted in the "Labatt Blue Spotlight" they also (Stone and Ed) hosted the "Pepsi Power Hour" once. Pretty sure that's what the second half of that clip was with the Ed interview.

And I'm pretty sure Vedders was just a typo

Sarah

Massara133 said:

FoxyRedLa said:

I can delete this out if it doesn't fit here.

Did Ed go by Vedders? Typo? Lol is his last name really Vedders?


Pearl Jam - Much Music Spotlight, 1992 1/3: http://youtu.be/4XUPLR0zYO8

Ahhh, Muchmusic, my lifeline for music growing up in Canada. In addition to PJ being highlighted in the "Labatt Blue Spotlight" they also (Stone and Ed) hosted the "Pepsi Power Hour" once. Pretty sure that's what the second half of that clip was with the Ed interview.

And I'm pretty sure Vedders was just a typo

Never heard about Stone and Ed hosting "Power Hour" back in the day. Amazing! I *must* see this!

DM282158

Best thread I've come across yet! Great, great stuff

pleatherman

Here are the names of some original songs by Eddie.  At least the first title, I assume, seems to indicate it was written for Into the Wild.  

RUBBERTRAMP

TRANSIT

REEL BOW PART 1

REEL BOW PART 2

SPACE BUNK PART 1

SPACE BUNK PART 2

Those were found on the Universal Music Publishing Group website.  This source also uncovered writing credits for a couple Pearl Jam songs that previously alluded me.

Chinese

written by Stone

Olé

music-Jeff

words- Eddie

Ledbetterman10

Some Billboard records.....

-Vs. sold the most copies ever in an album's first week (later broken by Eminem's Marshall Mathers LP I believe)

-Vitalogy was released on vinyl two weeks before the CD and sold 34,000 copies...by far the most sales of vinyl record since the advent of CD until Jack White surpassed it with his second album Lazeretto

-Most albums to debut on the chart at once (Nine of the U.S. Bootlegs from the 2000 tour)

HesCalledDyer

Ledbetterman10 said:

Some Billboard records.....

-Vs. sold the most copies ever in an album's first week (later broken by Eminem's Marshall Mathers LP I believe)

-Vitalogy was released on vinyl two weeks before the CD and sold 34,000 copies...by far the most sales of vinyl record since the advent of CD until Jack White surpassed it with his second album Lazeretto

-Most albums to debut on the chart at once (Nine of the U.S. Bootlegs from the 2000 tour)

Was broken by Backstreet Boys Millenium in 1999, then again in 2000 by N*Sync's No Strings Attached (a record that still stands).  The Marshall Mathers LP did indeed outsell Vs in it's first week and could have held the record, but N*Sync was released just a couple months prior.

Sidenote: Adele's 25 outsold N*Sync (by a lot!) but that includes digital sales.  The aforementioned are based on pure physical sales numbers.

Ledbetterman10

HesCalledDyer said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Some Billboard records.....

-Vs. sold the most copies ever in an album's first week (later broken by Eminem's Marshall Mathers LP I believe)

-Vitalogy was released on vinyl two weeks before the CD and sold 34,000 copies...by far the most sales of vinyl record since the advent of CD until Jack White surpassed it with his second album Lazeretto

-Most albums to debut on the chart at once (Nine of the U.S. Bootlegs from the 2000 tour)

Was broken by Backstreet Boys Millenium in 1999, then again in 2000 by N*Sync's No Strings Attached (a record that still stands).  The Marshall Mathers LP did indeed outsell Vs in it's first week and could have held the record, but N*Sync was released just a couple months prior.

Sidenote: Adele's 25 outsold N*Sync (by a lot!) but that includes digital sales.  The aforementioned are based on pure physical sales numbers.

I knew this....but didn't want to acknowledge the Backstreet Boys or N Sync so I just skipped them and went right to Eminem.

Hate to say it, but I think a Limp Bizkit album might have also outdone Vs. in the first week.

HesCalledDyer

Ledbetterman10 said:

HesCalledDyer said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Some Billboard records.....

-Vs. sold the most copies ever in an album's first week (later broken by Eminem's Marshall Mathers LP I believe)

-Vitalogy was released on vinyl two weeks before the CD and sold 34,000 copies...by far the most sales of vinyl record since the advent of CD until Jack White surpassed it with his second album Lazeretto

-Most albums to debut on the chart at once (Nine of the U.S. Bootlegs from the 2000 tour)

Was broken by Backstreet Boys Millenium in 1999, then again in 2000 by N*Sync's No Strings Attached (a record that still stands).  The Marshall Mathers LP did indeed outsell Vs in it's first week and could have held the record, but N*Sync was released just a couple months prior.

Sidenote: Adele's 25 outsold N*Sync (by a lot!) but that includes digital sales.  The aforementioned are based on pure physical sales numbers.

I knew this....but didn't want to acknowledge the Backstreet Boys or N Sync so I just skipped them and went right to Eminem.

Hate to say it, but I think a Limp Bizkit album might have also outdone Vs. in the first week.

Can't blame ya!  It made me sick to my stomach that boy bands outdid them.  I refused to acknowledge them back then.  I think you're right about Limp Bizkit, too.  I don't even think Vs is in the top 20 anymore.  All kinds of 50 Cent and Britney Spears and Usher in there now.  And digital sales have definitely pushed them out.  I think Taylor swift has three albums in the top 15 herself.  Ugh!

And if I'm not mistaken, Vs. broke the record held by Led Zeppelin's In Through The Out Door (1979), although this was alleged sales as Nielsen SoundScan didn't begin tracking album sales until 1991.

pleatherman

Anyone that has checked out the Pearl Jam exhibit at MoPOP probably realized the visual appearance of the ‘Momma Son’ cassette does not match the replica included in the Ten Super Deluxe box set.  Instead, the replica is actually an amalgam of ‘Momma Son’ and the ‘Crazy Eddie V’ demo.  Both were sent to Jeff and Stone in September 1990.  Currently sitting side by side at MoPOP in Seattle, it is apparent the white cassette assigned “For Stone + Jeff” is the ‘Crazy Eddie V’ tape while the clear cassette labelled Momma Son, which also makes a cameo in PJ20, is the real McCoy.  The band chose to combine the ‘Crazy Eddie V’ white cassette and artwork along with the original Momma Son cover art to create the facsimile found in the Super Deluxe Ten reissue.  Who knows why?  One reason could be if the real Momma Son cassette was replicated, then Ed’s old phone number would be on the back of each one.

I often wondered why the ‘Crazy Eddie V’ demo, described as original songs by Eddie, is often glossed over during most analyses of Pearl Jam’s origin.  While ‘Momma Son’ includes the first Pearl Jam recordings and showcases Eddie as a masterful lyricist and vocalist, the ‘Crazy Eddie V’ tape establishes him as a true songwriter.  Also, the Eddie demo tape serves as a musical introduction to his future bandmates as described by Jeff, "And then uh, he sent a tape of some home recordings that he had done, which were pretty cool, just him and an acoustic guitar. And then about a week later, he sent up a tape that had Once, Alive and Footsteps on it."  Both demos taken together reveal Eddie Vedder as a full-fledged musical artist.  

The ‘Crazy Eddie V’ tape is also an important part of Pearl Jam history as it pertains to the band’s creative evolution.  Ed’s role from frontman to a more dominating presence as songwriter can signify an abrupt mutation to the band’s identity.  But once the ‘C.E.V.’ demo is taken into account, it is apparent Eddie’s musical acumen was built into Pearl Jam’s DNA from the beginning.

Ten may have only presented a single Vedder composition, Porch, but the album was created so soon within the band’s infancy, and a good portion of the music predates the group’s formation.  Ten was, in some ways, an excuse to tour.  It wasn’t long before Ed’s songwriting prowess came to the forefront.  Although only two songs by him made it onto Vs. he contributed a total of six.  In addition to RVM and Elderly Woman, Whipping and Better Man were also recorded.  And the unreleased “I Won’t’ and ‘Black Eye’ also came into fruition during those sessions.  That turns out to be the same number of songs he wrote for Vitalogy.

Despite that most of the songwriting credit is bestowed on all five members for the 2nd and 3rd albums, it is generally easy to figure out which ones Eddie wrote based on whether he is featured on guitar for its performance.  And if there was any doubt, look no further then the composition book in the Vs./Vitalogy box set for the liner notes Ed hand wrote for Vitalogy.  Upon close inspection, Eddie initially credits himself for the music on Not For You, Whipping, Corduroy, Better Man, and Immortality.  It appears he subsequently wrote “Band” over “EV” on the credits for all except Better Man.  Why it was decided to extend credit on those other four songs remains a mystery.

While on the subject of Vitalogy, this is the original Frontline special “A Matter of the Mind” from 1986 that Eddie sampled to create the foundation for Stupid Mop.  To match some faces to familiar voices, start around 29:10.  Also skip to 38:24 for the song title.

https://youtu.be/lKXjFE7gEEo

pleatherman

It is widely known Pearl Jam members take on aliases for album concept credits. For example, Jerome Turner= Eddie Vedder on No Code. And Carpenter Newton= Stone Gossard for Yield. Eddie and Stone, respectively, take their middle name and use it for the assumed identity’s first name. What might be less known is the method to generate the remainder of the pseudonym. They utilize a formula similar to determining one’s soap opera or porn star name. To achieve that, the phony last name is fashioned from the street you grew up on. We know Stone’s childhood street, based on Ed’s joke about the “Newton Street Boys” at the Home Show last year. Thanks to Google Earth, Turner Avenue is found in Encinitas, CA although I have no idea if that was Eddie’s street. By far, my favorite is Jeff, who came up with the album concept for Riot Act. Hailing from Big Sandy, MT, the town was so small his street did not even have a name. Which is why the album concept is by Al Nostreet.

pjhawks

the original name of the file transfer program 'Dropbox' was  Even Flow as the originator is a huge PJ fan. And PJ at one time made an investment in Dropbox

pleatherman

Plenty of PJ tunes have changed titles prior to winding up on record.  'Force of Nature' (Distant Planet) and 'Aye Davanita' (African Groove) come to mind.  Even an early Mookie show lists 'Porch' as 'This Could Be' on the set list.  The original title for 'Army Reserve' was called 'Geronimo' as revealed in a funny anecdote by Brad Klausen, excerpted below.

Interviewer:  Eddie Vedder likes to have input in his poster designs, has he ever asked for your input into his music?

Brad:  Ha!.. No he hasn’t. There was one day when we were laying out the album art for the avocado album, and Ed and Jeff were in my office. One of the songs on that album, Army Reserve, was originally called Geronimo… I mentioned that Geronimo was a much better song title then Army Reserve, and Ed, in a joking, sarcastic way said “Yeah, sorry we didn’t call you about that.” That’s the most input I’ve ever attempted to have.

JPPJ84

Just spent an hour reading this excellent thread! Now I’m wondering if they could do the acoustic Copenhagen set next year... will have to take this question to the tour thread

pleatherman

Some notes on Aye Davanita
Although Dave Abbruzzese is only credited with the drum kit for Vitalogy, he recently posted on Facebook he played the bass and main guitar lines on Aye Davanita.  
The Vitalogy booklet lists Aye Davanita as The Song Without Words.  Incidentally,  an early draft of the liner notes credits Stone with the words.  So lets give credit where credit is due!
"Awooh...aye davanita...awooh...awooha...
Jahooh...jahooh...
Awooh...aye davanita...awooh...awooha..."

Ledbetterman10

Ledbetterman10 said:

Anyway, here's what we got so far:

-Do The Evolution: Jeff doesn't play
-No Way: Jeff doesn't play
-I Got Shit: Jeff, Mike and Stone don't play
-Long Road: Mike and Stone don't play.
-Soon Forget: Eddie only
-Arc: Eddie only
-Bee Girl: Eddie and Jeff only
-Dead Man: Eddie and Jeff only
-Footsteps: Eddie and Stone only
-Angel: Eddie and Dave only
-Pendulum: Mike doesn't play
-Driftin': Eddie and Stone (maybe) only
-Strangest Tribe: Eddie and Stone only (from same day as Driftin')
-Satan's Bed: Dave isn't playing. His drum tech Jimmy Shoaf is
-Rock Around Barack: Eddie doesn't play
-Master/Slave: Eddie, Jeff, and Rick Parashar only (with Tim Palmer on fire extinguisher and pepper shaker?)
-Gremmie Out of Control: Brendan O'Brien on lead guitar, Mike and Stone on rhythm 
-Aye Davanita: Per pleatherman, Dave A. posted on his Facebook that he plays bass and guitar on this. 


Looking for confirmations on:

Jeremy: I read somewhere (or I totally made up) that either Mike or Stone isn't on the track.
Yellow Ledbetter: Does Stone play?
Stupid Mop: Definitely Eddie, Jeff, and Jack. But do Stone and/or Mike play?
Bugs: Who's making all the sounds that aren't the accordion?

Happy to see this thread pop back up. Anyone ever come up with the correct instrumentation for Jeremy, YLB, Gremmie, Foxymop, and Bugs?

pleatherman

Ledbetterman10 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Anyway, here's what we got so far:

-Do The Evolution: Jeff doesn't play
-No Way: Jeff doesn't play
-I Got Shit: Jeff, Mike and Stone don't play
-Long Road: Mike and Stone don't play.
-Soon Forget: Eddie only
-Arc: Eddie only
-Bee Girl: Eddie and Jeff only
-Dead Man: Eddie and Jeff only
-Footsteps: Eddie and Stone only
-Angel: Eddie and Dave only
-Pendulum: Mike doesn't play
-Driftin': Eddie and Stone (maybe) only
-Strangest Tribe: Eddie and Stone only (from same day as Driftin')
-Satan's Bed: Dave isn't playing. His drum tech Jimmy Shoaf is
-Rock Around Barack: Eddie doesn't play
-Master/Slave: Eddie, Jeff, and Rick Parashar only (with Tim Palmer on fire extinguisher and pepper shaker?)
-Gremmie Out of Control: Brendan O'Brien on lead guitar, Mike and Stone on rhythm 
-Aye Davanita: Per pleatherman, Dave A. posted on his Facebook that he plays bass and guitar on this. 


Looking for confirmations on:

Jeremy: I read somewhere (or I totally made up) that either Mike or Stone isn't on the track.
Yellow Ledbetter: Does Stone play?
Stupid Mop: Definitely Eddie, Jeff, and Jack. But do Stone and/or Mike play?
Bugs: Who's making all the sounds that aren't the accordion?

Happy to see this thread pop back up. Anyone ever come up with the correct instrumentation for Jeremy, YLB, Gremmie, Foxymop, and Bugs?

Based on accounts from band members, neither Stone or Mike play any guitar on Gremmie.  Lost Dogs credits Mike on guitar but the notes for that album are chock full of mistakes.  B O'B is the only guitar player for that song.  Stone shines on background vocals to make up for the fact he was unable to learn the complex guitar parts.  And I believe Mike's only contribution was discovering the original record by the Silly Surfers.