By my humble opinion..There are 6 GREAT bands of all time

PJStatTracker

jumbojet wrote:

If you happen to go through Moscow, let me take you to a few record stores and compare PF and LZ stands and the Beatles stand.

So are you saying that you think Pink Floyd and Zeppelin outsell the Beatles?

hrd2imgn

Michael Jackson is not a band

jumbojet

DewieCox wrote:

I can kinda see your point that Zeppelin and Floyd sounds less dated, but that really has to do with the huge leaps in production that happened between their runs and is largely a consequence of paths that the Beatles, and really all 3 bands blazed.

OK, if Beatles music is still so relevant, do you think what Paul McCartney or John Lennon put out after Beatles were the same as Beatles music? I listened to Paul McCartney in Sandy concert and it wasn't Beatles music. (although he has played Beatles song, if I remember correctly) He did stuff with ex-Nirvana members instead of playing Obladi-Oblada. That is because you cannot capture today's listeners by sticking only to what Beatles did.

Compare it to Robert Plant or Roger Waters solo work. Their music weren't much different in the style from their bands. They didn't have to add anything new.

jumbojet

brianlux wrote:

The Beatles were my favorite group for about two months in 1964. That's it. But to say they are irrelevant today would... ...well that would... ... I mean really...

That means Beatles is irrelevant to you today. Already for about 50 years. Why do you think it should be different for the rest of the world?

jumbojet

PJStatTracker wrote:

jumbojet wrote:

If you happen to go through Moscow, let me take you to a few record stores and compare PF and LZ stands and the Beatles stand.

So are you saying that you think Pink Floyd and Zeppelin outsell the Beatles?

I don't have such figures. I thought you are the stats guy.

PJStatTracker

jumbojet wrote:

PJStatTracker wrote:

jumbojet wrote:

If you happen to go through Moscow, let me take you to a few record stores and compare PF and LZ stands and the Beatles stand.

So are you saying that you think Pink Floyd and Zeppelin outsell the Beatles?

I don't have such figures. I thought you are the stats guy.

Just wanted to see how deep you are into your bottle of vodka.

DewieCox

jumbojet wrote:

DewieCox wrote:

I can kinda see your point that Zeppelin and Floyd sounds less dated, but that really has to do with the huge leaps in production that happened between their runs and is largely a consequence of paths that the Beatles, and really all 3 bands blazed.

OK, if Beatles music is still so relevant, do you think what Paul McCartney or John Lennon put out after Beatles were the same as Beatles music? I listened to Paul McCartney in Sandy concert and it wasn't Beatles music. (although he has played Beatles song, if I remember correctly) He did stuff with ex-Nirvana members instead of playing Obladi-Oblada. That is because you cannot capture today's listeners by sticking only to what Beatles did.

Compare it to Robert Plant or Roger Waters solo work. Their music weren't much different in the style from their bands. They didn't have to add anything new.

He also sells out stadiums playing probably 75% Beatles songs. What them relevant is people are still taking musical ideas that they popularized and being very successful with it.

Robert Plants solo work is maybe rooted in the same place as some more traditional sounding Zep stuff, but it's still pretty different sounding.

The fact that you think they lack relevance simply b/c you don't think they're relevant prove one thing and that's that you are pretty out of touch.

jumbojet

PJStatTracker wrote:

Just wanted to see how deep you are into your bottle of vodka.

That is what I'm saying. I cannot think of myself, already for 20 years, opening a cold liquor, turning off the lights and putting on Please Please me album with all the kid music in it. If you like it, it's fine. I'll leave that to my daughter when she's growing. (except the liquor part hopefully)

PJStatTracker

jumbojet wrote:

PJStatTracker wrote:

Just wanted to see how deep you are into your bottle of vodka.

That is what I'm saying. I cannot think of myself, already for 20 years, opening a cold liquor, turning off the lights and putting on Please Please me album with all the kid music in it. If you like it, it's fine. I'll leave that to my daughter when she's growing. (except the liquor part hopefully)

Right. We all understand that you personally do not like them that much.

But in a conversation about relevance, whether or not you would enjoy a cold one while listening to Please Please Me is pretty meaningless. But the fact that you have an endless supply of Beatles references on the tip of your tongue says a lot.

Looks like there was an artist who outsold the Beatles in the US from 2000-2010, though...anyone want to take a guess on who it was?? HINT: it's not PJ.

rtwilli4

EdsonNascimento wrote:

Other than U2 sucking and the Dead being hit or miss depending on the night and what drugs you were on, that's a fantastic list. Oh, and any greatest list that doesn't include The Who is automatically null and void. So, other than you completely missing, you did a great job!

My thoughts exactly!

EdsonNascimento

Wait. So this thread actually turned into a debate of how great the Beatles are (or I guess aren't )? I think there's someone in this thread that needs to sit down, put on head phones and have the White Album, Seargent Peppers, Abbey Road, Revolver, Rubber Soul and Let Ot Be played over and over again.

Every single band that plays today wishes they had 1 album in their catalog of the quality and diversity of just those 6 albums. And they only have about a dozen more and all in like a 8 year period.

Someone actually thinks they aren't up to today's standards? Well, then I don't need those standards. I will gladly go rogue.

As far as Macca and Lennons solo stuff.... Really? Are you kidding? Imagine, Wings over America... All I will say is there is no band or songwriters that have ever played or written music that have a quarter of what The Beatles have.

And they are not even my favorite band. Rant done.

Edit: I can't let go of the being listened to today. Can anyone name 1 album put out in the last 5 years that measures up to any of the 6 I named? And I mean in current musical listening terms (whatever the hell that means).

jumbojet

DewieCox wrote:

He also sells out stadiums playing probably 75% Beatles songs. What them relevant is people are still taking musical ideas that they popularized and being very successful with it.

Robert Plants solo work is maybe rooted in the same place as some more traditional sounding Zep stuff, but it's still pretty different sounding.

The fact that you think they lack relevance simply b/c you don't think they're relevant prove one thing and that's that you are pretty out of touch.

Maybe you are right and I'm not in touch. Maybe people are more into kid music, than I can imagine.

EdsonNascimento

jumbojet wrote:

DewieCox wrote:

He also sells out stadiums playing probably 75% Beatles songs. What them relevant is people are still taking musical ideas that they popularized and being very successful with it.

Robert Plants solo work is maybe rooted in the same place as some more traditional sounding Zep stuff, but it's still pretty different sounding.

The fact that you think they lack relevance simply b/c you don't think they're relevant prove one thing and that's that you are pretty out of touch.

Maybe you are right and I'm not in touch. Maybe people are more into kid music, than I can imagine.

Yeah Because Helter Skelter is an ez listen tune. This thread has actually turned comical.

jumbojet

EdsonNascimento wrote:

Wait. So this thread actually turned into a debate of how great the Beatles are (or I guess aren't )? I think there's someone in this thread that needs to sit down, put on head phones and have the White Album, Seargent Peppers, Abbey Road, Revolver, Rubber Soul and Let Ot Be played over and over again.

As far as Macca and Lennons solo stuff.... Really? Are you kidding? Imagine, Wings over America... All I will say is there is no band or songwriters that have ever played or written music that have a quarter of what The Beatles have.

And they are not even my favorite band. Rant done.

Edit: I can't let go of the being listened to today. Can anyone name 1 album put out in the last 5 years that measures up to any of the 6 I named? And I mean in current musical listening terms (whatever the hell that means).

That should be me. You got me when you said Abbey Road and White Album but you lost me when you said Rubber Soul. Really? Songs like Michelle, Girl, In my life? Do we really have to worry that in today's world, nobody does this kind of songs?

I understand how Beatles is great, etc… but I don't know what to do with all those songs that I can only define by kid stuff? I do not even know how else they can be defined.

If people like them, think that's the greatest music of all time then be it. I just cannot come to agreement terms with you. Wish yourselves and the kids inside of you a good evening with Obladi-Oblada then. Enjoy.

PS: McCartney's and Lennon's post-Beatles work are out of discussion.

jumbojet

EdsonNascimento wrote:

jumbojet wrote:

Maybe you are right and I'm not in touch. Maybe people are more into kid music, than I can imagine.

Yeah Because Helter Skelter is an ez listen tune. This thread has actually turned comical.

I can count 20 kid songs of Beatles out of my head. If I dig deeper, that would be 50, maybe? What we're gonna do with all those kid songs? Be a 40-year old and jump around the rope?

EdsonNascimento

jumbojet wrote:

EdsonNascimento wrote:

Wait. So this thread actually turned into a debate of how great the Beatles are (or I guess aren't )? I think there's someone in this thread that needs to sit down, put on head phones and have the White Album, Seargent Peppers, Abbey Road, Revolver, Rubber Soul and Let Ot Be played over and over again.

As far as Macca and Lennons solo stuff.... Really? Are you kidding? Imagine, Wings over America... All I will say is there is no band or songwriters that have ever played or written music that have a quarter of what The Beatles have.

And they are not even my favorite band. Rant done.

Edit: I can't let go of the being listened to today. Can anyone name 1 album put out in the last 5 years that measures up to any of the 6 I named? And I mean in current musical listening terms (whatever the hell that means).

That should be me. You got me when you said Abbey Road and White Album but you lost me when you said Rubber Soul. Really? Songs like Michelle, Girl, In my life? Do we really have to worry that in today's world, nobody does this kind of songs?

I understand how Beatles is great, etc… but I don't know what to do with all those songs that I can only define by kid stuff? I do not even know how else they can be defined.

If people like them, think that's the greatest music of all time then be it. I just cannot come to agreement terms with you. Wish yourselves and the kids inside of you a good evening with Obladi-Oblada then. Enjoy.

PS: McCartney's and Lennon's post-Beatles work are out of discussion.

Norwegian Wood, in my life, Nowhere Man... Whatever you look silly.

7777

TK31831 wrote:

'Great' is very difficult to define and these are not necessarily my favorite bands but these bands have been around for a long time and continue to be loved by so many... here goes..

Led Zeppelin
The Rolling Stones
The Beatles
U2
Grateful Dead
Pearl Jam

And by looking at this list, I think it's fair to say that Pearl Jam is the greatest American Rock Band of all time..

Nice list. Even though I don't enjoy every band on it.

NewJPage

jumbojet wrote:

EdsonNascimento wrote:

Wait. So this thread actually turned into a debate of how great the Beatles are (or I guess aren't )? I think there's someone in this thread that needs to sit down, put on head phones and have the White Album, Seargent Peppers, Abbey Road, Revolver, Rubber Soul and Let Ot Be played over and over again.

As far as Macca and Lennons solo stuff.... Really? Are you kidding? Imagine, Wings over America... All I will say is there is no band or songwriters that have ever played or written music that have a quarter of what The Beatles have.

And they are not even my favorite band. Rant done.

Edit: I can't let go of the being listened to today. Can anyone name 1 album put out in the last 5 years that measures up to any of the 6 I named?


And I mean in current musical listening terms (whatever the hell that means).

That should be me. You got me when you said Abbey Road and White Album but you lost me when you said Rubber Soul. Really? Songs like Michelle, Girl, In my life? Do we really have to worry that in today's world, nobody does this kind of songs?

I understand how Beatles is great, etc… but I don't know what to do with all those songs that I can only define by kid stuff? I do not even know how else they can be defined.

If people like them, think that's the greatest music of all time then be it. I just cannot come to agreement terms with you. Wish yourselves and the kids inside of you a good evening with Obladi-Oblada then. Enjoy.

PS: McCartney's and Lennon's post-Beatles work are out of discussion.

In my life is a top 20 song in the history of music

NewJPage

jumbojet wrote:

NewJPage wrote:

jumbojet wrote:

The reason Beatles is not here is they are not relevant anymore. They can be a game-changer at their time but I don't think anyone would think of giving a spin to Yellow Submarine after a good dose of Rearviewmirror.

I nominate this for the "most insane statement in the history of the internet" award

Tnx. I have lots of those, so don't be quick to make that judgement.

Now go give a spin to Porch and then Strawberry fields forever consecutively to enjoy yourself.

Strawberry fields is about 37 times better than porch. Ask Eddie

PH20

TK31831 wrote:

'Great' is very difficult to define and these are not necessarily my favorite bands but these bands have been around for a long time and continue to be loved by so many... here goes..

Led Zeppelin
The Rolling Stones
The Beatles
U2
Grateful Dead
Pearl Jam

And by looking at this list, I think it's fair to say that Pearl Jam is the greatest American Rock Band of all time..

I like a lot of music, but if you switched out Pink Floyd with U2, I would have a hard time arguing with you.

Nice work!!