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Pearl Jam Singer Stops Concert to Push Gun Control
An appalled Infowars reader sent a YouTube clip of Pearl Jam frontman Eddie Vedder taking a break during a recent concert to advocate gun control, citing the tragedy at Sandy Hook as justification for wanting to further infringe on the Second Amendment.
“I had the unfortunate experience of bearing witness to Ed Vedder piss on himself intellectually, advocating taking our guns,” the reader that sent us the video stated.
Speaking in a sermonic manner over soft organ notes, the Seattle songwriter took time out of his band’s setlist last Friday to remind fans at the XL Center in Hartford, Conn., that 20 children perished with no chance of survival at Sandy Hook Elementary school last year.
“…it’s necessary that we continue a discussion to figure out how to unravel the situation where something like that can happen and make sure the odds of it happening again are very slim,” a solemn Vedder told the crowd.
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An appalled Infowars reader sent a YouTube clip of Pearl Jam frontman Eddie Vedder taking a break during a recent concert to advocate gun control, citing the tragedy at Sandy Hook as justification for wanting to further infringe on the Second Amendment.
“I had the unfortunate experience of bearing witness to Ed Vedder piss on himself intellectually, advocating taking our guns,” the reader that sent us the video stated.
Speaking in a sermonic manner over soft organ notes, the Seattle songwriter took time out of his band’s setlist last Friday to remind fans at the XL Center in Hartford, Conn., that 20 children perished with no chance of survival at Sandy Hook Elementary school last year.
“…it’s necessary that we continue a discussion to figure out how to unravel the situation where something like that can happen and make sure the odds of it happening again are very slim,” a solemn Vedder told the crowd.
The rest can be read and commented upon here ---> http://www.infowars.com/eddie-vedder-st ... n-control/
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...LOVE IT!! THANKS ED!!!
Alpine Valley Resort is etched in my brain!!!
I think you have a point -- if someone is determined to break the law, they will, period. At the same time, I think that in this particular case, different laws would have made a difference.
Exactly. Criminals will be criminals. The mentally ill however, might not pursue the theft of a gun if they are unable to buy one at the store. If a background check saves 1 life it's worth it.
totally agree
Alpine Valley Resort is etched in my brain!!!
What happened in Newtown -- I still tear up when I think about it. At the Hartford marathon a few weeks ago there were a bunch of women running in memory of the victims; they each had one of the children's names and pictures on the back of their shirt. There I was at the starting line with a lump in my throat....
On the drive to Hartford last Friday, we were behind a car bearing a bumper sticker that read "Why is it that when someone goes on a shooting spree, the people who didn't do the killing are punished?" This was just past the Newtown exit. :fp: To me, this is symptomatic of a lot of things, most immediately, perhaps, a lack of sensitivity.
Regardless of how I feel about it, Ed did not "stop" the concert; he spoke from the heart, as he and other band members have done in the past. I thought I heard a few people booing -- I don't know, didn't everyone expect Ed would say something about what happened?
Until one of the best people that ever walked on this Earth died as the result of a loaded gun being left where it had no business being.
It was in a kitchen drawer, she reached for a kitchen towel, the gun went off and wreaked havoc on her intestines, her liver, her insides.
She used to tell me how much hated guns, but she loved her husband and I know he loved her.
In my opinion, if you're that into guns, having to store them at a gun range isn't too much to ask.
Nor is accepting background checks or waiting periods TOO much to ask to keep the guns away from mentally unstable people.
PJ: 2011-09-03 2011-09-04
I am hanging in the balance of a perfect finished plan
Like every sparrow falling, like every grain of sand.
but i got to say it..
Loaded gun in a kitchen drawer? not a responsible gun owner.. not even close..
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I agree, but people who have all these "legal" guns think that makes them responsible. It's their right, they're (the guns) all legal.
Seriously, I liken it to pornography, it's an addiction and the more you have or the more you partake, the more important you become. Pathetic.
She was a wonderful person and I will forever be affected by her senseless passing.
Glad I am not in the States.
My wife is from Seattle and her family are a mix of pro-gun and anti-gun advocates.
Arguments and debate on this topic gets no where as pro-gunners always fall back on ridiculous notions such as '2nd amendment', 'I need it for protection against intruders, etc.', 'we need to use guns as a means to protect ourselves from guns' Aaaargh! Does my head in trying understand their rationale.
We live in Australia and I just don't understand the need for them in my day. I do wonder how it must be to live in the mentality of constant fear (even if so slight and unconscious) that a gun owner has. Especially those who carry guns on them during the day. Oh yes please be the hero to stop the 7/11 hold up with your own gun and begin a shoot out.
Are they sussing everyone out? Always on the look out for suspicious behaviour?
All I can say is good luck to all anti-gun advocates. It's a great cause! A cause that people from Australia, New Zealand, UK, Europe all hope swings your way.
Maybe for some.. I like guns and pornography.. maybe in that order.. but I dont feel the need to collect either. both are far from an obsession for me.. But, the little guns and pornography I own all have there place in my life. I think normal people see how an effective tool could help an area of their life, and seek out said tool. for its purpose only.
Guns have a very small, but very useful role in my life when I need them..
Same with porn..
"its better to have a gun and not need it , than to need a gun and not have it"
same could be said for porn, a car, an education, a screwdriver, etc.. they are all just tools..
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The reality is a person is much more likely to harm himself or a loved one by keeping firearms in the house. Gun laws need to change.
Owning a gun doesn't give you any advantage over your enemies. Using your head and educating oneself gives you a much better chance.
And guess what, you're not, nobody is.
I hear ya!
fuck it, I will quote him..
"its a fragile thing"
Abrn Hlls '98 - Clarkston 2 '03 - Grd Rpds '06 - Abrn Hlls '06 - Clvd '10 - PJ20 - Berlin 1+2 '12 - Wrigley '13 - Pitt '13- buff '13- Philly 1+2 '13 - Seattle '13
i 100% believe that citizens need to defend all their constitutional rights to the bitter end as power will always try to usurp more power, and the people must fight to keep every bit of ground that has been gained from those in power throughout history. however, this logic that if someone wants to use or get a gun illegally then they will, so the laws created only hurt law abiding citizens makes no sense to me. you could say the same thing about almost every other kind of law. for instance, drug laws only hurt those who would use drugs responsibly, therefore there should be no laws against drugs; laws regarding child labor only hurt those business owners that would treat their child workers well; drinking and driving, or texting and driving laws only hurt those who would do so responsibly, and so on.
in a society sometimes laws must be created to protect the community, or make it safer; or, to simply state to the entire community that there is a behavior that is considered unacceptable. having any law enacted will not guarantee that no one will now break the law, but it doesn't mean we shouldn't have them.
as i said the argument doesn't make sense to me, maybe someone could elaborate...
-Christopher Walken
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-Stephen Colbert
it is not to protect you, my friend.. it is to protect themselves..
and I enjoy getting my own meat, thank you.. it is the way it has been done in my family for generations.. who are you to say?
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"Just to make it a little harder [to obtain guns]. Not taking away the right."
This kind of sensible statement upsets gun owners? Really? Mind boggling.
Thank you, Ed!
So if its not the guns fault, then its the American's fault? Which would mean Americans are batshit crazy? Wouldn't you rather blame it on the guns?
I tend to agree with gun control. I like the way its done here in Canada. It's not illegal to own guns but there is a fair amount of red tape between you and the gun. It helps weed out the crazies and makes the process long enough that someone can't just walk into a store and back out with a gun....
The stats of gun related deaths in countries with tighter guns controls vs ones with looser guns controls is pretty staggering (at least from what I've read).
If guns are harder to get, people turn to weapons like knives (which I think is the #1 cause of murder up here in Canada). At least you stand a chance at outrunning a knife. It's way harder to outrun a bullet.
Conclusion: You don't have to outlaw guns, but you have to be insane to not have a vetting process that at least attempts to keep them out of the hands of crazies.
"Becoming a Bruce fan is like hitting puberty as a musical fan. It's inevitable." - dcfaithful
Im in Australia and I grew up around guns, my dad has always had them and used them for hunting. It must be nearly 15 years ago now that Australia brought in tighter gun laws outlawing automatic weapons and restricting semi automatic guns among other things. The laws restricted gun owners on what they could and couldn't be in possession of as well as how guns must be housed. (ie; in a gun safe which is locked at all times and ammunition stored in a separate housing). It made people be responsible for their guns and who had access to them.
The restructure of our laws came about after Australia's worst massacres and since the laws have been enforced we have not had another mass killing.
When the laws came into effect my dad had to hand in a couple of semi auto guns ... and many 1000's had to do the same, some of the guns had been in families for a long time ... these people had the option to have the guns disabled and retain ownership of them.
Now my Dad still has guns and he still goes hunting, it hasn't really effected his time as a hunter .... I imagine the US government would also benefit from similar laws.
I don't understand why any one who is not fighting in a war needs a automatic or semi automatic weapon ... take these weapons off the streets and then you stop a large percentage of mass killings
I don't think Ed, PJ (or your government) is talking about taking all guns out of American homes
Welcome to the PJ forum and thank you for very sensible comments!