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Pearl Jam Singer Stops Concert to Push Gun Control

An appalled Infowars reader sent a YouTube clip of Pearl Jam frontman Eddie Vedder taking a break during a recent concert to advocate gun control, citing the tragedy at Sandy Hook as justification for wanting to further infringe on the Second Amendment.

“I had the unfortunate experience of bearing witness to Ed Vedder piss on himself intellectually, advocating taking our guns,” the reader that sent us the video stated.

Speaking in a sermonic manner over soft organ notes, the Seattle songwriter took time out of his band’s setlist last Friday to remind fans at the XL Center in Hartford, Conn., that 20 children perished with no chance of survival at Sandy Hook Elementary school last year.

“…it’s necessary that we continue a discussion to figure out how to unravel the situation where something like that can happen and make sure the odds of it happening again are very slim,” a solemn Vedder told the crowd.

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mary justice

LOVE IT...LOVE IT
...LOVE IT!! THANKS ED!!!

curmudgeoness

I'm torn between not honoring Infowars with a page hit and the desire to post a note of thanks to Ed below the article. :twisted:

klusterfuk

gun control hurts the law abiding owners. bad guys don't give a shit. they will always get their guns. I'm all for background checks and a waiting period but that won't fix the problem.

South of Seattle

curmudgeoness wrote:

I'm torn between not honoring Infowars with a page hit and the desire to post a note of thanks to Ed below the article. :twisted:

That comment section makes YouTube's look mature.

curmudgeoness

klusterfuk wrote:

gun control hurts the law abiding owners. bad guys don't give a shit. they will always get their guns. I'm all for background checks and a waiting period but that won't fix the problem.

I think you have a point -- if someone is determined to break the law, they will, period. At the same time, I think that in this particular case, different laws would have made a difference.

South of Seattle

curmudgeoness wrote:

klusterfuk wrote:

gun control hurts the law abiding owners. bad guys don't give a shit. they will always get their guns. I'm all for background checks and a waiting period but that won't fix the problem.

I think you have a point -- if someone is determined to break the law, they will, period. At the same time, I think that in this particular case, different laws would have made a difference.

Exactly. Criminals will be criminals. The mentally ill however, might not pursue the theft of a gun if they are unable to buy one at the store. If a background check saves 1 life it's worth it.

dasvidana

I love how the article says he tried to infringe on the 2nd amendment. That is not what he said. All he said was that he wanted to promote dialogue and better understanding so that things like Newtown wouldn't happen again. Then the gun nuts construe that as taking their guns. They are full of shit.

klusterfuk

South of Seattle wrote:

curmudgeoness wrote:

klusterfuk wrote:

gun control hurts the law abiding owners. bad guys don't give a shit. they will always get their guns. I'm all for background checks and a waiting period but that won't fix the problem.

I think you have a point -- if someone is determined to break the law, they will, period. At the same time, I think that in this particular case, different laws would have made a difference.

Exactly. Criminals will be criminals. The mentally ill however, might not pursue the theft of a gun if they are unable to buy one at the store. If a background check saves 1 life it's worth it.

totally agree

curmudgeoness

I don't know. My husband and I both grew up in gun-friendly cultures and we both know many people who are examples of responsible gun ownership.

What happened in Newtown -- I still tear up when I think about it. At the Hartford marathon a few weeks ago there were a bunch of women running in memory of the victims; they each had one of the children's names and pictures on the back of their shirt. There I was at the starting line with a lump in my throat....

On the drive to Hartford last Friday, we were behind a car bearing a bumper sticker that read "Why is it that when someone goes on a shooting spree, the people who didn't do the killing are punished?" This was just past the Newtown exit. :fp: To me, this is symptomatic of a lot of things, most immediately, perhaps, a lack of sensitivity.

Regardless of how I feel about it, Ed did not "stop" the concert; he spoke from the heart, as he and other band members have done in the past. I thought I heard a few people booing -- I don't know, didn't everyone expect Ed would say something about what happened?

PureandEasy

I could say I'm conflicted about taking away the rights of lawful "responsible" gun owners.

Until one of the best people that ever walked on this Earth died as the result of a loaded gun being left where it had no business being.

It was in a kitchen drawer, she reached for a kitchen towel, the gun went off and wreaked havoc on her intestines, her liver, her insides.

She used to tell me how much hated guns, but she loved her husband and I know he loved her.

In my opinion, if you're that into guns, having to store them at a gun range isn't too much to ask.

Nor is accepting background checks or waiting periods TOO much to ask to keep the guns away from mentally unstable people.

mary justice

Well stated pure and easy.....agree...

AzWicker

"Ahhhh, but I am mad now!" - Homer Simpson after being told he has to wait 5 days to purchase a handgun.

soxjam

Yea all of these common sense gun laws will do nothing to stop crazy people,so lets just do nothing and go back to sitting on our hands.

tcadd94

Ed pissed on himself intellectually? No, I'm pretty sure those guys did.

CAVSTARR313

PureandEasy wrote:

I could say I'm conflicted about taking away the rights of lawful "responsible" gun owners.

Until one of the best people that ever walked on this Earth died as the result of a loaded gun being left where it had no business being.

It was in a kitchen drawer, she reached for a kitchen towel, the gun went off and wreaked havoc on her intestines, her liver, her insides.

She used to tell me how much hated guns, but she loved her husband and I know he loved her.

In my opinion, if you're that into guns, having to store them at a gun range isn't too much to ask.

Nor is accepting background checks or waiting periods TOO much to ask to keep the guns away from mentally unstable people.

I was questioning if I should even comment.. This is a horrible thing and you have my deepest sympathy.. Truly a horrible story..
but i got to say it..
Loaded gun in a kitchen drawer? not a responsible gun owner.. not even close..

PureandEasy

Caveeze wrote:

PureandEasy wrote:

I could say I'm conflicted about taking away the rights of lawful "responsible" gun owners.

Until one of the best people that ever walked on this Earth died as the result of a loaded gun being left where it had no business being.

It was in a kitchen drawer, she reached for a kitchen towel, the gun went off and wreaked havoc on her intestines, her liver, her insides.

She used to tell me how much hated guns, but she loved her husband and I know he loved her.

In my opinion, if you're that into guns, having to store them at a gun range isn't too much to ask.

Nor is accepting background checks or waiting periods TOO much to ask to keep the guns away from mentally unstable people.

I was questioning if I should even comment.. This is a horrible thing and you have my deepest sympathy.. Truly a horrible story..
but i got to say it..
Loaded gun in a kitchen drawer? not a responsible gun owner.. not even close..

I agree, but people who have all these "legal" guns think that makes them responsible. It's their right, they're (the guns) all legal.

Seriously, I liken it to pornography, it's an addiction and the more you have or the more you partake, the more important you become. Pathetic.

She was a wonderful person and I will forever be affected by her senseless passing.

pazman

WOW! That article is infuriating to read. Deep breath.

Glad I am not in the States.
My wife is from Seattle and her family are a mix of pro-gun and anti-gun advocates.
Arguments and debate on this topic gets no where as pro-gunners always fall back on ridiculous notions such as '2nd amendment', 'I need it for protection against intruders, etc.', 'we need to use guns as a means to protect ourselves from guns' Aaaargh! Does my head in trying understand their rationale.
We live in Australia and I just don't understand the need for them in my day. I do wonder how it must be to live in the mentality of constant fear (even if so slight and unconscious) that a gun owner has. Especially those who carry guns on them during the day. Oh yes please be the hero to stop the 7/11 hold up with your own gun and begin a shoot out.
Are they sussing everyone out? Always on the look out for suspicious behaviour?

All I can say is good luck to all anti-gun advocates. It's a great cause! A cause that people from Australia, New Zealand, UK, Europe all hope swings your way.

CAVSTARR313

PureandEasy wrote:

I agree, but people who have all these "legal" guns think that makes them responsible. It's their right, they're (the guns) all legal.

Seriously, I liken it to pornography, it's an addiction and the more you have or the more you partake, the more important you become. Pathetic.

She was a wonderful person and I will forever be affected by her senseless passing.

Maybe for some.. I like guns and pornography.. maybe in that order.. but I dont feel the need to collect either. both are far from an obsession for me.. But, the little guns and pornography I own all have there place in my life. I think normal people see how an effective tool could help an area of their life, and seek out said tool. for its purpose only.

Guns have a very small, but very useful role in my life when I need them..

Same with porn..

"its better to have a gun and not need it , than to need a gun and not have it"

same could be said for porn, a car, an education, a screwdriver, etc.. they are all just tools..

vaggar99

good job Eddie. There are too many ignorant and paranoid people in this country and the world who think they are protecting themselves by owning a handgun(s).
The reality is a person is much more likely to harm himself or a loved one by keeping firearms in the house. Gun laws need to change.
Owning a gun doesn't give you any advantage over your enemies. Using your head and educating oneself gives you a much better chance.

fox_mulderX

Call me pessimistic, but none of this matters. I appreciate the opinions of Eddie Vedder, 10c members, and Pearl Jam fans, whether they're for or against gun control. Realistically, though, our opinions don't matter. The laws will not change and there will be another mass shooting somewhere in the United States in a few months. It's a sad world we live in.